01:01:07 <lcafiero> #startmeeting Fedora NA Ambassadors Meeting 2011-03-15 01:01:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 16 01:01:07 2011 UTC. The chair is lcafiero. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:01:07 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:01:37 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2011-03-15 01:01:46 <lcafiero> The agenda is there^^^ 01:01:50 <mock> bacon 01:01:57 <mock> oh, wrong channel 01:02:08 <VileGent> nope its still good 01:02:10 <lcafiero> Oh, no. Bacon is fine as long as you bring enough for everyone 01:02:17 <mock> heh 01:02:42 <herlo> .fas herlo 01:02:43 <zodbot> herlo: herlo 'Clint Savage' <herlo1@gmail.com> 01:02:56 <lcafiero> #topic Announcements 01:03:01 <lcafiero> Announcements? 01:03:48 <nb> VileGent, will not be able to attend ILF 01:03:49 <mock> ...i has a pycon report 01:03:50 <nb> VileGent, will ship the event box somewhere 01:03:52 <nb> (but i guess i could discuss this at the proper time in the meeting) 01:04:57 <lcafiero> Pycon report -- that might be good here. 01:05:10 <mock> http://mocktech.com/blog/2011/03/fedora-swag-at-pycon/ 01:05:12 <lcafiero> Let's take ILF in evnets 01:05:19 <lcafiero> evnets=events 01:05:56 <mock> summary: ended up giving away almost all the media 01:05:56 <lcafiero> #link http://mocktech.com/blog/2011/03/fedora-swag-at-pycon/ 01:06:24 <mock> they seemed to eat it up. also, pens, balloons, some pins, some stickers 01:06:39 <lcafiero> like locusts, huh? :-) 01:06:45 <mock> VileGent: i have some leftover pens, balloons, pins, and stickers 01:06:51 <mock> pretty much 01:06:56 <lcafiero> how many people? 01:07:04 <mock> what i put out was gone when i checked back 01:07:05 <lcafiero> attendance, that is. 01:07:11 <mock> pycon totalled about 1,500 01:07:17 <VileGent> mock bring to SELF with you 01:07:19 <lcafiero> Nice. 01:07:23 <mock> VileGent: will do 01:07:49 <mock> toshio, luke, dmalcolm, and neville were all there wearing fedora t-shirts too 01:08:16 <mock> and if you jump to blip.tv and look up pycon 2011, you can find dmalcolm's talks 01:08:44 <mock> those are the highlights 01:09:09 <mock> link above has more detail for those interested 01:09:31 <lcafiero> OK, great, mock 01:10:21 <lcafiero> Any other announcements? 01:10:28 * herlo is happy 01:10:34 <herlo> that's my announcement :) 01:10:35 <lcafiero> +1 for that 01:10:43 <lcafiero> :-) 01:10:46 <herlo> oh, I know one more 01:10:53 <lcafiero> shoot, herlo 01:11:03 * nb is happy also 01:11:08 <herlo> everyone should join the beefymiracle fb page and get their frankenfurter on! 01:11:16 <herlo> fb == facebook 01:11:20 * herlo is done 01:11:25 <lcafiero> (notice how punctuation saved herlo's life there) 01:11:43 <herlo> lcafiero: indeed 01:11:46 * herlo moves on 01:11:48 * lcafiero goes to join 01:11:50 <lcafiero> OK then 01:12:18 <lcafiero> #topic Events 01:12:46 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 01:12:57 <lcafiero> We have two events on the agenda, but we can add ILF too 01:13:03 <herlo> lcafiero: would SxSW fit in here? or would it be better served at the end? It's going on now. 01:13:07 <lcafiero> I'll pass on LFNW for the moment 01:13:14 <lcafiero> We can add SxSW here as well 01:13:34 <lcafiero> Is TXLF in the house? 01:13:51 * nb wonders who that is? 01:13:53 <herlo> lcafiero: well, it's about other events, too 01:13:54 <lcafiero> I think that was maxamillion's item 01:13:55 <nb> maxamillion i think? 01:14:15 <lcafiero> right. OK, I'll go quickly on LFNW since jeff sandys isn't here. 01:15:11 <lcafiero> We're getting rolling on Linux Fest Northwest, April 30-May 2 in bellingham, wash. Not much else to report. We plan to sponsor at last year's level. Kevin Higgins is unable to own the event, so Jeff and I will be handling it. 01:15:29 <lcafiero> I have a Fedora 15 presentation, and my New user presentation 01:15:37 <lcafiero> that is all for LFNW for now. 01:15:54 <lcafiero> So who wants to go next -- ILF or SxSW? 01:16:35 * lcafiero looks at nb and herlo 01:17:03 <herlo> lcafiero: I think I want to talk at open floor 01:17:10 <lcafiero> OK then 01:17:18 <herlo> also, what's the agenda link again? 01:17:26 <VileGent> we could go to open floor to do ILF 01:17:37 <lcafiero> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2011-03-15 01:17:41 <lcafiero> fair enough 01:17:45 <herlo> thx 01:17:48 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2011-03-15 01:17:50 <lcafiero> sorry 01:18:05 <VileGent> lcafiero, it picks up the links automaticly 01:18:15 <lcafiero> OK then. We'll take TXLF in Open Floor if maxamillion shows up 01:18:20 <nb> oh sorry 01:18:25 * nb is here 01:18:38 <nb> IDK much about ILF, unfortunately I will not be able to go 01:18:43 <nb> I will ship the event box 01:18:50 <nb> VileGent, who/where should i ship to? 01:18:59 <nb> central event box is getting more-or-less set up 01:19:10 <VileGent> i will work with nb and lcafiero to get stuff shipped for ILF 01:19:18 <nb> ok 01:19:20 <lcafiero> OK good. 01:19:33 <inode0> pascal is driving so he should work ... 01:19:36 <VileGent> that is an action item 01:20:05 <VileGent> inode0, ship it to the hotel 01:20:12 <lcafiero> #action VileGent will work with nb and lcafiero to get stuff shipped for ILF 01:21:24 <lcafiero> So who's going to ILF after all? Pascal, MarkDude . . . and . . . .? 01:21:49 <VileGent> lcafiero, at the moment its looking like me ,pascal,markdude, dgilmore 01:21:50 <nb> VileGent, 01:22:26 <lcafiero> And VileGent 01:22:43 <lcafiero> Got it. OK, good team. 01:23:03 <lcafiero> So we'll move TXLF and SxSW to Open Floor. 01:23:21 <lcafiero> #topic Budget 01:23:32 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_budget 01:23:47 <lcafiero> This is the FAmSCo budget page which, as you can see, has nothing on it 01:23:53 <lcafiero> Where it links to is this 01:24:18 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Community_Architecture_expenses 01:25:19 <nb> How are all the other regional shipping people doing on swag? 01:25:23 <lcafiero> I haven't been able to ascertain whether we're doing everything from CommArch now, financially, or whether we're going to set up an other FAmSCo page related to Ambassador-only spending 01:25:37 <nb> i'm pretty good, but am going to be shipping a lot soon 01:25:57 <lcafiero> Hang on a sec, nb 01:26:01 <lcafiero> If you could. 01:26:31 <lcafiero> I just wanted to mention the finance sig which meets biweekly -- the next one is this friday at 11 a.m. eastern right here. 01:26:32 <nb> ok 01:26:36 <lcafiero> OK, now swag. 01:27:27 <lcafiero> I have media, buttons, balloons and pens. Low on stickers. Out of shirts. 01:27:36 <lcafiero> We should probably think about ordering more shirts. 01:27:38 <herlo> well, this will go to my discussion later, but I'd like to request an exploratory budget for the event boxen to have a webcam and some sort of stand-up 01:27:55 <herlo> lcafiero: turns out, I had shirts, just forgot that I had them. I could send you some... 01:28:06 <VileGent> i am out of shirts 01:28:18 <herlo> well, we should order shirts :) 01:28:41 <nb> There was some discussion previously about getting newer netbooks 01:28:42 <lcafiero> herlo, since that's related to budget, do you want to discuss that here? 01:28:50 <VileGent> i have pens, stickers 01:29:09 * inode0 can make a comment about newer netbooks 01:29:10 <herlo> lcafiero: well, it's a longer discussion, but I can put together the budget and propose it next meeting based upon the discussion in open floor 01:29:17 <VileGent> there was some discussion about getting some from redhat 01:29:18 <lcafiero> OK 01:29:29 <lcafiero> VileGent: so what do you need? 01:29:30 <herlo> inode0: I'd like to hear that 01:30:08 <VileGent> buttons, tshirts 01:30:15 <inode0> spevack was going to check on availability of some thinkpads from Red Hat to use at events - status of that unknown 01:30:44 <nb> Oh, I have a note about shipping. If you have to ship internationally, a good way to do it is ask spevack or mchua to print you a label from usps.com 01:30:51 <lcafiero> #action ping spevack on availability of some thinkpads from Red Hattouse at events 01:30:53 <nb> priority mail international is not bad 01:31:14 <nb> is expensive but no moreso than ups (plus our account is not for international afaik) 01:31:39 <mock> regarding stickers, i assume that means reg f stickers and not case badges, correct? 01:32:06 <lcafiero> the f stickers -- we all should be good on case badges 01:32:17 * lcafiero is fighting with his space bar 01:32:19 <lcafiero> and losing 01:32:39 <VileGent> mock yep 01:32:56 <lcafiero> (or, as we called them at scale, the "facebook stickers" :-) ) 01:32:57 <inode0> we might want to check with spot at some point to see if he will need more supplies (stickers/case badges) 01:33:13 <lcafiero> OK 01:33:14 <mock> i would concur on the abundance of case badges 01:33:16 <nb> inode0, i'll take care of that? 01:33:39 * nb thinks pcalarco has his resupply of casebadges, i'll send him a ups label to retrieve the ones not needed for ILF 01:33:53 <lcafiero> #action nb to check with spot at some point to see if he will need more supplies 01:34:04 <VileGent> nb they will be sent back in the box from ilf 01:34:14 <nb> VileGent, oh ok, that works 01:34:30 <lcafiero> OK then. 01:34:43 <lcafiero> Can we move on to unfinished business/open floor? 01:34:43 <VileGent> as far media i have aobut 50 live f14 cds and 10 install media 01:35:02 <nb> MarkDude, is here! 01:35:15 <MarkDude> Yes 01:35:25 <lcafiero> So you need media, too, VileGent? 01:35:49 <VileGent> i am waiting for f15 media at this point 01:36:05 <VileGent> i only have a installfest this weekend 01:36:16 <lcafiero> OK 01:36:18 <VileGent> after that i have no events untill june 01:36:25 <lcafiero> I see. 01:36:36 <VileGent> then i have no idea about SELF 01:36:39 <lcafiero> Anything else about media/swag? 01:37:01 <herlo> oh 01:37:02 <herlo> yes 01:37:08 <nb> herlo, what kind of standup were you meaning? 01:37:16 <herlo> I was talking with jsmith about media the other day 01:37:21 <herlo> nb: we'll get to it in a minute 01:37:24 <lcafiero> hang on herlo 01:37:31 <herlo> okay 01:37:32 * herlo waits 01:37:34 <lcafiero> go ahead about the swag 01:37:37 <herlo> okay 01:37:41 * herlo goes ahead 01:37:43 <lcafiero> the stand up can come later 01:37:45 <lcafiero> thanks 01:37:46 <herlo> yes 01:37:53 <herlo> so the media, as I was saying :) 01:38:26 <herlo> he told me, or was it mizmo, that they got a *much* better price for media through a company out near them. I might see if we can work with them for F15 media 01:38:45 <herlo> something like $.08-$.10/each cheaper 01:38:52 <lcafiero> wow 01:38:52 <nb> nice 01:38:54 <dgilmore> herlo: did you ever get the new case done? 01:38:57 <herlo> and since I'm moving 01:39:24 <herlo> in a few months, it's probably a good time to hand it off and get someone else involved in the fiasco that is the Red Hat PO system 01:39:33 <herlo> dgilmore: no, don't want to talk about it :( 01:40:46 <herlo> so, who wants to help me? 01:41:04 <lcafiero> What needs to be done? 01:41:17 * nb wonders if there is a vendor that would take the purchase order and not make us wait for a check? 01:41:34 <nb> (or is the wait to actually get a po?) 01:41:51 <herlo> nb: that happens now 01:42:01 <herlo> yeah, it's the po that's the issue 01:42:11 <nb> oh 01:42:13 <herlo> it's not horrilble, we just have to have the approval months before 01:43:05 <nb> herlo, so what is involved in this? coordinating between spevack/redhat and the vendor? 01:43:11 <nb> and possibly investigating new vendor/ 01:43:11 <nb> ? 01:43:26 <herlo> sorry, baby is grumpy, had to put him down for a namp 01:43:27 <herlo> nap 01:43:48 <herlo> nb: yeah, pretty much, just coordinating art, media company and delivery with RH/Max and a PO 01:44:01 <herlo> it's easy, though a time sink sometimes 01:44:01 <nb> herlo, i can do it (with your help) 01:44:08 <herlo> nb: cool, you are hired :) 01:44:21 <lcafiero> I'd do a background check if I were you, herlo :-) 01:44:22 * herlo will coordinate with nb offline 01:44:25 <lcafiero> Anyway, good. 01:44:32 <herlo> lcafiero: k, I'll take that into consideration :) 01:44:37 <lcafiero> OK then 01:45:00 <lcafiero> We're through here and can go on to unfinished business/ open floor? 01:45:12 * lcafiero looks around for approval 01:45:13 <VileGent> +1 01:45:21 <herlo> +1 01:45:28 <lcafiero> #topic unfinished business/open floor 01:45:30 <VileGent> approval? you are the one running this show 01:46:03 * lcafiero is a benevolent dictator who wants everyone to have their say 01:46:06 <MarkDude> Like my estimates for ILF? 01:46:14 <MarkDude> or should I wait 01:46:18 <lcafiero> So we had two things carried over from Events 01:46:22 <lcafiero> You should wait. 01:46:34 <MarkDude> np 01:46:35 <lcafiero> maxamillion here? 01:46:50 <lcafiero> Hrm. OK. 01:46:51 <douglax> Hello good friends lcafiero and MarkDude 01:47:04 <lcafiero> hey, douglax -- bienvenidos! 01:47:26 <lcafiero> herlo: did you want to take SxSW? 01:47:42 <lcafiero> Or is there someone here who is there or has been there? 01:47:42 <douglax> gracias, hi everyone 01:47:50 <herlo> sure 01:47:58 <lcafiero> Go ahead, herlo 01:48:11 <herlo> lcafiero: so, my whole discussion here is about the booth at SxSW and what they have done to attract people 01:48:22 <herlo> it's pretty cool, if you haven't seen the traffic about it, here's a few links 01:48:33 <herlo> http://fedorapeople.org/groups/photobooth/ 01:48:42 <herlo> http://fedorapeople.org/groups/photobooth/sxsw-86ada905-3085-4f4c-8bc9-6d04f29e8f13.jpg.html 01:48:47 <herlo> there are tons more in the first dir 01:48:51 <lcafiero> the guy kawasaki w/ tux picture is classic 01:48:55 <herlo> find the ones that end in .html and click one 01:49:00 <herlo> lcafiero: yeah! 01:49:02 <herlo> so 01:49:37 <herlo> Max brought this up on the ml today, that he'd like to see some retrospective on the concept that these guys did and I'd like to throw out some ideas to start the discussion 01:49:49 * douglax wasn't aware meeting has already started, daylight has got him a little confused :S 01:49:52 <herlo> essentially, this is a new concept for us, but I think it could be a huge draw 01:50:12 <herlo> so at SxSW, they had a photo booth with Tux, the penguin 01:50:34 <herlo> and while I like the idea of the penguin at something like SxSW, many of my friends commented about how he looked like a black and white duck 01:50:40 <herlo> I thought that was funny 01:50:49 <herlo> so another thought that came to my mind was a stand-up 01:51:04 <herlo> something where people could stand next to it, or behind it with holes for heads 01:51:26 <inode0> how many heads? 01:51:31 <herlo> or it could be a famous person (like Linus, Richard Stallman, etc) 01:51:32 <lcafiero> heh. 01:51:38 <herlo> inode0: unknown, just giving ideas 01:51:55 <herlo> but it'd need to be light enough to fit in an event box somehow, or easily be moved 01:52:01 <herlo> so that's where the challenge begins 01:52:14 <herlo> thinking about this, there are two basic components we'll need 01:52:21 <herlo> besides a dedicated computer 01:52:31 <herlo> a webcam and the software that Luke Macken wrote 01:52:41 <herlo> and somewhere to take the photos 01:52:57 <herlo> er something to take the photos of besides the people 01:53:26 <herlo> so there's my take on the booth and at least one thing I'd personally like to do with the new fedora booth 01:53:39 <MarkDude> hello douglax 01:53:41 <herlo> all the things that are there now, wouldn't change much, imo 01:53:43 <lcafiero> is space going to be a consideration, too 01:53:45 <lcafiero> ? 01:53:58 <herlo> of course, that's one of those things we'd have to evaluate 01:54:06 <lcafiero> right. I think it's a great idea 01:54:20 <herlo> some of the booths I've seen will turn their table sideways and stand, with room for video screen or something 01:54:44 <lcafiero> That's true. We can probably work out the geography 01:55:03 <lcafiero> should we continue discussion on list? 01:55:05 <VileGent> http://fedorapeople.org/groups/photobooth/ is what they were doing at SXSW 01:55:07 <herlo> anyway, I plan to take this discussion to the mailing list, but I was really impressed with what those guys did at SxSW 01:55:12 <herlo> VileGent: yes 01:55:42 <lcafiero> OK. 01:55:59 <herlo> clearly, we could add to it, like simple fb posts, or identi.ca, etc. But that's a discussion for the ml methinks 01:56:13 <lcafiero> agreed. 01:56:30 <lcafiero> inode0: did you have something about the laptops? 01:56:49 <inode0> nothing more than I said earlier 01:57:01 <lcafiero> OK 01:57:38 <lcafiero> So much for MarkDude weighing in on ILF 01:57:57 <lcafiero> OK, since maxamillion isn't here and we're reaching the one-hour point, I'm going to wrap this up. 01:58:06 <herlo> +1 01:58:17 <lcafiero> OK, in 5 01:58:19 <lcafiero> 4 01:58:20 <lcafiero> 3 01:58:24 <lcafiero> (anyone else?) 01:58:25 <lcafiero> 2 01:58:27 <herlo> +1 01:58:32 <lcafiero> 1 (heh) 01:58:38 <herlo> lol 01:58:39 <lcafiero> #endmeeting