04:18:22 #startmeeting APAC meeting 2011-05-07 04:18:22 Meeting started Sat May 7 04:18:22 2011 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:18:22 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:18:23 dramsey, go on 04:18:27 #meetingname APAC 04:18:27 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:18:33 .fas dramsey 04:18:33 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:18:39 .fas izhar 04:18:40 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:18:44 .fas zerng07 04:18:45 #chair azneita KageSenshi suresht 04:18:45 Current chairs: KageSenshi azneita dramsey suresht 04:18:45 zerng07: zerng07 'Cheng-Chia Tseng' 04:18:46 .fas suresht 04:18:48 suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 04:18:58 .fas azneita 04:19:02 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 04:19:13 Hello Everyone! 04:19:15 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-05-07#Agenda 04:19:24 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:19:33 Hi zerng07 04:20:10 Welcome to our meeting. 04:20:11 * azneita notes early bird deadline for pycon 15 may 04:20:19 +1 04:20:20 +1 ,dramsey 04:20:34 #link http://apac.pycon.org/d/user/register 04:20:37 is right link? 04:20:41 yep 04:21:02 KageSenshi, you have a couple travel plans, right? 04:21:37 .fas kalpurush 04:21:38 Kalpurush: kalpurush 'Moniruzzaman Monir' 04:21:45 i'll be at jakarta for plumi workshop at bogor for a week .. thinking of bringing some fedora 14 cds , laptop stickers and keychain over .. will be free on sunday 04:21:58 #chair kalpurush 04:21:58 Current chairs: KageSenshi azneita dramsey kalpurush suresht 04:22:09 will be there from monday till sunday 04:22:22 this coming monday :) 04:22:25 Cool KageSenshi! Good news! 04:22:31 on june i'll be at singapore for pycon apac 04:22:34 That's cool 04:22:51 Meeting up with Harish, too, right? 04:23:04 havent arrange that yet, but i hope able to do so 04:24:06 Good stuff, other news or next topic? 04:24:11 next :) 04:24:16 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:24:23 Next :) 04:24:26 Have sent a ping out, so next... 04:24:46 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 04:24:52 no ones here FAmSCo 04:24:58 is it? 04:25:06 May be not 04:25:07 True, suresht, but they review our logs. 04:25:21 dramsey, yes sure! 04:25:22 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY12_Q1_.28March_2011_-_May_2011.29_4 04:25:29 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_release_events#APAC 04:26:06 hi mether (Rahul) wow nice to hear! 04:26:10 I have a couple Fedora 15 Release Events at the end of May and beginning of June. 04:26:16 Hi mether. 04:26:28 Hi methet 04:26:56 Other events in your areas? 04:27:01 Sry hv a typing mistake 04:27:37 dramsey, i have new things to put together in our up coming FAD_lk 04:27:58 suresht, I saw a https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 is that the one? 04:28:14 we have some release parties in the pipeline 04:28:24 i mean have to inform some other schools regarding Harish idea 04:28:32 +1 suresht. 04:28:36 Excellent azneita! 04:28:58 +1 04:29:20 + 2 04:30:18 Good news! Other events, information or next topic? 04:30:54 i'm thinking, we can also put our events announcements on mailing list 04:31:14 +1 azneita, we need more exposure to our events! 04:31:15 i noticed, it's kind of silent next to other mailing lists :) 04:31:20 I like that idea! 04:31:26 Very true. 04:31:27 azneita, that also good idea 04:31:59 Is there some reason due to the time of year, like people busy with exams or work or something like that? 04:32:11 if you are publishing via AM list then they all will review 04:32:33 not really sure, most probably same are already posting on fplanet 04:32:51 which is not really that bad 04:33:04 just an encouragement :) 04:33:18 azneita, yes 04:33:24 Ah! I understand, that makes sense. 04:33:58 dramsey, we have almost 2 weeks left for f15 is it? 04:34:11 I think around May 24th. 04:34:16 Does that sound right? 04:34:19 yep 04:34:33 any news on media? :P 04:34:34 so dramsey we have get ready for media 04:34:47 KageSenshi, yep??? 04:34:48 Other ideas or next topic? Which has media... 04:34:58 next topic then :) 04:34:58 #topic APAC plans 04:35:04 Let us talk media. 04:35:11 ok right place! dramsey 04:35:23 I remember on Wednesday, Harish has idea to help us. 04:35:45 dramsey, we have get media f15 as as soon as after f15 release 04:36:03 any numbers suresht? 04:36:06 suresht, do you have an idea for quantity and type? 04:36:20 so way si producing locally or get from singapore or kaio? 04:36:29 err/si/is 04:36:38 true suresht 04:36:50 #info Fedora Ambassadors are interested in news about media. 04:36:51 most probably sg is more feasible 04:37:04 azneita, i hope so 04:37:08 suresht, did bckurera have a problem getting Kaio's media? 04:37:25 I remember something about import taxes... 04:37:29 i remember, things are costly back at BNE 04:37:51 dramsey, when Harish sends from sig via feedex some tax prob,bckurera told me 04:38:17 and kaio is paying out of pocket, as far as i know 04:38:20 but via the srilankan postal i dont think so it will be big problem 04:38:26 Ah, that was it!!! 04:38:52 dramsey, still i din not get kaio media(almost 200 pcs) f14 04:39:09 #info We need to help coordinate and avoid unnessary fees to our Fedora Ambassadors. Sort of lessons learned. 04:39:20 i'll ping kaio on that suresht 04:39:34 suresht, do you want to do a #info ? Yes, do as azneita asks. 04:39:39 azneita, yes pls! 04:39:50 dramsey, info 04:39:56 +1 azneita 04:40:25 dramsey, about f15 we have make clear to get those cd's/dvd's on time 04:40:55 true suresht 04:40:57 it will produce locally or from overseas 04:41:07 Hmmmh, remembers something about that Red Hat Legal Form for non-tax media...may be that is an idea to send with the media...or to research whatever paperwork needed to help remove tax / fee problems. 04:41:33 true suresht 04:42:10 see dramsey sice we are talking about f14 but at the time now f15 ready 04:42:11 i suggest for this cycle, produce locally then let's make a comprehensive plan for f16 04:42:26 +1 azneita, I like that! 04:42:40 +1 azneita 04:42:41 Understood, suresht 04:42:53 let's focus on events in the meantime :) 04:43:17 as harish posed it, innovate 04:43:27 and be creative 04:43:41 +1 04:43:43 i hope AM t-shirts will be ready from bckurera about net week 04:44:05 cool, that would be great 04:44:12 yey 04:44:23 yay :D 04:44:26 +100 04:44:45 Does this address our media questions? Or do we need #info #action #idea posted? 04:45:02 when it's ready bckurera ships to everyone who ordered 04:45:21 +1 04:45:31 That's good suresht 04:46:15 Other ideas, info or action? Or next topic? 04:46:23 next topic dramsey 04:46:43 Okay, hope Fedora 15 release events! Get your Release Party dinner. 04:46:50 #topic Red Hat Exams for Ambassadors 04:47:09 dramsey, how about this? 04:47:15 any news? 04:47:23 I have seen correspondence with herlo as well as mchua on an idea to support this as well as kaio's reference to training. 04:47:29 Need input from FAmSCo. 04:47:34 No other news. 04:47:41 i hope to take the exam in the next few months 04:47:42 Questions? or Next topic? 04:47:48 +1 04:47:49 ok dramsey understood! 04:47:54 Which exam, azneita? 04:47:58 but will probably take it on my own expense 04:48:16 rhcsa most likely 04:48:18 asmartgoat was interested too, RHCSA, I think? 04:48:22 +1 04:48:25 azneita, great 04:48:39 #info asmartgoat and azneita are interested in RHCSA exam. 04:48:47 need some paperwork on the resume 04:48:57 Credentials! 04:49:18 KageSenshi, Kalpurush and suresht how about you for exam? 04:49:23 so i can append some acronym next to my name :) 04:49:26 zern07, how about you? 04:49:37 RHCSA leads to RHCE... :D 04:49:53 dramsey, really i am willing to to RHCE but 04:49:58 dramsey, my position in this is kindof neuthral :) 04:49:59 have take some time 04:50:01 *neutral 04:50:19 XD 04:50:25 understood KageSenshi. 04:50:41 suresht, how about RHCSA? 04:50:58 if only we're close to each other we can have study groups 04:51:09 and kage will teach us :) 04:51:11 it means system administrator 04:51:12 XD 04:51:16 is it? 04:51:17 Ah, that is the concept which herlo and mchua are considering.... 04:51:19 I want RHCE, DRAMSEY 04:51:31 #info Kalpurush interested in RHCE 04:51:46 #info suresht interested in RHCE 04:51:54 azneita, i havent even take my lpi 102 yet XD 04:52:35 wait for me then :) 04:52:41 hehe 04:52:44 hehe 04:52:55 azneita, how much it will be for RHCSA? 04:53:00 azneita, the group study is in herlo and mchua thought process. 04:53:05 us $? 04:53:32 i've read about it but the challenge is distance 04:53:42 around PHP12k 04:53:54 depends on location, I think suresht. 04:54:20 This is great discussion and will be added to wiki content. 04:54:27 Other ideas or next topic? 04:54:28 ~$275 04:54:36 i think 04:54:43 +1 azneita 04:54:43 i have seen herlo twitter post in last week he has written for "ready for Rh exam some thing like that" 04:54:58 so may be he had in last week! 04:55:01 That is the essence suresht 04:55:47 More ideas or next topic? 04:56:07 azneita, thanks for the info and dramsey too may be different cost for APAC region 04:56:07 next topic 04:56:12 Could we link up with twitter/fb? 04:56:27 identi.ca 04:56:37 #idea Could we link up with twitter/fb? identi.ca 04:56:51 true 04:56:55 We only meet on the meeting 04:56:58 i can be found almost everywhere online under the handler 'kagesenshi' 04:56:59 :) 04:57:12 i just deleted my twitter 04:57:24 i have friend with KageSenshi and tuanta too via fb 04:57:27 i just leave my twitter idle since a year ago :) 04:57:33 Bt if we connect with twitter/fb it will be betr 04:57:41 and checks fb once ina ablue moon 04:57:52 #fedora-apac! 04:57:56 :) 04:58:00 * KageSenshi always on irc 04:58:01 #topic Ambassador Wear 04:58:02 i saw dramsey and azneita also via fb 04:58:13 We will be keep n touch :) 04:58:24 Sounds like bckurera's order is in the works. Delivery soon, right suresht? 04:58:35 +1 KageSenshi 04:58:41 dramsey, yes sure! 04:58:50 Okay, other thoughts or next topic? 04:58:57 i will work with him about that! 04:59:18 #info bckurera will have shirt delivery soon (most probably next week) 04:59:32 is that about right? 04:59:34 +1 azneita 05:00:29 now to Fedora magazine? 05:00:34 move to next topic 05:00:38 #topic Fedora APAC Magazine 05:00:43 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_APAC_Magazine 05:00:47 ok dramsey 05:00:54 #info UPDATES!!! - Still pending for ideas and suggestions, please join with the team and lets promote Fedora (bckurera) 05:00:56 it's from bckurera 05:01:21 There are few people on the project team... 05:01:22 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_APAC_Magazine#Project_Team 05:01:23 Kalpurush, can you work with him about it? 05:01:40 (if y'all want a system to help doing editorial workflow, i can help with that) 05:02:07 updates from kaio 05:02:14 about tute 05:02:23 Sounds like a #info KageSenshi, what do you think? 05:02:30 KageSenshi: what system? 05:02:33 plone 05:02:34 lol 05:02:41 +1 suresht 05:02:58 that's what you guys are specializing right, cool 05:03:19 Kalpurush and suresht, sounds like a #idea 05:03:23 a local news company here using it for their workflow stuff .. -> submit -> review -> publish 05:03:25 :) 05:03:32 then you can update something,i mean still you are in university so it is good for helping him? is it Kalpurush 05:03:43 dramsey, idea! 05:03:58 suresht, you have chair, you are empowered. 05:04:09 everyone has chair power...we are APAC 05:04:21 Yap suresht 05:04:32 KageSenshi, this is very interesting, sounds like a #idea for sure. 05:04:32 hehe 05:04:39 * azneita remembers the movie 300 05:04:49 ok dramsey #idea Kalpurush works with bckurera about fedora apac _Magazine! 05:04:52 sparta! 05:05:02 in our case apac hehe 05:05:05 err .. We Are Fedoraaaaaa!! 05:05:22 :-Dhahaha!!!:-D 05:05:22 (reminds me of that release Leonidas) 05:05:23 rawr 05:05:38 suresht, issue your #idea, is okay. 05:06:01 :) .. #idea #action #link doesnt need chair btw :) 05:06:01 #idea Kalpurush works with bckurera about fedora apac _Magazine! 05:06:26 same goes for #info 05:06:28 dramsey, ok got it.i will correct when next time 05:06:30 Cool KageSenshi. I always make sure we have #chair power in case someone gets dropped out, too. 05:06:41 ah ok :) 05:06:56 KageSenshi, I did not know that about the #info, too. Always learning. 05:07:04 Other thoughts everyone or next topic? 05:07:13 -> 05:07:15 next~ 05:07:23 #topic APAC Committee - Plan 2011/12 05:07:24 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-plan 05:07:35 #info UPDATES!!! - We need one FAm from each country please fill the wiki and then we can get together and create our plans. Therefore good to finalize this on the today meeting (bckurera) 05:07:50 There were a couple e-mails on the mailing list from bckurera. 05:07:57 * suresht thinks have learn a lot from IRC faq 05:08:07 whoops... 05:08:19 We have to move on with backura 05:08:22 interesting 05:08:41 i'll add myself 05:08:48 +1 05:08:58 yes me too! 05:09:13 #info Fedora Ambassadors add yourself to the https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-plan to assist 05:09:16 +1 05:09:26 +1 dramsey 05:09:47 Me too 05:10:01 +1 05:10:20 Other information, comments, or ideas on this topic? 05:10:51 ->, boss 05:11:01 ;) 05:11:16 lets move dramsey 05:11:20 #topic FUDcon APAC Committee 05:11:21 okay 05:11:33 #info UPDATES!!! - with the APAC Committee we can be it nicer (bckurera) 05:11:41 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FUDConAPACDraft 05:11:44 i saw an email from bckurera just earlier 05:12:17 +1 we need to develop that FAD mojo power as Harish indicated. 05:12:20 yep 05:12:24 * suresht using daily digits AM mailing so it will reach after night 05:13:03 any u guys want a FAD event outline draft? 05:13:08 +1 dramsey 05:13:27 KageSenshi, pls! 05:13:30 i can copy it out from the email which i sent to local malaysian-users ml to the wiki 05:13:41 ok 05:13:42 +1 KageSenshi 05:13:46 care to copy me too KageSenshi 05:13:56 We can do it! 05:13:57 KageSenshi, pls forward me too! 05:13:59 azneita, i'll put it up in the wiki 05:14:07 much better :) 05:14:11 Me too,kagesenshi 05:14:16 ok :) 05:14:26 Yup, wiki, is best! ;) 05:14:31 -away- for a while, copying it out 05:14:33 sure! 05:14:36 As an extra place, too. 05:14:40 btw, i'm throwing my hat on malaysia's bid 05:14:50 A consideration which was written on Wednesday by Harish was the three APAC FUDCon concept. I think that this is great potential and we should develop our thoughts to support. 05:15:23 one for india, one for middle and one for oceania 05:15:24 So for example, one would be in India, one in Malaysia and one in China 05:15:31 +1 exactly! 05:15:40 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FADOutlineDraft < i'm copying it into here 05:15:40 dramsey, really i have read that log twice when Harish participated! 05:15:54 +1 KageSenshi 05:16:22 dramsey, we can have different ideas before the FAD 05:16:22 +1 suresht, great notes indeed, knowledge from Harish and others is truly powerful. 05:17:46 * azneita steps out for a while 05:17:50 because of experience1 05:18:18 Experience develops great ideas. Sharing those ideas is truly golden knowledge. 05:18:34 KageSenshi, thanks for the url when it's ready i will get it 05:18:51 great discussions! Other thoughts? 05:18:57 dramsey, yes your are true! 05:19:28 dramsey, lets move next topic 05:19:50 #idea Everyone share our ideas and develop our FAD mojo power in order to provide our foundation for our APAC FUDCon. ;) 05:20:02 #topic Online event for Fedora 15 in China. Need help for Media Distribution and Fedora swag 05:20:11 * azneita is back 05:20:21 Haowei Lee is not here so let us move to next topic, ok? 05:20:31 k 05:20:53 #topic LCA 2012 05:21:09 dramsey, yes sure,Haowei will update news when get back 05:21:20 LCA will forever be special for me hehe 05:21:50 new things? 05:22:08 asmartgoat lives near ballarat right 05:22:10 +1 05:22:16 melbourner area 05:22:27 Sry fellows , i m frm mobile, so tht i can't participate as well as 05:22:45 We are all doing great Kalpurush. ;) 05:22:47 no problem Kalpurush, we understand 05:23:04 Other thoughts for LCA2012? 05:23:08 +1 azneita 05:23:35 will ping asmartgoat about plans 05:23:42 Cool! 05:23:57 i want him there :) 05:23:57 yes! 05:24:26 I will try to carry forward ideas from the wednesday meetings to help us. 05:24:46 dramsey, sure! 05:24:46 hopefully, we can have a track there 05:24:53 a mini-conf 05:25:05 if we have speakers 05:25:08 Also, think if people are not able to make a meeting which is totally understandable, then an update to our meeting wiki would help everyone. What do you think? 05:25:23 +1 azneita 05:25:34 dramsey, +1 05:25:47 i believe that's dgilmore's idea before 05:25:49 +1 05:25:53 they can view the log 05:26:36 we can move on 05:26:38 Remembers azneita getting a boatload of swag from dgilmore and Red Hat... 05:26:39 :) 05:26:56 #topic APAC Library 05:27:15 and meeting cool guys from RH BNE 05:27:16 no ones here so shall we move on! 05:27:17 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FADOutlineDraft < saved 05:27:27 thanks KageSenshi 05:27:27 +1 KageSenshi 05:27:59 asmartgoat's topic, other thoughts? 05:28:00 thanks KageSenshi 05:28:04 great! 05:28:19 probably just need updating 05:28:19 * suresht bookmark it 05:28:45 #info All APAC Fedora Ambassadors should review the updated content by KageSenshi: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FADOutlineDraft < saved 05:29:22 just thinking it might help y'all in doing barcamp .. :) 05:29:33 +1 05:29:47 yes KageSenshi ! 05:30:07 at least on the last meeting it seems that not many familiar with it 05:30:09 you know this one time, at barcamp... 05:30:20 there will be a barcamp in Penang, Malaysia on 15th May 05:30:35 wow great KageSenshi 05:30:37 hahahaha.... 05:30:38 barcamp around here is quite popular among the social media crowds 05:30:52 soon you got it! 05:30:55 funny, i never been to one yet 05:31:07 must be hanging with the wrong crowd :) 05:31:12 we have 3 barcamps a year here :) 05:31:14 * suresht will try here! 05:31:17 north, central, south 05:31:41 been around since 3 years ago 05:32:04 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp :) 05:33:30 http://barcamppenang.blogspot.com/ 05:34:11 i'll move thing forward 05:34:13 6 days left for that KageSenshi ! 05:34:25 great! 05:34:32 suresht, i will be at jakarta so i'll skip that one :) 05:34:33 #topic Classrooms for APAC 05:34:46 FranciscoD's idea 05:34:48 KageSenshi, oh is it? 05:34:53 so other thoughts or next topic? 05:34:53 ok 05:35:01 #topic Open Floor 05:35:01 next pls/ 05:35:13 ... almost there 05:35:16 :D 05:35:18 Any Ideas that you have in your mind? 05:35:21 XD 05:35:26 Thank you all for attending today. ;) 05:35:30 it's quite a long way back 05:35:39 but i'm online now :) 05:36:09 Thinks that FranciscoD is way busy on his school thing but suggests tapping herlo's and mchua's along with kaio's thoughts on training as a supplement to help us. 05:36:26 dramsey, +1 05:36:28 ...Brainstorming... 05:36:50 sure will see in up coming days! 05:36:52 I am sure everyone will review our log content and today's was very rich content indeed. 05:37:15 i'm taking that the wed meeting will become a regilar gig, right? 05:37:18 dramsey, sure! 05:37:31 Sending positive Fedora 14 and 15 power to all your computers now! We can do it! :D 05:37:36 +1 azneita! 05:37:49 +1 dramsey "we can do it" 05:37:50 I think Harish wants to help provide guidance and clear vision to us all. 05:38:06 ... i'm good with everything now 05:38:08 With a good coach and good team, the results will be fantastic! :) 05:38:09 +1 05:38:15 Me, too!!! 05:38:18 Other thoughts? 05:38:20 +1 dramsey 05:38:41 pull the switch :D 05:38:48 Close? 05:38:52 Okay, countdown. 05:38:54 Harish good coach! 05:39:02 Thank you all for attending today's meeting. 05:39:07 +1 suresht 05:39:07 5 05:39:08 lets start dramsey ! 05:39:09 4 05:39:09 lots of stuff i want to do for fedora, though recently time is kindof limited XD 05:39:10 3 05:39:18 2 05:39:34 KageSenshi, so true, time the limited resource...like fresh water in some places 05:39:35 1 05:39:36 0.5 05:39:38 0 05:39:39 #endmeeting