05:10:12 <tagoh> #startmeeting i18n
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05:10:16 <tagoh> #meetingname i18n
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05:10:36 <tagoh> #topic agenda and roll call
05:10:49 <tagoh> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2011-05-12
05:11:11 <juhp> hi
05:11:12 <tagoh> who else here today?
05:11:29 <dueno> hi
05:11:35 <epico_laptop> hi
05:13:04 <fujiwarat> hi
05:14:15 <tagoh> ok, let's get started then
05:14:33 <tagoh> #topic F15
05:16:21 <tagoh> waiting for the release and we have a few days for 0-day updates now.
05:16:53 <juhp> ah yeah I see rc1 is out
05:19:34 <tagoh> guess not too much things to discuss here. please keep up to make f15 better with 0-day updates if you are looking at any bugs.
05:19:51 <tagoh> #topic Bugzilla house keeping
05:21:18 <tagoh> it may be good to start having a look at bugzilla for coming eol of f13 and bugs possibly fixed in the latest
05:22:21 <tagoh> 34 bugs still open for f13 now
05:22:41 <juhp> agreed
05:24:20 <pravins> hi
05:24:26 <tagoh> any volunteers for retesting would be appreciated
05:25:19 <tagoh> let's try to have some times in this week to go around bugzilla and update bugs with result of your tests
05:25:32 <pravins> tagoh: i will look at bugs assigned to me, i guess there are some
05:25:51 <tagoh> pravins: good
05:27:01 <tagoh> #topic Package Updates
05:27:05 * juhp is looking at the gdm lang selection bugs
05:27:24 <tagoh> juhp: thanks.
05:27:30 <nkumar> hi
05:27:32 <juhp> pravins: yeah was still wondering about punjabi font
05:27:53 <pravins> juhp: which bugs?
05:28:05 <juhp> f15...
05:28:18 <tagoh> we could have some updates in next meeting if you want to discuss any.
05:28:27 <juhp> .bug 683122
05:28:29 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 683122 [pa_IN] Default font is not lohit punjabi - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683122
05:28:31 <pravins> yeah got it
05:29:13 <pravins> juhp: what you said should i change priority to 65-0?
05:29:30 <pravins> tagoh: it is recommended?
05:29:48 <juhp> (sounds reasonable to me)
05:30:02 <juhp> but I haven't looked at it carefully at all
05:30:17 <juhp> pravins: what changed?
05:30:33 <pravins> hmm, there is basic problem people write punjabi language using Arabic and punjabi script
05:31:34 <tagoh> hm, that was a technique to avoid the priority thing with 65-nonlatin.conf though, is it related to that too?
05:32:00 <pravins> i think DroidSansArabic.ttf has higher precedence in fontconfig
05:32:53 <tagoh> then may be good to adjust the priority in DroidSansArabic.ttf perhaps.
05:34:08 <pravins> but main confusion is Driod is arabic script font
05:34:19 <pravins> and lohit punjabi is punjabi script
05:34:24 <pravins> how can fontconifg making mistake
05:35:33 <tagoh> sure. that could be fixed with the feature in next fontconfig release I believe..
05:36:16 <tagoh> you will be able to get rid of punjabi support from Droid with it..
05:36:20 <pravins> tagoh:  i will look into it
05:36:26 <pravins> i think need some more debug :)
05:37:28 <tagoh> back to the topic: is there any updated packages for testing?
05:38:33 <nkumar> tagoh: ibus-indic-table-1.3.1-3.fc15
05:39:40 <juhp> hmm OT but wondering if system-config-language should be made installed by default in f15
05:40:34 <juhp> perhaps too late to propose as a blocker?
05:40:36 <tagoh> juhp: hm, suppose that topic was discussed at the list or bugzilla?
05:42:42 <juhp> aha
05:42:42 <nkumar> juhp: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=691184
05:43:03 <juhp> nkumar: yeah I just commented
05:43:21 <nkumar> juhp: ok :)
05:43:24 <juhp> tagoh: so what was the conclusion?
05:44:28 <juhp> hm I guess it is just a comps change...
05:44:38 <tagoh> can't remember clearly..
05:46:12 <juhp> then again gdm locale itself is not really a regression - but doesn't really hurt to have a way to change the system locale
05:46:29 <juhp> hm
05:47:01 <tagoh> dunno how it affects to other desktops/spins
05:48:04 <tagoh> need to log into the desktop once to update/change locale for them anyway?
05:50:17 <tagoh> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/ibus-indic-table-1.3.1-3.fc15
05:50:54 <tagoh> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/uim-1.7.0-0.1.20110511svn.fc15
05:51:08 <tagoh> finally pushed for broken deps..
05:51:16 <tagoh> anything else?
05:51:20 <juhp> tagoh: with gdm, I guess so
05:51:32 <tagoh> juhp: aha
05:52:29 <tagoh> ok, let's move on.
05:52:36 <tagoh> #topic Input Methods
05:52:49 <juhp> probably have to run control-center - which also assumes gnome3 and can't be closed ;)
05:53:30 <tagoh> 38 bugs open for IM now
05:54:09 <tagoh> any updates/concerns for IM so far?
05:55:19 <pravins> tagoh: tamil in in planed
05:55:22 <pravins> planned
05:55:38 <tagoh> ITB?
05:55:40 <pravins> initially i thought it will get complete quickly but .. :)
05:56:01 <pravins> yeah, hoping to finish by start of next week
05:56:09 <tagoh> cool
05:56:34 <fujiwarat> I don't special updates since return from PTO. Before PTO, I fixed an ibus zombie bug and enhanced ibus-setup to show the current languages only.
05:56:58 <tagoh> aha
05:59:18 <tagoh> shall we move on if nothing else
05:59:32 <tagoh> #topic Fonts and Rendering
05:59:56 <tagoh> 36+33 bugs open now
06:02:37 <tagoh> anything?
06:06:30 <tagoh> ok.. may be better stop here today
06:07:10 <tagoh> thanks everyone for the meeting. looking forward to see some updates on bugs cleanup in the next meeting...
06:07:45 <tagoh> #endmeeting