09:58:34 #startmeeting 09:58:34 Meeting started Wed May 4 09:58:34 2011 UTC. The chair is harish. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 09:58:34 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 09:58:36 Anyone here for APAC meeting? 09:58:46 .fas tuanta 09:58:47 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 09:58:52 #chair tuanta harish 09:58:52 Current chairs: harish tuanta 09:59:18 ping dramsey 09:59:19 welcome dramsey 09:59:20 hi 09:59:32 #chair tuanta harish dramsey 09:59:32 Current chairs: dramsey harish tuanta 09:59:33 Hi Tuan 09:59:35 :) 09:59:37 ,fas 09:59:41 .fas 09:59:43 kalpurush: (fas ) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match. 09:59:45 ping suresht 09:59:45 .fas dramsey 09:59:47 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 09:59:48 .fas harish 09:59:51 harish: harishsk 'Harish Kumar S.K' - harishneit 'Harish Tummalacherla' - charish '' - harishom 'harish Mehta' - velagapudiharish 'velagapudi harish' - saphar 'hariharan saptharishi' - harishcyberhunk 'Gunneri Harish' - harishpgc '' (1 more message) 09:59:52 .fas kalpurush 09:59:55 kalpurush: kalpurush 'Moniruzzaman Monir' 10:00:09 hi dramsey,harish,tuanta 10:00:20 kalpurush, greetings! 10:00:26 i am in hanoi with tuan next to me. 10:00:28 Hello Everyone. 10:00:32 we are here, in Hanoi today, I and Harish :) 10:01:02 Fantastic Harish! 10:01:06 \o 10:01:06 Hello 10:01:11 .fas izhar 10:01:12 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 10:01:29 everyone is here 10:01:30 We haven't started yet have we? 10:01:38 good afternoon from bd 10:01:49 dramsey, i am in hanoi to speak at an ibm event tomorrow - IBM Technology Conference & Expo 2011 10:01:57 cool 10:02:04 Very cool. 10:02:06 cool, harish. Good Luck! 10:02:13 good luck, harish 10:02:27 i will be speaking abotu cloud/rhel 6. 10:02:28 Are we ready to start? 10:02:32 yes 10:02:38 +1 cloud/rhel 6 10:02:40 +1 dramsey 10:02:43 i've started the meeting already. 10:02:46 We are all ears to you, Harish. 10:02:51 we are already started :) 10:02:54 ok 10:03:03 it's the time to ping others 10:03:35 thanks, dramsey for setting this up. i have not been able to make saturday meetings as I have one too many errands to run with my 2 sons. 10:03:53 cool :) 10:03:55 We sincerely appreciate and respect your time, Harish. 10:03:57 so, i want to be able to have a weekday session with all - in addition to the saturday ones we run. 10:04:06 so now we attend meeting at wednesday , dramsey ? 10:04:07 +1 harish 10:04:24 please continue with the saturday sessions and i will join if i can - it will be on a mobile phone if i join on saturday :-). 10:04:26 +1 harish. 10:04:34 I think this time is fine for our bi-weekly meeting 10:04:52 hi suresht 10:04:55 agreed 10:05:00 +1 10:05:02 dramsey, can you do a roll call? would be good to see how many countries are represented. 10:05:03 i think Wednesday is ok 10:05:05 tuanta: hi 10:05:11 asmartgoat: hi 10:05:15 Sure, Japan here. 10:05:17 dramsey: hi 10:05:17 KageSenshi : Malaysia 10:05:19 hi suresht 10:05:23 Hi suresht 10:05:27 harish, singapore 10:05:32 .fas suresht 10:05:33 suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 10:05:37 Luke Martinez: Australia 10:05:48 Monir , Bangladesh 10:06:02 asmartgoat, where in australia? 10:06:10 Melbourne, Victoria 10:06:21 asmartgoat, cool. 10:06:31 kalpurush hi 10:07:04 suresht,srilanka 10:07:17 no one from india? 10:07:37 philippines is missing. 10:07:50 india missing 10:08:04 * suresht oh meeting still not start 10:08:12 it's started 10:08:37 #topic Ambassador Pinging 10:08:44 suresht , meeting start bt we are warm up :) 10:08:51 tuanta: is it. ok im sorry for late 10:08:59 Yup, azneita and bckurera will probably be later due to their schedule. FranciscoD is doing that Suresh thing, but will try. 10:09:01 no problem :) 10:09:36 ok all. good to be back on this chat. i feel back in the thick of things! 10:09:58 should we wait for someone else? 10:10:09 or next topic? 10:10:16 next topic please 10:10:22 #topic News from FAmSCo 10:10:25 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-05-04 10:10:28 next topic 10:10:40 Any news Harish for us? 10:10:48 harish: herson pagcaliwagan in fedora_ambassadors 10:11:04 i have none from famsco. but i have other stuff to talk about. 10:11:19 go on harish 10:11:22 yes, please, Harish 10:11:29 Please, Harish. 10:11:37 +1 10:11:39 based on the last meeting, there were comments about the FUDcon in APAC 10:12:09 hi KageSenshi 10:12:15 i'd like to see how best we can get this going. i have not spent time trying to figure out the logistics etc. 10:12:17 hi suresht :) 10:12:38 Understood. 10:12:45 i saw a proposal from KageSenshi to run it in Malaysia/Singapore. Was that the only proposal? 10:13:15 think so 10:13:21 I think so. 10:13:24 Suresht, did bckurera and you have any ideas for you? 10:13:43 I heard another from China 10:13:50 Also, I believe that gbraad and kaio are having some FUDcon discussions, too. 10:13:52 +1 Tuan 10:13:52 dramsey, yes he sent something. let me pull that up. 10:14:55 nothing specific from bckurera though. his note was just a ping to me. 10:15:08 the key thing for a FUDcon is that we need to 10:15:08 okay. 10:15:30 ensure that we have some good topics to cover. my sense is that if we do a series of FADs, then we gain some traction in 10:15:39 terms of what the various topcis and speakers etc can be 10:15:47 and then we can elevate it to a FUDcon. 10:15:52 +1 harish 10:15:57 +1 10:16:05 our other challenge is that we have a widely distributed region. 10:16:06 +1 10:16:17 we need to have multiple FADs and FUDcons. 10:16:18 +1 10:16:25 in order to engage as many people as possible 10:16:32 the other consideration is cost. 10:16:34 sorry, quite late 10:16:39 azneita, welcoem 10:16:40 hi azneita 10:16:46 hi azneita. 10:16:56 hi azneita 10:17:02 anybody ahs a log of things i missed 10:17:11 so all things considered, let's see if we can plan a FAD per quarter for the next 6 months - it's just a suggestion. 10:17:15 Harish is talking about FUDcon in APAC 10:17:22 3 fudcons for APAC? south, central, west ? :) 10:17:36 Bring it down to two i believ 10:17:37 e 10:17:37 +1 Harish 10:17:43 if there are drivers, why not :) 10:17:49 FADs are easier to setup and run and graduating to a FUDCon would be easier once we have done atleast a FAD in each sub geo. 10:18:09 +1 10:18:13 +1 10:18:17 * KageSenshi nods 10:18:20 sounds good 10:18:22 Experience to build upon... 10:18:26 +1 10:18:26 nods 10:18:37 dramsey, exactly. we need to have experience in doing this. 10:18:41 I will also try to organize FAD in Vietnam first 10:18:58 at the end of the day, FAD or FUDcon - the stuff is the same. it is just a branding and expectation setting. 10:19:04 the team here have experience in handling other conferences .. but not FUDCon type .. 10:19:28 ok. let me see if we all understand what the FUDcon really is 10:19:36 has anyone attended one yet? 10:19:44 Me, no 10:19:46 not me 10:19:47 >.< 10:19:49 * tuanta no 10:19:49 nope 10:19:51 i have had the luxury to attend three - all in the US. 10:19:54 not me 10:20:00 OK 10:20:05 nope 10:20:05 let me explain what happens. 10:20:15 it is run like a barcamp. 10:20:23 all know what a barcamp is? 10:20:27 yeap 10:20:35 yes, I know 10:20:44 I think so...sort of 10:20:55 i have read about it :) 10:20:58 ok, so, with a barcamp like model, we seek speakers and topics. 10:21:00 dramsey, theres several barcamps in .jp i believe 10:21:18 they will pitch at the beginning of the event to all of us attending FUDcon. 10:21:30 yes barcamps are run as follows: 10:21:48 a) all the speakers would have signed up somewhere - online on some website 10:22:01 b) they'll suggest topics with synopsis etc 10:22:12 c) then say the day starts at 830 am. 10:22:28 d) all the potential speakers will pitch their topics to the audience -= 10:22:39 * suresht sorry for interrupting,signal prob 10:22:45 about 10-15 seconds each (depending on the number of speakers volunteering) 10:23:05 and then all the topics are written on a post-it note or something liek taht 10:23:11 and pasted on a wall somewhere. 10:23:39 the organizer will then get all the participants to view all the posts and vote - by ticking on the post. 10:24:16 give all the audience some 20minutes to vote and then the organizer will arrange the talks into tracks and populartity 10:24:23 and that become the event. 10:24:34 yep 10:24:42 no prior arrangement of who talks when and stuff like that. it is 10:24:43 wow 10:24:47 Excellent, yes! 10:24:48 all voted by the attendees. 10:24:51 it's that I didn't know before: how to organizing it 10:24:54 so the talks are spontaneous 10:25:04 that way people get to hear what they want to hear 10:25:16 if we can have multiple tracks then so much the better 10:25:23 +1 10:25:23 but it is dependent on the facility 10:25:32 +1 10:25:33 usually a school would be the best location. 10:25:41 yeap .. lots of classrooms 10:25:42 so unlike a regular conference, tracks are voted on the day itself... 10:25:55 we've run it at Red Hat's HQ, in Arizona State University last January etc. 10:26:03 azneita, exactly. 10:26:13 Very cool. 10:26:15 so that means we have to have enough potential speakers and topics. 10:26:29 yes, I see 10:26:31 we can also have lightning talks - 5-10 minutes each. 10:26:58 now we are not constrained to follow the barcamp model. we should do what works for us. 10:27:06 #info We need potential speakers and topics. 10:27:08 #info We need to do this FAD thing first. 10:27:31 Harish, I have read something about FUDPub or hacksfests, what are those about? 10:27:33 the barcamp model is nice because you really don't know what talks will be best received by all. 10:27:36 harish, crowd wise, how large is considered a FAD, and how large is considered FUDCon ? 10:27:54 that is hard to tell, KageSenshi 10:28:16 number of participants is really driven by topics and other timings 10:28:21 yeap 10:28:25 yes harish what is FUDPub and Hacksfests ? 10:28:29 yep 10:28:38 hackfest -> code stuff 10:28:39 FUDpub is really a time to chill out and have fun at the end of the day. 10:28:45 the barcamp model would be great if almost everyone is capable of being a speaker... 10:28:55 +1 azneita 10:28:58 if FUDcon is 2 days, usually FUDPub is at the end of Day 1 10:29:04 if not, hybri of a regular conf + barcamp 10:29:04 +1 azneita 10:29:18 azneita, that is true. hence the need to do a FAD first 10:29:27 +1 10:29:28 gain some experience in doing this. 10:29:29 i see your point harish 10:29:34 +1 10:29:50 as well as telling people that this is how we want to do this. 10:30:02 and that it is not your regularly scheduled "boring" conference :-). 10:30:08 haha 10:30:12 haha 10:30:12 :) 10:30:16 my worry with barcamp model for FAD is that the crowd who can speak tend to drill down back to the few usual guys 10:30:17 It's exciting! 10:30:24 hmm 10:30:26 both FAD and FUDcons will also have hackfests 10:30:41 the idea is just as someone wanting to talk at FUDcon, someone 10:30:48 can propose a hackfest topic and 10:30:57 orgnanize it accordingly. 10:31:14 really cool 10:31:18 +1 10:31:19 at the last FOSS.in, we had a FAD and they also included a hackfest set of topics. 10:31:57 some hackfests last 1/2 hr, or a whole day on one topic. it is driven by the main champion of that hackfest topic. 10:32:08 harish, since most of us haven't been able to attend a fudcon yet wouldn't that make the fudcon sort of regular conference-like 10:32:19 that's what we're accustomed to 10:32:41 aha, the FAD 10:32:43 azneita, yes, that can be done that way. 10:33:01 but the challenge is that you need to solicit and lock down the speakers and topics 10:33:11 people here are accustomed to barcamp model .. though for a Fedora barcamp, number would be very small .. 10:33:27 not that it is not doable, but the barcamp has the element of surprise as well. 10:33:48 which is interesting in itself 10:33:52 yeap :) 10:34:20 as a reference for the last FUDcon in Arizona State in Jan, i think 10:34:29 there were in excess of a 100 talks pitched 10:34:37 but only about 30 actually were run. 10:34:39 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Tempe_2011 10:34:46 cool 10:34:51 I'll try to run our release party as a barcamp 10:35:12 azneita, that'll be a good thing to do. gain some experience doing it. 10:35:17 i'm interested what topics will be proposed 10:35:34 i expect topics changes per group 10:35:42 guess i gotta look around for potential speakers for a local fedora barcamp :) .. 10:36:01 we will organize an event called Open Day this month. I like barcamp style 10:36:07 my advise is to start smallish - hence the idea of a FAD. 10:36:19 harish, define small :) 10:36:30 a couple of hundreds ;) 10:36:33 small as in 1/2 day 10:36:38 +1 10:36:48 * KageSenshi sees 10-20 attendees as small 10:36:52 so that you can run another or extend the 1st one to a full day 10:36:53 ah ok 10:37:07 +1, harish 10:37:09 half day sounds good 10:37:16 we have two dimensions - duration and participants. 10:37:48 each session is about 30 minutes long with a hard stop and no overflow. overflow will be done at a later time - based on interest. 10:38:07 so leave some rooms in the evenings/lunch/dinner times to continue. 10:38:29 +1 10:38:33 +1 10:38:38 sounds good 10:38:49 * azneita is taking note 10:38:51 unlike the US and EU, we have the issue of travel costs to the various cities to reckon with. 10:39:04 and I don't want that to be the issue for us NOT to have a FAD/FUDcon 10:39:14 let's be creative in how to do this. 10:39:21 True, the region is so huge... 10:39:30 +1 10:39:31 I like your idea of central and other location. 10:39:35 get an university student computer club to get excited and move it to the next level. 10:39:43 huge region, with few contributors 10:40:19 that's why i would like to have some focused opportunities for students to present what they did 10:40:36 i set up a computer & programming club in my uni, hope so arrange FAD between 2-3 month 10:40:39 i think India can run a FUDcon because they've got a reasonable number of contributors already. 10:40:47 harish, yeap 10:40:50 kalpurush, good. 10:41:18 +1 10:41:25 kalpurush, +1 10:41:26 i don't want to dampen the enthusiasm. i am sure we can be creative in doing this. 10:41:30 same goes for .au i think :) 10:41:42 +1 India 10:41:50 we don't have to follow the EU/US model per se. 10:41:54 I'm not to sure about australia. 10:41:59 +1 harish 10:42:04 asmartgoat, why? 10:42:12 we have to to with our own way 10:42:26 +1 kalpurush harish 10:42:35 I don't think we have anywhere near the 50+ contributors in india here 10:42:36 I will try it here 10:42:36 we hv to go with our own way 10:42:39 let's see if I can put this idea past all of you. 10:42:46 it would be a nice experiment - relying on the "passion and the responsibility of the participants" 10:42:51 let's say we want to run a contest of sorts. 10:43:05 a contest with schools invited to participate 10:43:17 the contest is to create some stuff for Fedora 10:43:36 +1 !! 10:43:43 +1 10:43:43 and given the distances we have in this region, a requirement is that the participants must be from different countries. 10:43:45 +1 10:43:48 in a team 10:43:52 Brilliant. 10:44:09 harish, you'll probably need to do a talk in schools for it to promote fedora. 10:44:12 that way we will force the idea of a collaborating with all the tools we have to achieve something. 10:44:41 asmartgoat, that is easy for me to do. once we get a contest idea defined and moving forward 10:44:49 #idea competition in FUDCon, where schools are invited to participate , with requirement is that the participants must be from different countries 10:45:33 then we can have a session - award event - somewhere 10:45:42 what's the prize? i don't know yet. 10:45:47 perhaps an internship? 10:45:54 perhaps a Fedora scholarship? 10:45:56 a trip to fudcon 10:46:02 fudcon APAC :) 10:46:02 internship is better 10:46:03 azneita, +1 10:46:11 internship where? 10:46:27 Red Hat APAC office somewhere 10:46:36 we have I think 20+ offices in APAC 10:46:49 yes, theres one in every major city. :) 10:47:00 but those are just suggestions. 10:47:02 2 in KL ? 10:47:05 bt not a single one in bangladesh 10:47:23 kalpurush, not yet i think. the closest is in calcutta 10:47:25 we have a GSoC-like contest for Vietnamese students annually 10:47:40 it's good to join with them 10:47:41 tuanta, yes that'll be a good starting point as well. 10:47:50 yap harish, bt there is problem with visa 10:48:09 kalpurush, let's visit that when we need to. 10:48:21 that's usually the smallest of issues really. 10:48:21 it's not a big problem within Asean countries 10:48:23 now a days get a indian visa frm bangladesh is very tuff :( 10:48:52 it sometimes happens 10:48:52 kalpurush, ok, perhaps we do it in a "neutral" country like Singapore :-). 10:49:04 hehe 10:49:07 +1 harish :) 10:49:10 but we are way ahead of ourselves. 10:49:20 so is the idea of a contest reasonable? 10:49:25 +1 10:49:27 +1 10:49:27 Yes, reasonable 10:49:37 let's throw stuff out - why will it NOT work? 10:49:47 it's reasonable and i'd like to run one locally 10:50:04 please note it as a meisheting's idea, har 10:50:10 need to thresh out the contest details but i'm good with the overall concept 10:50:18 please note it as a meeting's idea, harish 10:50:26 i've been running a 24-hr programming contest in Singapore for 5 years now. it is open to anyone really. only requirement to be in Singapore for the contest 10:50:38 Cool! 10:50:52 great job, harish 10:50:57 we've run contests for universities, but not the cross-membership thing 10:50:58 #link http://www.codextremeapps.org/ 10:51:31 and yes, red hat has been sponsoring it. 10:52:12 i'd like to see folks from the Fedora APAC community participate in it. it will be most wonderful from my point of view if that can happen this year. 10:52:20 ref to the http://www.codextremeapps.org/ 10:52:28 +1 10:53:09 anyway, we can use that as a model and do a Fedora Coding Contest 10:53:24 Good, I understand. 10:53:27 not 24 hours per se, but say over two weeks or something. 10:53:51 just to share - http://bluepoint.com.ph/index.php?entry=20090810000052 10:53:58 i think the next step is for someone to take ownership of this and run with it. 10:54:18 azneita, that'll work as well. 10:54:38 Nice 10:54:39 but if we do this across the region, we can be leading the thinking here. 10:55:03 +1 10:55:07 +1 10:55:07 +1 10:55:11 +1 10:55:11 Ruby language nice... 10:55:13 +1 10:56:01 this is a nice topic for FAD :) 10:56:03 Yeah what languages. We can rule out the evil ones. :) Should it be any language that runs on linux. python, ruby, java etc? 10:56:05 so, who'd like to start looking into this? i'm happy to brainstorm 10:56:18 gnome-shell extensions to make fedora nicer 10:56:19 XD 10:56:26 the way you want to do this is to come up with a theme 10:56:39 a theme that gives a sense of what we are looking for. 10:56:56 so for example, for codextremeapps, this year's theme is "personalized transportation" 10:57:19 so that is centered on using HTML5 and mobile to help you navigate etc. 10:57:47 the advantage is that it helps people focus and then the ideas flow. language - anything really. 10:58:02 yeap ... any language should be allowed :) 10:58:23 +1 ,kageSenshi 10:58:33 ideally the language should be available on a Linux/Fedora platform. 10:58:36 (except for w32 .Net) 10:58:49 yep 10:59:00 our contest need not have the requirement of being cross platform. 10:59:19 codextremeapps need crossplatform stuff btw. 11:00:33 the contest is a good run-up to a major regional event 11:00:37 we are past one hour now. 11:00:38 say t-1month 11:00:47 :) 11:00:53 that'll work. 11:00:57 +1 11:01:09 and judging and prizes on event itself 11:01:13 so, what about doing this for Fedora 16 launch? 11:01:25 That gives 7 months. 11:01:25 What kind of timeframe to plan and put these things together? 11:01:30 we run a contest that starts say in September 11:01:33 really i am getting good ideas from here! 11:01:36 +1 11:01:45 been out of touch with uni lately but i'm meeting them this weekend so let's see 11:02:08 Do want this to be an agenda item for next week / milestone goal? 11:02:14 dramsey, yes please 11:02:18 +1 11:02:23 + dramsey 11:02:25 +1 11:02:27 +1 you got it! 11:02:31 Should we move on, we've been here for an hour and we're still on famsco :) 11:02:37 i got several unis which i can contact :) 11:02:38 ok 11:02:59 cool! 11:03:10 +1 11:03:14 next topic? 11:03:17 yep 11:03:26 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 11:03:34 Nothing from me, just my biweekly Akihabara 11:03:42 FAD in lk 11:03:49 when, suresht ? 11:03:55 up coming event 11:04:00 ok 11:04:10 there is a ISOC event in LK this month btw. 11:04:10 F15 on early June 11:04:16 ISOC - Internet Society 11:04:45 we are planning for F15 release parties at the end of May 11:04:55 how about media? 11:04:57 harish: not yet fixed date may be it will happen after f15 11:05:04 ok 11:05:10 btw, we are missing China here. 11:05:11 we will burn media ourselves 11:05:14 i'd take anything you throw at me harish :) 11:05:38 azneita, ok. i am planning on f15 live DVDs 64-bit. will that be OK? 11:05:50 that will be great! 11:05:54 we had a Chinese in the last meeting 11:05:58 this year's LCA needed 64 bit CDs. 11:06:11 Is it possible to have both install DVDs and Live CD's 11:06:11 harish: here too migarting to 64 most of them 11:06:11 +1 harish 11:06:20 RC medias? XD 11:06:23 ref: China, we have a person Haowei who is keen to become a mentor i think. 11:06:38 #chair azneita 11:06:38 Current chairs: azneita dramsey harish tuanta 11:06:57 asmartgoat, why both? 11:07:09 bandwidth down under? 11:07:17 i remember that 11:07:21 350MB 11:07:27 ouch 11:07:41 CD's to people trying linux, DVD's for others. 11:07:50 +1 11:07:53 I can probably get CD's done here, it might be more expensive though 11:08:03 ok, so perhaps 20% install DVDs 64-bit and 80% live DVD 64-bit? 11:08:13 I also would like to become a mentor to develop Fedora community in Vietnam 11:08:17 +1 harish 11:08:21 +1 11:08:24 but I don't know how to get started 11:08:39 i don't recall how many was made for F14 - i think it was 2000 pcs - all 32-bit liveCDs. 11:08:54 tuanta, what do you mean? 11:09:01 #chair KageSenshi 11:09:01 Current chairs: KageSenshi azneita dramsey harish tuanta 11:09:28 I meant there are a lot of Fedora users in Vietnam now 11:09:51 what can we do for them? 11:09:52 I think the way I can concentrate them is to develop the network of Fedora Ambassadors here 11:10:06 you have my vote if there ever is one tuan :) 11:10:09 +1 Tuan 11:10:18 Me, too Tuan! 11:10:23 We believe in you! 11:10:27 +1 Tuan 11:10:52 here's a topic to think about: disaster planning. especially natural disasters. how can fedora users help? what tools are there? 11:11:00 it works in all areas really. 11:11:16 a Fedora Emergency system for example. 11:11:18 erm .. gtg .. got another meeting soon XD .. 11:11:32 KageSenshi, ok. thanks for taking part 11:11:36 * azneita need to go now too 11:11:36 harish: more about that 11:11:46 Good example Harish! 11:12:14 a CD/DVD/USB that contains all the tools for an emergency 11:12:15 Like my Fedora was the only working communication, the cellular phones' network stopped. Priceless. ;) 11:12:15 i'm leaving my console open 11:12:47 <_kalpurush> Sry i go dc. 11:12:58 <_kalpurush> Now frm phn:( 11:13:36 <_kalpurush> .fas 11:13:37 _kalpurush: (fas ) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match. 11:13:58 looks like people are falling off. 11:14:01 :-) 11:14:12 True. 11:14:20 we are here 11:14:30 i'm here 11:14:31 got some ideas and items to move ahead on. 11:14:38 oh, ok. 11:14:39 it is the time to learn from harish 11:14:45 <_kalpurush> I m here 11:14:45 Go ahead harish. 11:14:55 otherwise cant catch him 11:14:56 come on please 11:15:07 the emergency system is something that we should do. 11:15:42 a special spin. 11:15:52 It made sense to me 11:15:53 sry i got dc :( 11:15:58 Fedora Critical? 11:16:02 kalpurush, go! 11:16:15 asmartgoat, yes that sound critical enough :-). 11:16:23 It has a nice ring to it 11:16:28 harish, now i m back frm phn 11:16:43 kalpurush, :-0 11:16:50 Can someone Chair me in? 11:16:51 something like SystemRescueCD http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page 11:17:00 #chair asmartgoat 11:17:00 Current chairs: KageSenshi asmartgoat azneita dramsey harish tuanta 11:17:03 ty 11:17:31 tuanta, yes, but more specifically Fedora-based. 11:17:53 So Fedora Critical would be a Super-stable Super-battery saving version of fedora? 11:17:55 not a system rescue per se, but a cd that could be containing the ushahidi and related stuff. 11:18:20 i m not on chair, someone chair me in 11:18:22 :( 11:18:23 +1 harish 11:18:30 #chair kalpurush 11:18:30 Current chairs: KageSenshi asmartgoat azneita dramsey harish kalpurush tuanta 11:18:30 #chair kalpurush 11:18:30 Current chairs: KageSenshi asmartgoat azneita dramsey harish kalpurush tuanta 11:18:34 :) 11:18:50 i've been on the "internet" since about 1986. 11:19:00 and it was ARPAnet with a UUCP backbone. 11:19:08 a really long time 11:19:24 we have UUCP in Fedora. UUCP over TCP/IP works well. Or over a DIALUP modem (!!) 11:19:41 harish, maybe an I am alive button on the computer that sends an email to a list that you specify that you are alive with the last ounce of battery you have left on x system :) 11:20:05 asmartgoat, makes sense. 11:20:27 hi FranciscoD 11:20:42 FranciscoD, welcome! 11:20:45 hi fra 11:20:52 hi FranciscoD 11:20:53 I ran back as quickly as I could. Please tell me I didn't miss the entire meeting? :/ 11:21:00 suresht: harish : tuanta : asmartgoat : Hello *all* :D 11:21:00 nope :0 11:21:03 hi , FranciscoD 11:21:06 #chair FranciscoD 11:21:07 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi asmartgoat azneita dramsey harish kalpurush tuanta 11:21:09 err/ FranciscoD hi 11:21:17 A very long meeting. :) 11:21:21 FranciscoD, missed 82 minutes of it :-). 11:21:28 * FranciscoD faints 11:21:36 We are currently discussing: "Fedora Critical" Spin 11:21:42 pray please continue 11:22:29 it is an idea about how best to have a Fedora spin that work in emergencies - natural calamaties etc. 11:22:59 that's really an amazing idea! Please continue, I'll go skim through the logs 11:23:03 it can be in a DVD/CD/USB whatever. The notion is that we have a realible means to communicate 11:23:18 when all else fails. even the internet is down. 11:23:24 LiveCD is better 11:23:26 how can we link up? 11:23:30 #info I am alive - A button that (connects via dialup / wifi / ethernet) and sends an email to prespecified list saying "I am alive. -- Sent by the Fedora Ok System" :D 11:23:46 asmartgoat, :-) 11:23:48 It'll just be a script with an icon on desktop for quick access 11:23:51 + 1 , asmartgoat 11:24:10 well, depends on the scale of the nataural calamity 11:24:21 what would be great to happen is that it can do a mesh network in a hurry 11:24:26 if your computers/laptops didn't survive it, makes no sense 11:24:43 of course FranciscoD 11:24:47 like online ups(if anything happend power/server) sending sms 11:25:04 but if it does, can we get useful stuff working on it to communicate trivially. 11:25:07 It _has_ to be 32bit 11:25:18 asmartgoat, perhaps. 11:25:30 and it would need to run on ARM as well :-). 11:25:34 :) 11:25:52 I should be able to put it into my VHS and expect it to work. 11:26:01 Wouldn't a mobile phone have more chances of surviving? (Given that people generally carry it in their pockets, even while fleeing?) 11:26:04 asmartgoat: +1 11:26:12 :D 11:26:53 yes, but this is to show that if you have a computer as well, something that is an option. perhaps it will be just a Package Group. 11:27:06 +1 11:27:29 not sure if any of you have used UUCP before. 11:27:47 maybe we should run a UUCP network amongst us. 11:27:55 asmartgoat: +1 11:28:06 * tuanta yes :) 11:28:20 A UUCP server? 11:28:33 * FranciscoD_ has no clue what that is : rushes to google 11:28:33 Fedora has UUCP already. 11:29:06 ok, looks like i need to write this up. we are 1.5 hrs into this meeting already. 11:29:12 :) 11:29:21 #link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UUCP 11:29:44 harish ,no prob please carry on 11:29:44 thanks tuanta for the info 11:30:07 we are in TCP/IP so it shoud be addtional info to read 11:30:27 if you look at #link http://stuff.mit.edu/afs/athena/reference/net-directory/maps/uucp.bak/u.sgp.1 you will see a uucp node I was running in Singapore called temasek.uucp 11:30:48 harish: thanks 11:30:55 i will see it 11:31:01 can we have something on mobiles too? I feel more people carry their cell phones in their pockets, more chances of mobiles surviving 11:31:13 suresht, it is not to replace anything - it is a tried and true system that was the precursor to the realtime internet we know and love today. 11:31:33 have not see uucp on a phone yet. #idea uucp on phone 11:31:45 #idea uucp on a phone 11:32:01 yes sure harish 11:32:07 +1 harish 11:32:11 for example, I have an android phone, a simple one click application etc? 11:32:17 +1k harish 11:32:20 yes 11:32:27 hi kaio 11:32:28 hi 11:32:31 tuanta, hi 11:32:31 kaio, welcome 11:32:31 hello 11:32:33 hi kaio 11:32:38 harish, long time no see 11:32:48 kalpurush, hi 11:32:49 kaio, indeed 11:32:50 hi kaio 11:32:55 FranciscoD, hi 11:32:58 asmartgoat, hi 11:32:58 kaio: hi 11:33:03 (so many hi.. hi all!) 11:33:21 kaio, i am in hanoi and tuanta is next to me in a cafe doing this chat :-). 11:33:35 harish, great 11:33:45 it's over 1 hour and a half now :) 11:33:47 harish, are you in any topics now? 11:34:12 it was a general topic area 11:34:15 Fedora Critical Spin :) 11:34:16 it's a great meeting i ever attend 11:34:22 waiting for FAmSCO update 11:34:48 am i the only famsco at the moment? 11:34:49 anything to update, kaio 11:35:00 yep 11:35:05 +1 kalpurush. a lot of ideas from harish 11:35:09 any updates on the chap from China? 11:35:26 harish, in SE Asia you should hear the news from any of us here, they are more the hero than me 11:35:50 :-) 11:36:08 Shall we move on? 11:36:12 most have dropped out now 11:36:14 For China, we are in discussion/planning to restructure the current web services of Fedora Chinese community/group 11:36:17 yes asmartgoat 11:36:39 kaio, i've sent some monies to Haowei for F15 expenses. 11:37:19 for Taiwan I have Ching Chia who is the most active FAm working out with the Fedora TW owner on how to promote Fedora among TW. 11:37:45 +1 kaio 11:37:48 * harish btw, i've got a hard stop at in about 12 minutes :50. i have a conference call at :00 11:38:00 harish, that is perfect, we are expecting him posting photos and stuffs of the events he is going to org 11:38:03 * tuanta too :) 11:39:20 we community of Fedora in China welcome haowei and are very happy to collaborate with him 11:39:59 in HK, no update yet. I am looking for new ambassadors and searching the current ones 11:40:08 ok 11:40:13 +1 kaio 11:40:39 in S Korea I have Aurelie who introducing Fedora to uni students in Seoul, have couple of app for ambassador already 11:40:50 gbraad, welcome 11:40:56 greatm I know her 11:40:59 Aurelie 11:41:00 gbraad , hi 11:41:02 in Japan, dramsey should be more informative than me 11:42:15 in ANZ, asmartgoat we may need to communicate with other fams in AU and NZ 11:42:25 I have to go now guys. :) 11:42:33 1 hour 42 minutes :) 11:42:48 see you asmartgoat 11:43:19 gotta go now. keep the chat going. i will check the logs. thanks all for participating! 11:43:25 (FYI, I have next 2-4 weeks occupiped in some personal issues but do my best to push myself in communication w/ you guys) 11:43:31 bye 11:43:34 halfline, cya take care 11:43:45 thank harish! 11:43:48 harish, cya take care 11:44:04 gbraad, I also just arrived 11:44:15 kaio, can you follow the chat with all now? 11:44:27 tuanta, sure, url? 11:44:50 I and Harish must go now 11:45:00 then please end the meeting and send its logs 11:45:07 can you do that, kaio? 11:45:13 * suresht here in srilanka 5:20 pm have another 10 min to off from office to take bus to home 11:46:03 tuanta: shall we closed meeting 11:46:11 or should we close the meeting here? 11:46:23 ok do the end 11:46:29 ok 11:46:30 3 11:46:35 I will close it now 11:46:37 2 11:46:46 any other ideas? 11:46:47 tanks all 11:46:48 1 11:46:52 thanks all 11:46:54 a nice meeting 11:46:56 0.5 11:47:02 #end-meeting 11:47:42 log??? 11:47:51 not sure :) 11:48:11 Where is the log? 11:48:18 char tuanta 11:49:39 #endmeeting