23:00:31 <zoglesby> #startmeeting Fedora Docs Project - Agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
23:00:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 20 23:00:31 2011 UTC.  The chair is zoglesby. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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23:00:36 <zoglesby> #topic roll call
23:00:51 * jjmcd 
23:01:29 * jhradilek is here.
23:02:26 <zoglesby> #topic Follow up on last week's action items
23:02:36 <zoglesby> + zoglesby jjmcd look into creating categories in gnome3 menu
23:02:48 <zoglesby> I did not do anything with this, jjmcd you?
23:02:50 <jjmcd> no progress there
23:02:58 <zoglesby> okay
23:03:09 <zoglesby> + Send Project Wide-Final Release Notes Deadlines - April 14th
23:03:35 <jjmcd> no, that was due ages ago, too
23:04:13 <zoglesby> April 14th is what I have
23:04:24 <zoglesby> + Build and Post Beta release-notes to docs.fedoraproject.org - April 18th
23:04:41 <zoglesby> I did that yesterday (ie not on the 18th)
23:04:46 <jjmcd> OK, you did that - Thanks Zach
23:04:55 <zoglesby> + Build and Post Fedora Technical Notes to docs.fedoraproject.org - April 18th
23:05:04 <jjmcd> I did get an update rpm pushed
23:05:25 <jjmcd> because after the one on the compose was final, we learned of a number of changes
23:05:25 <zoglesby> I am going to look into that error tonight
23:05:31 <jjmcd> Weird
23:06:48 <zoglesby> #topic Fedora 15 Schedule
23:07:24 <zoglesby> We have a few items coming up on the 25th and after this week I think lots of eyes are on us
23:07:48 <zoglesby> #action Notify announce-list and f-devel-list revised draft guides available
23:07:55 <zoglesby> #action Republish draft guides for Beta
23:07:58 <jjmcd> Our main push here is getting stuff to L10n.  I know nb and rudi made some headway, but I don't know how much
23:08:33 <jjmcd> zoglesby, I am pushing updates nightly, but I think Nick and Rudi are also, somewhere else
23:08:43 <jjmcd> So we need to find out where they are at
23:08:46 <nb> oh
23:08:46 <zoglesby> I think they are still working on it
23:08:47 <nb> im here
23:08:54 <jjmcd> Ahhh
23:08:54 <nb> rudi_, ping
23:09:00 <zoglesby> I talked to rudi yesterday and be was working the issue
23:09:02 <nb> jjmcd, rudi is working on it i think?
23:09:03 <rudi_> oops -- pong!
23:09:05 <nb> its publictest1
23:09:28 <rudi_> Getting there -- Having some caching problems, but working on it as we speak
23:10:03 <rudi_> http://publictest01.fedoraproject.org/en-US/index.html
23:11:20 <zoglesby> rudi_: thats wonderful! Let us know if you need any help
23:11:44 <rudi_> ta!
23:12:27 <zoglesby> anyone want to take a stab on how far behind we are because of all this?
23:13:36 <jjmcd> Well, I think L10n really knows
23:13:48 <jjmcd> We are probably two weeks late in getting them POTs
23:14:15 <zoglesby> okay, I need to get up with thm
23:14:51 <zoglesby> #action zoglesby contact L10n about schedule
23:15:28 <zoglesby> #topic Release Notes
23:15:32 <zoglesby> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule
23:15:56 <zoglesby> jjmcd: the floor is yours
23:16:10 <jjmcd> Unfortunately, that schedule doesn't reflect the second slip
23:16:21 <jjmcd> But really
23:16:27 <nb> rudi_, are your drafts using the mapped lang codes?
23:16:30 <rbergeron> what?
23:16:31 <nb> or using the xx_YY ones?
23:16:42 <rudi_> We have to use the xx-YY codes
23:16:42 <jjmcd> Our job now is mostly to keep providing drafts to L10n
23:16:59 <nb> rudi_, we can use the xx ones in transifex
23:17:08 <nb> rudi_, i'll get you the link to the new tx client after the meeting
23:17:11 <rbergeron> jjmcd: am i missing something here that i should have done? :)
23:17:17 <jjmcd> rbergeron, no
23:17:19 <nb> rudi_, and it'll pull them into xx-YY in the filesystem
23:17:21 <rudi_> Yes, so as long as the xx codes in Transifex map to the xx-ZZ codes in the source repos, we're good
23:17:23 <jjmcd> Something I should have done
23:18:05 <zoglesby> rbergeron: you are prefect, we are far from it
23:18:20 <jjmcd> exactly
23:19:41 <jjmcd> The only uh-oh hanging out there is building the GA RPM, and since zoglesby is now experienced we are covered in case I'm gone when we need it
23:19:43 <nb> rudi_, I just added you as an admin to the fedora project on transifex
23:19:50 <rudi_> thanks
23:20:00 <nb> rudi_, might you be able to add the release notes resources to the fedora-15-docs collection/release/whatever its called?
23:20:09 <nb> i have to get ready to go to church
23:20:22 <rudi_> Yep; I'll take care of it
23:20:30 <nb> rudi_, great, thank you very much
23:20:37 <rudi_> NP :)
23:21:48 <jjmcd> rbergeron, I see one minor detail we may have missed
23:22:26 <rbergeron> yes?
23:22:28 <jjmcd> I can't make a Fedora Technical Notes for beta until a day after beta is released.  I must have been smoking something when we planned it the day before
23:22:43 <jjmcd> Afffects 16, can't do anything about 15
23:22:52 * rbergeron nods
23:23:07 <rbergeron> i'll put a comment in my taskjuggler file though
23:23:15 <jjmcd> thanks
23:23:40 <rbergeron> so one day *after* beta is released?
23:23:45 <jjmcd> Correct
23:23:55 <zoglesby> sorry, I just got disconnected
23:24:00 <jjmcd> I need the beta repo to make it
23:24:12 <rbergeron> is it a one-day task?
23:24:21 <jjmcd> Its a push, but yeah
23:24:49 <jjmcd> Kind of a grunty thing, but largely automated
23:25:03 <rbergeron> okay. noted ;)
23:25:30 <zoglesby> jjmcd: anything more on the release notes
23:25:36 <jjmcd> nope
23:25:49 <rbergeron> I'll be making F16 schedule next weekish, so I'll be sending it back your folks' way for eyeballing once I have a draft out.
23:26:14 <jjmcd> no rest for the wicked
23:26:18 <zoglesby> lol
23:26:31 <zoglesby> rbergeron: we may all be fired before then :(
23:26:35 <zoglesby> #topic Guide Status
23:27:30 <zoglesby> My big ticket issue is the lack of movment recently so I need to get in contact with doc owners to check on each doc
23:27:56 <zoglesby> it really seems like everyone has dropped off the face of the earth this release
23:28:03 <jjmcd> It does
23:28:23 <zoglesby> #action zoglesby to contact doc owners to check on status
23:28:23 * jhradilek feels guilty.
23:28:23 <jjmcd> I'm hoping next release I won't be digging a groove between here and Lansing
23:28:51 <zoglesby> jjmcd: its not a big deal for one person, but it seems like most everyone is gone
23:28:53 <rudi_> Yeah; I think our offerings on GA day are going to be pretty slim
23:29:01 * bethlynn is guilty
23:29:32 <rudi_> Nobody needs to feel guilty or anything; these kinds of things happen from time-to-time in community projects
23:29:51 <rudi_> But we do need to marshall our resources and try to get some up-to-date statuses
23:29:51 <zoglesby> rudi_: indeed!
23:30:10 <rudi_> I'm technically on holidays next week, so I will have cycles to put into that
23:30:15 <zoglesby> rudi_: +++
23:30:23 <rudi_> (convergence of three public holidays here in Oz!)
23:30:30 <zoglesby> (not to the making you work your holiday)
23:30:37 <rudi_> lolz! :D
23:30:59 <rudi_> I'm not just here for RH :)
23:31:15 <zoglesby> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
23:31:22 <zoglesby> anyone have anything here?
23:32:12 <zoglesby> I sent a ticket to publican about epub building errors, that rudi quickly gave me a solution for
23:32:50 <zoglesby> if anyone runs into issues before the fix is pushed I will make sure to add the info to the ticket
23:33:04 <zoglesby> (if that has not been done already)
23:33:49 <zoglesby> #topic Open floor discussion
23:34:10 <zoglesby> Any other topics? Questions? Issues?
23:36:33 <zoglesby> Okay, thanks for coming
23:36:40 <zoglesby> #endmeeting