10:05:06 #startmeeting 10:05:06 Meeting started Wed May 18 10:05:06 2011 UTC. The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 10:05:06 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 10:05:11 .fas aks 10:05:12 aks: jakshay 'Akshay Jain' - abaksh1 'Arundhati Bakshi' - abhijit13 'Abhijit Ashok Meenakshi' - vivekl 'Vivek Lakshmanan' - ravitejakshetty 'Raviteja K Shetty' - rameshspeaks 'Ramesh Kumar V' - jrochelly 'Jakson Rochelly Nunes Moura' - fuel (8 more messages) 10:05:15 ,fas suresht 10:05:20 #meetingname Meeting:APAC Ambassadors 2011-05-18 10:05:20 The meeting name has been set to 'meeting:apac_ambassadors_2011-05-18' 10:05:22 .fas suresht 10:05:23 suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 10:05:24 .fas azneita 10:05:26 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 10:05:41 #chair harish azneita suresht 10:05:41 Current chairs: azneita bckurera harish suresht 10:05:51 maybe fasinfo would be better for roll call 10:05:57 fasinfo 10:05:58 .fas Aks 10:06:00 .fas kalpurush 10:06:00 aks: jakshay 'Akshay Jain' - abaksh1 'Arundhati Bakshi' - abhijit13 'Abhijit Ashok Meenakshi' - vivekl 'Vivek Lakshmanan' - ravitejakshetty 'Raviteja K Shetty' - rameshspeaks 'Ramesh Kumar V' - jrochelly 'Jakson Rochelly Nunes Moura' - fuel (8 more messages) 10:06:04 Kalpurush: kalpurush 'Moniruzzaman Monir' 10:06:07 .fas bckurera 10:06:08 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 10:06:25 .fas harish 10:06:26 harish: harishsk 'Harish Kumar S.K' - harishneit 'Harish Tummalacherla' - charish '' - harishom 'harish Mehta' - velagapudiharish 'velagapudi harish' - saphar 'hariharan saptharishi' - harishcyberhunk 'Gunneri Harish' - harishpgc '' (1 more message) 10:06:26 #chair Kalpurush 10:06:26 Current chairs: Kalpurush azneita bckurera harish suresht 10:06:42 #chair FranciscoD 10:06:42 Current chairs: FranciscoD Kalpurush azneita bckurera harish suresht 10:06:49 all set to chair 10:06:53 can we start then 10:06:56 please begin :) 10:06:59 thanks bckurera 10:07:05 .fas izhar 10:07:06 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 10:07:08 lets move 10:07:14 KageSenshi, welcome 10:07:17 #topic News from FAmSCo 10:07:23 \o/ 10:07:27 News from FAmSCo 10:07:43 #chair KageSenshi 10:07:43 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush azneita bckurera harish suresht 10:07:49 are there anyone! 10:07:55 Hope you all aware of Larrys departure 10:08:06 we will really miss him 10:08:09 yes 10:08:13 good guy. 10:08:17 +! 10:08:18 we missed him 10:08:23 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-05-18#Agenda 10:08:23 +1 10:08:27 had the privilege of meeting him at the FUDcon Tempe 10:08:41 but he is around with us as a fedora user 10:08:43 swell of a guy, nice write-ups too 10:08:47 Then we had Board and FSCo elections ahead 10:09:23 Then you all have to sign the new agreement in FAS 10:09:33 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Legal:Fedora_Project_Contributor_Agreement 10:09:35 just reminding all important things 10:09:36 already done 10:09:38 for the info 10:09:39 thanks suresht 10:09:48 Already done 10:10:13 Finally we have a good news - F15 is GOLD and ready t release on 24th May 10:10:24 +1 bckurera 10:10:30 \o/ 10:10:30 yes, dent'ed that this morning. 10:10:36 means i have one more week to send out all me free media dvds :o 10:10:43 #chair arifiaou 10:10:43 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush arifiaou azneita bckurera harish suresht 10:10:55 yes we have one week 10:10:59 thats around 80 media! damn damn damn! 10:11:01 less than one week I should say 10:11:22 Is there anything I missed 10:11:22 that's still a lot FranciscoD 10:11:24 bckurera, pls add chair for aks 10:11:24 FranciscoD, we can do it 10:11:34 he is come fron nepal 10:11:38 arifiauo: yes! we will do it :) 10:11:45 i will be making a F15 live DVD custom-built - to include virt, xournal and some other stuff that I personally want in it. 10:12:05 aha! nice! 10:12:20 .fas aks 10:12:21 aks: jakshay 'Akshay Jain' - abaksh1 'Arundhati Bakshi' - abhijit13 'Abhijit Ashok Meenakshi' - vivekl 'Vivek Lakshmanan' - ravitejakshetty 'Raviteja K Shetty' - rameshspeaks 'Ramesh Kumar V' - jrochelly 'Jakson Rochelly Nunes Moura' - fuel (8 more messages) 10:12:23 I'm already on F15 though :P 10:12:23 Thts good , harish 10:12:30 what will you call the remix harish? 10:12:32 it will be 64-bit though. 10:12:35 #chair ask 10:12:35 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush arifiaou ask azneita bckurera harish suresht 10:12:40 sorry 10:12:43 #undo 10:12:43 Removing item from minutes: 10:12:49 harish, good we all waiting for that 10:12:55 not a remix per se, it is essentially the DVD done into a live DVD. 10:12:55 #chair aks 10:12:55 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush aks arifiaou ask azneita bckurera harish suresht 10:13:13 fasinfo aks 10:13:45 Hello aks good to see you 10:13:49 azneita, . 10:13:50 i'll share the ks file once I am happy with it. 10:13:53 bckurera: :) 10:14:00 .fasinfo aks 10:14:01 Seems my email worked atleast for a one FAm :) 10:14:01 suresht: User: aks, Name: Abhishek Singh, email: aks.abhishek@gmail.com, Creation: 2006-02-13, IRC Nick: aks, Timezone: Asia/Kathmandu, Locale: en, Extension: 5100415, GPG key ID: 5267ED40, Status: active 10:14:05 suresht: Unapproved Groups: gitlekhonee 10:14:06 +1 10:14:09 welcome you aks 10:14:09 suresht: Approved Groups: cla_fpca cla_fedora cla_done ambassadors freemedia 10:14:16 bckurera: indeed 10:14:23 .fas aks 10:14:24 aks: jakshay 'Akshay Jain' - abaksh1 'Arundhati Bakshi' - abhijit13 'Abhijit Ashok Meenakshi' - vivekl 'Vivek Lakshmanan' - ravitejakshetty 'Raviteja K Shetty' - rameshspeaks 'Ramesh Kumar V' - jrochelly 'Jakson Rochelly Nunes Moura' - fuel (8 more messages) 10:14:25 we should get down to the agenda 10:14:32 the rest can go in the open floor :D 10:14:36 aks ok 10:14:42 +1 10:14:51 can we proceed 10:15:03 bckurera: please begin with agenda item #1 10:15:04 seems it is better moving 10:15:06 +1 10:15:10 yes please 10:15:18 we are at the news item 10:15:18 lets move 10:15:22 .fasinfo harishpillay (for the record) 10:15:23 harish: User "harishpillay (for the record)" doesn't exist 10:15:24 now we can go for the palnning 10:15:27 .fasinfo harishpillay 10:15:28 harish: User: harishpillay, Name: Harish Pillay, email: harish.pillay@gmail.com, Creation: 2008-02-20, IRC Nick: harish, Timezone: Asia/Singapore, Locale: en, Extension: 5103197, GPG key ID: 746809E3, Status: active 10:15:32 harish: Approved Groups: gitcommarch-web ambassadors cla_done cla_redhat 10:15:56 #topic APAC FAD and FUDcon planning 10:15:58 go ahead. apologies for the interruption 10:16:05 harish, gitcommarch-web ohh well! 10:16:07 Here harish floor over to you 10:16:13 ok thank bckurera 10:16:15 git really i like it 10:16:24 we all love git :) 10:16:30 FUDcon - we need to submit the bid for it. 10:16:35 So FAD and FUDcon planing 10:16:52 #topic FAD and FUDCon planning 10:17:20 there should be an announcement that goes out for the FUDcon bid 10:17:22 we are in that topic 10:17:31 harish, isn't there supposed to be a call first? 10:17:40 so KageSenshi if you want to bid for FUDcon Malaysia put the bid out. 10:17:49 +1 10:17:51 I already had a call 10:17:53 folks are already bidding in different regions 10:17:57 but no ideas came up :( 10:17:58 harish, any links ? 10:17:59 erk 10:18:11 I hear milano one 10:18:12 let me see 10:18:18 KageSenshi: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_organization_process 10:18:28 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon 10:18:37 if i remember correctly the last call was for fudcon emea 10:18:38 the organization process link is important 10:18:57 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_bid_process 10:19:23 none for apac yet, right? 10:19:30 not yet 10:19:34 yes 10:19:35 okay, bidding would be step 1 10:19:36 if we call bid now the we can have in next year is it? 10:19:36 Malaysian one is also waiting 10:19:38 harish, bid submit to fudcon-planning ? 10:19:51 #info Step1: bidding for FUDcon 10:20:00 suresht: see the links, they have a timeline cut out 10:20:05 (iirc) 10:20:20 suresht: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_organization_process#FUDcon_Team_General_Planning_Schedule 10:20:47 FranciscoD, nice resource 10:21:02 +1 10:21:08 let me ask Robyn. She prompted me on this. 10:21:11 so it is a 12 month procedure :P 10:21:19 so for apac, we're creating the bid before the RFP 10:21:25 but that notwithstanding, let's go ahead and plan anwway. 10:21:32 s/anwway/anyway/ 10:21:35 cool :) 10:21:42 harish, "there should be an announcement that goes out for the FUDcon bid" .. /me goes look around all the MLs 10:21:52 KageSenshi, thanks. 10:22:08 harish, i didnt see one on fudcon-planning though 10:22:11 let's just prod jsmith, he may issue one for us :) 10:22:11 let's see if we can come up with a series of FADs and FUDcons 10:22:35 a series of FADs + *one* fudcon for APAC, you mean? 10:22:47 again, going back to what I suggested two weeks ago, the more FADs we run, the better we are prepared to run a FUDcon 10:22:50 atleast one FUDcon in 2012 10:22:56 +1 10:22:56 1 10:22:59 +1 10:23:06 +1 10:23:09 ideally 1 FUDcon for 2012 10:23:24 but nothing stopping us from planning for 2013 10:23:42 we have an suggession in Malaysia for 2012 10:23:46 +1 10:23:51 theres plenty of time. We can easily have one FUDCon in 12, and then another in 13 10:23:53 forward planning is good for it offers us time to plan and change course if needed. 10:24:11 bckurera, ok. KageSenshi any comments. 10:24:37 we need to start planing before 12 months 10:24:41 KageSenshi, you might want to consider a FAD at MOSC in Penang 10:24:44 as the process demand it too 10:24:54 lets break it down 10:24:59 Therefore we can have a FUDcon end of next year 10:25:07 lets first talk FADs, since they have less requirements 10:25:15 then, we can move on to a FUDCon 10:25:16 harish, i am thinking something around after eidulfitri 10:25:18 Bckurera, its good 10:25:19 we talked about FAD last time 10:25:22 for FAD 10:25:28 harish, we are planning to do our FAD_lk in between june-july 10:25:37 ok lets focus FAD 10:25:42 KageSenshi, when will that be? 10:25:44 bckurera: can you sort of revise what we decided last time please? 10:25:51 about the FADs? 10:25:54 harish, sept/october 10:25:55 suresht, ok. proposal? 10:25:58 The first FAD in SL 10:26:20 bckurera, good. proposal please. 10:26:21 has a wiki page been setup? 10:26:26 harish, i already secured a venue for FAD 10:26:27 An event page" 10:26:29 " 10:26:29 ? 10:26:34 KageSenshi, where at? 10:26:43 harish, where else, APIIT/UCTI :) 10:26:50 thats the easiest place to get .. 10:26:55 :-). common workhorse! 10:26:57 harish, i have finished almost 90% proposal and look forwarding to submit to our local software companies 10:27:13 with plenty of breakaway rooms 10:27:20 suresht, it is on a wiki somewhere? 10:27:25 suresht: set up a wiki page please, it's step one 10:27:34 and dump all info there, even the proposals 10:27:39 KageSenshi, yes, APIIT is a good place. only challenge is to get out of that place. 10:27:40 then everything fine here 10:27:42 wait 10:28:05 remember, we should be living the TOSW principles. release early, release often. 10:28:09 we had a wiki 10:28:14 harish, /me nods 10:28:14 wait i ll find the URL 10:28:33 harish, it is prework tasks https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_lk_prework#Day_April_15_-_May_15_2011 10:28:38 harish, for FUDCon i'm eyeing towards JB though 10:28:51 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 10:29:12 KageSenshi, works for me :-) 10:29:12 this is orignal one then we have add here 10:29:17 but we are still planing, we dragged this till F15 release 10:29:25 yes suresht 10:29:43 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Sankarshan/Questions 10:29:55 it's India specific, but still worth a read 10:30:01 harish, gurdip have contacts in jb which might help in securing venue :) 10:30:16 suresht is location fixed? 10:30:27 harish, i am planning to produce fedora pens/balloons/strikers/fedora note books 10:30:54 Suresht, it's great :( 10:31:09 :) 10:31:12 suresht, ok. balloons :-)? 10:31:18 local price for one pen 0.25 $ and one notebook 0.25 $, 10:31:32 fedora balloons 0.1 $ 10:31:53 Everything in touch of fedora :) 10:32:07 suresht: please keep the wiki page updated with these details :) 10:32:19 for participants, the wiki page is the one time stop 10:32:28 +1 10:32:29 once i create proposal pdf i will forward it to all 10:32:36 erm .. couldnt find the bid announcement .. is it really already open ? 10:32:39 still we are planing so nothing fixed yet 10:32:41 everything they need about the event is should be on the wiki 10:32:42 Suresht, add fedora t-shirt 10:32:51 KageSenshi, ping jsmith please. 10:32:53 FranciscoD, still we are in way 10:32:58 harish, ok 10:33:07 suresht: nevermind, still keep the wiki page up :) 10:33:14 so after speak to harish and you all i am planning to add to wiki 10:33:22 suresht, ok 10:33:23 +1 10:33:26 suresht: if you wait till everythings ready, you'll miss a lot of participants 10:33:46 let people know whats going on, it'll keep them interested 10:34:00 FranciscoD, really you are correct 10:34:02 the key thing here is to show that there is planning underway with some degree of certainty of the events actually happening - like location, signups etc. 10:34:10 harish: +1 10:34:15 it shows commitment and drive and helps me to get funds etc. 10:34:22 +1 10:34:25 we have planned to do ths april but still we are on air 10:34:28 harish: you put my thoughts into words :D 10:34:50 +1 , harish 10:34:51 one of the things I'd like to see happen is a net increase of activities for APAC this year. it shows a growth of interest and participation 10:35:05 so, all activities 10:35:17 yes we keep increasing the volume 10:35:18 harish: how about we discuss that in the open floor? I have some suggestions too 10:35:20 harish, so i hope i can get fund as much i can from local software companies but we need some money before kick off 10:35:27 Yes we hv to running 10:35:29 whether it is in a school or a LUG or a JUG or whatever it should all be in the wiki so taht we can capture and measure it. 10:35:41 FranciscoD, OK 10:35:52 keep on topic. 10:35:59 we are 30 minutes here 10:36:04 :) 10:36:06 so we've two FADs line up 10:36:14 at present 10:36:14 ok 10:36:15 where is the other? 10:36:20 cool 10:36:22 Sri Lanka and next? 10:36:30 KageSenshi has one , right? 10:36:32 we ll be having the SL FAD on July end 10:36:33 mether, are you able to answer this? 10:36:35 for sure 10:36:42 harish, because i have spoken to someones they said after finish event only the sponsors give money to us 10:37:02 suresht: yes, you get reimbursed when you send in the reciepts 10:37:08 suresht you will not get money till you produce bills 10:37:08 *receipts 10:37:13 FranciscoD, to do :) .. possibly on mid september .. i will be meeting the local guys next weekend 10:37:19 to discuss more with them 10:37:20 suresht, reimbursement is after the fact as far as possible. 10:37:22 suresht: which is why, everything needs to be documented on the wiki :) 10:37:31 then i'll put up a wiki 10:37:32 KageSenshi: aha, great :) 10:37:52 gear thoughts 10:37:57 ok i will do in wiki and pdf proposal as well 10:38:00 FranciscoD, venue already secured , but not manpower yet :) 10:38:01 #info All reimbursements are after the event 10:38:03 i think we need to keep repeating that unless it is on the wiki, it is not happening. 10:38:07 :-) 10:38:38 #info all FADs need to be placed on the wiki: irrespective of their status 10:38:58 ok~ 10:39:19 harish, network is being troublesome here. I potentially missed the context but if the question is about FUDCon, I am planning for one in India 10:39:21 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD 10:39:32 mether: you are?? 10:39:44 * FranciscoD dances :D 10:39:53 wow great to hear mether 10:40:00 \o/ 10:40:04 FranciscoD, yep. I will post the details soon 10:40:09 hoho 10:40:11 mether: great :) 10:40:13 :D 10:40:14 mether: alright! Great! 10:40:15 mether, about India running a FAD or two and a FUDcon in 2011. 10:40:26 Mether, great:D 10:40:36 FUDcon in 2011?? 10:40:39 additional info on FADs : http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD#What_is_a_FAD_like.3F 10:41:37 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD 10:41:52 bckurera, If I understand the process correctly, then it would one for 2012 instead. fads can be organized in a much shorter time 10:42:21 great So i m waiting 10:42:30 is there any FAD organizing in India?? 10:42:34 in 2011?? 10:42:56 we organized one last year around this time. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Pune_2010 10:43:04 could so something similar this year as well 10:43:08 bckurera: not yet 10:43:17 yup I already refer that mether 10:43:30 but we could, maybe around July-August 10:43:40 yeah 10:43:45 nice to hear that and love to visit too 10:43:48 takes about a couple of months to do it well 10:44:03 bckurera, alright. lets discuss that after the meeting 10:44:05 ping gbraad 10:44:14 Hi, Gbraad 10:44:28 great KIT mether, bckurera@gmail.com we can have a GTalk :) 10:44:47 mether, :) 10:44:57 45 minutes passed on the meeting 10:45:21 Mether keep it on irc, so we also can join 10:45:32 Kalpurush, sure 10:45:35 yup sound great 10:45:40 will do so 10:45:46 okay, are we done with FADs? 10:45:53 move on to the next topic? 10:45:56 yes 10:46:02 lets move t FUDcons 10:46:04 if we are going to FAD we have to work hard me & bckurera know the pain 10:46:17 +1 10:46:32 +1 10:46:42 +1 10:46:48 +1 10:46:52 hope we have to do our best here 10:47:05 +1 10:47:07 moving on 10:47:16 suresht, once you do it a couple of times, it isn't as hard :-) 10:47:45 mether, yes this our first time that's why 10:47:51 I m happy as there is a nice fedorians with them it ll be easy 10:47:55 is there a wiki page for the intended FUDCon yet? 10:48:02 wait 10:48:13 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FUDConAPACDraft 10:48:21 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FUDConAPACDraft 10:48:24 aersk 10:48:29 *awesome 10:49:08 bckurera, lets move to next topic 10:49:26 ok 10:49:32 today meeting is mainly for FAD and FUDcon 10:49:46 so as harish is here we should have lot of sharings 10:49:46 KageSenshi: could you update the page with "event owner" please? 10:49:53 ok 10:50:01 then sahll we talk about media f15 10:50:08 KageSenshi: that way, people will know who to contact 10:50:13 bckurera, i am happy to share :-) 10:50:14 roger 10:50:16 i mean we have to get on time 10:50:18 +1 suresht 10:50:31 can we move?? 10:50:34 yes 10:50:38 bckurera: yes 10:50:49 KageSenshi: we also need to pin point the time for the fudcon 10:51:06 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 10:51:10 folks will have to clear their schedules etc 10:51:21 FranciscoD, got it 10:51:30 the venue seems taken care of 10:51:36 harish, how about manila visit? did you meet ambassadors? 10:51:40 what other variable is still mising? 10:51:54 suresht: lets stay on topic, we can use the open floor for other discussions? 10:51:55 * suresht i like cloud computing 10:52:06 FranciscoD, so sorry 10:52:07 suresht, schedule conflicts 10:52:11 suresht, not this trip, but th eprevious one. 10:52:12 better align to the topic 10:52:28 Topic pls 10:52:28 suresht: nothing to be sorr about :) 10:52:34 err/visit/IBM talk 10:52:43 asmartgoat ping 10:52:49 can everyone please look at the link KageSenshi put up 10:52:55 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F15_Quezon_City 10:53:04 just finished writing a draft 10:53:07 and think of what else needs to be fixed up/planned? 10:53:25 we'll update it as we go along 10:53:33 KageSenshi: harish: would it help to give the FUDCon a theme? 10:53:37 1) confirm venue 10:53:44 Kagesenshi, seems we can go for a bid? 10:53:48 FranciscoD: +1 10:53:58 FranciscoD, good question. why not? 10:54:13 bckurera: for the bid, you need to have a good idea of the required budget etc 10:54:15 each geo would have some area of interest and that could be the focus and theme. not that 10:54:20 it will preclude other topics. 10:54:46 We can start hinking of a theme :D 10:55:08 harish: i meant, like the GNOME Asia summit had a theme: it was to do with releasing gnome3 10:55:31 similiarly, a common theme helps get more work done, even in a barcamp style conference 10:55:37 FranciscoD, sure. if it helps to promote and focus the event, why not? 10:55:52 yes and we can use it for marketing as well 10:56:03 #task KageSenshi theme for fudcon 10:56:16 let us make it action 10:56:21 +1 10:56:23 I've just assigned it to KageSenshi since he's the event owner. Everyone needs to think about this 10:56:37 +1 10:56:46 #action Kagesenshi Theme for FUDcon 10:56:57 so, we'll discuss the ideas for the theme in the next meeting 10:56:58 :D 10:57:06 folks, please give it some thought 10:57:24 #info FUDcon theme discussion in the next meeting 10:57:36 #action bckurera add "Discuss theme for FUDCon" to next meeting agenda 10:57:37 ;) 10:57:43 +1 10:57:45 with themes, being bold is good. 10:57:54 FranciscoD +1 10:58:08 we can think of themes 10:58:14 Bckurera, wht abt the APAC megazine naming 10:58:15 KageSenshi: will you have something new on the FUDCon by the next meeting? 10:58:19 and place them on the wwiki 10:58:29 FranciscoD, that will be wednesday next week right? 10:58:30 event page then we can select one as we all like 10:58:35 KageSenshi: probably 10:58:45 FranciscoD, i'm meeting up with the guys on 29th, so probably not much input on next wednesday 10:58:46 Will go with topics :) 10:59:02 shall we go for APAC planing? 10:59:06 KageSenshi: so, how about we skip discussing the FUDCon next meeting? 10:59:21 it'll give you more time to work on, and we can have a much more constructive meeting? 10:59:21 +1 10:59:21 sounds ok to me 10:59:30 harish: what say you? 10:59:35 we are here for 60 minutes 10:59:51 we can act on what we gathered today 10:59:54 FranciscoD, ok 11:00:07 and then lets see what else we need to do on the next meeting 11:00:14 ok 11:00:21 lets move then 11:00:25 kaio ping 11:00:26 .fas kaio 11:00:27 kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance (かいお)' 11:00:30 bckurera: since you're already editing the agenda, can you add "do not discuss the FUDCon this meeting" to it please? 11:00:31 ih 11:00:38 kaio, hi 11:00:41 suresht, hi 11:00:46 Kaio, hi 11:00:47 bckurera: next meetings agenda I meant 11:00:52 I ll FranciscoD 11:00:55 kaio: hello ! 11:01:00 will inform to dramsey as well 11:01:07 hello kaio 11:01:10 kaio we are in "Report current Status of upcoming events" 11:01:11 #chair kaio 11:01:11 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi Kalpurush aks arifiaou ask azneita bckurera harish kaio suresht 11:01:21 suresht, thx 11:01:21 #topic "news from FAMSCO" 11:01:25 anything here? 11:01:33 ha... 11:01:33 * FranciscoD looks around 11:01:45 kaio place 11:01:52 if nothing, we can move to the next agenda :) 11:01:59 we went back as kaio is here 11:02:02 breaking ice into china community now 11:02:20 its great to hear kaio 11:02:30 :) 11:02:31 Fedora 15 release will be the first step 11:02:38 i have seen tatica also helping to Howeva 11:02:58 #topic APAC plans 11:03:02 fits in better 11:03:04 :P 11:03:10 lets move 11:03:13 please proceed :) 11:03:23 #topic Fedora 15 Release Events 11:03:33 That is the place 11:03:41 what about release parties 11:03:44 people planning release events please raise their hands :) 11:03:46 ! 11:03:49 for Taiwan we have ambassadors linked with Fedora.tw forum and working on some exposure for the annual largest OSS event in Taiwan COSCUP in August. 11:03:50 F15 will be out with in 7 days 11:03:53 24th 11:04:03 +1 11:04:28 kaio +1 11:04:40 FranciscoD, i just slipped our party earlier :) 11:04:44 we have one TW FAm as I could remember 11:04:45 FranciscoD, +1 11:04:52 cool kaio 11:04:56 KageSenshi: is there a wiki page for COSCUP yet? 11:05:03 to track the process? 11:05:04 I want to ship the remaining Fedora 14 media to China and SL as there are still demand for that classic version 11:05:09 coscup ? 11:05:16 kaio, +1 11:05:24 harish, is here kaio 11:05:24 FranciscoD probably meant kaio 11:05:26 but I need reimbursement for previous expenses from harish 11:05:42 KageSenshi: sorry, i meant kaio 11:05:42 #info for Taiwan we have ambassadors linked with Fedora.tw forum and working on some exposure for the annual largest OSS event in Taiwan COSCUP in August. 11:05:44 KageSenshi, yes coscup 11:05:50 kaio, yes, like i mentioned, the reimbursements will be done by this Friday. 11:05:50 kaio: is there a wiki page for COSCUP yet? 11:06:11 kaio, before send them please find UPS shipping company not even DHL or FEDEX 11:06:18 harish, thx, because that fund is needed to get media shipped 11:06:20 kaio: i'm going to request folks to join the free media effort in the open floor 11:06:36 its good 11:06:36 you could send the left over media to free media volunteers? 11:06:41 I intend to organize a Fedora 15 release event in Pune. We just need to get some goodies in place first 11:06:50 suresht, which courier you you want me to send via? 11:06:55 * FranciscoD intends to have one in Bangalore 11:07:01 +1 need goodies 11:07:12 kaio, do you have UPS in aus? 11:07:23 shall we move 11:07:26 to the next topic 11:07:32 #topic Media, Swag and other needs. 11:07:33 because we can pay less charge tax 11:07:34 suresht, I think so 11:07:44 kaio should have 11:07:54 we need goddies for release parties 11:08:00 FranciscoD, lets coordinate then, after the meeting 11:08:01 +1 11:08:03 how about the status of them? 11:08:09 is there a central point of contact for media/swag/other needs for the APAC? 11:08:12 mether what you need? 11:08:13 mether: yeah, sure 11:08:27 iirc, EMEA has a central point of contact 11:08:34 bckurera, fedora 15 media. I think we have the rest in place already 11:08:41 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC 11:08:45 but again, EMEA isn't as large/spread out as APAC 11:09:02 +1 11:09:18 FranciscoD, I think its useful to be more spread out. otherwise courier charges are going to be not economical 11:09:20 if not please write down the box "free of charge to distributed to university students a like this" a like NGO 11:09:27 Francisco we are working for that 11:09:41 sooner we have a central point till then will manage this wiki 11:09:43 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC 11:09:46 kaio, when i get it i can argue with them 11:10:11 +1 , suresht 11:10:12 hello all 11:10:14 suresht, mether: the delivery order (DO) should include that it's a free of cost material, else passing through the custom taxes can be a problem 11:10:15 suresht - dont try to get them free tax 11:10:19 it wont happen 11:10:20 FranciscoD, we're using this one https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-apac/ but i think india also has their own 11:10:34 azneita: yeah, we do 11:10:44 azneita: who *services* the ticketS? 11:10:47 if I send in many small packs I will broke 11:10:51 harish :) 11:10:56 akiase, yes. we do that even within India. 11:11:06 yes, it's me. 11:11:20 FranciscoD, for fedora-india, that would be me 11:11:25 bckurera, when the UPS free of charge 11:11:38 aks thanks 11:11:45 just fyi, our tracker is at https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-india/ 11:11:49 harish sending media over the post is not a good idea 11:11:49 we cannot pay the tax 11:11:49 that is why we suggest for locally produced media 11:11:49 kaio and harish what you think? 11:12:16 bckurera, ++ 11:12:16 +1 bckurera 11:12:20 local media is a good idea. i can ship media from Singapore but need to ensure that it can be delivered to the various cities 11:12:23 bckurera: +1 for local media production 11:12:27 without additional charges. 11:12:27 Local media production will save many bucks 11:12:29 if SE asia can produce themselves that will be good 11:12:30 locally produce, get the reimbursements 11:12:32 hows that? 11:12:35 hello maktrix 11:12:51 FranciscoD: that would be a good way to go 11:12:57 FranciscoD, yes, reimburse. 11:13:02 I mean, instead of international couriers 11:13:09 can we add it as an idea action?? 11:13:09 within a country, we can send stuff around 11:13:10 I've had produced Media locally and reimbursed later 11:13:11 FranciscoD, +1 11:13:25 but we have to make sure the quality 11:13:32 and the cover desigh 11:13:35 we have 75 minutes in the meeting 11:13:45 suresht: produde how much you need. The design team makes the dvd covers 11:13:53 s/produde/produce/ 11:13:55 except australia - produce locally is more expensive than import 11:14:08 suresht: I did these locally http://maktrix.files.wordpress.com/2010/12/fedora14media.jpg 11:14:08 FranciscoD, I think he is talking about the local producers not mucking it up which does happen 11:14:28 here we can take printout for cd/dvd cover 0.35 $ 11:14:33 kaio what you meant? 11:14:40 mether: in mass pressing also? 11:14:53 last week i asked for shops who have doing this 11:14:55 they waste media, or they make changes to the covers etc too? 11:15:03 FranciscoD, yep. they get the colors wrong for instance. 11:15:04 kaio, i can ship it from singapore 11:15:08 yikes 11:15:14 Australia needs media from SE asian countries 11:15:23 harish shipping will cost taxes 11:15:29 we have already cover design in wiki 11:15:33 harish, ok yes pls for f15 11:15:44 love to hear about the design team 11:15:49 I m working with it now :D 11:15:57 cool bckurera 11:16:03 :D 11:16:05 harish, i'll send the details through email. got a new shipping address 11:16:06 kaio, yes, for AU I will ship it. for others, they have to tell me if there are local taxes which would not make it worthwhile. 11:16:06 ok then kaio harish can we settle this media thing soon? 11:16:06 #action kaio harish to work out media for australia 11:16:13 ok 11:16:16 no tax here 11:16:33 we have tax :( 11:16:36 #info no tax for MY 11:16:37 can we move 11:16:40 whats next on the agenda? 11:16:44 tanks maktrix for your design i got to see 11:16:49 bckurera: we have taxes too :( 11:16:50 We hv tax 11:17:06 my cool country KageSenshi 11:17:12 pls put like #info no tax for MY 11:17:15 not like lk 11:17:17 #idea calculate total costs of local production and send harish, so he can decide if sending media is worth it 11:17:18 paying tax and getting them is a waste of fedora funds I see 11:17:27 good idea 11:17:33 #info Tax in BD 11:17:34 ok, i know it is shown on the wiki somewhere, can all of you please update it please and post the link? 11:17:47 #info Tax in Nepal 11:17:55 we should update the APAC production wiki page 11:17:57 + 1 idea calculate total costs of local production and send harish, so he can decide if sending media is worth it 11:17:58 #idea if you want media, file a ticket at the trac instance 11:18:08 rally cool FranciscoD 11:18:11 #Info tax in BD 11:18:18 #idea everything you want *has* to be on the track instace 11:18:24 #info tax VN 11:18:26 #topic Talk about the media distribution 11:18:30 that way its much more organized 11:18:37 err/rally/really 11:18:48 FranciscoD, actually you have to create a wiki then file a ticket :) 11:19:04 azneita: wiki page for event 11:19:07 right? 11:19:14 ok then lets creat bills and post to harish 11:19:19 then he decide what to do 11:19:26 please include the tax rate 11:19:33 PDF and email it. 11:19:34 bckurera, FranciscoD, mether, harish: time for me to move out, will see you at next meeting 11:19:36 in Sri Lanka it is around 13-16% 11:19:47 thank for being there aks 11:19:48 aks: have a good day :) 11:19:51 aks, alright. see ya 11:19:52 will KIT with you 11:20:01 #info tax should be zero if under AUD$1000 11:20:02 bckurera: ok 11:20:09 aks 11:20:11 bckurera: next topic please : RH exams? 11:20:14 ask see u 11:20:26 FranciscoD, most of swag production is tied up with an event 11:20:32 #topic Reimbursements Blank Media as well as Fedora13/14/15 Release Party dinners 11:20:37 so those two ties up neatly 11:20:37 skipp no dramsey 11:20:47 azneita: i had requested mether to give me media for free media too :) 11:20:48 #topic Red Hat Exams for Ambassadors 11:20:56 * harish i've got to step away. please close the meeting without me. 11:21:05 we miss dramsey 11:21:06 thanks harish 11:21:09 gtg .. got a work-related meeting soon 11:21:15 bckurera: next topic please 11:21:18 see you harish 11:21:20 harish, thanks 11:21:30 #topic Ambassador Wear 11:21:36 here it is mine 11:21:44 So now I m processing shipping 11:21:48 :) 11:22:02 ther are some orders after the deadline 11:22:06 cool bckurera 11:22:15 I ll deliver them if there is any remains 11:22:24 anyway I got a order from Russia as well 11:22:26 around 8 11:22:36 ohh is it? 11:22:38 if they send me money we can go for a repint 11:22:50 how many in total now? 11:23:03 I have to save for shipping as well. 11:23:12 it will cost more than I thought 11:23:21 Bckurera how many 11:23:25 because a Tshirt will cost for 300grams 11:23:34 * suresht wait from bckurera 11:23:45 so this is the situation 11:23:54 it is good if I send them all once 11:24:09 I mean all the orders for Malaysia in one box 11:24:15 i thought funds were sent from SG to cover the initial costs 11:24:17 bckurera, understood 11:24:36 That will be good bckurera 11:24:36 yes only the initial cost azneita 11:24:52 first the priority given to APAC FAms 11:24:53 how much is the difference? 11:25:04 still not calculated 11:25:14 as postage will differ from country to country 11:25:51 thats the situation 11:25:52 just an estimate, so we can ask harish or somebody else to cover them 11:26:09 I need around $100 11:26:16 for shipping may be more 11:26:28 the $100 dollars covers what? 11:26:42 shipping azneita 11:26:47 ah 11:27:01 otherwise we can ask FAm to bear that 11:27:01 send it to one contact point per country, and have him/her send it out within the country 11:27:07 either way we can work out 11:27:14 true 11:27:23 you can get funds for sending to each country (again, open a ticket on the trac) 11:27:28 yes one person from one country 11:27:36 is the wiki updated with the orders? 11:27:38 and ambassadors can divide the costs within the country themselves 11:27:44 thats my last wish 11:27:58 will see 11:28:09 bckurera: is the wiki updated? 11:28:11 and what will do for FAm who asked 2 shirts? 11:28:25 not yet as there is no decision taken 11:28:37 will finalize soon 11:28:39 bckurera: he'll pay whatever it costs to get the shirts from $pointofcontact to him? 11:28:52 depends on the number produced 11:28:55 it seems nice, ets do so 11:29:01 just to be clear, ambassadors are paying for their shirts, right? 11:29:13 It's not paid for by comm arch, is it? 11:29:28 yes they paid for the Tshirts 11:29:36 only we have to bear the shipping 11:29:57 you couldve asked them to pay for shipping too :) 11:30:13 will ask them and see :) 11:30:15 Im sure they wouldnt have had a problem paying a few dollars extra :) 11:30:27 to the better ment of FAm 11:30:33 bckurera: please do update the wiki page, and open 11:30:37 relevant tickets 11:30:42 ok lets move then 11:30:43 required tickets rather 11:30:48 bckurera: yes, next please? 11:31:01 #topic Fedora APAC Magazine 11:31:02 +1 11:31:12 there is three names 11:31:21 so we can select one for the magazine 11:31:24 Yes, name voting 11:31:39 Fedora APAC Magazine Tutorial Fedora Voice of APAC 11:31:43 refer the link 11:31:50 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_APAC_Magazine 11:31:52 past wiki url pls 11:32:04 ok got it 11:32:10 Fedora APAC Magazine 11:32:32 Tutorial Fedora 11:32:38 Voice of APAC 11:32:47 shall we go for a voting 11:32:52 or next meeting?? 11:32:54 bckurera: how do you intend to collect votes? 11:32:55 So which one is taken? 11:33:04 range voting? 11:33:05 in IRC 11:33:19 just simple voting :) 11:33:22 bckurera: everyone should be involved IMHO 11:33:25 Or doodle 11:33:27 i donno just thinking 11:33:32 not just folks attending the meetings 11:33:42 is it possible to use the fedora voting infra? 11:33:43 better we move to the ML 11:33:52 bckurera: polling on the ML is not allowed iirc 11:33:53 will have to ask them 11:34:05 bckurera: would you ask them? 11:34:10 This is a simple thing 11:34:15 so can I ask, why it is APAC specific? 11:34:17 anyway will ask them it is good 11:34:28 mether: +1 11:34:31 LATMA have their own 11:34:42 so we think of comming up with our own 11:34:47 we are not limited 11:34:53 but we focus APAC mainly 11:35:01 yes they do but I think they share a common language 11:35:14 spanish most of the time 11:35:15 APAC is anyway going to a English magazine. Isn't that right? 11:35:23 yes we are English 11:35:34 it is the common language 11:35:35 so have a non regional name 11:35:41 +1 bckurera 11:35:46 #action bckurera arrange name selection for the APAC magazine 11:35:48 would be helpful to make it a global effort 11:35:57 yes will cover other as well 11:36:03 but mainly focus on APAC 11:36:14 Mainly focus for APAC 11:36:19 mether, yes you are correct we have to think both side 11:36:19 also if the name includes "Fedora" we will need permission from the fedora board for use of the trademark 11:36:40 also, is it an emagazine? or will we have prints? 11:36:41 yes first we should approve it from the ground level 11:36:45 APAC FAm 11:36:52 e magazine 11:37:03 sure. just keep in consideration that while selecting the name 11:37:10 great 11:37:18 shall we move? 11:37:32 My recommendation if I may is to coordinate with the fedora insight project 11:37:34 We hv do something to ping all ambassador of APAC 11:37:38 bckurera: again, you need to update the wiki page with all this info :) 11:37:42 http://insight.fedoraproject.org 11:37:49 updated 11:38:00 There are lot of ambassador in APAC 11:38:13 Bt how much active? 11:38:16 around 150 11:38:18 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Insight 11:38:30 ok lets move 11:38:32 #topic APAC Committee - Plan 2011/12 11:38:48 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-plan 11:38:58 some FAm joined with the page 11:39:25 This effor will make eaiser to be KEEP IN TOUCH 11:39:31 nothing serous 11:39:49 any comments or move? 11:40:21 can we move? 11:40:25 move please 11:40:35 #topic FUDcon APAC Committee 11:40:35 Bckurera i think we need to ping all a,bassador of APAC 11:40:41 we discussed about this 11:40:54 lets move 11:41:00 #topic Online event for Fedora 15 in China. Need help for Media Distribution and Fedora swag 11:41:03 Wanna se whos are active/response 11:41:16 we miss Haowei.Lee 11:41:22 he is not here 11:41:26 Kalpurush: been done lots of times. It's not worth it 11:41:32 #topic LCA 2012 11:41:40 we miss asmartgoat 11:41:42 Need solution abt this 11:41:55 Kalpurush open floor 11:42:09 Kalpurush: no, just keep working. Active ambassadors will pitch in. Do not waste effort on inactive ones 11:42:11 Yes bckurera 11:42:11 #topic APAC Library 11:42:21 wait till june 17 for the new CLA done 11:42:26 we miss asmartgoat 11:42:33 bckurera: next 11:42:34 if not they will remove anuto 11:42:46 #topic Classrooms for APAC 11:42:47 Think it is good FranciscoD 11:43:01 FranciscoD 11:43:06 from the class rooms point of view, we already have class rooms in place 11:43:08 this is your time 11:43:14 we just need more people finding time to teach etc 11:43:28 everyone remember to sign the fpca 11:43:35 sound like an info? 11:43:39 class rooms for apac means class rooms in our time zones, so more folks can attend 11:43:44 Already done mether 11:43:47 bckurera: its already been discussed earlier 11:43:49 +1 mether 11:43:50 good 11:44:01 its old news, whever one of us finds time, we will go ahead and take a class 11:44:01 then we can move 11:44:13 bckurera: please do remove this from next weeks agenda as well :) 11:44:18 add it as a action 11:44:31 #action bckurera remove APAC classrooms from agenda 11:44:40 #topic Open floor 11:44:41 #topic Open Floor 11:44:49 ! 11:44:50 here we are 11:44:56 now FAm please go on 11:45:02 two hour meetings are tiring 11:45:04 Kalpurush 11:45:08 I'd like to know how many people in here are part of the fedora free media project? 11:45:13 lets finish soon 11:45:18 bckurera, i have taken this already 11:45:19 azneita: yeah, agree 11:45:20 I am 11:45:25 i pitch in from time to time FranciscoD 11:45:30 O 11:45:34 :D 11:45:39 lets end meeting bckurera 11:45:45 please 11:45:50 I'd like each one here to please sign up and send *two* media a month 11:45:56 FranciscoD anything else? 11:45:57 only *two* 11:45:58 and let's prune the agenda a little bit 11:45:59 thats all 11:45:59 gtg my life is still in chaos 11:46:13 that's all, 11:46:14 lol kaio 11:46:23 wish good well soon 11:46:25 Kaio:) 11:46:30 #idea please join fedora free media and send *two* media a month 11:46:32 I have a thing to add 11:46:47 for APAC Fam I mailed to ML for their contribution 11:46:51 azneita, more than when during the period we met in LCA 11:46:52 but here are no replys 11:47:00 then I send them indivigual Emals 11:47:10 ppl I didnt see on meetings 11:47:12 +1 bckurera 11:47:20 bckurera: keep the wiki up to date 11:47:25 I am not saying they are inactive but it is good if we can get their dieas as wll 11:47:25 +1 for free media 11:47:37 keep mailing the list about the progress of the event/its planning 11:47:41 As a result I am able to get ask 11:47:42 +1 bckurera 11:47:44 and more people will pitch in 11:47:45 from nepal 11:48:02 so if we make some effort we can get it done 11:48:09 you need to show them that the event is well planned etc, that gets people interested 11:48:32 ok then with all info can we end this meeting 11:48:46 thanks for being in the meeting 11:48:47 +1 11:48:51 it is 2 hours now 11:49:02 dramsey will plan the next meeting soon 11:49:06 Bckurera we will meet in fb:( 11:49:10 #action FranciscoD prune meeting agenda 11:49:11 we missed dramsey anyway 11:49:22 sure FB is a lovely place to be KIT with all 11:49:35 shall we clean up then 11:49:42 thanks you all,specially mether 11:49:45 10 11:49:47 see you 11:49:48 9 11:49:48 8 11:49:50 7 11:49:52 6 11:49:53 5 11:49:55 4 11:49:57 3 11:49:59 3 11:50:11 Thanks for your participation 11:50:13 2 11:50:13 1 11:50:15 0.5 11:50:19 #endmeeting