02:00:48 <lcafiero> #startmeeting 1-18-11 FAmNA Meeting
02:00:48 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jan 19 02:00:48 2011 UTC.  The chair is lcafiero. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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02:00:54 <rbergeron> could dgilmore maybe drive there? pcalarco?
02:00:55 <lcafiero> Okay, okay, rbergeron
02:01:04 * rbergeron hugs lcafiero
02:01:06 <rbergeron> I KID
02:01:16 <lcafiero> Heh
02:01:29 <herlo> rbergeron: I was going to say 'START THE GAME ALREADY' like AOE :)
02:01:36 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2011-01-18#Agenda
02:01:44 <lcafiero> That's the agenda
02:02:02 <lcafiero> (at least I didn't say - "okay, let's light this candle")
02:02:22 <lcafiero> first on the agenda
02:02:28 <lcafiero> #topic Announcements
02:02:36 <lcafiero> let 'er rip, folks.
02:02:48 <inode0> freemedia party!
02:03:07 * inode0 is burning his second DVD of the meeting now
02:03:21 <inode0> there are around a dozen waiting, please help me
02:03:27 <lcafiero> link?
02:04:41 <inode0> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Distribution/FreeMedia
02:04:54 <inode0> https://fedorahosted.org/freemedia/
02:05:05 <lcafiero> Ah, good. Thanks, inode0 -- anyone want to help out there, it's a party.
02:05:43 <lcafiero> Also, I am going to take off the SCALE item from the budget section of the agenda since vwbusguy and I are still hashing it out -- we'll be back.
02:05:54 <sthistle> !
02:06:02 <lcafiero> shoot, sthistle
02:06:13 <sthistle> How can I help with the party? Donate? :-)
02:06:32 <lcafiero> inode0, want to field that?
02:06:35 <s3cur17y> I could help some, but I am unable to afford the media..
02:06:57 <inode0> basically we get around 10-15 requests from people in NA each month for media
02:07:11 <inode0> volunteers like us burn and mail it to them to help them out
02:07:46 <lcafiero> And the requests are in one of the links above, true?
02:07:47 <inode0> just a few folks kicking in to help one or two other people each month makes the individual burden very small on each volunteer
02:08:11 <sthistle> ok. So just have the ISOs available, burn to CD/DVD when requested and mail it?
02:08:22 <inode0> this is a very low barrier way to make a contribution to help the fedora community grow
02:08:25 <VileGent> basicly yep
02:08:37 <sthistle> Sounds good.. Will sign up
02:09:21 <lcafiero> OK then.
02:09:31 * lcafiero calls on himself
02:09:40 <lcafiero> Texas Linux Fest call for papers is open
02:10:25 <lcafiero> http://www.texaslinuxfest.org/ <--- for more information
02:10:59 <lcafiero> Any other announcements?
02:11:14 <lcafiero> Going once . . . .
02:11:19 * rbergeron notes that texas linux fest and northeaast linux fest are the same date.
02:11:23 <rbergeron> so don't plan for going to both :)
02:11:37 * mock clones himself
02:11:41 <rbergeron> unless you have a personal jet or something, that is. :)
02:11:53 <lcafiero> Northeast Linux Fest?
02:11:56 <herlo> let's not break the laws of nature, mock
02:12:02 <rbergeron> yes, not northwest, northEAST
02:12:17 <rbergeron> http://www.northeastlinuxfest.org/
02:12:19 <herlo> rbergeron: nelf :)
02:12:19 * lcafiero hadn't heard of that one.
02:12:29 * herlo likes that name
02:12:31 <VileGent> me either
02:12:31 * inode0 starts burning DVD #3 and tries to guilt someone into helping
02:12:37 <lcafiero> OK then, don't go to both. Plenty of geeks to go around, I suppose
02:12:44 * inode0 means get someone to join the PARTY!
02:12:54 * herlo had recently, I think it's the innaugural
02:13:08 <rbergeron> anyway - just casually mentioning that :)
02:13:14 <lcafiero> OK then, something to put on the list then.
02:13:29 <s3cur17y> inode0: I can help, but I can't afford the media to burn.
02:13:57 <s3cur17y> inode0: Would I have to buy the media?
02:13:59 <lcafiero> OK then.
02:14:43 <lcafiero> Any other announcements?
02:14:49 * sthistle signed up for the mailing list (freemedia).
02:15:04 <lcafiero> All righty then, let's move on
02:15:23 <lcafiero> #topic Events Fedora Activity Day at SCALE
02:15:33 <herlo> w00t!
02:15:55 <lcafiero> This will be short because vwbusguy and I have still to determine what the FAD should be.
02:16:01 <herlo> lcafiero: oh, but it has
02:16:03 <lcafiero> Though we have some ideas, and SCALE would like to know.
02:16:10 <lcafiero> and that would be, herlo . . . .
02:16:20 <herlo> at least from vwbusguy's perspective anyway
02:16:29 <herlo> lcafiero: Fedora takes the RHCE prep class...
02:16:44 <lcafiero> Ah.
02:17:02 <herlo> probably do a 3-4 hour prep from whatever we come up with at FUDCon and pitch to RedHat
02:17:06 * lcafiero will bring an apple to the teacher.
02:17:27 <lcafiero> OK, well, then the discussion is probably shorter than I originally thought.
02:17:30 <StabbyMc> Wait a sec.  What are we doing with RHCE?
02:17:47 <herlo> lcafiero: lol, I'm not the teacher, just going to be a helpful mentor while people go through and figure out how to pass the exam...
02:18:06 <herlo> StabbyMc: it's a long story, but essentiall the pitch came from Mchua
02:18:08 <rbergeron> stabby! :)
02:18:09 <lcafiero> Step 1: Open the book. :-)
02:18:21 <StabbyMc> has this been run past rrussell?
02:18:40 <herlo> StabbyMc: no, it's in the infant stages
02:18:59 <herlo> it's not a RHEL course
02:19:04 <StabbyMc> Before we start doing anything publicly, you probably need to get his sign off.
02:19:06 <lcafiero> Well, then, the FAD =might= be RHCE prep class, then.
02:19:10 <StabbyMc> Doesn't matter if it's RHEL or not.
02:19:11 <herlo> StabbyMc: that's in the plan
02:19:28 <herlo> we're not announcing this until we get more informatino at FUDCon next weekend
02:19:34 <StabbyMc> He needs to be in the loop to verify that no exam-specific info is being shared, otherwise some of us put our RHCX at risk.
02:19:40 <herlo> whcih is why it is only being talked about here
02:19:44 <StabbyMc> kk
02:19:50 <herlo> StabbyMc: indeed, and understood
02:19:51 * StabbyMc goes back on lurk.
02:19:54 <lcafiero> OK, then this is still in the discussion phase, so we can just move on to the next topic, one everyone has been waiting for.
02:19:55 <herlo> lol
02:20:14 <lcafiero> for our next topic. . . .
02:20:25 <lcafiero> #topic FUDCon Tempe
02:20:35 <herlo> lcafiero: well, it's the plan unless something comes up that trumps it or it gets removed as not an option.  we're just not announcing anything until it's got some blessing
02:20:49 <lcafiero> OK.
02:20:54 <herlo> but you'll see the conversation start at FUDCon
02:21:12 <lcafiero> Right - I will pass on to SCALE that the subject is TBD
02:21:18 <rbergeron> FUDCon? when is that
02:21:20 <herlo> but that we're close!
02:21:22 <lcafiero> Meanwhile, back at the topic at hand
02:21:26 <herlo> rbergeron: oh, soon, I think
02:21:30 * rbergeron looks at her calendar, i hope i can make it
02:21:31 <lcafiero> Sometime soon.
02:21:38 * rbergeron wonders if everyone has their rooms booked
02:21:41 * rbergeron looks at lcafiero
02:21:43 <lcafiero> rbergeron can tell us ALL ABOUT it :-)
02:21:44 <herlo> rbergeron: I heared this crazy lady is organizing it
02:21:51 <herlo> :P
02:21:59 <rbergeron> FUDCon is very soon. Jan 29-31.
02:22:05 * lcafiero does, but doesn' t know where to put his confirmation information
02:22:06 <rbergeron> If you have anything to send me, DO IT NOW.
02:22:38 <rbergeron> lcafiero: just put a yes in the column on the wiki. lmk where you are sleeping later tonight. :)
02:22:50 <rbergeron> yes, that was a horribly composed sentence.
02:22:51 <rbergeron> sorry
02:23:04 <rbergeron> anyway: If ambassadors want to do anything - please start adding those things NOW to the wiki.
02:23:09 <lcafiero> Right.
02:23:13 <herlo> lol, I thought rbergeron was coming to sleepover or something
02:23:15 <rbergeron> If yo uwnat to organize anything, do it now.
02:23:26 <rbergeron> herlo: *evil stare*
02:23:27 <rbergeron> :)
02:23:34 <herlo> moving on...
02:23:53 <VileGent> rbergeron,  do you want a fedora table set up at the uni or at the hotel
02:24:07 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Tempe_2011
02:24:13 <lcafiero> That's where the info lives.
02:24:28 <rbergeron> vilegent: i don't know. I'm not FUDCon. Do you want a fedora table set up at the uni or hotel? :)
02:24:31 <lcafiero> Funny you should mention that VileGent
02:24:44 <lcafiero> I asked jsmith about that today and it doesn't appear that we're going to have a table
02:24:46 <rbergeron> my concern with the uni is that I don't know if we need a stupid permit or something.
02:24:51 <VileGent> lcafiero,  we brought it up earlier today
02:24:51 <lcafiero> in the expo/trade show sense.
02:25:04 <lcafiero> I asked him in #fedora-fudcon
02:25:29 * rbergeron thinks it would be kind of cool and would be happy to stick rrix on it, lol, to investigate - at least for Monday
02:25:46 <inode0> the whole event is open, there will be tables with people and stuff all over
02:26:17 <lcafiero> OK, well then, I guess there's going to have to be further discussion on this.
02:26:43 <rbergeron> lcafiero: send a mail to the fudcon-planning list.
02:26:46 <rbergeron> Or someone.
02:26:51 <rbergeron> Just not me. I have enough fudcon things to deal with atm. :)
02:26:57 <lcafiero> No doubt
02:26:59 * rbergeron shirks all responsibility for anything else.
02:27:00 <rbergeron> :)
02:27:39 <VileGent> rbergeron,  we can set a table up, you point and tell us where it will happen period
02:27:43 <lcafiero> #action lcafiero will ask the fudcon mailing list about the status, if any, of a table
02:27:58 <rbergeron> vilegent: and I can probably acquire a table from my mom if need be.
02:28:07 <lcafiero> The hotel should have one.
02:29:20 <rbergeron> Well, i don't know if they'd, say, let us take it to campus or something like that.
02:29:24 <VileGent> my event box will be on the truck tomorrow night
02:29:26 <rbergeron> Anyway - we'll figure it out.
02:29:31 <lcafiero> That we will
02:29:34 <lcafiero> OK then
02:30:04 * inode0 starts burning DVD #4
02:30:06 <VileGent> scheduled to be delivered to the hotel on the 26th
02:30:17 <lcafiero> Can we move forward, or is there anything we need to discuss further on FUDCon?
02:30:18 <rbergeron> vilegent: cool.
02:30:56 <herlo> forward!
02:31:14 <lcafiero> OK then
02:31:27 <lcafiero> #topic Budget Review
02:31:29 <VileGent> rbergeron,  i land the same day so if you need help let me know
02:31:48 <lcafiero> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_budget
02:31:55 <rbergeron> will do.
02:32:13 <lcafiero> To NA we should add $1224 for the vertical banners for WC and Canada
02:32:33 <lcafiero> But I think that's the only change here.
02:32:46 <rbergeron> We'll be adding some for scale, also.
02:33:04 <rbergeron> once it's sorted out. :)
02:33:13 <lcafiero> right. That has yet to be determined and, as I mentioned in announcements, the item about SCALE budget has been withdrawn.
02:33:36 <lcafiero> We'll bring it back for the next meeting.
02:33:57 * rbergeron nods
02:34:33 <lcafiero> Anything we need?
02:35:42 <lcafiero> Guess not. OK then.
02:35:54 <lcafiero> Moving on.
02:35:56 <nb> there was some mention of geting atom netbooks for the event boxes
02:36:03 <lcafiero> Ah, that's right.
02:36:14 <nb> not sure if we were agendizing it for the meeting or each of us were just going to do it per the <500 approval
02:36:25 * sthistle has an AAO 110.. bad SSD but works on USB.. Welcome to it.
02:36:54 <lcafiero> Heh. Does it work well with Fedora? That seems to be the issue -- the HPs take a lot of tweaking, apparently.
02:37:11 <sthistle> Worked fine for me.. Wireless and everything..
02:37:12 * nb likes his asus, it works great with fedora, no tweaking
02:37:19 <lcafiero> it wasn't agendized, nb, but we can discuss.
02:37:24 <nb> lcafiero, k
02:37:25 <s3cur17y> I Eee Pc 900A works with Fedora
02:37:37 * nb has eee pc 1001p
02:37:40 <s3cur17y> i = my
02:37:50 <sthistle> It has excellent battery.. 1GB.. just the SSD died or something. Cannot get replacement in Canada for it.
02:37:51 <lcafiero> inode0 had a lot to say about this last week, I believe.
02:38:00 * inode0 doesn't care about atom or whatever - just whatever works great with Fedora so we aren't embarrassed to boot up in front of someone at a booth, ok?
02:38:12 <lcafiero> right.
02:38:52 <sthistle> I can just send it to someone. If it works, keep it.. If not, toss it. I will probably not be at any of the shows in the US.
02:38:57 <s3cur17y> sthistle: I have an extra big whopping 4gb ssd mini pci. If you would like it
02:39:34 <herlo> lcafiero: I setup the HP in the WC event box. I don't recall it being that difficult, but if a netbook is preferred, let's do something with the HPs that's useful :)
02:39:46 <sthistle> s3cur17y, sure.. send it and I can try to install it..
02:39:55 <s3cur17y> ok.
02:40:03 <inode0> herlo: can you boot a live image and have wireless work?
02:40:22 <lcafiero> Right, and I've never had a problem or an embarrassing moment with the WC hp mini, but others' mileage may vary.
02:40:25 <inode0> how about plymouth? or do we want people seeing the little progress bar instead?
02:40:46 <herlo> inode0: dunno, haven'
02:40:48 <nb> http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-1001PXD-MU17-BK-10-1-Inch-Netbook-Black/dp/B004AWEZ82/ref=sr_ob_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1295404712&sr=8-1 is an idea
02:40:51 <herlo> tried
02:40:57 <nb> its about 289
02:40:59 <inode0> none of that works
02:41:05 <herlo> k
02:41:09 * herlo isn't arguing
02:41:15 <sthistle> s3cur17y, Will drop you a note offline..
02:41:17 <inode0> we can function with the limitations - showing it off doesn't impress anyone
02:41:18 <herlo> just saying we should do something useful with the HP's
02:41:35 <herlo> like give them away as a thank you or something
02:41:38 <s3cur17y> Just be careful of the netbooks with the clickpads
02:41:41 * herlo notes he doesn't mean himself...
02:41:47 <s3cur17y> sthistle: ok.
02:42:08 * inode0 just thinks it is ridiculous we don't have hardware that *really* makes Fedora look its best
02:42:47 <nb> inode0, +1
02:42:51 <lcafiero> Good point.
02:42:52 <VileGent> lcafiero,  they are getting slow
02:44:06 <lcafiero> OK. I haven't noticed but, to be honest, i turn it on face it away from me at the table and never look at it.
02:44:12 <s3cur17y> If you don't mind me putting my two cents in, look at some of the gamers.  Show them that WoW, CS and other high end games work great with fedora
02:44:38 <VileGent> s3cur17y,  most event no network
02:44:43 <lcafiero> that would probably require more than a netbook.
02:44:56 <s3cur17y> Counter Strike can do Lan i think
02:45:06 <s3cur17y> true
02:45:15 * inode0 thinks we can afford more than a netbook and perhaps should consider it
02:45:22 <herlo> bring them to FUDCon...
02:45:34 <herlo> the HP's, that is
02:45:52 <herlo> let's get 'em reinstalled, if nothing else
02:45:53 <VileGent> they are coming and i will be bringing my acer 10" as well
02:45:55 <lcafiero> The WC mini is already there :-)
02:46:08 <herlo> :)
02:46:08 <VileGent> and mine is installed with f14
02:46:15 <sthistle> I have a Gateway laptop that runs great. Only 399.. And that is CDN.
02:46:19 * dmaxel arrived, finally.
02:47:09 <VileGent> i think for the event box we really need something with a 14+ screen
02:47:12 <s3cur17y> I would lend my Eee with F14 and a custom kernel, which boots in 8 sec
02:47:34 <lcafiero> #action reinstall F14 on netbooks at FUDCon and explore which hardware displays Fedora best for purchase for the event boxes
02:47:59 <lcafiero> I guess that would cover it.
02:48:11 <lcafiero> OK then
02:48:16 <lcafiero> Anything further on this?
02:49:37 <lcafiero> Going once . . .
02:49:47 <lcafiero> twice
02:49:58 <lcafiero> #topic Unfinished business/Open Floor
02:50:55 <nb> Central event box should be up and going by the time of ILF
02:51:03 <lcafiero> +1 :-)
02:51:09 <lcafiero> Excellent
02:51:15 <nb> i have the major things, just need to get a couple other things like a router and power strip and extension cord, etc
02:51:29 * nb was going by the list on the wiki
02:51:57 <lcafiero> I may have some of that at my office to give you. Let me check and get back to you on list/on channel
02:52:02 <nb> lcafiero, ok
02:52:43 <rbergeron> nb: that's actually called a "fedora friend finder"
02:52:51 <rbergeron> (power strip)
02:52:54 <lcafiero> Heh
02:53:02 * lcafiero forgot, but rbergeron is right
02:53:15 * inode0 burns DVD #5 - join the party, it will be going all night
02:53:26 <VileGent> nb http://www.walmart.com/ip/Belkin-N-150-Wireless-Router/11060711
02:53:32 <lcafiero> Join inode0's party before all the donuts are gone.
02:53:59 * inode0 will run out of donuts before he does all of them, really needs help
02:54:32 <sthistle> inode0, How can I help? Really would like to.. Signed up for the mailing list.. Not sure where else from here :D
02:54:50 <lcafiero> I'd like to introduce s3cur17y -- a new ambassador approved today.
02:55:10 <lcafiero> From Ohio -- trying to get him to ILF and will DEFINITELY get him to OLF :-)
02:55:21 <inode0> sthistle: login to trac and see if you can grab a ticket?!
02:55:30 <inode0> might need to wait until you get approved
02:55:40 <sthistle> will do.
02:55:52 <sthistle> oh.. some activity on cossfest mailing list.
02:55:58 <s3cur17y> :)
02:56:08 <lcafiero> Really? Oh my god, it's alive!
02:56:09 <s3cur17y> Already talked to the wife about both of them..
02:56:12 <sthistle> mostly related to domain renewals.. at least someone who might know something
02:56:41 <lcafiero> Good. Keep an eye on that, sthistle, if you would please.
02:57:26 <lcafiero> Glad to hear that, s3cur17y -- you can also mention that it's a good place to network for a job :-)
02:57:49 <s3cur17y> yeah that was part of the plan
02:58:02 <VileGent> so good i will have booth help at OLF
02:58:30 <lcafiero> Any other announcements?
02:58:37 <lcafiero> Old business?
02:58:37 <VileGent> s3cur17y,  bring your wife and mine will drag her off  yarn shopping
02:58:42 <lcafiero> Open floorage?
02:58:47 <s3cur17y> :)
02:58:50 <lcafiero> heh
02:59:25 <lcafiero> OK, it looks like we can bring this in at under an hour
02:59:39 <lcafiero> then we can all go help inode0 burn some DVDs
03:00:12 <lcafiero> Hearing no further open floor
03:00:16 <lcafiero> items . . .
03:00:22 <lcafiero> Wrapping up in 5
03:00:24 <lcafiero> 4
03:00:26 <lcafiero> 3
03:00:40 <lcafiero> 2
03:00:42 <lcafiero> 1.5
03:00:45 * inode0 would love to clean the queue tonight
03:00:48 <lcafiero> 1
03:00:51 <lcafiero> 0.5
03:01:01 <lcafiero> let's burn, folks
03:01:04 <lcafiero> #endmeeting