04:00:45 #startmeeting APAC meeting 2011-01-01 04:00:45 Meeting started Sat Jan 1 04:00:45 2011 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:00:45 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:00:49 .fas dramsey 04:00:50 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:01:05 .fas arifiauo 04:01:06 arifiauo: arifiauo 'Arif Tri Waluyo' 04:01:13 .fas harishpillay 04:01:14 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2011-01-01#Agenda 04:01:14 harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' 04:01:31 #chair harish arifiauo 04:01:31 Current chairs: arifiauo dramsey harish 04:01:34 Hello Everyone 04:01:37 Happy New Year 04:01:47 greetings! 04:01:47 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:01:54 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:02:10 Cheers :) 04:02:18 Any news from anyone? 04:02:24 let me start 04:02:30 I am doing Fedora 14 distribution tomorrow. 04:02:33 Yes, let us start 04:02:34 :) 04:02:42 i attended the FOSS.in in Bangalore. 04:02:49 There was a Fedora miniconf there 04:02:50 How was that? 04:02:55 and I think it was well run. 04:03:08 FOSS.in fantastic! 04:03:15 we could have had more participants, but then again, there would have been a space constraint. 04:03:27 great! 04:03:36 i had planned on running a gpg keysigning but only had one person sign up 04:03:39 so I have to can it. 04:03:53 i then went on to another event in hyderabad 04:04:08 called the national convention for academics and researchers (ncar). 04:04:32 it was organized by the Free Software Movement of india (www.fsmi.org.in) and was an interesting event. 04:04:40 oh 04:04:41 i presented about POSSE and open source collaboration. 04:04:48 I went to the #fedora-apac 04:04:49 kaio, greetings. 04:04:57 kaio, greetings 04:04:57 harish☺ hi 04:05:01 .fasinfo kaio 04:05:02 kaio: User: kaio, Name: Caius Chance, email: me@kaio.net, Creation: 2008-09-10, IRC Nick: kaio, Timezone: Australia/Brisbane, Locale: en, Extension: 5114286, GPG key ID: 17BEFCFA, Status: active 04:05:03 dramsey☺ hi 04:05:06 kaio: Unapproved Groups: art 04:05:10 kaio: Approved Groups: freemedia cvsl10n famsco cla_fedora cla_done fedorabugs hgflies packager cla_redhat ambassadors l10n-commits @packager-zh 04:05:16 #chair kaio 04:05:16 Current chairs: arifiauo dramsey harish kaio 04:05:39 i have blogged about the two events as well - harishpillay.wordpress.com. 04:06:02 there is very strong interest to run a POSSE in India at the West Bengal State University. 04:06:31 Interesting 04:06:32 the vice chancellor of the WBSU attended NCAR and he was very keen to have it held there. We will have to see what can be done. 04:06:52 Sounds grand! 04:07:17 the next scheduled POSSE is in Manila in March I believe. 04:07:53 azneita, will be reviewing our logs and may provide input for Manila as well. 04:08:09 here's my presentation at NCAR _ http://www.scribd.com/doc/45863434/Talk-at-NCAR-2010-Hyderabad-India 04:08:47 tuanta, welcome! 04:08:48 tuanta, greetings 04:08:51 .fas tuanta 04:08:51 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:08:53 hi all 04:09:02 tuanta☺ hi 04:09:06 I am a bit late :) 04:09:07 Hi tuanta :) 04:09:12 sorry 04:09:19 It's ok 04:09:27 No problem, we are reviewing, always to have people is nice 04:09:27 hoping to see azneita show up. 04:09:30 my friends, where are we going on? 04:09:55 Tuan, just review of things, harish just provided information on his latest 04:10:07 presentation at http://www.scribd.com/doc/45863434/Talk-at-NCAR-2010-Hyderabad-India 04:10:24 cool 04:11:03 Other information? 04:11:37 Tomorrow is Akihabara with Fedora 14 for me. 04:11:52 excellent, david. 04:11:55 a few more updates: 04:12:00 Please! 04:12:18 I will be in Beijing Jan 9-15. Hoping to meet Fedora CN folks 04:12:37 i will also be 04:12:57 attending the sanog.org event in Sri Lanka and speaking about Fedora/Virt/cloud Jan 17/18. 04:13:39 my last bit for Jan is to be at FUDCon, Tempe. Was planning on LCA, but had to weigh the two event which were essentially back to back. 04:13:45 and across an ocean. 04:14:06 that's it from me. 04:14:30 Great stuff! 04:14:42 #idea kaio can send msg on chinese@lists.fedoraproject.org for harish's visit 04:14:57 Wonders if kaio...yes, I was thinking something like that 04:15:04 dramsey☺ okay 04:15:05 Perfect! 04:15:24 thanks. 04:15:28 +1 04:15:51 arifiauo, kaio, tuanta, information / news? 04:16:34 harish's user page is very simple. :P 04:16:54 kaio, yes it is. 04:17:01 Meeting still on I hope? 04:17:10 Hello FranciscoD 04:17:16 fraggle_☺ still 04:17:19 Hi FranciscoD :) 04:17:28 FranciscoD, welcome. 04:17:28 arifiauo: hello :) 04:17:31 Hi FranciscoD 04:17:32 .fas 04:17:34 .fas FranciscoD 04:17:56 FranciscoD, we are reviewing information. 04:17:59 * FranciscoD scratches head : clearly I've been off IRC too long 04:18:12 dramsey: please proceed, I'm only in watching mode today :) 04:18:21 #chair tuanta FranciscoD 04:18:21 Current chairs: FranciscoD arifiauo dramsey harish kaio tuanta 04:18:42 FranciscoD: (fas ) -- Search the Fedora Account System usernames, full names, and email addresses for a match. 04:18:46 FranciscoD: ankursinha 'Ankur Sinha' 04:19:28 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 04:20:04 Any news? 04:20:21 kaio, any news from FAmSCo? 04:22:12 Next topic? 04:22:16 dramsey☺ we have this week and last week no meetings, but progresses are still ongoing. 04:22:24 Oh, okay... 04:22:31 Understood. 04:22:43 on the last meeting we have assigned tasks on wiki pages that needlove 04:23:01 Sounds like an action/idea! 04:23:56 #idea assigned tasks on wiki pages need some love 04:23:58 :) 04:24:06 Larry had taken the budget manager position, and I am appointed as vice-chairperson to help with meetings and wiki and tickets. 04:25:34 Good, other news? 04:25:50 kaio, good that you have taken that task. i have difficulty using the trac and need help. 04:26:11 i can't seem to log in into trac 04:26:13 I am clueless on trac and definitely need help, too 04:26:32 harish☺ trac is less user friendly, esp if you are a long time bugzilla user. 04:26:33 harish: you need to be a member of the required group for trac perms 04:26:55 FranciscoD, i see. and i will need to request for that then. 04:26:55 ( for example freemedia group to have perms to the freemedia trac ) 04:27:09 i have some stuff assigned to me on trac and need to resolve it. 04:27:13 I prefer bugzilla tô 04:27:19 harish☺ seems need help from fedora-admin to get that sorted out for you 04:27:46 kaio, willco 04:27:55 np 04:28:32 harish☺ do you have a profile page so I can put the url when I send msg to chinese mailing list about your visit? 04:29:44 kaio, i guess I should update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Harishpillay 04:30:07 eh theres meeting? 04:30:14 .fas izhar 04:30:15 Hello KageSenshi 04:30:15 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 04:30:15 you must do that :) 04:30:17 KageSenshi, welcome 04:30:17 the organizer of last beijing meet up, liuhongdan is moved to SG 04:30:34 Hi KageSenshi :) 04:30:35 hi dramsey harish :) 04:30:37 hi arifiauo 04:30:43 you must do that, Harish, the current one is too simple :) 04:31:00 harish☺ let me know when you updated your user page, then I send the msg timely thx 04:31:39 tuanta☺ may be harish is too humble to list his great contributions 04:31:43 :P 04:32:03 +1, kiao :) 04:32:18 s/kaio 04:33:13 Great, other thoughts or next topics? 04:33:41 next topics :) 04:34:04 Okay. 04:34:12 harish☺ I hope you will continue build up the bridge with community. The gap between Fedora community in China and RH is still quite wide. 04:34:12 #topic FAD brisbane + LCA 04:34:57 * kaio is wondering whether gbraad_ is confirmed his trip to Brisbane. 04:35:26 * kaio have not approved entry fee for LCA yet also. 04:35:48 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/109 < no news on this ticket for me :( 04:36:22 kaio, I was wondering if gbraad was going to the Tempe 2011...https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Tempe_2011 04:36:30 His name is listed on #126 04:36:34 AFAIK many tech groups in Brisbane/Gold Coast aware the LCA and we just need to let them know our (Fedora) booth in the open day and FAD via their mailing list. 04:36:54 Great idea, kaio! 04:36:55 :) 04:37:12 dramsey☺ yeah he said he wants to attend both, but I am unsure about the details 04:37:20 Ah, understood. 04:37:48 KageSenshi, is there someone we should inquire for you or make an idea / action for this meeting's logs? 04:38:23 you mean? for #109? .. not sure 04:38:26 FYI, LCA has its anti-harassment policies, which there was a topic on fam mailing list about our potential needs on that 04:38:58 KageSenshi, yes 04:39:01 dramsey, mspevack probably .. but i'm not sure 04:39:02 kaio, that is news 04:39:35 #idea ping about (13:35:47) KageSenshi: https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/109 regarding update for KageSenshi's planning 04:39:41 #idea kaio is interested to observe if such anti-harassment policies of LCA is effective by attending the event 04:40:26 kaio, what is anti-harrassment policies about? 04:41:18 dramsey☺ you can check out the conversation in fam list, that every attendant should respect each others 04:41:27 too hard to explain everything here :) 04:41:43 okay, I will, thank you 04:41:53 Other thoughts or next topics? 04:41:57 I know this 04:42:08 ok, next 04:42:27 +1 04:42:32 dramsey☺ someone has bad exp by their sex, appearance, background, and worst cases were sexual-assaulted 04:42:52 That's bad... 04:42:52 hi lcafiero 04:42:55 hi lcafioer 04:43:01 Hi lcafiero :) 04:43:05 s/lcafioer/lcafiero 04:43:20 kaio, updated my page: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:HarishPillay 04:43:55 dramsey☺ I believe most of Fedora people are good! But we may need to think about extreme worst cases. 04:44:11 +1 04:44:12 Understood, kaio and plan accordingly 04:44:32 harish☺ cool, very informative now. :) 04:45:10 +1 04:45:46 +1 04:47:42 Other thoughts or next topic? 04:48:56 next 04:49:20 next i guess 04:50:18 Found a reference to the harassment at URL - http://rusty.ozlabs.org/?p=172 04:50:20 #topic APAC plans 04:50:34 Any needs from anyone? 04:50:57 #chair lcafiero 04:50:57 Current chairs: FranciscoD arifiauo dramsey harish kaio lcafiero tuanta 04:51:06 #chair KageSenshi 04:51:06 Current chairs: FranciscoD KageSenshi arifiauo dramsey harish kaio lcafiero tuanta 04:51:14 i would like to suggest that whoever is attending LCA to participate in the GPG key signing as well. 04:51:43 Great idea, harish! 04:51:45 +1 04:51:48 +1 04:51:49 +1 04:52:11 #idea suggest that whoever is attending LCA to participate in the GPG key signing 04:52:40 i would like to see 2011 be an active period where we have GPG key signing events as standard part of all Fedora events. It helps push the message. 04:53:06 A grand idea and message indeed! 04:53:14 +1 04:53:21 +1 04:53:22 +1 04:53:24 +1 04:54:05 it is easy to run and we could use my page (adopted from mdomsch) as well as the one that LCA is using. 04:55:27 Fantastic! Other ideas/thoughts? 04:55:41 for ones who would like to know more how to organize a key signing party, please visit: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/gnupg/signingparty/ 04:55:49 +1 04:56:00 Nice! 04:56:35 +10 04:56:40 s/0// 04:57:58 :D 04:59:03 guys, i need to sign out - going to mom's place for lunch. 04:59:12 Thank you, harish! 04:59:14 :) 04:59:23 harish, happy new year :) 04:59:24 Bye harish :) 04:59:28 Other thoughts or next topic? 04:59:35 next topic please 04:59:50 #topic Classrooms for APAC 05:00:17 #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/chinese/2011-January/004983.html 05:00:50 dramsey☺ what kind of knowledge will be taught in the classrooms?] 05:01:18 Something that FransciscoD had written, I am not sure 05:01:40 start from beginner class maybe? 05:02:06 Sounds like an idea, arifiauo 05:02:40 looks like my queue 05:02:41 ;) 05:03:14 fedora-classrooms already holds plenty of classrooms for fedora contributors 05:03:42 the idea was to start something APAC specific (or it can also be done in the fedora-classrooms, the topics will be APAC specific) 05:04:17 we havent really decided what topics the classrooms will cover : it's a highly unbaked idea 05:04:26 * FranciscoD waits for comments 05:05:01 * KageSenshi wondering what kind of topics are apac specific 05:05:49 non-technical? 05:06:17 yes, can be both 05:06:55 or we periodically ask apac folks for what they want, and take classrooms on that : which anyone can attend of course 05:07:12 ok 05:07:45 its basically the same thing as the fedora community classrooms, i guess we'll pay a *little* more attention to apac needs 05:07:56 FransciscoD, with meetings in the #fedora-classroom or something like that? 05:08:03 dramsey: yes 05:08:07 sounds ok to me .. 05:08:18 they already hold class rooms, loads of them 05:08:23 packaging, translation etc etc 05:09:03 one important thing will be that the timings will be better suited to APAC 05:09:17 * FranciscoD cant attend half of the current classrooms because they're at 3 am! 05:09:27 And the mailman notices start coming in . . . . 05:09:28 haha :) 05:09:28 https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/classroom 05:10:58 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Communicate/IRC/Classroom 05:11:55 Cool, other information and ideas? 05:14:19 so we agree to use an existing class? 05:14:26 +1 05:15:54 ok, next 05:16:13 #open Open Floor 05:17:04 #topic Open Floor 05:17:43 My carry on thought for training was something which was discussed by the Fedora Ambassadors North America about Red Hat Training for their Ambassadors... 05:17:54 I think may be an idea to consider for APAC. 05:17:57 What do you think? 05:18:49 RH training as in marketing training? 05:19:52 KageSenshi, good question. I think that the Fedora Ambassadors North America were considering classwork for their Ambassadors. The marketing training has potential and may be an idea to consider as well, if you are interested in proposing 05:20:04 No, there had been discussion about RH training for test taking. 05:20:08 In NA. 05:20:23 what test ? 05:20:47 The one that replaced the RHCT and the RHCE. 05:20:51 ah 05:21:20 I think RHCT is now something like RHCSA or something like that, with the SA meaning systems admin 05:21:34 RHCSA? 05:21:36 not sure how that relates to ambassadors :) but cool :) 05:21:46 aiming for what? 05:22:29 Like http://sandro-mathys.ch/2010/05/25/rhce-of-the-year-2010-for-europe 05:22:38 It doesn't exactly, but it does make some of those who wish to pursue it more knowledgeable about fedora and RH. 05:22:43 Sandro Mathys and John Rose as RHCE of the year 05:22:50 right 05:22:51 Right. Both Ambassadors. 05:22:58 :-) 05:23:27 It's not for everyone - only those who are interested in studying and taking the test(s) 05:23:59 Good points lcafiero! :D 05:24:00 I'm interest :) 05:24:02 John Rose - http://www.redhat.com/certification/rhce/success_stories/stories/jrose.html 05:24:21 aka inode0 05:24:46 +1 05:25:25 :) 05:25:26 +1 05:26:58 That's it from me. 05:27:05 Other ideas? 05:27:34 eat roast? 05:27:38 ;) 05:27:42 Maybe it's time to conclude this meeting? 05:27:54 End meeting? 05:27:55 guess so 05:28:19 Thank you all for attending and a great Happy New Year! 05:28:23 happy new year all :) 05:28:30 +2011 05:28:37 Good day everyone :) 05:28:40 Sending positive Fedora 14 and 15 energy to your computers now! :) 05:28:41 5 05:28:42 4 05:28:43 3 05:28:43 2 05:28:44 1 05:28:46 0.5 05:28:48 bye 05:28:50 #endmeeting