13:11:42 <liknus> #startmeeting FAmSCo Meeting 2011-03-12
13:11:42 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Mar 12 13:11:42 2011 UTC.  The chair is liknus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:11:51 <liknus> #chair gbraad yn1v
13:11:51 <zodbot> Current chairs: gbraad liknus yn1v
13:12:00 <liknus> #topic RollCall
13:12:04 <liknus> .fas ppapadeas
13:12:04 <zodbot> liknus: ppapadeas 'Papadeas Pierros' <ppapadeas@gmail.com>
13:12:04 <gbraad> .fas gbraad
13:12:08 <zodbot> gbraad: gbraad 'Gerard Braad (吉拉德)' <fedora@gbraad.nl>
13:12:09 <liknus> #meetingname famsco
13:12:09 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
13:12:12 <yn1v> .fas yn1v
13:12:16 <zodbot> yn1v: yn1v 'Neville A. Cross' <neville@taygon.com>
13:12:26 <liknus> our agenda can be found here :
13:12:27 <liknus> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda
13:12:38 <liknus> #topic Past items
13:12:54 <liknus> Larry is not here.. so skipping those
13:13:08 <liknus> gbraad, any progress on the subdomain?
13:13:14 <gbraad> nope
13:13:23 <gbraad> busy schedule these days
13:13:50 <gbraad> keep the action and move on?
13:13:58 <liknus> ok gbraad no worries... passing over to the next meeting
13:14:01 <liknus> moving on:
13:14:10 <liknus> I am still waiting for the bug
13:14:16 <liknus> about the wiki
13:14:23 * gbraad *sighs*
13:14:29 <liknus> I need to step it up and report it to the board
13:14:34 <liknus> Are we ok with that?
13:14:37 <gbraad> +1
13:14:52 <liknus> #action liknus reports bug blocking wiki update to the board
13:14:53 <gbraad> I also have two tickets open for admin. seems they are very busy
13:15:05 <liknus> hm... we can help them if they want
13:15:08 <liknus> hey kaio
13:15:13 <gbraad> .fas kaio
13:15:13 <zodbot> gbraad: kaio 'Caius Chance' <me@kaio.net>
13:15:31 <liknus> moving on to Ambassadors SOP
13:15:46 <liknus> I did the announcement but none stepped up
13:16:03 <gbraad> maybe post another message
13:16:03 <liknus> can you push people on the regional meetings to step up on that?
13:16:12 <gbraad> +1
13:16:19 <gbraad> action item
13:16:23 <liknus> ok:
13:16:43 <liknus> #action Regional Chairs push Ambassadors SOP editing on regional meetings
13:16:48 <liknus> ok moving on:
13:17:00 <liknus> We need to push forward Rahul actions
13:17:27 <liknus> anyone willing to step up for them
13:17:27 <liknus> ?
13:17:55 <gbraad> was it neville who dealt with emails for Rahul?
13:17:57 <liknus> ok I will ask on the list
13:18:11 <liknus> #action liknus posts in famsco list about Rahul items
13:18:12 <yn1_v> I went offline
13:18:23 <liknus> moving on:
13:18:29 <liknus> kaio, your items?
13:18:41 <gbraad> yn1_v no problem, pycon's connection... we know
13:18:42 <gbraad> ;-)
13:18:45 <yn1_v> last email to rahul went unansered
13:19:05 <gbraad> yn1_v rahul is more active since today. at least on identi.ca
13:19:36 * gbraad thinks kaio's presence was a glitch in the system
13:19:47 <kaio> .fasinfo kaio
13:19:48 <zodbot> kaio: User: kaio, Name: Caius Chance, email: me@kaio.net, Creation: 2008-09-10, IRC Nick: kaio, Timezone: Australia/Brisbane, Locale: en, Extension: 5114286, GPG key ID: 17BEFCFA, Status: active
13:19:52 <zodbot> kaio: Unapproved Groups: art
13:19:56 <zodbot> kaio: Approved Groups: freemedia cvsl10n famsco cla_fedora cla_done fedorabugs hgflies packager cla_redhat ambassadors l10n-commits @packager-zh
13:20:03 <liknus> hey kaio :)
13:20:09 <liknus> any news on your items?
13:20:09 <kaio> liknus, yay
13:21:07 <kaio> liknus, the media has not done yet, the battery of the OLPC was stuck because Australia Post doesn't allow lithium battery to be sent by air.
13:21:26 <kaio> (the media distribution)
13:21:37 <liknus> ok and the Legal?
13:21:56 <kaio> liknus, Classroom?
13:22:23 <gbraad> I think this was an old item
13:22:32 <liknus> ok I shall delete it then
13:22:33 * gbraad do not think it was still relevant
13:22:39 <gbraad> s/do/does
13:22:47 * liknus is also thinking the same
13:22:50 <gbraad> kaio?
13:22:54 <kaio> gbraad, ?
13:23:13 <kaio> For teaching Linux/Fedora stuffs we can do anytime.
13:23:25 <liknus> what Legal has to do with that?
13:23:28 * yn1_v think same ... not relevant
13:23:54 <gbraad> this was an old item, related to a possible RHCE overlap.
13:23:59 <gbraad> do not think this applies
13:24:05 * kaio is confused which exactly talking.
13:24:15 <liknus> about the item named :
13:24:16 <gbraad> however, some of the action points of last meeting do not seem to have been adopted
13:24:22 <liknus> legal of Fedora Classroom
13:24:44 <liknus> gbraad, I told kaio to do it.. chair has this responsibility
13:24:56 <liknus> I will review them again to add any items
13:25:03 <liknus> legal item will be removed
13:25:10 <liknus> Moving on?
13:25:23 <kaio> ++
13:25:28 <gbraad> +1
13:25:30 <liknus> #topic New Items
13:25:51 <liknus> #topic Ambassadors Schedule
13:26:03 <liknus> http://rbergero.fedorapeople.org/schedules/f-15/f-15-ambassadors-tasks.html
13:26:16 <liknus> According to the program we have an item approaching
13:26:31 <liknus> FAmSCo and Regional teams call for Preparation of Media/SWAG
13:27:12 <liknus> I will write the appropriate mail and call for the Ambassadors wide meetings for POC for Swag/Media production
13:27:23 <yn1_v> I had to prepare some media for FLISOL
13:27:31 <liknus> so the regional teams can request budget
13:27:39 <liknus> yn1_v, we are talking for the F15
13:27:54 <liknus> are we all ok with the next items on the schedule?
13:28:01 <yn1_v> that's my problem, flisol is pre F-15
13:28:14 <liknus> so you will have F14
13:28:20 <yn1_v> so It has to be minimum
13:28:21 <liknus> we all have events like this :(
13:28:30 <yn1_v> so I do not end with leftovers
13:28:48 <liknus> anyone any comments on the schedule?
13:29:10 <liknus> #action liknus announces next schedule items, and contacts regional leaders
13:29:15 <liknus> also something that I forgot:
13:29:46 <liknus> #action liknus contacts lcafierro about renaming the Ambassadors NA meeting page
13:29:52 <liknus> (it has to include NA)
13:30:08 <liknus> ok moving on : ?
13:30:53 <gbraad> +1
13:30:58 <liknus> ok :)
13:31:09 <gbraad> sorry, was reading up on the next topic
13:31:12 <liknus> #topic Private FAmSCo meeting for Bangladesh
13:31:32 <liknus> OK we need to resolve the issue discretely...
13:31:32 <gbraad> has a busy schedule so had not seen it before
13:31:47 <liknus> there are some allegations between the community
13:31:58 <gbraad> in that regards; all I can say is the same as you already did.
13:32:01 <gbraad> private meetings
13:32:07 <liknus> (which should not have been adopted or reported so widely, kaio )
13:32:08 <gbraad> and end any rumour now
13:32:27 <liknus> gbraad, totally agreed
13:32:40 <liknus> Shall I set up a meeting on next Wed?
13:32:45 <gbraad> +1
13:33:02 <liknus> or shall we make our next FAmSCo meeting private?
13:33:26 <gbraad> we could it offline in the next meeting
13:33:37 <gbraad> but in that case I would like more people available
13:33:43 <kaio> I thought famsco mailing list is closed.
13:33:49 <liknus> kaio, it is not
13:33:59 <liknus> :(
13:34:15 <gbraad> I do not see any evidence or indication to believe it being true
13:34:25 <liknus> and it should not be.. we just have to be more cautious on what we say
13:34:31 <gbraad> so leave it at this for now and start a conversation off-list
13:34:49 <kaio> liknus, oh... :(
13:35:02 <liknus> I will initiate the discussion off list
13:35:03 <gbraad> if needed, include gbraad@fedoraproject.org
13:35:24 <yn1_v> I think max is right, move this to private and hear form all sides before reaching conclusions
13:35:30 <liknus> #action liknus initiates off list discussion leading to private meeting
13:35:38 <liknus> yn1_v, exactly
13:35:39 <liknus> ok
13:35:46 <liknus> that was the end of our items
13:35:58 <liknus> #topic Open Floor
13:36:10 <liknus> I will end the meeting in 5 mins if we have no more items
13:36:15 <liknus> by the way...
13:36:24 <liknus> our tickets are in great shape :)
13:36:33 <liknus> most if them are trianged
13:36:35 <gbraad> will have a meeting soon in Beijing with some vendors about Fedora participation
13:36:46 <gbraad> s/trianged/triaged
13:36:56 <liknus> gbraad, thanks once again
13:37:16 <liknus> gbraad, Also I would like you to start thinking about a FUDCon China
13:37:20 <liknus> 2011 :)
13:37:32 <gbraad> liknus, please!
13:37:33 <gbraad> :)
13:37:48 <liknus> if FUDCon APAC in India is not possible this year... I would love to have it in China
13:37:50 <gbraad> I hope this could help with adoption of Open Source in general
13:37:56 <liknus> indeed
13:38:02 <liknus> which city are you based?
13:38:06 <gbraad> Beijing
13:38:14 <gbraad> but Shanghai is also possible if needed
13:38:14 <liknus> and the rest of the Fedorians?
13:38:25 <gbraad> scathered over China
13:38:48 <liknus> kaio is from Shanghai?
13:39:06 <gbraad> s/scathered/scattered
13:39:11 <gbraad> kaio is in Brisbane
13:39:22 <liknus> I know.. I am asking his origin
13:39:35 <gbraad> HK AFAIR ;-)
13:40:05 <liknus> ok HR is also a possibility I guess
13:40:20 <liknus> Can you start the discussion on Chinese community gbraad ?
13:40:31 <liknus> (together with kaio of course)
13:40:33 <gbraad> international flights for Chinese. needs a visa... not suitable for most people from China
13:40:52 <gbraad> Shenzhen would be more suitable in that case
13:40:55 <gbraad> but we can discuss this
13:41:25 <liknus> Shenzhen.... and we can tour the factories :P
13:41:31 <kaio> gbraad #action
13:41:33 <gbraad> +1 further discuss on list
13:41:40 <liknus> gbraad, you are the local .. make out the best :)
13:42:02 <liknus> #action gbraad & kaio examine the possibility of FUDCON China 2011
13:42:03 <kaio> gbraad is closer to Chinese culture than me now.
13:42:04 <liknus> ok?
13:42:09 <liknus> hehe
13:42:10 <gbraad> +1
13:42:10 <kaio> ok
13:42:19 <gbraad> I have my wife
13:42:20 <gbraad> ;-)
13:42:25 <gbraad> soon to be ambassador
13:42:35 <liknus> hehe nice :)
13:42:38 <gbraad> @yongyuan
13:42:48 <gbraad> ok, no further info from me
13:43:17 <gbraad> kaio, from the 16th I will have more time again. so let's get the media distribution done ASAP
13:44:31 <liknus> ok ending the meeting
13:44:34 <gbraad> +1
13:44:37 <liknus> thanks all for this meeting :)
13:44:43 <kaio> gbraad, from this week I am having more time again. :)
13:44:44 <gbraad> yn1_v probably dropped
13:44:45 <liknus> see ya around and on the list
13:44:51 <gbraad> thanks
13:45:06 <liknus> #endmeeting