02:02:23 <lcafiero> #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors North America meeting 03-01-11 02:02:23 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Mar 2 02:02:23 2011 UTC. The chair is lcafiero. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 02:02:23 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 02:02:39 <lcafiero> Greetings all. 02:03:08 <pcalarco> done! 02:03:17 <lcafiero> great. 02:03:22 <lcafiero> #topic Announcements 02:03:32 <lcafiero> Anyone with announcements? 02:04:06 <lcafiero> (other than the fact that I won a Palm Pre 2 at SCALE, which I'm beginning to hate . . . .) 02:05:58 <nb> oh we have meeting tonight? 02:06:01 <lcafiero> On the topic of SCALE, I think it was an unqualified success -- about 1800 attendees this year -- and we gave away a lot of disks and swag. 02:06:13 <lcafiero> Um, yeah, nb. It's the first tuesday of the month. 02:06:20 <lcafiero> :-) 02:06:22 <nb> lcafiero, sorry :) 02:06:31 <lcafiero> Not at all. Join in! 02:06:36 <rbergeron> :) 02:06:43 <rbergeron> I didn't know you won a palm pre! 02:06:49 <lcafiero> yeah. 02:07:05 <VileGent> good my luck is rubbing off on others 02:07:10 <lcafiero> I like my smart phones with android and this is palm os 02:07:16 <lcafiero> or web os, I think it's called. 02:07:19 <lcafiero> That's true, VileGent 02:07:34 * lcafiero is not complaining, though. 02:07:44 <lcafiero> Anyway, any other announcements? 02:08:33 <mock> is here a time to mention pycon? 02:08:41 <VileGent> under events 02:08:48 * mock waits for it 02:09:32 <lcafiero> If that's OK with everyone, since the only two events agendized are LFNW and ILF 02:09:46 <lcafiero> Any objections? 02:09:50 <VileGent> nope 02:09:50 <mock> not SXSW? 02:10:04 <mock> oh, that's not us 02:10:12 * inode0 objects if you want someone to object :) 02:10:13 * lcafiero thinks this would be a good time to post the agenda link, no? 02:10:23 <VileGent> yeah why is SXSW on the agenda 02:10:27 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2011-03-01 02:10:36 <lcafiero> oops, sorry, I should have posted that first. 02:10:58 <lcafiero> It's not. 02:11:15 <VileGent> yeah why isnt it 02:11:37 <inode0> cause no one is here to talk about it? 02:11:40 <lcafiero> Good question. 02:11:56 <lcafiero> I think inode0 is right. 02:12:08 <lcafiero> We can take it up under Open Floor if need be. 02:12:13 <VileGent> ok 02:12:29 <lcafiero> But we will add PyCon to the Events portion. 02:12:48 <lcafiero> Well, OK then, any other announcements? 02:13:46 <VileGent> well you tell us you are on FAmSco 02:14:12 <lcafiero> Yes, but I don't think that warrants an announcement. 02:14:28 <lcafiero> Anyway . . . 02:15:04 <lcafiero> pcalarco, would you mind taking ilf first while I find out more about lfnw? 02:15:13 <pcalarco> sure 02:15:15 <lcafiero> #topic Events 02:15:21 <lcafiero> Go ahead, pcalarco 02:15:35 <pcalarco> okay, since last time, I worked up a FAD proposal for ILF 02:15:55 <pcalarco> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD:Fedora_Insight_2011 02:16:10 <lcafiero> thank you, pcalarco -- I was looking for that 02:16:26 <rbergeron> Cool. 02:16:29 <pcalarco> I chatted with stickster a bit about this last week; I am unsure if this is a viable FAD yet 02:17:12 <pcalarco> stickster cannot come to ILF without CommArch funds as his budget is allocated already 02:17:38 <rbergeron> pcalarco: He'd just get subsidized the same way any other participant would. 02:18:04 <pcalarco> the other folk we have working on Fedora Insight are all outside US: tactica, Peter Borsa, Andreas 02:18:37 <pcalarco> if we could focus on this from a content perspective, we could get some marketing team members to participate perhaps 02:18:47 <pcalarco> and get some of them to attend 02:18:57 * rbergeron nods 02:19:06 * rbergeron notes the marketing team is pretty thin lately :( 02:19:20 <pcalarco> rbergeron: that's good news; I will get back with him and ask for airfare estimates 02:19:23 * lcafiero agrees to getting them to attend 02:19:41 <lcafiero> or at least stickster 02:20:13 <rbergeron> pcalarco: Otherwise - I'd say that getting other estimates isn't a bad idea - at least maybe 1 or 2 folks, see how pricey it might be 02:20:22 <lcafiero> agreed 02:20:39 <rbergeron> We're getting pretty close, so doing it sooner = cheaper tickets 02:20:53 <pcalarco> if stickster and I are there, we certainly could get other Fedora community members involved at least serving as a focus group on where FI should develop next 02:21:01 <rbergeron> Maybe a decision can be made by the next FI meeting? 02:21:09 <nb> +1 fund stickster 02:21:19 <VileGent> pcalarco, i have been wanting to help with insight just dont know how i can 02:21:24 <pcalarco> I will write the logistics list and suggest this 02:21:59 <pcalarco> I don't think we need much help with Drupal technical issues quite so much anymore, more focus on content at this point 02:22:04 * rbergeron nods 02:22:23 <rbergeron> And I think it's going to dovetail nicely with all the content coming out of things as we approach f15 release. 02:22:26 <pcalarco> we have a great team with Peter and Andreas and theming with dj_jef and tectica 02:22:56 <pcalarco> rbergeron: yes, agreed 02:23:35 <rbergeron> At this point, I'd say it's probably best to just talk about it on logistics list and come to a head on it over the next few days as to whether or not (a) people can come (b) it's going to be ridiculously expensive to import folks 02:23:36 <pcalarco> VileGent: you have a conflict that weekend, if I remember? 02:24:24 <VileGent> not anymore 02:24:24 <pcalarco> rbergeron: sounds good, I'll do that tomorrow 02:24:49 <pcalarco> VileGent: would you like to come to ILF? We can add you in 02:24:57 <VileGent> sure 02:25:15 <pcalarco> ok, please add yourself to : 02:25:30 <pcalarco> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/ILF_2011 02:25:44 <lcafiero> pcalarco, so what I'm hearing is that you're going to find out if others can make it to ILF and then come back with a new figure? 02:26:00 <lcafiero> others can make it for the fad, that is. 02:26:26 * lcafiero tries to get this in the form of an action to put in the minutes 02:26:31 <rbergeron> I think we'd want the cost for just ILF. 02:26:32 <pcalarco> Yes. since the next FAmNA mtg will be one week from ILF, should we do this on email? 02:26:38 <rbergeron> And then any incremental cost for a FAD. 02:26:43 <lcafiero> I would say yes. 02:26:46 <rbergeron> The ILF cost can be gotten sooner. 02:27:09 <rbergeron> The fad would take probably till next monday (next FI meeting) to be more concrete. 02:27:40 <pcalarco> we'd basically be looking at another $240 hotel plus whatever travel for VileGent 02:27:51 <pcalarco> for ILF base cost 02:28:01 <rbergeron> And just leave some extra buffer in for ILF hotel rooms, so the fad folks can make the most and stay the weekend. 02:28:08 <pcalarco> my estimate is $1303 now 02:28:56 <pcalarco> FAD extras would likely be about $360 for an extra night's hotel room 02:29:12 <lcafiero> I think that's doable. 02:29:22 <pcalarco> VileGent: what's a reasonable estimate for travel for you? 02:29:38 <pcalarco> oh and travel for stickster 02:30:01 <pcalarco> say maybe $700 for both VileGent and stickster? 02:30:26 <VileGent> need airport info 02:30:36 <VileGent> what airport am i flying into 02:30:43 <rbergeron> Travel for stickster would go in a FAD budget, unless he wants to attend ILF regardless. 02:30:44 <pcalarco> Indianapolis 02:30:54 <lcafiero> I think $700 is a good estimate. 02:30:56 <pcalarco> rbergeron: yes 02:31:33 <pcalarco> okay, I will revise and post to logistics, and then follow up on ambassadors list for you folks 02:31:52 <lcafiero> OK, thanks, pcalarco 02:31:59 <pcalarco> sorry this is constantly getting revised 02:32:09 <lcafiero> not at all 02:32:30 <pcalarco> ok, eof thx! 02:32:37 <VileGent> pcalarco, thats what happens when you run events 02:32:47 <lcafiero> #action pcalarco to revise and post ILF numbers and changes to logistics, and then follow up on ambassadors list 02:33:00 <lcafiero> no truer words were spoken VileGent 02:33:12 <lcafiero> Anyway, mock -- want to do PyCon? 02:33:16 <mock> sure 02:33:24 <mock> just a note about pycon this month 02:33:32 <mock> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PyCon_2011 02:33:37 <mock> on events page too 02:33:53 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PyCon_2011 02:34:20 <mock> several are going. it's not a booth-ed event, but neville sent out a query asking who was going. 02:34:41 <mock> dmalcolm has a couple of sessions. his user page and his session page are both linked there. 02:35:19 <mock> if anyone else is going, have them peek at the page. VileGent is sending a box of fedora goodies to toshio to distribute to the few of us to hand out. 02:35:33 <dramsey> +1 02:35:46 <mock> trying to get the few of use to fedora shirt it up on thrs, mar 10 02:36:30 <mock> since this wasn't planned before this week, we'll be doing out ambassador-ing while we mingle. 02:36:58 <mock> that's the summary. other info is on the page or on the pycon site (link on page) 02:37:01 <lcafiero> Sounds good, mock. 02:37:17 <lcafiero> Did you guys get tickets at the early price, or the on-site price? 02:37:43 <mock> i believe most got early pricing. i don't know about the rest, but i'm on the company dime down there. 02:37:53 <inode0> everyone is on the company dime 02:37:57 <lcafiero> heh 02:38:03 <mock> we all work for the man 02:38:22 <lcafiero> OK 02:38:23 <mock> so, no budget matters here other than shipping costs and restocking fees 02:38:43 <lcafiero> Got it. 02:39:18 <mock> that's it from me 02:39:28 <lcafiero> OK, great. Thanks, mock 02:40:07 <lcafiero> If Jeff Sandys here? 02:40:21 * lcafiero looks at Jeff_S . . . . 02:40:32 <lcafiero> Though I know he goes by jsandys normally. 02:40:42 <lcafiero> Anyway, I'll go ahead and do Linux Fest Northwest 02:41:01 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/PyCon_2011 02:41:11 <lcafiero> oops, wrong link -- hang on 02:41:25 <lcafiero> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LinuxFest_Northwest_%28LFNW%29_2011 02:41:30 * mock thanks lcafiero for the extra link love 02:41:35 <lcafiero> Heh. 02:41:39 <lcafiero> Your very welcome 02:41:56 <lcafiero> Jeff Sandys made up this page after the last meeting, I believe, for Linux Fest Northwest. 02:42:06 <lcafiero> It's the weekend of April 30-May1 02:42:09 <lcafiero> May 1 02:42:37 <lcafiero> And now that SCALE is in the rearviews, he and I will be co-owning this one. 02:43:05 <lcafiero> Kevin Higgins, crossbytes, who had done a remarkable job with LFNW in the past can't own it this year due to family responsibilites. 02:43:39 <lcafiero> But Jeff and I will be bringing it up to date soon. 02:44:07 <lcafiero> That's about all there is so far, which admittedly is not much. 02:44:34 <lcafiero> so that's all. 02:45:44 <lcafiero> So next . . . . 02:46:11 <lcafiero> #topic Budget 02:46:52 <pcalarco> ! 02:47:04 <lcafiero> pcalarco? 02:47:33 <pcalarco> what are the logistics for getting airfare covered for events that are approved? 02:47:48 <pcalarco> I'm thibnking forward to ILF 02:48:04 <lcafiero> Right. Can we discuss after the meeting? 02:48:10 <nb> get lcafiero or spevack to do it AFAIK 02:48:11 <pcalarco> sure, thx 02:48:38 <lcafiero> Something like that, though I have to ask spevack, to be sure. 02:49:15 <lcafiero> of course if spevack would like to jump in . . . :-) 02:50:05 <inode0> someone will buy them :) 02:50:41 <lcafiero> Yes, someone with an authorized credit card . . . . 02:50:56 <rbergeron> If stickster is going, that will make it very easy. 02:51:08 <rbergeron> Or spevack can purchase. 02:51:48 <lcafiero> Anyway, I wanted to see how everyone is doing on swag -- I'm set with media, balloons and buttons for LFNW -- and could use shirts and lanyards would be nice. 02:52:01 <VileGent> lol 02:52:12 <lcafiero> nb, VileGent and anyone else with swag -- how are you guys on stuff? 02:52:24 <VileGent> you have a bunch of left over lanyards from Tempe 02:52:35 <lcafiero> Not after SCALE 02:52:37 <VileGent> i have running low on swag 02:52:43 <nb> i'm pretty good but i have lots of events coming up 02:53:20 <lcafiero> Right, nb -- do you have enough media, because I may have extra, plus F15 is right around the corner where LFNW is concerned. 02:53:35 <rbergeron> lcafiero: I think the pens and case badges got eaten up. 02:53:40 <rbergeron> at scale. did they not? 02:53:42 <nb> I have about maybe 1.5 boxes live, .5 of each of the others 02:53:58 <lcafiero> Pens and Case badges I think I'm good with for LFNW -- I didn't bring them all to SCALE. 02:54:10 <nb> maybe a little more than .5 of the dvds, maybe more like .6 or .7 02:54:23 <rbergeron> lcafiero: ahhhhh. 02:54:56 <lcafiero> I thought I had put some lanyards away, but I apparently didn't. 02:55:00 <lcafiero> I admit, sheepishly. 02:55:36 <lcafiero> OK, so you have sxsw and ilf to send swag to, nb? 02:55:42 <lcafiero> and tlf? 02:55:43 <VileGent> pens i have, case badges, shirts and media are gone 02:56:33 <nb> lcafiero, yeah 02:56:54 <lcafiero> Hmmm. You may need more for those three. 02:57:18 <inode0> SXSW is making their own I believe 02:57:26 <lcafiero> Are they, inode0? 02:57:43 <lcafiero> do they need anything else? Pens, balloons, etc.? 02:57:57 <inode0> I think so, they got RHT budget to make special design media if I understood correctly 02:58:07 <lcafiero> Ah, excellent. 02:58:25 <inode0> they probably want some regular media too, as part of the event box 02:58:28 <VileGent> i think we should still send some media to SXSW 02:58:33 <lcafiero> Agreed. 02:58:35 <inode0> if they don't ever come tell us we won't know :) 02:59:09 <lcafiero> #action lcafiero will ping the sxsw folks to see what they need from us, if anything 02:59:14 <lcafiero> I'll ask. 02:59:18 * lcafiero writes that down. 02:59:58 <lcafiero> OK then. nb and VileGent, I may have enough media for lfnw and other requests if need be. 03:00:14 <lcafiero> so let me know if you need any 03:00:18 <nb> lok 03:00:20 <VileGent> i have maybe 100 livecds left 03:00:58 <lcafiero> LFNW comes right at the end of the F14 and right before F15 is released, so there's not a lot of interest in live media. 03:01:09 <lcafiero> OK, then. 03:01:17 <lcafiero> Moving on 03:01:33 <lcafiero> #topic Unfinished business / Open floor 03:02:24 <lcafiero> jsandys, good work on the lfnw wiki -- I talked about lfnw earlier. 03:02:29 <jsandys> opps missed it by an hour 03:02:39 <lcafiero> heh 03:02:45 <inode0> likely story :) 03:03:08 * lcafiero will use that excuse someday. 03:03:11 <jsandys> On vacatin in arizona, painting the in-laws place 03:03:22 <lcafiero> painting on vacation? 03:03:39 <jsandys> I'm married 03:04:13 <jsandys> I'll be at lfnw, please coach me what needs to be done when 03:04:19 <lcafiero> Anyone for unfinished business and/or open floor? 03:04:35 <lcafiero> got you covered, jsandys -- now that scale is done I can focus on that. 03:05:03 <lcafiero> or I could just close the meeting . . . . since we're over an hour at this point. 03:05:11 <jsandys> I'll try to rangle some more booth sitters 03:05:33 <lcafiero> I can help you there. I mentioned earlier that crossbytes can't make it this year. 03:05:57 <lcafiero> I have one presentation to make, but other than that, I'll probably live at the booth 03:06:18 <jsandys> same for me 03:06:46 <lcafiero> Anyone else? 03:06:55 <lcafiero> For an open floor item? 03:07:24 <lcafiero> Speak now, etc. . . . 03:08:00 <lcafiero> Otherwise, I'll just wrap this up in 03:08:02 <lcafiero> 5 03:08:07 <lcafiero> 4 03:08:12 <lcafiero> 3 03:08:22 <lcafiero> two and a half 03:08:28 <lcafiero> 2 03:08:37 <lcafiero> 1 03:08:47 <lcafiero> next meeting on 3-15. See you then. 03:08:51 <lcafiero> #endmeeting