01:14:02 <VileGent> #startmeeting 01:14:02 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 6 01:14:02 2011 UTC. The chair is VileGent. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:14:02 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:14:17 <VileGent> chairs inode0 01:14:38 <VileGent> #meeting name FAmNA 01:14:39 <grantbow_> zodbot said VileGent is chair. 01:14:49 <VileGent> #chair inode0 01:14:49 <zodbot> Current chairs: VileGent inode0 01:14:49 * mock slaps inode0 on the back in congradulations 01:15:11 <VileGent> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:NA_Ambassadors_2011-04-05 01:15:17 <VileGent> Agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:NA_Ambassadors_2011-04-05 01:15:34 <VileGent> #topic Agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:NA_Ambassadors_2011-04-05 01:15:54 <VileGent> first up Announcements 01:16:34 <VileGent> the only Announcement i know of is go Vote for the f16 Name 01:16:37 <dramsey> Hmmh.... 01:16:38 <dramsey> Now I feel the Monty Python moment in "Life of Brian" - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIaORknS1Dk 01:16:39 <dramsey> Concurs 100% with mock and VileGent 01:17:09 <VileGent> #topic Events 01:17:43 <VileGent> My report for Indiana LinuxFest are linked off of the ILF wiki Page 01:18:27 <VileGent> any questions? 01:19:04 <mock> what about the lfnw? 01:19:14 <VileGent> #topic Open Floor 01:20:53 <VileGent> mock, since the person on the agenda for the event isnt here i think it was best for go to Open floor 01:21:14 <mock> ah, ok 01:21:39 <VileGent> ok Open floor why has everyone shutup 01:22:27 <dramsey> Sounds good F16 Name Voting - https://admin.fedoraproject.org/voting/about/relnamef16 01:22:27 <dramsey> :) 01:22:35 <VileGent> Anyone have anything to bring up 01:22:44 <dramsey> My best to you all for your success. ;) 01:22:56 <VileGent> just in time 01:23:09 <pcalarco> sorry I'm late folks 01:23:10 <VileGent> #Budget 01:23:21 <VileGent> #topic Budget 01:23:32 <VileGent> pcalarco, right on cue 01:24:11 <VileGent> do you have the budget report for ILF 01:26:25 * mock lights up a cigar 01:26:30 <VileGent> pcalarco, do you have the budget report from ILF 01:27:46 <VileGent> pcalarco, ping 01:27:54 * hicham puts a grenade in mock's cigar 01:28:46 <VileGent> pcalarco_, ping?? 01:28:57 <pcalarco_> disconnected, sorry 01:29:07 <VileGent> pcalarco, do you have the budget report from ILF 01:29:17 <pcalarco_> so i posted the summary of the spend at ILF, does anyone have any questions 01:29:22 <pcalarco_> its linked in the agenda 01:30:45 <VileGent> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ILF_2011#Budget_Actuals| 01:31:15 <pcalarco2> does anyone have any questions about this? 01:31:19 <lcafiero> I'm assuming someone's chairing in my until-recent absence 01:31:30 <herlo> lol 01:31:36 <herlo> hi lcafiero @!! 01:31:47 <lcafiero> Hey, herlo 01:31:47 <pcalarco2> next step is to fill out tickets for reimbursement for mspevack 01:31:55 <pcalarco2> Hi lcafiero 01:32:01 <dramsey> hi lcafiero! 01:32:22 <lcafiero> hi all 01:32:37 <VileGent> do i here any objections to ILF coming in under budget or any of the budget items 01:33:12 <lcafiero> I would find it hard to believe that anyone would object to coming in under budget --- great work, guys 01:33:21 <herlo> +1 pcalarco2 01:33:29 <lcafiero> +1 01:33:29 <herlo> +1 pcalarco 01:33:33 <VileGent> pcalarco2, according to the community arch budget 425 was my fare 01:33:47 <pcalarco2> it was a good first event for ILF; I was glad to have Southern_Gent there, he is awesome 01:33:58 <VileGent> #chair lcafiero 01:33:58 <zodbot> Current chairs: VileGent inode0 lcafiero 01:34:03 <pcalarco2> VileGent: okay 01:34:11 <lcafiero> +1 on VileGent's awesomeness 01:34:23 <dramsey> +1 01:34:33 <VileGent> #Events 01:34:38 <pcalarco2> and the Event Box was fab 01:35:03 <herlo> u 01:35:04 <herlo> lous 01:35:17 <VileGent> #topic Events 01:35:26 <VileGent> lcafiero, **tag** 01:35:34 <lcafiero> ouch 01:35:40 * herlo thinks some BNF wrestling may be going on here 01:35:44 <lcafiero> Is it time for Linux Fest Northwest? 01:36:00 <jsandys> sure 01:36:01 <VileGent> pass time actually 01:36:06 <lcafiero> do you want to keep going, VileGent, or shall I take the reins? 01:36:14 <VileGent> its yours 01:36:16 * lcafiero assumes VileGent is chairing 01:36:19 <lcafiero> OK 01:36:20 <lcafiero> Events 01:36:40 <lcafiero> Did you cover everything you needed to re ILF? 01:36:43 <VileGent> we covered ILF 01:36:58 <lcafiero> Excellent 01:37:04 * MarkDude brought FAIL - and apologizes for that on ILF 01:37:05 <lcafiero> OK on to the great northwest 01:37:14 <lcafiero> No worries, MarkDude 01:37:24 <lcafiero> jsandys: do you want to start, or shall I? 01:37:33 <jsandys> go ahead 01:37:38 * lcafiero springs it on jsandys 01:37:46 <lcafiero> OK, jump in where you see fit, jsandys 01:38:01 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2011 01:38:18 <lcafiero> Thanks to jsandys for setting up this page and maintaining it. 01:39:07 <lcafiero> LFNW is at the end of the month. So far there are only two booth denizens -- jsandys and me -- and I'm giving two presentations. spot is giving one, and I think Jesse Keating is giving another. 01:39:25 <jsandys> I see you put in housing and travel, has the sponsorship been sent? 01:39:44 <lcafiero> The budget so far is $1,443, and that includes travel (only mine), because I don't know if jsandys needs to travel. 01:40:07 <lcafiero> I did, jsandys, and the lodging is for two rooms at the discounted rates for two nights. 01:40:32 <lcafiero> As for sponsorship, I have told LFNW that we would sponsor at last year's level, which is $500. 01:40:45 <VileGent> i only ask that you total the budget on the webpage 01:40:54 <jsandys> I'll pass on the travel, my daughter attends college in b'ham. 01:40:58 <lcafiero> As it's their 12th year and they're growing, I wanted to get a sense of the group to see if we'd go up a level to $1,000 in sponsorship 01:41:19 <lcafiero> making the budget $1,943 01:41:46 <lcafiero> jsandys: do you have any expenses you need to include? 01:41:52 <lcafiero> travel and the like? 01:42:17 <jsandys> none 01:42:22 <lcafiero> OK, good. 01:42:42 <lcafiero> Also, I'm going to try to corral spot and jesse to do booth duty. 01:43:05 <lcafiero> Any objection to sponsoring at the $1,000 level for LFNW? 01:43:11 <VileGent> spot is good about pulling booth duty between sessions 01:43:19 <lcafiero> That he is 01:43:31 <lcafiero> As Fedora's self-proclaimed "booth babe" 01:43:51 <VileGent> only if the penguin suit comes 01:43:53 <VileGent> lol 01:44:10 <jsandys> If attendance is greater on Sunday and there was more booth help a higher sponsorship would be appropriate 01:44:16 <MarkDude> What about the cut rate penguin suit I have? 01:44:18 <lcafiero> OK 01:44:30 <lcafiero> I can go either way on the sponsorship. 01:44:36 * MarkDude promises to take no weird ADD medicine 01:44:38 <lcafiero> I just thought it would be a nice gesture on our part. 01:44:50 <lcafiero> MarkDude: if you want to go, let's talk later. 01:44:52 <jsandys> agreed 01:45:29 <MarkDude> np 01:46:17 <lcafiero> OK, that's all I have on LFNW, except to ask for an approval of the provisional budget. 01:46:24 <lcafiero> at $1,443. 01:46:39 <jsandys> I am not familiar with the total fedora budget and how this fits in, I'll leave it to the more experienced. 01:46:39 <lcafiero> can I get an amen or a plus-1? 01:46:48 <VileGent> lcafiero, which isit 1443 or 1942 01:46:55 <VileGent> lcafiero, which isit 1443 or 1943 01:46:58 <lcafiero> It's $1443 01:47:06 <VileGent> ok 01:47:31 <jsandys> +1 01:47:33 <lcafiero> no increase in sponsorship 01:47:37 <VileGent> +1 01:47:40 <grantbow_> +1 01:47:41 <herlo> +1 01:47:51 <lcafiero> hearing no objection, I will consider that an OK. 01:48:12 <nb> +1 01:48:20 <lcafiero> ah, finally :-) 01:49:13 <lcafiero> Moving on then 01:49:31 <lcafiero> VileGent: did you guys cover the ILF budget item already? 01:49:40 <VileGent> lcafiero, yep 01:49:52 <lcafiero> ILF budget actuals? 01:49:58 <VileGent> lcafiero, you even posted about it 01:50:10 <lcafiero> #topic Budget 01:50:31 <VileGent> <VileGent> do i here any objections to ILF coming in under budget or any of the budget items 01:50:32 <VileGent> <lcafiero> I would find it hard to believe that anyone would object to coming in under budget --- great work, guys 01:51:13 <lcafiero> ILF budget actuals were discussed already? 01:51:17 <VileGent> yes 01:51:41 <VileGent> was doing it when you posted the above 01:51:54 <lcafiero> hello? 01:52:04 <herlo> my name 01:52:13 <herlo> is inigo montoya 01:52:15 <herlo> :) 01:52:22 <VileGent> lcafiero, what do you not understand 01:52:22 <nb> it was discussed that it was underbudget 01:52:51 <lcafiero> Ah, OK, thanks, nb 01:53:06 <lcafiero> Are we OK here? I seem to be lagging pretty furiously 01:53:12 <lcafiero> and on line, too :-) 01:53:13 <nb> not sure anyone said exactly how much 01:53:19 * nb thinks that people are just quiet 01:53:29 <lcafiero> OK, tough crowd. 01:53:38 <lcafiero> Anyway, any other budget items to discuss? 01:53:48 <lcafiero> Swag OK for the swagmeisters? 01:53:52 <VileGent> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ILF_2011#Budget_Actuals| 01:54:08 <VileGent> lcafiero, never enough 01:54:09 * nb is pretty good on swag 01:54:13 <nb> anyone need livecds? 01:54:16 <nb> i have a whole box 01:54:28 * lcafiero is good on swag and plans to give it out at LFNW. 01:54:38 <lcafiero> I'm good on live CDs/install DVDs as well. 01:54:38 <nb> actually i think i have less than a box now 01:54:43 <nb> but still quite a bit 01:54:46 <lcafiero> LFNW is right before the next release. 01:54:47 <nb> i'm fairly low on install, but will be ok 01:55:01 <nb> WTF? 01:55:15 <VileGent> nb ?? 01:55:16 <jsandys> So it is a great time to give away all the remaining f14 disks 01:55:16 <lcafiero> Indeed. 01:55:16 <nb> i think something was lagged and just got fixed 01:55:31 <lcafiero> OK, thenk I'm not an idiot. 01:55:31 <grantbow_> freenode might be having more DOS attacks 01:55:39 <lcafiero> Or maybe I am, but not because of the IRC channel 01:55:43 <nb> i got like half a page of text all at once 01:55:48 <lcafiero> ditto 01:55:54 <VileGent> ok i didnt 01:56:09 <lcafiero> OK, any more budget items? 01:56:12 * nb thinks about we should set up our own irc network again, then realizes that is not that great 01:56:18 <nb> although moving to oftc wouldn't be a bad idea 01:56:35 <lcafiero> scale uses it -- it's pretty good. 01:56:55 <lcafiero> Anyway, hearing no more budget madness, er, items, let's move on 01:57:01 <VileGent> well i think i may need some for SELF 01:57:19 <lcafiero> SELF is in June? 01:57:25 <lcafiero> May? 01:57:28 <VileGent> 2 weeks after release 01:57:32 <lcafiero> Ah. 01:57:58 <lcafiero> Ah, one more thing about swag . . . 01:58:07 <lcafiero> nah, I'll post it on the mailing list and discuss it there. 01:58:13 <nb> i am thinking i will stick with our current media supplier for F15 unless given a reason to change (since i think it's about time to request a PO) 01:58:25 <lcafiero> Right, good point, nb 01:58:27 <nb> will look at the cheaper provider someone found for F16 (unless there's objections) 01:58:48 <nb> what kind of events will people be wanting media for during F15 release? 01:59:07 <pcalarco2> OLF 01:59:21 <VileGent> nb, looking at last years events will give you a good guess 01:59:31 <lcafiero> OSCON 01:59:41 <nb> true, i can also look at the numbers herlo sent me 01:59:59 <lcafiero> OK, open floor/unfinished business, anyone? 02:00:12 <VileGent> been there done that 02:00:22 <jsandys> Larry, do you mind if I update the ambassadors meeting wiki with links to our minutes? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings 02:00:24 <VileGent> motion to adjoin 02:00:26 <nb> Thank you for the goodies that the central event box inherited :) 02:00:33 <nb> we now have a power strip and scissors 02:00:35 <lcafiero> #topic Open Floor/Unfinished Business 02:00:41 <nb> we still need to get a router and ethernet cables 02:00:54 <lcafiero> jsandys: Yes. I was going to say how behind I was on that, but go ahead if you would please. 02:00:54 <VileGent> nb, $29 at wally world 02:00:55 <pcalarco2> FrienFinder care of KMart :) 02:01:01 <nb> VileGent, yeah 02:01:02 * lcafiero thanks jsandys profusely 02:01:04 <nb> are the cheap ones pretty good? 02:01:21 <nb> VileGent, i had thought about a wrt54gl and putting dd-wrt or something on it 02:01:31 <nb> so we could use F/OSS on it 02:01:44 <lcafiero> nb: I may have one to send you. It's collecting dust in my office. 02:01:49 <nb> lcafiero, oh ok 02:01:49 <grantbow_> openwrt is more free 02:01:57 <nb> grantbow_, or we coujld put that on it 02:01:59 <VileGent> so far the belkin i have works fine , the one i bought today works great 02:02:11 <lcafiero> nb, badger me about it if I don't get back to you in a day or two. 02:02:18 <lcafiero> That goes for anyone :-) 02:02:40 <nb> ok 02:02:44 <VileGent> nb the problem is i have yet to really need it at a event yet 02:02:50 <nb> VileGent, did you notice anything else central needs yet? 02:02:55 <nb> VileGent, true, most have wifi don't they?L 02:03:19 <nb> I started to get worried. I didn't see the XO in the box 02:03:26 <nb> (It was in the HP box along with the HP 02:03:31 <nb> which is a good idea to save space 02:03:34 <lcafiero> Assuming all the RESPONSIBLE ambassadors got here on time :-) and the meeting started on time with VileGent and inode0 taking the reins, we're now a little over an hour. 02:03:41 <pcalarco2> space optimization :) 02:03:43 <jsandys> Sorry I was late on but 0200UTC is 7:00PM PDT. 02:03:44 <lcafiero> If that matters to anyone 02:03:50 <nb> pcalarco2, yeah, very good idea 02:04:06 <lcafiero> Oh wait -- is that right, jsandys? 02:04:12 <VileGent> nb Tape, markers, and ink pens 02:04:28 <nb> VileGent, i had ink pens in there i thought? i'll make sure to pick up tape and markers 02:04:29 <lcafiero> If so, that's my bad -- I should have made the meeting an hour earlier UTC 02:04:33 <lcafiero> Or later. 02:04:39 * lcafiero hates Daylight Savings Time 02:04:47 <nb> VileGent, scotch tape? masking tape? (although i guess i could take this discussion to the regular channel) 02:04:50 <jsandys> second 02:04:50 <lcafiero> with a heat of a nova 02:05:03 * nb moves to adjourn if no one else has any business 02:05:14 <herlo> +1 02:05:18 * grantbow_ seconds 02:05:19 <lcafiero> motion to adjourn and seconded 02:05:20 <jsandys> +1 02:05:20 <VileGent> nb blue masking tape 02:05:37 <lcafiero> OK, folks, thanks again and sorry for being late -- I had connection issues 02:05:40 <pcalarco2> +1 02:05:53 <lcafiero> Wrapping up in 5 02:05:53 <jsandys> or early 02:05:54 <lcafiero> 4 02:05:56 <lcafiero> 3 02:06:03 <lcafiero> or early :-) 02:06:05 <lcafiero> 2 02:06:07 <lcafiero> one 02:06:12 <lcafiero> #endmeeting