19:00:01 <CodeBlock> #startmeeting
19:00:01 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Apr  7 19:00:01 2011 UTC.  The chair is CodeBlock. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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19:00:07 <abadger1999> hola
19:00:10 <CodeBlock> #meetingname Infrastructure
19:00:10 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'infrastructure'
19:00:17 <smooge> waits for Role call
19:00:23 <CodeBlock> #topic Roll Call
19:00:46 <CodeBlock> Bah I should have done #startmeeting Infrastructure... oh well.
19:00:54 <cyberbyte> here
19:00:56 * lmacken 
19:01:27 <CodeBlock> well then, this is going to be a quick meeting, it looks like. ;D
19:01:42 <smooge> here
19:01:46 <CodeBlock> #topic New Folks/Introductions/Greetings/hello worlds
19:01:47 <jpattonwx> hello
19:01:54 <fchiulli> here
19:01:57 <smooge> CodeBlock, add chairs in case you drop off
19:02:01 * kital_ can not attend today sorry
19:02:14 <CodeBlock> #chair smooge lmacken
19:02:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: CodeBlock lmacken smooge
19:02:22 * mwillsh is observing
19:02:48 <CodeBlock> See a bunch of new guys here so.. feel free to say hi/introduce yourselves :)
19:02:50 <kital_> ups wrong meeting sorry
19:02:58 <jpattonwx> hi, I'm Jason :]
19:03:13 <jpattonwx> I *just* sent an email to the list so that should be showing up
19:03:21 <wyoung> Hi, I'm will. Just observing.
19:03:55 <CodeBlock> Alrighty, any particular areas of the Infrastructure you guys were interested in learning/helping out in?
19:04:28 <jpattonwx> maybe noc, at least to begin with
19:04:30 <wyoung> I've got no clue as of yet, but I'd like to eventually help out.
19:04:50 <CodeBlock> wyoung: Alright :)
19:05:02 <jpattonwx> I don't really have any experience with monitoring, but want to see how it's done
19:05:03 <ranjibd> hi there, this is ranjib
19:05:11 <CodeBlock> Well, welcome aboard everyone :)
19:05:22 <wyoung> :) Thanks
19:05:27 <jpattonwx> thanks :]
19:05:31 <cyberbyte> I'm going to keep checking tickets to see if I can help out at some point.. :-)
19:05:45 <mwillsh> I'm a sysadmin of some 12 odd years, RHCE recently and considering pursuing RHCA. I'd like to give something back to the projects that I've benefitted so much from. In what way I'm still reading :)
19:06:08 <CodeBlock> mwillsh: very cool :)
19:07:02 <wyoung> I've got experience with C/C++ (self taught) and web serving, making websites
19:07:11 <CodeBlock> Alrighty, let's move on -- if you guys need any help getting started, feel free to poke any of us in #fedora-admin or on the mailing lists, etc.
19:07:12 <wyoung> and scripting
19:07:17 <mwillsh> Oh, and I'm also happy to mentor
19:07:40 <jpattonwx> mwillsh: I might take you up on that, but we can discuss later :]
19:07:50 <CodeBlock> :)
19:07:54 <ranjibd> i am  a sysad, 2 years experience, comfortable with chef/puppet and prgramming in general
19:08:24 <CodeBlock> ranjibd: We use puppet, as you might have seen on the wiki :)
19:08:33 <CodeBlock> (or in the other infra channels)
19:08:47 <mwillsh> np jpattonwx but lets see if my will and freetime is as strong as my intention first ;)
19:09:19 <CodeBlock> Alrighty, well welcome aboard all, neat to see some new faces :)
19:09:22 <jpattonwx> sounds good
19:09:34 <smooge> thanks guys
19:09:39 <CodeBlock> Let's move on to
19:09:46 <CodeBlock> #topic Beta Freeze
19:10:37 <CodeBlock> So we're currently frozen, as per #fedora-admin 's topic... As I recall it lasts until one day after 15 beta is released.
19:11:42 <CodeBlock> So, as a reminder get two +1's from a -mainer before changing anything that is frozen....and I'm trying to find that list.
19:12:34 <CodeBlock> Ah well, I can't find it right now.
19:13:31 <CodeBlock> http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fedora-infrastructure.git;a=blob_plain;f=architecture/Environments.png;h=64af00311baa2ed78041dbe206a49b089ef9eaab;hb=HEAD
19:13:34 <CodeBlock> there we go
19:13:50 <CodeBlock> Everything in the pre-release section of that is frozen.
19:14:33 <CodeBlock> Any questions regarding the freeze?
19:15:15 <CodeBlock> ok
19:15:53 <CodeBlock> #topic Meeting Tickets
19:16:25 <CodeBlock> Not going to go over all the F15 beta tickets namely because I don't think the people to cover most of them are here today.
19:16:59 <CodeBlock> Will talk quickly on
19:17:07 <CodeBlock> .ticket 2275
19:17:09 <zodbot> CodeBlock: #2275 (Upgrade Nagios) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2275
19:17:21 <CodeBlock> and say what I think I said last week - that's been put on hold until post F15.
19:17:24 <CodeBlock> well
19:17:43 <CodeBlock> at least post F15 beta...depending on how much time is in between the two, possibly post F15.
19:18:17 <CodeBlock> A lot of these tickets...mmm
19:18:29 <CodeBlock> I'm just going to go to
19:18:33 <CodeBlock> #topic Open Floor
19:18:36 <smooge> oh wait
19:18:46 <CodeBlock> and make a mental note to clear out some of the old meeting tickets that are still tagged meeting
19:19:03 <CodeBlock> #topic smooge :)
19:19:12 * skvidal is here
19:19:14 <smooge> #topic Beta release
19:19:32 <smooge> I forgot to go over the tickets
19:19:39 <smooge> anyone from web here?
19:19:52 <smooge> .2704
19:20:03 <smooge> #2704
19:20:05 <CodeBlock> smooge: I was going to hold off on them for a week because hardly anyone that those concern is here.
19:20:08 <CodeBlock> .ticket 2704
19:20:09 <zodbot> CodeBlock: #2704 ([Fedora 15 Beta] New Website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2704
19:20:26 <smooge> we need to get an idea of how much disk space the new site is going to be.
19:21:00 <smooge> some of our proxy servers were built in the old days and may need to be rebuilt with larger disk space before someone hits the rsync button
19:21:37 <smooge> .ticket 2705
19:21:38 <zodbot> smooge: #2705 ([Fedora 15 Beta] Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2705
19:22:11 <smooge> we should be fine here. with F12 off the main site we have more space these days than we used to
19:22:39 <smooge> we need to ping mdomsch about .2708
19:23:21 <smooge> the 2704 is the only one we want to find out before next week.
19:23:42 <smooge> and you are right CodeBlock no one I need to tlak to is here :)
19:23:56 <smooge> #topic New Boss (not same as the old one)
19:24:25 <CodeBlock> smooge: ;)
19:24:49 <CodeBlock> smooge: i don't think nirik is around either.
19:24:51 <smooge> ok this week Red Hat hired kevin fenzi (nirik) to be the new infrastructure lead. He has been in training, got the company tattoo and tracking collar installed this week
19:25:18 <smooge> so next week he will be running the meeting and starting figuring out who I get to beat to stay in line.
19:25:35 <smooge> ah sijis
19:25:41 <smooge> you got a minute
19:25:46 <sijis> yup.
19:25:52 <sijis> i assume i'm in the middle of the meeting :)
19:25:54 <smooge> ok ticket 2704
19:26:11 <smooge> I assigned it to you but I realized I might not have the right fas account name :)
19:26:22 <smooge> https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/2704
19:26:34 <smooge> what is the size looking like for the new site that we will stick on the proxy servers?
19:26:43 <sijis> yup, its 'sijis'
19:26:52 <smooge> I want to know if we need to rebuild any of the boxes now or after the freeze
19:27:29 <sijis> size will be about the same. maybe a few extra megs ~15mb
19:28:04 <smooge> ok cool. we can hopefully wait til after the beta then.
19:28:26 <sijis> yeah. you looking to rebuild proxies on rhel6?
19:29:02 <smooge> no
19:29:09 <smooge> they aren't working out very well at the moment
19:29:19 <sijis> no? what's up w/them?
19:29:35 <sijis> (we can move this off meeting, if necessary)
19:29:41 <smooge> we are having oops issues for some reason. waiting for kernel developers to figure out
19:30:28 <sijis> ouch
19:31:09 <smooge> yeah.. anyway that was my main question for this.
19:31:20 <smooge> CodeBlock, I give the meeting back to you for the moment
19:31:22 <sijis> yeah, i'll be taking care of beta website
19:31:49 <CodeBlock> #topic Open Floor
19:32:02 <CodeBlock> and I will give the meeting to anyone who has comments/questions/announcements/concerns/etc
19:32:22 <abadger1999> I'm going on vacation from the 14th through the 26th.
19:32:34 <CodeBlock> jealous. :)
19:32:43 <StylusEater> have fun
19:32:45 <abadger1999> So if something of mine breaks, I apologize and please fix it :-)
19:33:05 <sijis> abadger1999: give me a task list of stuff to look at :)
19:33:07 <CodeBlock> abadger1999: Something of yours? Breaking? :o
19:33:13 <abadger1999> I'm also trying to get a new fas with fpca (instead of cla) signing deployed on staging.
19:33:14 <CodeBlock> abadger1999: ;)
19:33:24 <abadger1999> before I go.
19:33:31 <sijis> abadger1999: you plan on doing that before you leave?
19:33:46 <abadger1999> If it doesn't break in staging I'll update production after I get back.
19:33:52 <abadger1999> sijis: staging, yes.
19:34:14 <abadger1999> sijis: And feel free to apply more updates to fas in staging from there.
19:34:26 <sijis> abadger1999: ok
19:34:39 <abadger1999> (It should be deployed now, in fact... we just can't see it b/c somethings broken with proxy01.stg)
19:34:44 <sijis> are in freeze right now, or will be shortly?
19:35:00 <CodeBlock> sijis: We are in pre-release freeze
19:35:09 <sijis> proxy01.stg always dies :) (or is that app01.stg)
19:35:33 <sijis> CodeBlock: thanks
19:35:33 <smooge> abadger1999, I owe you some web page mockups.. trying to do them without mo is painful
19:36:12 <abadger1999> smooge: No problem -- I probably won't get to act on mockups until I get back.
19:36:26 <smooge> ok
19:36:29 <abadger1999> smooge: Feel free to create a new fas branch to work on implementation though.
19:36:35 <skvidal> abadger1999: where are you going?
19:36:40 <abadger1999> skvidal: Vermont
19:36:47 <smooge> VERMONT?
19:36:53 <smooge> hippy
19:36:58 <skvidal> bah you'll be closer to boston that way
19:37:01 <skvidal> you can work!~ :)
19:37:16 <smooge> actually westford blackhole
19:37:23 * nirik arrives late to the meeting.
19:37:25 <abadger1999> smooge: You don't know the half of it :-) My wife was part of a student demonstration that took over the University President's office 20 years ago.  So we're going to go celebrate the anniversary.
19:37:32 <CodeBlock> nirik! :D
19:37:33 <smooge> hehehehe.
19:37:35 <sijis> smooge: you working on new fas design?
19:37:37 <nirik> abadger1999: nice.
19:37:51 <smooge> my wife did that about the same time at BU
19:38:01 <smooge> must have been something in the water
19:38:41 <smooge> sijis, only in trying to be helpful. I looked at what was asked for and realized "wow that is really complex.. I can't picture it.. so need to mock it up"
19:38:53 <fchiulli> abadger1999: Now that's a worthy cause.  This coming from someone who was at Berkeley when there were National Guard on campus using tear gas.
19:39:23 <abadger1999> smooge, sijis: You guys could work together on that.  sijis did a fair bit of the fpca update.
19:39:52 <sijis> abadger1999: you think you're sticking with cla vs fpca?
19:40:07 <abadger1999> sijis: Yeah... but just module name type stuff.
19:40:29 <sijis> so, module is fpca.. but url is still /cla
19:40:45 <abadger1999> sijis: And maybe not the template name even... We'd need a new template for any given contributor agreement...
19:40:50 <abadger1999> sijis: Yep.
19:41:19 <abadger1999> Hoping to get that all worked out today and tomorrow.
19:41:34 <sijis> ok
19:42:08 <abadger1999> that's all from me.
19:42:20 <CodeBlock> Alrighty
19:42:26 <CodeBlock> abadger1999: have fun on vacation
19:42:27 <CodeBlock> :)
19:42:52 <CodeBlock> Ok, anything else?
19:42:55 <Southern_Gentlem> Please vote for Fedora Contributor Peter Robinson: http://www.redhat.com/summit/awards/rhcp/
19:43:09 <CodeBlock> Oh! speaking of voting,
19:43:09 * nirik has a ton of ideas, but will try and organize them and present things next week. :)
19:43:19 <CodeBlock> #topic Fedora 16 name election
19:43:36 <CodeBlock> If you have not, don't forget to vote on F16's name :)
19:43:45 <sijis> nirik: ideas == work? ;)
19:43:56 <CodeBlock> #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef16
19:44:04 <nirik> well, more organizing the work we have better. ;)
19:44:54 <CodeBlock> nirik: ooh, curious now. :P
19:45:29 * sijis fixes calendar reminder again..
19:45:37 <CodeBlock> #topic Back to open floor
19:45:41 <CodeBlock> Anything else? If not closing in 15
19:45:43 <nirik> nothing amazing... just trying to setup some easy stuff for new people to ramp up on, scheduling better, etc.
19:45:53 <CodeBlock> nirik: ah ok :)
19:46:11 <CodeBlock> nirik: quite a lot of new faces we had today earlier in the meeting
19:46:16 <cyberbyte> ooh...easy stuff...
19:46:29 <nirik> yeah, very nice to see.
19:46:39 <CodeBlock> :)
19:46:46 <CodeBlock> Alright
19:46:49 <CodeBlock> 10
19:46:54 <CodeBlock> 5
19:46:58 <CodeBlock> #endmeeting