04:00:01 #startmeeting APAC meeting 2011-04-30 04:00:01 Meeting started Sat Apr 30 04:00:01 2011 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:01 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:14 #meetingname APAC 04:00:14 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:00:20 .fas dramsey 04:00:20 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:00:23 .fas izhar 04:00:24 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:00:28 .fas cnblue 04:00:29 Haowei: cnblue 'Haowei Lee' 04:00:40 .fas suresht 04:00:41 suresht: suresht 'Sureshkumar Packiyarajah' 04:00:45 .fas tuanta 04:00:45 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:00:48 using f14 from dvd .lk 04:00:50 #chair bckurera azneita tuanta KageSenshi suresht Oleg_ Haowei 04:00:50 Current chairs: Haowei KageSenshi Oleg_ azneita bckurera dramsey suresht tuanta 04:01:06 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:01:10 Hello Everyone 04:01:14 hi all 04:01:16 Welcome to our meeting. 04:01:17 hello all 04:01:22 .fas bckurera 04:01:23 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:01:32 Today agenda: 04:01:35 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:APAC_Ambassadors_2011-04-30#Agenda 04:01:38 Very good morning to all folks here 04:01:43 I am adding agenda still.. 04:01:50 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:02:00 +1 Haowei 04:02:02 thank you Tuan 04:02:09 May be next topic then? 04:02:28 (raise hand) 04:02:29 lcafiero was here earlier, must have dropped. 04:02:40 as we are having new folks 04:02:41 bckurera, what is in your mind? 04:02:47 good to welcome them first 04:02:51 Absolutely. 04:02:54 \m/ 04:03:05 Have the new folks introduced themselves? Please do. 04:03:12 +1 04:03:14 * suresht things going to be a good meeting 04:03:15 yes we are waiting :D 04:03:19 +1 dramsey 04:03:24 err/things/thinks 04:03:28 .fasinfo Haowei 04:03:29 tuanta: User "Haowei" doesn't exist 04:03:33 Hi. I am Oleg and I live in NYC. I recently started using Fedora and I enjoy it a lot 04:03:38 .fasinfo cnblue 04:03:39 Haowei: User: cnblue, Name: Haowei Lee, email: haowei.us@gmail.com, Creation: 2007-05-05, IRC Nick: Haowei, Timezone: GMT, Locale: zh_CN, Extension: 5101611, GPG key ID: 0x0FBC573E, Status: active 04:03:43 Haowei: Approved Groups: ambassadors cla_fedora cla_done marketing 04:03:58 hi Oleg_ 04:03:59 Welcome 04:04:03 welcome 04:04:08 thanks 04:04:12 NYC= newyork?? 04:04:14 yes 04:04:23 welcome Oleg_ 04:04:30 thanks :) 04:04:33 yep welcome :) 04:04:33 for you all, this is Haowei.Lee from China, I am now Chinese ambassador and chief administrator of Fedora Chinese community 04:04:39 welcome you all 04:04:44 cool 04:04:44 Welcome 04:04:50 Thanks all 04:04:58 hi Haowei 04:05:14 hi 0leg 04:05:15 ok then after a ncie welcome can we move? 04:05:17 No FAmSCo folks, so next topic? 04:05:25 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 04:05:26 +1 dramsey 04:05:32 we shall move on 04:05:35 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY12_Q1_.28March_2011_-_May_2011.29_4 04:05:53 Any news on FAD SL2011? 04:06:03 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_release_events#APAC 04:06:06 i dont have 04:06:12 what about suresht? 04:06:19 +1 Tuan 04:06:38 .fas azneita 04:06:41 dramsey, i was little busy with day job.coming week i will give my effort 04:06:42 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 04:06:42 due to my tight day routing these days as exams i m away of fad 2011 04:06:43 I am a bit confused why we need two wiki pages for Release Parties? 04:06:45 sorry abt that 04:06:47 bckurera, 04:06:51 will finish planing soon 04:06:52 Okay, no problem 04:07:26 bckurera, dramsey my be next week i have time to finish some works 04:07:27 Good question, the Release only stuff was put into the Fedora 15 Release events and the other page has stuff the for the year. 04:07:34 dramsey, I think I should add my media distrubtion to that page? 04:07:36 Sounds good bckurera and suresht 04:07:45 Sure Haowei 04:07:50 bckurera, agreed 04:07:52 ok 04:07:58 +1 dramsey 04:08:00 so that, we should add all release parties to the RP wiki page 04:08:08 +1 dramsey 04:08:13 +1 Tuan 04:08:17 i think its a bit late for me to add a release event right? 04:08:17 +1 04:08:18 XD 04:08:29 should not double it into the Fedora generic events page 04:08:29 I think we have a couple more weeks 04:08:55 from what Pierros and Robyn wrote on getting Fedora 15 release events out. 04:09:01 yes may 24 04:09:30 Good questions, other thoughts or next topic? 04:09:33 yes, then I need 1-2 days to make CDs 04:09:41 Me, too Tuan 04:09:53 all we need some days to prepare ;) 04:09:53 so all parties in Vietnam should be in that weekend 04:09:55 I think we need to prevent future import fee/tax problems 04:10:06 +1 everyone! 04:10:08 i ll talk abt that 04:10:10 dramsey, _1 04:10:14 dramsey, I will distribute more than 100 cds of F15 after releasing week 04:10:15 on the relavant topic 04:10:17 media 04:10:20 err/ dramsey +1 04:10:23 Cool! 04:10:33 :) suresht 04:10:36 additionally 04:10:52 tuanta, ^_^ 04:10:52 I am prepareing Fedora related stickers, posters also 04:11:00 hundrunds of them 04:11:07 Haowei nice 04:11:11 cool 04:11:12 Great, very nice 04:11:23 Ask for Marketing / Design help...don"t be shy 04:11:28 somehow too busy for me these days for the preparation 04:11:47 wish all of FAm nice release parties 04:11:56 can we move next topic? 04:11:59 yep 04:12:03 #topic APAC plans 04:12:09 Media, Swag and other needs? 04:12:33 That is the topic 04:12:37 I have 04:12:39 Due to all contrains 04:12:40 we'll be doing ours locallly 04:12:45 I have loddge a ticket 04:12:48 I put a drop in the agenda for the Fedora 15 release events - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F15_release_events|Fedora 04:12:52 I am not sure if any one could support me for Fedora swag 04:12:56 to get funding for local production of media 04:13:09 but i think we have to educate our FAmSCo 04:13:10 haowei, have you tried filing a ticket 04:13:14 more on this issue 04:13:17 I will need 4--5 04:13:17 Haowei, have you asked Kaio, Gbraad or Harish? 04:13:33 dramsey, have sent mail to Harish, did not see replies 04:13:39 I think all need special help for doing local media... 04:13:42 probably he's busy 04:13:47 what do you mean, bckurera? 04:13:52 he takes a while to reply :) 04:13:53 Okay, try Kaio and ticket thought, like azneita suggested 04:14:10 dramsey, will follow up 04:14:10 harish is at #teachingopensource from time to time 04:14:14 we need discuss this problem with Kaio n Gerard 04:14:42 otherwise we going to waste lot of funds 04:14:42 #idea Haowei, to touch base on swag needs 04:14:46 on tax and media 04:15:02 This sounds like an action and/or idea, what do you think bckurera? 04:15:18 +1 dramsey 04:15:29 bckurera, i agreed with you! 04:15:34 +1 04:15:35 action Discuss with FAmSCo members about media production locally 04:15:40 +1 04:15:44 #action Discuss with FAmSCo members about media production locally 04:15:50 Perfect! 04:16:08 I didnt see Kaio and Gerard in APAC meetings 04:16:16 :) 04:16:17 recently :) 04:16:20 I hope we get fedora 15 release dinner for you all! 04:16:34 I am sure everyone reads our log stuff. So that is good 04:16:35 it has not been decided in FAmSCo 04:16:46 not yet 04:16:52 Ah... 04:17:06 first thing to consider is media 04:17:09 dinner was available in the past for F13, F14 04:17:12 #info What is the updated scoop for Fedora 15 Release Dinner for our people... 04:17:20 if we going to arrange some release parties we have to have media so 04:17:23 +1 dramsey 04:17:24 yep media is higher priority, dinner is nicetohave :) 04:17:25 bckurera, very true. 04:17:39 before that we have to discuss the problem and get their permission plus help 04:17:42 -1, KageSenshi 04:17:46 dramsey, maybe I could try that 04:17:48 XD 04:17:49 both are important ;) 04:17:51 then we can make our event smooth 04:17:53 tuanta, haha 04:17:54 XD 04:17:55 kidding :) 04:17:57 KageSenshi, do you have special media needs 04:18:12 dramsey, i have enough F14 .. will need F15 once its released 04:18:28 Do you need local produced media? 04:18:34 i dont have F14 04:18:36 Or provided media? 04:18:48 Harish sent me some but due to custom rules I missed them 04:18:50 dramsey, something from singapore would be good enough 04:18:51 I can have some voluteers to burn about 100 CDs per day 04:18:55 bckurera, Gerard Braad did last FAmSCo meeting. 04:19:08 though not sure how fast singapore produce them 04:19:09 Understood. 04:19:10 so we will burn it ourselves 04:19:11 ohh sorry then I didnt notice 04:19:18 you keep talking about CDs, but what about DVDs? :) 04:19:28 butfor release parties we should have some qulity CDs 04:19:31 #info What is the state of Fedora 15 media from Singapore to help KageSenshi and others. 04:19:41 CDs don't include all fedora packages, right? 04:19:54 exactly, Oleg_ 04:19:55 #info Some Ambassadors would prefer to produce local media due to customs. 04:19:58 if it takes a while , then probably self-burned cds are needed .. 04:20:07 but it's enough, I think 04:20:24 Oleg_ good question, usually is a Live DVD or something like that. there are others with KDE and GNOME 04:20:50 #info IN Sri Lanka KDE has more demand 04:21:08 Good questions. 04:21:17 Other thoughts / actions / ideas? 04:21:21 dramsy 04:21:44 please Haoewi 04:21:50 :) 04:21:53 s/Haoewi/Haowei 04:21:56 my event for F15 in China maybe totally a new idea for promotion as I arranging it on our local twitter 04:21:57 both are wrong names 04:22:03 before the next topic I have some important thing 04:22:28 Sounds good Haowei. 04:22:31 tuanta, XD 04:22:41 great Haowei 04:22:42 I will call for a live reporting and QA for F15 come out when releasing week 04:22:52 Great 04:22:59 hurm .. regarding F15 media, what i notice that it takes a while for singapore to produce final release medias .. is it a good idea to request for RC medias instead for the release events ? 04:23:05 then I will go to media distribution includes cds and dvds 04:23:26 Haowei, can you write a wiki to share to everyone?! 04:23:31 KageSenshi, good question. Should we list as #info or #idea? 04:23:37 i think idea 04:23:40 +1 Tuan tuanta 04:23:57 #info regarding F15 media, what i notice that it takes a while for singapore to produce final release medias .. is it a good idea to request for RC medias instead for the release events 04:24:01 tuanta,I will public my plan for the event on our fedorachina.wordpress.com 04:24:02 How"s that? 04:24:10 all of you could read it on planet fedora 04:24:29 I have added our blog there 04:24:35 +1 04:24:40 +1 04:25:03 Good, other thoughts? Remembers bckurera... 04:25:17 BTW, if you want to look into it now, may you check ambassador maillist last week as I sent it already 04:25:32 Sounds good Haowei 04:25:35 then can i start 04:25:40 bckurera, and you 04:25:43 sorry,bckurera 04:25:45 this is about my proposal 04:25:52 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/Fedora_APAC_Magazine/ 04:26:03 I hope you all checked the wiki ;) 04:26:29 bckurera, has the mailing list seen your URL? 04:26:29 bckurera,have noted it 04:26:43 I would like to get your all ideas 04:26:44 +1 04:26:50 +1 04:26:52 Haowei, if you have any help regarding these thing free to ask anytime or drop mail to anyone from APAC pls avoid to ask others during irc from private chat because they all busy and not beyond APAC 04:26:57 yes dramsey i mailed all APAC FAm too 04:27:14 bckurera, pick contents from the planet related to reviews of a release? 04:27:17 suresht, yep, I will 04:27:38 feature highlights :D 04:27:54 so what you all think 04:27:57 and how to use new features :D 04:28:02 Is it good to work on this? 04:28:05 the magazine? 04:28:21 Try and go for it 04:28:25 yeap 04:28:32 Sounds like an action what do you think? 04:28:42 if you all like this idea 04:28:46 will start workin on this 04:28:50 Haowei, you can ask tuanta,me or anyone from APAC during IRC ambassadors 04:29:02 ok,np 04:29:34 And I like for a team to go with the magazine 04:29:38 it is simple 04:29:48 dramsey, why not make a suggestion for different maillist by different region? 04:29:53 we have to extract info from blogs and prsent them thats all 04:29:53 Good stuff, bckurera other thoughts or action? 04:30:00 we are nt gng to write new things 04:30:06 bckurera, +1 that really good idea to express from APAC 04:30:14 Good question Haowei... 04:30:29 WHich region, Haowei? 04:30:39 dramsey, if we could do that, our mailist could be effective and efficiant 04:30:55 #action Initiate magazine for APAC activities - bckurera 04:31:03 Propose to FAmSCo and others and see what happens, Haowei... 04:31:05 I don't think so, Haowei 04:31:22 tuanta, personal idea 04:31:25 And we need a anem for the mag too :) 04:31:27 * KageSenshi wonder why not Fedora Magazine .. it'll be english language anyway .. 04:31:31 There is a india list...china list...france list...other lists which I do not know... 04:31:33 all ideas should be share world-wide 04:31:45 I got a lot of comments from all over the world 04:31:53 +1 KageSenshi 04:32:01 it should be much much useful for me 04:32:09 * Haowei is thinking why not get any comment 04:32:41 ,me knows little bit mala lang lol 04:32:54 :) 04:32:56 okay so if you have any name idea 04:33:02 * suresht ,me knows little bit mala lang lol 04:33:04 please note it on the wiki 04:33:20 KageSenshi, ^_^ 04:33:24 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/Fedora_APAC_Magazine/#Name_-_Suggesions 04:33:33 suresht, u mean 'malay'? :) 04:33:37 and I am looking forward for a team also 04:33:52 KageSenshi, err/malay 04:33:58 we can work together and spread APAC in the community and as well as aroudn it 04:34:01 dramsey, another thing I should report here 04:34:03 Is on the wiki, bckurera? May be ask on the list, too. 04:34:15 yes I ll put a mail too 04:34:20 Good thoughts 04:34:33 Anything else bckurera? 04:34:35 Haowei, what is up? 04:34:36 first I brough to APAC meeting, if you all like the idea then we can go out of the list right 04:34:37 +1 bckurera dramsey 04:34:48 Yes, try the list. 04:35:08 I am talking with mchua and Ryan, I am going to open campus ambassador in our CHina as there are thounds of yound guys focusing on fedora 04:35:34 it is waiting for futher next step 04:35:35 it would be great Hoawei 04:35:41 Haowei, have you tried the fedora-zh ? 04:35:54 dramsey, let me finish 04:35:54 Understood Haowei, other thoughts? 04:36:38 after I talked about this idea to Ryan, I have did a roll on our Chinese twitter of our Fedora China, just in two days, I have got more than 30 request to join 04:37:03 great 04:37:10 so I am somehow confident if we open it, there could be some new guys for campus ambassador in China 04:37:11 nice Haowei 04:37:29 yes you can make a plan and go for it Haowei 04:37:41 bckurera, it is in process 04:38:05 may dramsey could note this 04:38:09 Haowei better creat a wiki page and then inform others on the list 04:38:30 +1 bckurera 04:38:37 great work from APAC FAms 04:38:48 bckurera, I would like to do that when I got comfimation form Ryan as he is leader of campus ambassador 04:38:49 Haowei, i saw that but chiness lanq so unable to understand,you have done something great work 04:38:59 Haowei, have you tried the fedora-zh ? 04:39:06 dramsey,yep 04:39:09 Do you want to make #info #idea #action? 04:39:28 our Chinese twitter of Fedora China is so active since I just set it up one week 04:39:33 #info 04:40:23 suresht,actually, Chinese lang is simple 04:40:39 not so much difficult 04:40:47 :) 04:40:59 not the characters i think :) 04:41:09 KageSenshi,yep 04:41:27 just multi-meaning of one Chinese character 04:41:53 :) 04:41:59 kaio is coming 04:42:01 nice nice 04:42:15 hi kaio_tab ~! 04:42:16 welcome, kaio 04:42:30 Haowei hi 04:42:47 hey,looking for you 04:43:04 Kaio, we are at APAC Plans. 04:43:13 Other thoughts, Haowei? 04:43:15 I am at restaurant. 04:43:30 _tab = tablet ? 04:43:33 dramsey,have reported everything what I will and what I need 04:43:35 great kaio_tab :) 04:43:58 Haowei, do you want to create the #info ... data? 04:44:00 Haowei, really you are doing good work because of china has major population so you may spread fedora to many people 04:44:05 any news from FAmSCo, kaio? 04:44:15 kaio_tab, hi 04:44:21 dramsey,none 04:44:33 kage, he's on samsung galaxy tab :) 04:44:50 azneita, ah ok :) 04:44:51 The news is haowei is returned. 04:44:58 dramsey, maybe you could arrange that? 04:45:03 badger him anytime :D 04:45:21 #chair kaio_tab 04:45:21 Current chairs: Haowei KageSenshi Oleg_ azneita bckurera dramsey kaio_tab suresht tuanta 04:45:38 bckurera, how about "Ambassador Wear" 04:45:41 ? 04:45:47 Getting haowei to be mentor. 04:46:29 kaio_tab, that's good news 04:46:35 Once he becomes mentor the speed of fedora dev in china will be picked up. 04:47:37 #info Fedora Chinese twitter had been set up and keep active. Will need help for Fedora swag 04:47:44 +1 Haowei. 04:47:47 Kaio, there is discussion for our future Fedora 15 needs... 04:48:05 Some want to do local media DVD creation... 04:48:32 +1 dramsey. I think all of us here will do or doing it 04:48:40 I support. :) 04:48:51 Other thoughts Kaio from FAmSCo? 04:48:52 sorry got away 04:49:05 hello kaio 04:49:08 Though except anz as we have high living costs. 04:50:03 Understood, other thoughts? 04:50:16 +1 Haowei 04:50:31 kaio we are discussing on producing media locally 04:50:35 F15 media 04:50:46 otherwise paying tax is no point 04:51:00 is there any idea of FAmSCo regarding that issue? 04:51:11 * Haowei will be back in one minute 04:52:02 kaio_tab? 04:52:43 Okay, hang in there everyone... 04:52:56 How about any recap for the APAC Plans? 04:53:07 (1:52:43 PM) dramsey: Okay, hang in there everyone... 04:53:26 whats up? 04:53:27 how about Ambassador Wear, bckurera? 04:53:34 yup 04:53:35 bckurera any news on Ambassador Wear or APAC Committee? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-plan 04:53:44 i m getting them this week 04:53:49 then need to ship them :) 04:53:59 +1 bckurera 04:54:01 cool 04:54:06 tuanta, I would like to get or one or two 04:54:07 you all can wear them for release parties 04:54:20 +1 bckurera 04:54:25 I think we need to go for another production soon :) 04:54:28 +1 bckurera 04:54:30 will let you know 04:54:35 and APAC planing 04:54:42 i need your all idea 04:54:51 and need to make it more active 04:54:52 Haowei, you should place order to bckurera :) 04:55:09 bckurera, not sure where your located 04:55:31 Sri Lanka haowei 04:55:43 ok,got 04:56:01 so APAC planing? 04:56:08 any idea? 04:56:30 ping kaio_tab? U there 04:56:55 Anything else for APAC Plans? May be move forward if not. 04:57:00 next~ 04:57:02 We could recap with Kaio upon his return. 04:57:05 +1 04:57:13 #topic APAC Library 04:57:14 ok thats good 04:57:21 This is asmartgoat's topic, so duly noted. 04:57:26 Other thoughts or next topic? 04:57:39 move on? 04:57:41 #topic Classrooms for APAC 04:57:59 FranciscoD's idea 04:57:59 FranciscoD 04:58:13 so other thoughts or next topic? 04:58:21 next :P 04:58:22 next -> 04:58:24 #topic Red Hat Exams for Ambassadors 04:58:31 nice topic 04:58:32 Need input from FAmSCo. 04:58:36 No other news. 04:58:37 here dramsey's idea 04:58:38 Next topic? 04:58:43 next ~ :P 04:58:43 next -> 04:58:46 #topic Open Floor 04:58:46 +1 04:58:46 dramsey, im here with you 04:58:59 kagesenshi updates 04:58:59 Any Ideas that you have in your mind? 04:59:04 ey 04:59:08 fudcon~! 04:59:14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FUDConAPACDraft 04:59:18 ohh dramsey we are nt talking abt FUDCon??? 04:59:22 KageSenshi, wow 04:59:27 Need input from others on FUDCon here... 04:59:39 i've met up with the guys 04:59:42 respect to malaysian FAms 04:59:43 got an initial team 04:59:44 #topic FUDcon APAC Committee 04:59:52 KageSenshi, great work we ill give our efforts 04:59:57 I will be living in 10 minutes... 05:00:07 :) 05:00:08 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FUDConAPACDraft 05:00:09 bckurera, only 2 of the people related to that draft are ambassadors, the rest are local communities :) 05:00:26 much cooler 05:00:28 nice work anyway 05:00:37 bckurera and KageSenshi, do you have input from the mailing list or others? 05:00:38 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/FUDConAPACDraft 05:00:48 i m empty 05:00:56 i wonder how much we can get for the sponsorship ? 05:01:09 anyway KageSenshi 05:01:15 will work towards it 05:01:24 and if u need help I m always there 05:01:28 bckurera, ok :) 05:01:37 one more question 05:01:37 it will proabably depend on how much it will need 05:01:44 any APAC mentor here? 05:01:47 will makw the first FUDcon a grand 05:01:49 +1 azneita 05:01:52 is 120 cut off point good ? 05:02:03 120USD? 05:02:06 i mean 05:02:08 no visitors 05:02:10 120 attendees 05:02:16 i think it is good we can go for 200 05:02:21 fudcons are open to everyone 05:02:32 200 is nt a huge amount 05:02:39 rephrase 120 swag cut off point 05:02:41 but have to consider the place and its capacity 05:02:42 bckurera, +1 05:02:43 I definitely believe we need to have Harish as well as Kaio/Gbraad input 05:02:50 +1 dramsey 05:02:51 yes 05:02:52 hmm how about pre-registering 05:03:01 This is action what do you all think? 05:03:04 present this idea to FAmSCo 05:03:06 about months before 05:03:13 We need a deadline, too. 05:03:23 will make the event page nicer 05:03:26 +1 Everyone!!! 05:03:28 within this month we'll be gathering info from potential venues 05:03:31 +1 05:03:35 you can have FAm s help 05:03:44 like Design and other stuffs 05:03:46 i'm trying to find those which we can get for free , with extra stuff :P 05:03:58 bckurera, yeah .. artwork team designs rocks :D 05:04:27 you also can find local sponsorships and file a ticket with Fedora too 05:04:36 we can get some fund from them too 05:04:45 ah 05:04:47 ok :D 05:04:52 besides media and swags 05:04:53 Get your proposal out there and use the information from other SUCCESSFUL FUDcons to your advantage... 05:05:05 btw .. how should i proceed on the bidding ? 05:05:06 KageSenshi, I think you should attend EMEA or NA FUDCon to learn more 05:05:10 any proposa time? 05:05:21 post to fudcon-planning? 05:05:35 tentative date that we have in mind is sometime on june/july next year 05:05:42 near PyCON APAC dates 05:05:52 ohhh next year 05:05:54 +1 KageSenshi 05:06:02 yes, bckurera 05:06:02 there is a one year right 05:06:03 getting excited :) 05:06:05 considering many fedorans are python anyway 05:06:08 we can do it! 05:06:11 :) 05:06:14 *pythonistas 05:06:15 I support you. 05:06:27 cant we take it January 2012 05:06:40 coz I cant wait another year for the first FUDcon 05:06:41 :D 05:06:42 FUDCon in OLIN is then... 05:06:59 bckurera, according to fudcon organization process wikipage, need 1 year from bidding date 05:07:13 though right now i'm quite unclear on how to start the bidding process 05:07:18 ohh not aware of that sorry :) 05:07:36 any link for the wiki? 05:07:46 bckurera, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_organization_process 05:08:01 thanks in advanced 05:08:03 bckurera, http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_bid_process 05:08:21 KageSenshi, if you need shall speak to MooDoo and Southern_Gentlem about it? 05:08:58 suresht, erm ? 05:09:11 i think 120 is very small 05:09:19 it is good we can increase the number 05:09:23 what others think? 05:09:40 Plan your proposal and review other FUDcons for attendance ideas... 05:09:45 Makes budget. 05:09:51 not sure .. 120 seems realistic based on past FOSS events in malaysia 05:10:04 ahh then cool 05:10:45 great work so far keep up the momentum :D 05:10:51 though i'm not quite sure how that number will be distorted if its an APAC event, and its free 05:10:52 XD 05:11:16 hello folks 05:11:31 is there any wiki for FADs as well as FUDcons 05:11:33 ??? 05:11:45 what do you mean? 05:11:51 Review the FAD Brisbane as a start... 05:12:01 FUDcons is huge... 05:12:06 FAD is mini... 05:12:12 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events_FAD_2010 05:12:13 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Olin_2012 05:12:23 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon 05:12:29 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon 05:12:34 +1 Tuan!!! 05:12:43 nice list of past fudcons 05:13:02 yeah i reviewed the list, though not many stated how many were the attendees 05:13:13 this link should be useful: 05:13:16 #link http://wordshack.wordpress.com/2011/03/30/fudcon-north-america-bidding-time-is-closing-soon/ 05:13:34 will work for the fundcon as a team then 05:13:37 I think for our next meeting FUDcon APAC Committee should be in APAC plan agenda... 05:13:41 from robyn 05:13:50 we can use the mlist 05:13:54 +1 tuanta Tuan!!! 05:13:58 Yup, mailing list. 05:13:59 +1 bckurera 05:14:06 dramsey I proposed it last meeting 05:14:11 204 pre-registered for tempe 05:14:12 and I prepare a wiki too 05:14:18 anyidea about that? 05:14:23 Great bckurera! 05:14:29 Try... 05:14:34 Try... 05:14:35 Try... 05:14:35 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-plan 05:14:37 btw .. whats the highest approvable budget one can get for a fudcon ? 05:14:54 there is no such a limit but need to be realistic 05:14:56 and feasable 05:15:03 seeing tempe having 20k USD .. that sounds like a huuuggeee amount to me :P 05:15:15 i mean 05:15:15 20000? 05:15:19 Airflight is the eating animal... 05:15:22 http://fedora.reb00t.com/wiki/FUDCon:Zurich_2010_Budget 05:15:26 about $20,000 05:15:35 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Accounting 05:15:37 not tempe, zurich 05:16:01 Soon, I wiill be leaving guys, you are doing good. 05:16:13 dramsey we need to creat the plan and a committee 05:16:15 May be discussion items off-list and provided summary is best. 05:16:16 what u think 05:16:22 we need quick action? 05:16:22 20k usd malaysia is a really huge amount :) 05:16:26 dramsey, got it "time" 05:16:30 +1 bckurera...action/info/idea? 05:16:37 action 05:16:45 can u add it 05:16:47 +1 KageSenshi 05:16:53 will finalize off the list 05:16:53 KageSenshi, +1 05:16:56 the same in Vietnam :) 05:16:56 agree dramsey? 05:17:04 Airflights from Europe, North America and Australia to Malaysia will be high... 05:17:09 yeap 05:17:18 What action you want bckurera? 05:17:29 #chair bckurera 05:17:29 Current chairs: Haowei KageSenshi Oleg_ azneita bckurera dramsey kaio_tab suresht tuanta 05:17:37 lk to my almost 600 RM 05:17:45 APAC plan committee 05:17:48 dramsey? 05:18:05 currently our estimate for a 120 cutoffpoint .. assuming venue is free , without attendee sponsorship -> only around 4k USD 05:18:24 we can get more APAC FAm help 05:18:29 then the airfee get reduced 05:18:39 Please, bckurera, you have chair, you may do #action post 05:18:44 within SEA, theres AirAsia -> www.airasia.com 05:18:49 extra cheap :) 05:18:52 Go for it, bckurera 05:19:10 i got a contact in that airline company, who'se using fedora 05:19:20 probably good idea to buzz him :) 05:19:22 KageSenshi, +1 about airasia 05:19:39 #action Setup a working committee for APAC planing - bckurera , dramsey and all APAC FAm 05:19:41 really good flight 05:19:59 +1 KageSenshi 05:20:26 anyway, back to topic, my blocker right now is i'm not quite clear where to start in term of bidding 05:20:29 flying to KL 's even cheaper than to Ho Chi Minh city from here :) 05:21:05 tuanta +1 05:21:22 +1 bckurera 05:21:27 +1 KageSenshi 05:21:44 ok cool seems lot of ideas 05:21:45 We definitely need to get input from Harish and Kaio/Gbraad... 05:21:50 yeap 05:21:55 yes will keep updating them 05:21:56 +1 dramsey 05:21:58 i'll be at singapore mid of june 05:22:21 harish seems quite busy recently 05:22:42 harish had approved to give some financial support for event in China 05:23:01 still I am waiting for his final confirm 05:23:02 KageSenshi you need help 05:23:03 KageSenshi, just follow these instructions http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon_bid_process, I think 05:23:08 on fudcon I mean in planing? 05:23:20 seems it is good all great FAm get KIT with KageSenshi 05:23:29 bckurera, planning, at the moment i think i can handle it :) 05:23:34 and help him to come to decisions 05:23:37 We can do it. We must find way and support... 05:23:39 cools then KageSenshi 05:23:48 +1 KageSenshi. 05:23:59 though one thing for sure, once its approved, help on marketing across apac would be a good help 05:24:00 :) 05:24:04 Do we need to post any other #action, #idea, #info for this to help the reviewers of logs? 05:24:24 action needs KageSenshi?? 05:24:41 we should work closer to plan for FUDCon proposal. 05:24:47 is that an idea? 05:24:48 #halp how to start bidding process for FUDCon APAC 05:24:55 Yes!!! 05:25:15 I like those action and idea! 05:25:30 not only biweekly meeting, but also more and more meeting on IRC to make FUDCon APAC happen 05:25:46 #action we should work closer to plan for FUDCon proposal. 05:25:51 tuanta +1 05:25:52 create a channel ? 05:25:53 +1 tuanta 05:25:58 or should we discuss in #fedora-apac ? 05:26:04 +1 05:26:08 yes tuanta it is needed 05:26:15 a place where i can update u guys easily is nice :) 05:26:27 that is why i suggest a committe for the FUDcon then they can consentrate on that 05:26:27 #idea should use IRC channel #fedora-apac to discuss 05:26:30 mainly 05:26:33 +1 Tuan - tuanta 05:26:40 +1 05:26:43 KageSenshi what abt a facebook fanpage 05:26:49 like a closed group one 05:26:59 facebook sucks for discussion 05:26:59 it is much easier and organized 05:27:00 XD 05:27:03 If we need a separate IRC timeframe to meet then that is idea for you to think in order to coordinate. 05:27:30 i hope we keep things open 05:27:41 +1 azneita! 05:27:42 i'll be dumping data on wiki 05:27:47 what abt the wiki page 05:27:52 we should have a schedule for FUDCon planning meeting 05:28:01 +1 bckurera 05:28:09 we should have wiki page 05:28:18 you can update the wiki and when we all mark it watch 05:28:25 then we ll be getting updates 05:28:26 something like this: 05:28:28 #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Bid_for_Olin_2012 05:28:32 so Wiki page is the easiest 05:28:36 yes 05:28:44 anyideas? 05:28:45 then everyone can contribute 05:28:50 we are here 1.30 hrs now 05:28:51 ok i'll create /FUDCon:Bid_for_APAC_2012 05:28:57 shall we move on now? 05:28:57 FUDCon means ? 05:29:01 Yup... 05:29:05 about schedule for FUDCon planning meeting 05:29:13 Fedora User / Developer Conference... 05:29:14 Fedora User and Developer Conf 05:29:23 thanks 05:29:25 nice dramsey :) 05:29:34 I think we should meet twice per week, at least 05:29:40 next topic? 05:29:40 my next physical meeting with the guys will be end of next month 05:29:50 yes meeting wont go more than 30 mins i think 05:29:50 tuanta, +1 05:29:55 +1 KageSenshi 05:29:57 giving time for them to gather info on venues 05:30:08 as some are way down south from KL :) 05:30:36 trying to see what the best place we can get 05:31:34 ok update us 05:31:37 ok 05:31:39 as soon u have a info 05:31:46 roger that 05:31:49 mailing list thread would also be fine 05:32:05 ambassadors-list ? 05:32:12 or fudcon-planning ? 05:32:36 at first, wiki and IRC ae enough, I think 05:32:43 yep 05:32:45 s/ae/are 05:32:58 ok it is nice 05:33:07 once the stuff relates to attendee sponsorship, thats the part that we'll need everyone to be around :) 05:33:07 then lets get them in working :) 05:33:19 Other thoughts? 05:33:20 then when we have the first draft of FUDCon proposal, we should put into the mailing list 05:33:29 great 05:33:34 first a venue and date 05:33:41 venue related stuff is kindof too physical for y'all to help out i think .. 05:33:42 those are the most critical in planing 05:33:49 yes sure 05:34:00 Make a deadline to perform to. 05:34:05 buit you have to be serious abt that :) 05:34:11 bckurera, yeah :) 05:34:18 yes dealine would make good 05:34:29 DDL 05:34:41 how about two weeks frm today 05:34:49 dramsey, how about june 4 ? 05:34:50 err 05:34:56 then in the next APAC meeting we can fix the date? 05:34:58 Yup, KageSenshi 05:35:04 Other thoughts... 05:35:18 Open Floor and close now? 05:35:42 seems enough 05:35:46 :) 05:35:48 dramsey, yes 05:35:52 #topic Open Floor 05:35:58 Thank you all for attending today. 05:36:02 Other thoughts. 05:36:11 thanks all 05:36:20 Next meeting on May ? 05:36:20 great to all :) 05:36:22 see you all 05:36:27 see you all 05:36:29 i think today meeting is a blast :) 05:36:34 great thoughts and ideas 05:36:37 Great to have you all here. 05:36:39 NOW will work for that 05:36:42 first week??? 05:36:48 thanks for attending and sharing 05:36:50 Post on the Mailing List and drum up support for your FUDCon. 05:36:55 The power is yours... 05:36:57 You can do it! 05:37:05 will all support FUDcon and make it happen 05:37:14 Suresht, i try for 7th and 21st...\ 05:37:16 Respect to all organizers and specially to KageSenshi 05:37:21 +1 05:37:25 Close? 05:37:26 +1 05:37:31 yes 05:37:32 +1 05:37:33 5 05:37:35 4 05:37:37 3 05:37:39 2 05:37:40 1 05:37:42 0.5 05:37:45 thanks for all have a nice day 05:37:45 Thank you all for attending! 05:37:48 world plone day celebration is happening here at my office on 2pm .. XD 05:37:50 :) 05:37:52 -away- for now 05:37:53 0 05:37:56 #endmeeting