19:00:17 <gholms|work> #startmeeting Cloud SIG (22 Apr 2011) 19:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Fri Apr 22 19:00:17 2011 UTC. The chair is gholms|work. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 19:00:17 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 19:00:24 <gholms|work> #meetingname cloud_sig 19:00:24 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'cloud_sig' 19:00:31 <gholms|work> #chair jforbes_ rbergeron 19:00:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: gholms|work jforbes_ rbergeron 19:00:37 <gholms|work> #topic Init process 19:00:44 <gholms|work> Who's here today? 19:01:19 <mgoldmann> me, me 19:01:29 <msavy> me too :) 19:02:16 * gholms|work looks for more people 19:02:50 * mgoldmann sees obino hiding behind the chair 19:03:21 <gholms|work> Alrighty 19:03:25 <gholms|work> #topic EC2 19:03:41 <gholms|work> I'll be doing this all from memory, so if I forget something feel free to let me know. ;) 19:03:47 <gholms|work> Anything new on the EC2 front? 19:03:52 <obino> hehe I guess I'm not hiding very well 19:04:15 <mgoldmann> gholms|work: yes, huge outages on their site :) 19:04:24 <gholms|work> Heh 19:04:30 <gholms|work> Anything new on *Fedora's* EC2 front? :P 19:05:24 <gholms|work> Hm, I guess not. 19:05:52 <gholms|work> #topic CloudFS 19:06:40 <gholms|work> jdarcy and kkeithley don't seem to be around. :( 19:07:12 <gholms|work> #topic Aeolus 19:07:50 <gholms|work> This is turning out to be a short meeting. 19:08:02 <msavy> 'tis rather 19:08:07 * gholms|work looks for mmorsi and clalance 19:08:33 <gholms|work> Alrighty 19:08:37 <gholms|work> #topic BoxGrinder 19:08:42 <mgoldmann> yay! 19:08:48 <gholms|work> We have someone here for that! 19:08:53 <mgoldmann> so, let's begin :) 19:09:09 <mgoldmann> recently I added new clouds support for BoxGrinder 19:09:28 <mgoldmann> and this is: elastichosts, serverlove, open hosting and skali cloud 19:09:39 <mgoldmann> more to read about it: http://boxgrinder.org/blog/2011/04/19/support-for-new-clouds-is-coming/ 19:10:08 <mgoldmann> I'm working on cloudsigma support now 19:10:19 <mgoldmann> it should be checked in before 0.9.1 19:10:29 <gholms|work> #info Next BoxGrinder release to support more clouds 19:10:48 <mgoldmann> and yes, we're working on releasing 0.9.1 after finally rubygem-kwalify was added to Fedora 19:10:55 <mgoldmann> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=692466 19:11:14 <msavy> much nicer error parsing, validation and messages et 19:11:15 <mgoldmann> this our new parser for yaml files which tells you exactly where something is wrong in your definition 19:11:17 <gholms|work> What a strange name for a YAML parser. 19:11:30 <msavy> everything from that company has a "k" at the start of the name 19:11:37 <mgoldmann> yep 19:11:54 <gholms|work> I'd have still expected it to have "yaml" in there somewhere. 19:11:56 * gholms|work shrugs 19:11:57 <mgoldmann> we're now preparing the release tbh 19:12:04 <msavy> it does JSON too! 19:12:14 <gholms|work> Valid JSON *is* valid YAML. 19:12:18 <mgoldmann> so, expect new release in the next week 19:12:20 <msavy> true 19:12:30 <mgoldmann> yes somewhere in the middle of holidays 19:12:52 <msavy> and shortly our test day will all be ready 19:13:10 <mgoldmann> so, yes, there is also test day 19:13:19 <mgoldmann> gholms|work: do we want to have a new topic? 19:13:31 <gholms|work> #topic Cloud test day 19:13:46 <mgoldmann> alrighty 19:13:49 <gholms|work> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-04-28_Cloud_SIG 19:13:51 <mgoldmann> so, there is a page for that 19:13:56 <mgoldmann> this one 19:14:06 <mgoldmann> it's basically the template, so feel free to adjust it 19:14:10 <gholms|work> #info Cloud test day is this Thursday 19:14:12 <mgoldmann> msavy: go ahead 19:14:47 <msavy> https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Test_Day:2011-04-28_BoxGrinder_Build 19:14:57 <msavy> we're going to relocate it shortly however (we'll add a redirect) 19:15:19 <gholms|work> #help Cloud SIG Test Day wiki page needs lots of work 19:15:34 <mgoldmann> final destination will be: https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Test_Day:2011-04-28_Cloud_SIG_BoxGrinder_Build 19:15:39 <gholms|work> Heeey, real test cases! Nice! 19:15:42 <msavy> so i've finished most of the test cases 19:15:47 <msavy> :D 19:16:06 <msavy> then i'm going to use BG to make some virtual images (appliances) for testers 19:16:17 <msavy> as we hope to have some bare-metal testers and some virtual ones too 19:16:21 <mgoldmann> we'll provide also F15 appliances ready to test (with BG installed and so on) if we have time 19:16:40 <msavy> ^___ thats what I mean 19:16:45 <mgoldmann> yep 19:17:19 <msavy> I think it is dog fooding to use BG to make images to test BG :D 19:17:36 <msavy> what needs doing for the rest of the Cloud SIG page? 19:17:38 <gholms|work> Pretty much 19:18:05 <mgoldmann> Basically it would be good to create a subpage for EC2 tests 19:18:14 <mgoldmann> and just link BG and EC2 from main page 19:19:04 <gholms|work> The top-level page basically needs rewriting because it's morely template text. 19:19:06 <gholms|work> *mostly 19:19:17 <gholms|work> Referring to live images, etc. 19:19:25 <mgoldmann> yep, I think we could remove 80% of this text NOW 19:19:50 <msavy> agreed, this can just be a linking page. 19:20:32 <gholms|work> So, time for the big question: 19:20:45 <gholms|work> Who's going to update the top-level wiki page? 19:21:11 <mgoldmann> I can do it, not a big deal 19:21:22 <msavy> well i know plenty about BG but not much about the other projects 19:21:27 <msavy> in that case i'll just edit it 19:21:40 <mgoldmann> hm? 19:22:07 <gholms|work> #action mgoldmann to work on the top-level Cloud SIG Test Day wiki page 19:22:13 <msavy> As in copy-editing mgoldmann 19:22:16 <gholms|work> Thanks 19:22:35 <msavy> If you want ofc 19:23:10 <gholms|work> Anyone here know enough about the EC2 stuff to do a EC2 test image page? 19:23:28 <mgoldmann> I think only jforbes_ 19:23:50 <mgoldmann> nobody besides him is involved in this I think 19:24:11 <gholms|work> :( 19:25:04 <gholms|work> Well, not much we can do about that. 19:25:44 <gholms|work> Who all is going to help with the test day? :) 19:26:11 <mgoldmann> I'll be there 19:26:28 <msavy> i'll be there to help mgoldmann and so on 19:26:34 <mgoldmann> There will be also rwjones from libguestfs project if there are some libguestfs issues 19:28:19 <gholms|work> Alrighty. Anything else test day-related? 19:28:46 <msavy> One small thing: There is a nice template for Bugzilla tickets in the wiki {{bz|1234}} or using inter-wiki links [[rhbug:123123]]. However there is no such equivalent for JIRA that I'm aware of, and I don't believe I have permissions to create one. Would be a nice convenience for testers/volunteers if there was. 19:28:59 <mgoldmann> removed the unecessary text: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2011-04-28_Cloud_SIG 19:29:20 <mgoldmann> msavy: bugs should be reported to bugzilla 19:29:39 <msavy> ah really, i thought we were going to pipe them through JIRA 19:29:43 <msavy> my mistake, i'll change that 19:29:44 <mgoldmann> (or directly upstream) 19:29:56 <gholms|work> Directly upstream *is* jira, isn't it? 19:30:01 <mgoldmann> this doesn;t matter really, but for fedora folks bugzilla is ok 19:30:04 <msavy> I meant BGBUILD bugs? 19:30:06 <mgoldmann> gholms|work: yes 19:30:13 <mgoldmann> hm 19:30:20 <msavy> on our test page, specifically 19:30:22 <gholms|work> If you report it directly upstream I would just use an external link. 19:30:31 <mgoldmann> yep 19:30:45 <gholms|work> If it's anything that could possibly block the release (e.g. on the EC2 image) it should go in bz, though. 19:31:05 <mgoldmann> yep 19:31:20 <msavy> yep, i was referring to BG specific issues that we assign jira tickets to 19:31:33 <msavy> cheers 19:32:15 <gholms|work> #topic Open floor 19:32:24 <gholms|work> Any more questions? Comments? Tacos? 19:33:34 <msavy> not from me, thanks 19:34:02 * gholms|work will close in 30 seconds 19:34:31 <gholms|work> Thanks for coming, everyone! 19:34:34 <gholms|work> #endmeeting