04:01:18 #startmeeting APAC meeting 2010-12-18 04:01:18 Meeting started Sat Dec 18 04:01:18 2010 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 04:01:18 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 04:01:25 .fas tuanta 04:01:25 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 04:01:26 #meetingname APAC 04:01:26 The meeting name has been set to 'apac' 04:01:29 .fas dramsey 04:01:30 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 04:01:35 .fas azneita 04:01:35 azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' 04:01:38 .fas artg 04:01:42 #chair dramsey azneita tuanta asmartgoat 04:01:42 Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita dramsey tuanta 04:01:44 asmartgoat: xmartgroup 'Juan Pablo Garzon Talero' - asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' - johnhartgraves83 'John Hartgraves' - artgibbens 'Art Gibbens' - mhartgring 'Marco Hartgring' 04:01:51 didn't work 04:01:56 :) 04:01:57 .fas asmartgoat 04:01:57 asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' 04:02:11 it works fine now :) 04:02:35 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-12-18#Agenda 04:02:48 maktrix 'Mahay Alam Khan' 04:02:58 #topic Ambassador Pinging 04:03:03 Welcome Everyone 04:03:05 #topic News from FAmSCo 04:03:17 .fas maktrix 04:03:17 tuanta: mak 'Mahay Alam Khan' 04:03:29 hi 04:03:34 hi, kaio 04:03:36 Hi Kaio 04:03:37 new meeting time? 04:03:38 tuanta☺ hi 04:03:43 SAT only +P 04:03:43 hi kaio 04:03:43 you are in time today :) 04:03:45 good timing kaio 04:03:45 hi 04:03:47 Any news from FAmSCo? 04:03:48 ha 04:03:49 great to see you all today 04:03:52 didn't you get the memo :) 4:00UTC :) 04:03:52 I am just in front of p 04:03:54 pc 04:04:20 do we have any news? 04:04:28 I will remember XD 04:04:47 yes 04:05:00 we have some FAmSCo members here 04:05:00 * azneita eagerly waits 04:05:12 Cheryn (RH) got some freebies for LCA+FAD 04:05:41 yes, she has got money from RH to spend on swag! 04:05:43 for media I have to get the aamount we want 04:05:50 hi all 04:05:55 sorry for being late 04:05:56 hi bckurera 04:06:00 but this again relied on the attendants which I have not confirmed from local LUG 04:06:02 hi 04:06:06 (or tech group) 04:06:08 is meeting over? 04:06:10 bckurera☺ hi 04:06:12 kaio, i've had a chat to harish, i just need to tell him the number of media required 04:06:15 just started 04:06:15 bckurera☺ yes it is over :P 04:06:25 its just began! 04:06:26 lol 04:06:26 :) 04:06:32 .fas bckurera 04:06:33 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 04:06:38 asmartgoat☺ yes this is what I have no idea about how many is enough 04:06:45 .fas kaio 04:06:45 kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance' 04:06:52 hello everyone 04:06:53 we'll bring it up later 04:06:55 :) 04:07:00 +1 04:07:17 asmartgoat☺ :) 04:07:34 #info cheryn (rh) got some freebies for LCA+FAD 04:08:03 #info harish needs final number for media production 04:08:05 luke should we forward the list of freebies to mailing list? 04:08:06 Do we have a guesstimate of media for Harish? 04:08:28 dramsey☺ I dont even know how many people will be at conference 04:08:33 LCA 04:08:43 kaio, understood 04:08:43 we'll have to talk about that with cheryn 04:08:45 for the FAD, Fedora people will be like 10 04:08:54 asmartgoat☺ yes agree 04:09:02 #action Asmartgoat: talk to cheryn about amount of media required 04:09:13 #undo 04:09:13 Removing item from minutes: 04:09:18 #action Asmartgoat: talk to cheryn about amount of media required for LCA 04:09:31 :) 04:09:48 So Cheryn will help with freebies and Harish with media? 04:10:02 yes. :) 04:10:03 i'm not sure about openday attendance but i heard 500+ attendees for lca itself 04:10:27 Good 04:10:37 * azneita just overheard dgilmore and NA folks taking it up 04:10:55 what about crating more media and make it available for Am. 04:10:57 * dgilmore peeks in 04:11:02 * tuanta wish can attend LCA+FAD :) 04:11:04 i think still no one have F14 media 04:11:13 Sounds like azneita kaio and others will need to meet up with dgilmore 04:11:16 Hi dgilmore 04:11:21 hi dramsey 04:11:34 .fas dgilmore 04:11:34 tuanta: ausil 'Dennis Gilmore' - ausilfasclient 'Dennis Gilmore' 04:11:41 dgilmore, LCA attendees - 500+? 04:11:42 #info harish says that media will be ready starting next year 04:11:48 just to inform, I've produced F14 media localy in Bangladesh. 04:11:56 hi dgilmore 04:11:59 i was told media was being shipped to RH brisbane y harish 04:12:01 u new to me 04:12:04 good job maktrix 04:12:12 excellent news dgilmore 04:12:27 dgilmore: yes, we are trying to find out how much media we need though 04:12:28 yup 04:12:36 asmartgoat: ok 04:12:53 asmartgoat: i suggest you get a little more than you think will be needed for lca 04:13:00 great news, dgilmore 04:13:09 that way it can be taken home by people to be handed out at local events 04:13:09 maktrix great 04:13:18 maktrix < how about the cost 04:13:23 yes, we will get an amount for kaio me and azneita and who else amb comes that doesnt have media 04:13:40 Unused media may be used for future Australian / APAC events 04:13:49 #action asmartgoat to get extra media for kaio, himself and azneita also other confirmed ambassador attendees 04:13:54 do 1k seems sufficient? 04:13:58 bckurera: it's 30 Bangladesh Taka per DVD 04:14:08 #info maktri - produced F14 media localy in Bangladesh. 04:14:08 * azneita just floating a number 04:14:13 ohh its DVD cool 04:14:17 in USD pls 04:14:25 1 US$ = approx. 70 BDT 04:14:48 so ~40c a dvd 04:14:48 bckurera: let me check the rate and calculate 04:15:02 about 0.5 USD? 04:15:03 try rate calculations at www.xe.com 04:15:03 its ok i got the idea thanks maktrix 04:15:44 can we change topic please, dramsey? 04:15:48 onething what is the topic now 04:15:57 xe.com says 30.00 BDT = 0.425532 USD 04:15:57 are we still in FAmSCo news? 04:15:58 famsco :) 04:16:01 news from famsco :) 04:16:08 Are we ready to move onward? 04:16:15 +1 04:16:16 Sure, asmartgoat, we all have the chairs 04:16:16 one thing 04:16:17 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 04:16:19 we have already moved :) 04:16:25 the price is high 04:16:48 per DVD cost is around .3 USD in bulk 04:16:52 shall we go by events on the list? 04:17:11 #topic FOSSin_2010 04:17:12 bckurera: we have only one / two produced in Bangladesh 04:17:24 ahh then ok :) 04:17:25 maktrix, is your media printed? with sleeves? 04:17:28 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FOSSin_2010 is now 04:17:43 asmartgoat: media is printed without sleeves 04:17:50 it's owned by mether 04:17:53 ok. 04:18:16 and it just happened :) 04:18:51 reports should be coming in the next few days 04:19:01 let's move along? 04:19:44 Sure 04:19:45 #topic FAD SL 2011 04:19:50 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 04:19:55 Day one report is here http://harishpillay.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/foss-in-day-1-and-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-launch/ 04:20:04 ohh nice 04:20:07 #info day 1 report by harish for FOSSin is here 04:20:09 #link http://harishpillay.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/foss-in-day-1-and-red-hat-enterprise-linux-6-launch/ 04:20:15 i have some updates 04:20:27 * asmartgoat loves updates. :) 04:20:31 +1 04:20:34 we set a date in march 1st weel 04:20:37 week* 04:20:41 Fantastic 04:20:50 great! 04:20:50 +1 04:20:52 so i am looking forward to start a ticket as soon i finalized all 04:21:03 hopefully this week 04:21:16 but before that i have to get some resources 04:21:19 bckurera, you can do it 04:21:28 What resources? 04:21:38 +1 04:21:47 Have you contacted mether and the fedora india ambassadors' list? 04:21:48 like CDs 04:21:52 * azneita got an SL applicant, maybe he can help 04:21:56 and also Am Wear 04:22:08 i ll talk about Am wear later r8 04:22:17 nice 04:22:28 azneita can i get his contacts 04:22:50 of course 04:22:57 send them then 04:23:09 So 3 Am are working with me to the event 04:23:17 Great 04:23:19 callkalpa, drkmafia 04:23:34 so we ll have a great event 1st time in SL 04:23:36 callkalpa is familiar 04:23:44 still date cannot be fixed sure 04:23:52 coz has to check with the university 04:23:59 bckurera: best wishes for your event 04:24:06 this can be done in Feb 04:24:07 Sounds like an action 04:24:09 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Suresht 04:24:14 Colombo University 04:24:17 ^^ that's him 04:24:35 BUT its is in 1st or 2nd Week in march 04:24:44 thanks azneita :) 04:24:51 so that is all about FAD SL 04:24:57 i am waiting FAD SL 04:25:05 but before that i need to finish Am wear 04:25:10 Good, anything else or next topic? 04:25:16 no you can move 04:25:19 #topic Other future APAC events. 04:25:19 bckurera, you have a link? 04:25:28 please join any interested ppl with me 04:25:33 Fedora Am are welcome 04:25:34 ! 04:25:40 what link azneita> 04:25:42 please maktrix 04:25:51 FAD SL, sorry 04:25:56 I am having an event on 20th December in Dhaka, Bangladesh 04:25:57 Bangladesh you can fly here 04:25:59 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011 04:26:09 thanks 04:26:14 I'm going to talk in Jagannath Univeristy (25,000 students) 04:26:21 and going to distribute F14 media 04:26:32 great numbers 04:26:44 Like in a couple days... 04:27:03 yep, pretty tight schedule 04:27:09 good 04:27:09 azneita: the university have 25k students, but my talk will be in their central auditorium with seating capacity of 500 only 04:27:14 are you done with prep 04:27:19 +1 maktrix 04:27:37 good work 04:27:40 +1 excellent 04:27:44 understood maktrix 04:27:56 maktrix, well done. Best to you on your presentation 04:28:04 dramsey: thanks. 04:28:09 yup you can upload them 04:28:18 ^^ +1 04:28:20 do you have the resources you need? 04:28:22 This is the first time I heard of this, if we discussed earlier, then this would be great topic for support 04:29:06 +1 but I'm sure maktrix can pull it through 04:29:06 azneita: I've produced 1000 DVD, have sent bulk DVD to other ambassadors in Bangaldesh. And have more than 500 with me for the event 04:29:17 also producing T-Shirt, they will arrive in a day or two 04:29:42 great work really happy to hear 04:29:46 Yes +1 04:29:47 dramsey: I was just wondering, that my budget was approved by the last FAmSCo, 04:29:49 +1 04:30:01 now there is new FAmSCo, will they reimburse? 04:30:02 :P 04:30:07 Is there a ticket? 04:30:11 yes 04:30:14 FAmSCo ppl here :) 04:30:21 Kaio :) 04:30:26 * azneita points to kaio and lcafiero :) 04:30:35 +1 bckurera and azneita 04:30:38 lcafiero / kaio, could you bring this back to next Famsco meeting 04:30:39 what's the ticket number? 04:30:39 please 04:30:44 wait 04:31:06 What are the differences in boot speed with debian.6 with freeBSD kernal with fedora 14 04:31:30 nice troll James :) 04:31:39 ask that in #fedora, JamesM_SiteGen -- this is a meeting channel 04:31:41 troll?huh? 04:31:42 ill get OP 04:31:45 JamesM_SiteGen, good topic for #fedora 04:31:53 kk 04:31:56 Ticket #6 04:31:58 lcafiero, you well done. 04:32:12 it's within APAC request 04:32:23 * lcafiero is looking it up. 04:32:34 try fedora-apac trac lcafiero 04:33:02 ... and thanks a lot 04:33:36 larry is budget manager now 04:33:58 yep, i heard that too :) 04:33:59 And that was a meeting question, fedora speed vs debian speed. it needs to be descussed 04:33:59 yup got it 04:34:15 thats it james 04:35:03 maktrix, do you have an event wiki page? 04:35:12 if so, then link would be useful 04:35:15 JamesM_SiteGen: You understand you are getting in the way of productivity for these people? 04:35:17 not until now 04:35:35 EvilBob; he's here just to be a pain at the moment 04:35:46 maktrix, when you have a URL then please send to mailing list then that would be useful. 04:35:50 ohh GOD please Ambassadors create pages in wiki and update it 04:35:53 Is there a URL now? 04:35:55 I am talking about events 04:36:02 asmartgoat: Perhaps he is just confused the purpose of this meeting 04:36:10 kk i'm moving this question to #fedora-vs-debian 04:36:11 they have a FB event 04:36:15 no wiki page means no funding 04:36:23 JamesM_SiteGen: Thank you 04:36:29 wiki page, then report... 04:36:42 dramsey: +1 04:36:48 +1 04:36:48 yes a MUST maktrix 04:36:50 hang on, dramsey -- can I interject something here? 04:36:57 please, lcafiero 04:36:58 sure 04:37:00 but, my reimbursement is related with swag producing not with event 04:37:01 OK, thanks. 04:37:16 maktrix: have you made a reimbursement ticket for funds you've spent? 04:37:38 yes, I do opened and it got approved by susmit, spevack, kital 04:37:45 do we have a page for swag things 04:37:47 for APAC 04:38:17 It is different than the one you pointed out. 04:38:48 go to https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ and let us know how much you've spent. 04:39:12 lcafiero: +1 04:39:15 Also, make a note of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reinbursements 04:39:20 check that 04:39:33 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements 04:39:48 And then if all else fails, ping me. 04:40:03 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements 04:40:14 I know these :) have had received reimbursement on previous events 04:40:33 do i also need to move tickets to famsco trac lcafiero? 04:40:39 Ah, good. Bear in mind, too, that RH is working slowly because of the holidays. 04:40:53 that's duly noted 04:40:56 bad to hear that 04:41:07 lcafiero: no prob. let's end the topic here for the time being and move forward 04:41:16 I don't want to take up time with this -- azneita, let me take it up with you after the meeting, but yes. 04:41:23 :) Good information lcafiero ! :) maktrix, you have actions, sounds grand. you can do it 04:41:35 Move to next topic? 04:41:40 hehe +1 04:41:41 +1 04:41:46 okay 04:41:46 * lcafiero will shut up now :-) 04:41:47 #topic Report current Status of upcoming events 04:41:54 #topic FAD brisbane + LCA 04:42:03 * asmartgoat celebrates 04:42:04 +1 04:42:11 FAD and LCA waving... 04:42:29 * azneita needs to make travel plans 04:42:39 lcafiero, is it possible for me to get my tickets reimbursed now? because im low on money and i could use that to buy accomodation :) 04:43:15 I will check. 04:43:19 thank you 04:43:22 it usually takes about over 1 month to get a reimbursement ticket closed 04:43:26 it should be changed 04:43:37 speaking of accomodation, i'm willing to share rooms if needed 04:43:45 january is spend month :( 04:43:49 yes tuanta +1 04:43:55 about 2 weeks or shorter 04:44:12 so noted, tuanta 04:44:23 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011 04:44:24 #info azneita like to share rooms 04:44:59 haha ^^ 04:45:10 is that funny :) 04:45:45 yep but i get the idea so no prob 04:46:06 asmartgoat, is there any things that needs work going to holidays 04:46:10 azneita its nice to see you 04:46:16 or they can wait 04:46:22 i cant find you lat weeks in IRC 04:46:47 i think after holidays they should wait 1 month :) 04:46:47 they can wait, im moving house on christmas eve, so i'll be without internet until it is set up 04:46:52 but probably 2 weeks 04:47:03 i'll try get internet at relatives :) 04:47:09 relatives houses 04:47:35 hmm... we'll probably need a meeting 1 week before LCA 04:47:38 Where will asmartgoat and azneita be staying overnight prior to for the FAD? 04:47:50 i am 04:47:56 i'll be at a nice hotel in the city 04:47:58 :) 04:48:04 asmartgoat: ill be in BNE then 04:48:06 i can get cheap rates :) 04:48:21 1 week before LCA that is 04:48:49 dgilmore, i'm flying in weekend before LCA 04:49:04 asmartgoat and azneita Are you all staying at the same hotel? 04:49:15 no i'm only staying one night btw 04:49:21 anyone will be in conf? 04:49:21 KageSenshi should be flying in around that time 04:49:27 (not just open day) 04:49:38 \o 04:49:52 dgilmore and azneita will be at conf 04:49:55 jsmith will be there too 04:49:57 (i believe) 04:50:11 kagesenshi too 04:50:16 LCA a big things for APAC am 04:50:22 so are you all readyyyyy 04:50:28 yes :) 04:50:35 nice 04:50:35 azneita☺ you will be paid by yourself? 04:50:36 are you coming to LCA bckurera? 04:50:57 no i m nt 04:51:00 nope kaio 04:51:16 lot of probs with flying 04:51:26 it's supposed to be covered by my sponsorship 04:51:27 who are going to conf are paid by FAm for entry? 04:51:40 I want to go to conf but I dont have money 04:51:50 let's ask kaio 04:52:21 kaio, sponsorship? 04:52:27 i suggest opening a famsco ticket and wait out an approval 04:52:35 kaio you should be there r8 04:52:39 in your case, i think it's ok 04:52:44 :) 04:52:44 * dgilmore is a speaker 04:53:21 is this a miniconf dgilmore? 04:53:27 azneita: nope 04:53:36 it is LARGE 04:53:58 must have skimmed over it, i'll go look again 04:54:28 http://lca2011.linux.org.au/programme/schedule/view_talk/65?day=None 04:54:37 Sounds like azneita, kaio, and kagesenshi must meet up with dgilmore 04:55:08 * dgilmore is looking forward to meeting up with people 04:55:10 +1 04:55:14 make plans before 1 2 weeks for the event 04:55:25 and v ll meet again after the event right 04:55:30 Has the passing of media from Red Hat Brisbane to the Fedora Ambassadors been determined? 04:55:40 place and time that is. 04:55:48 dramsey, harish is to send media :) 04:55:56 oh 04:55:57 Do who 04:56:03 s/who/who? 04:56:10 i'll meet with kaio first thing 04:56:14 it'll be at the event, and we'll take bits of it home (we'll share :) ) 04:56:21 he'll probably know who to look for :) 04:56:48 asmartgoat is only for the FAD correct? Not the LCA, right? 04:56:50 I will at open day at least 04:57:00 Whoops, open day, too 04:57:05 im there for FAD and Open Day :) 04:57:10 Excellent 04:57:11 yeah :) 04:57:13 yeah I am in fad also 04:57:14 kaio: will need help with hotel 04:57:25 kaio: open day is free :) so please try :) 04:57:45 but that can probably wait till jan, so just food for thought 04:57:50 asmartgoat☺ surely will be in open day 04:58:04 azneita☺ havent booked yet? 04:58:11 hotels are around $100 AUD per/night but good ones can be up to $130AUD per night 04:58:12 just the flights 04:58:25 azneita, book the hotel now to save money :) 04:58:32 ++ 04:58:45 yes booking early can save lot 04:58:48 remembers two weeks ago link - #link http://www.accorhotels.com/hotel-cms/gb/offers/offer-776.shtml 04:58:52 i'm waiting word from kagesenshi 04:58:57 from asmartgoat posted. 04:58:57 money + time + confusion 04:59:17 not sure if thats outdated though 04:59:35 they are luxury hotel being cheap in that deal :) 04:59:43 i'll confer with you guys offchannel later 04:59:47 W 05:00:00 Which hotel will you all be staying at? Or is that not determined? 05:00:06 #action azneita: work out accomodations for LCA+FAD 05:00:18 it's still to be determined 05:00:21 i think it is good you all get 2 gether and discuss about that 05:00:25 probably the accor for me 05:00:35 is fine rather taking this in the meetng 05:00:58 Understood 05:01:15 today meeting seems too slow guys and sleepy 05:01:16 :) 05:02:06 Other thoughts? 05:02:11 so can we move pls? 05:02:17 +1 05:02:17 I suggest at latest probably a January 16th meeting to make sure you all have your ducks in a row...one week prior may not be to your advantage. 05:02:23 I am good to move on. 05:02:28 APAC plans 05:02:31 media?? 05:02:36 +1 Dramsey 05:02:38 #topic APAC plans 05:02:43 Moving forward.... 05:02:48 Media, Swag and other needs. - Ambassador Wear - Other? 05:03:10 i want to talk about Am. wear 05:03:18 ambassador wear: still waiting for funds 05:03:20 yes, please 05:03:31 can't forward money i don't have :) 05:03:36 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-shirts 05:03:39 azneita, i'll be happy to pass funds across. if you give me your paypal :) 05:03:57 i tried to conact harish but not posssible 05:04:00 you now have those? 05:04:08 ticket is approved from FAmSCo 05:04:15 good 05:04:19 and harish to pay azneita 05:04:35 i got quotations and a comany is choosen 05:04:47 final price? 05:04:52 i ll post the image of the receipt today night to the list 05:05:02 i believe harish is india atm for fossin 05:05:06 not sure as the quntity is nt yet fixed 05:05:10 i'll try again this week 05:05:15 me too 05:05:23 i need to get some to start 05:05:28 seems we dont have much time 05:05:49 one should be around 8 USD 05:05:59 please fill your need @ the wiki 05:06:18 bckurera, when is your stop date, in order to place order? 05:06:36 they need 15 days to complete the order 05:06:39 from the wiki, i'm seeing orders all over the globe 05:06:41 Post to the list, but increase the price for out of apac shipping :) 05:07:04 shipping should be added too 05:07:14 +1 05:07:18 its varing on the country and amount 05:07:26 we should make that clear so people will know what they're signing up for 05:07:27 NAD this is not only for APAC 05:07:30 and for how much 05:07:33 so anyone can order 05:07:41 APAC get the priority 05:07:45 you should ship to one address per country 05:07:59 sure tuanta 05:08:03 then receiver will send out to others 05:08:12 as we got money from fedora 05:08:20 Am do not have to pay for it 05:08:29 yes, I know 05:08:43 so we have to decide 05:08:58 are we giving 2 Tshirts per Am or just one 05:09:13 i want two, but its preference :) 05:09:14 coz some ordered 2 peices 05:09:32 comeon Am 05:09:35 i need ideas 05:10:03 I see Air Mail to $6, is that per shirt or mailing? Also, would that be to Europe? 05:10:43 mailing fee should be per mailing, I believe that 05:10:45 no its for 10 05:11:00 my suggestion is for us to move forward with production with initial money that we will get from famsco 05:11:04 actually it should be corrected 05:11:07 sorry for that 05:11:09 +1 dramsey. Bckurera, you have to consider International mailing. 05:11:25 yes sure 05:11:40 ok then we ll print some around 50 05:11:49 from the money we got from FAmSCo 05:11:52 Understood everyone...then content on the wiki must make sure...likes idea for initial production, move forward with production. What do you think? 05:12:53 +1, sorry 05:12:59 i'm slow :) 05:13:08 bckurera: is it possible to ship to bangladesh? 05:13:09 +1 05:13:09 anyway i try to get funds soon 05:13:22 y not maktrix 05:13:23 we can 05:13:30 its global 05:13:41 i think it is good i put a mail to the list 05:13:46 the ticket was for $400 05:14:23 and has been approved by spevack 05:14:23 yes 05:14:31 you should add the shipping fee to that ticket 05:14:38 still no payment 05:14:49 it is not possible 05:15:00 air ticket is varing 05:15:11 sorry 05:15:19 international mail fee 05:15:25 is varing 05:15:47 so we ll see 05:15:53 it's a big undertaking for one person 05:15:57 but you still should have a rough estimation 05:16:12 I think so 05:16:16 as soon I got money, i ll proceed 05:16:24 and till that this open for discussions 05:16:38 we ll get the best thing we can do ok 05:16:42 noted bckurera, i'll try to get hold of harish one of these days 05:17:01 so pls azneita try to get harish to the track and get money soon 05:17:08 we have to have wear in LCA 05:17:18 duly noted 05:17:39 #action Payment for Am wear should be clarified ASAP - azneita 05:17:40 #action azneita: Fedora Ambassador Wear funding 05:17:48 #undo 05:17:48 Removing item from minutes: 05:17:53 Well done 05:18:21 so we are on the way :) 05:18:25 normally, you should have all receipts to get reimbursement; but this case, I think bckurera should have payment in advance 05:18:35 +1 tuan 05:18:41 yes i think so 05:18:48 #idea bckurera to get advanced payment if possible 05:18:51 coz the amount is hard to bear personally 05:19:07 so, you should have a rough estimation for all print + air mailing, bckurera 05:19:11 #chair bckurera 05:19:11 Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita bckurera dramsey tuanta 05:19:15 the world is just slowing down for the holidays but we;ll get it done 05:19:26 the reason is harish cant get contacted 05:19:44 i m trying hard to finish this soon 05:19:56 coz then Am can wear tht for LCA and so on 05:19:58 May be follow up after new year to make sure all is well for LCA AM Wear 05:19:58 then someone should help bckurera to push Harish, Max and other responsible ones 05:20:08 +1 Tuan 05:20:15 azneita is with me 05:20:16 +1 05:20:20 bckurera you can do it! 05:20:20 BUT hard to contact :) 05:20:22 agreed 05:20:26 +1 05:20:28 i rem that dramsey :) 05:20:30 azneita has good karma power! 05:20:33 thanks 05:20:45 bckurera, feel free to email us all 05:20:48 :D 05:20:54 sure i ll update all 05:20:56 ASAP 05:20:57 if you need any help :) 05:20:58 Additionally, true on estimate, may be add column to the wiki order and determine/con sider shipping...post to mailing list on deadline. You need a deadline. 05:20:59 with all details 05:21:00 #idea bckurera should have payment in advance for Polo shirts: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-shirts 05:21:09 +1 dramsey ^^ 05:21:15 #chair maktrix 05:21:15 Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita bckurera dramsey maktrix tuanta 05:21:30 with no funds how to set deadlines 05:21:32 thats the thing 05:21:57 So its all about TShirts 05:22:02 Without a deadline, then funds need is not known 05:22:16 i put a mail decribing all ot harish 05:22:17 Other way to look at it. 05:22:21 but still no hint 05:22:37 ok then we ll set a dead line 05:22:56 ANOTHER thing 05:22:56 it should have a deadline, I think 05:23:08 this is unisex 05:23:20 is it ok or we need to have difference for women? 05:23:27 I present a lot without a Fedora Am shirt :) 05:23:37 i ll set the deadline next wednesday 05:23:43 bckurera: no need, I think 05:23:43 any disagreements 05:23:53 +1 bckurera 05:23:53 femails raise your voise please 05:24:15 -+ 05:24:17 bckurera, you meant: female 05:24:22 any females here? 05:24:31 yup sorry Female 05:24:34 :) 05:24:37 include that in the email :) 05:24:46 ok we ll see 05:24:50 no females here, I see 05:24:55 last date for ideas this wednesday 05:25:02 Well said, asmartgoat and tuanta on e-mail and deadline 05:25:08 magie from Philippines 05:25:08 Great bckurera 05:25:17 then I m finished 05:25:20 we can move on 05:25:23 Other thoughts, or media needs? 05:25:29 Swag? 05:25:32 one thing with media 05:25:39 I burnt media myself :) 05:25:42 Two more topics and we are like 85 minutes 05:25:42 hope you all know our magazine 05:25:51 FOSS User magazine 05:25:55 #idea bckurera to address APAC and other amb. in email about Shirts 05:26:07 this time there is an interview with gerard 05:26:15 our APAC FAmSCo 05:26:19 its in sinhala 05:26:31 i ll add the english version to the site and post the link to all 05:26:45 #link http://fossuser.lk 05:26:58 Great. 05:27:00 dramsey: 85 minutes ? :O 05:27:02 just check the latest release :) 05:27:08 can v move then? 05:27:26 yeah, maktrix... 05:27:34 :) 05:27:36 Sure 05:27:39 #info FAmSCo Bradd Gerard is in FOSS User magazine, check the interview 05:27:51 v r mooving 05:27:59 #topic Classrooms for APAC 05:28:04 Was entered by FranciscoD 05:28:13 Experienced/knowledgeable folks can take small classroom sessions to help other ambassadors. Discuss this? 05:28:20 duly noted, idea for future then 05:28:24 #idea Experienced/knowledgeable folks can take small classroom sessions to help other ambassadors. Discuss this? 05:28:37 Okay, next topic? 05:28:45 i m 1000000+ 05:28:59 #topic Open Floor 05:29:03 great, I can be both :)trainer and trainee 05:29:11 i m having some ideas 05:29:12 Tuan, yup! 05:29:14 - Brainstorming - Any Ideas that you have in your mind? 05:29:15 - How about developing our fellow APAC Ambassadors with Red Hat Training?!?!?!?! ==> dramsey 05:29:25 Go bckurera 05:29:26 +1 05:29:32 * asmartgoat wants to be the youngest person to get RHCSA 05:29:35 :D 05:29:40 please try to add Am to your social media network 05:29:43 :D 05:29:44 Get on the RHCE magazine... 05:29:46 i did the online assessment pretest :) 05:29:49 facebook or tweet 05:30:04 I there are URLs for some of the Social Media things already 05:30:06 ah, costs to much. if someone could get me in it would be cool though :) 05:30:08 that help us to develop the network and be KIT 05:30:14 Facebook for sure, twitter, too 05:30:31 so please ad others and keep in touch 05:30:46 coz the more we need each other it is easy to develop the project 05:30:58 then we ll feel fedora is our home and we are one family 05:31:16 this is my idea :) 05:31:38 AND again please update wiki with all details about what you all doing 05:31:43 evnts and anything 05:31:57 and help me in FAD SL too :) 05:32:05 thats all for today 05:32:12 i spoke a lot now :D 05:32:13 i have something 05:32:19 :) 05:32:22 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:APAC 05:32:36 #info all APAC ambassadors related links in that catagory please 05:32:37 :) 05:32:38 Go asmartgoat 05:32:39 IS there any new Ambassadors today? 05:32:40 very nice 05:33:16 I am too old :( 05:33:21 :D 05:33:24 v know that 05:33:44 one asked to join to the meeting in the list 05:34:09 ok then seems we are done 05:34:15 * azneita needs to travel soon 05:34:20 yes bckurera i remember that 05:34:29 azneita please KIT 05:34:29 thank you azneita 05:34:35 need your support 05:34:35 have we completed this eventful meeting? 05:34:43 Last thought - 05:34:44 asmartgoat, the North America http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-12-08/famna.2010-12-08-02.01.log.html 02:34:33 * herlo would like to suggest we put 'Fedora takes the RHCE' on the budget for Q1 or Q2 05:35:04 great idea 05:35:11 I love that also 05:35:13 The North American Ambassadors are '...02:37:18 the plan is to get some to apply and have FAmSCo or something approve applications based upon some criteria, then send 8-10 people per quarter to take the classes and/or exam(s) ... 05:35:24 if FAm can get some discount with RHCE it is great 05:35:27 what u all think 05:35:29 Yes, tuanta 'Tuan' would be good 05:35:35 +1 dramsery 05:35:42 +1 dramsey 05:35:45 Tbhat is it from me 05:35:47 yes Dramsey! 05:35:49 i'll go ahead 05:35:53 +1. thanks :) 05:35:53 * asmartgoat will watch this 05:36:03 what about my idea 05:36:03 I am ready to end meeting, okay? 05:36:04 ???? 05:36:12 What idea bckurera? 05:36:31 if FAm can get some discount with RHCE it is great 05:36:35 what all think 05:36:43 I think this should be the best time for all of us 05:36:44 Sounds like an action 05:36:51 cool! 05:37:08 Discount is start, coverage would be best 05:37:14 +1 05:37:14 so the next bi-weekly meeting should take at every 4:00 UTC on Saturday 05:37:14 #action some discount to FAm in RHCE 05:37:20 #idea (14:36:18) bckurera: if FAm can get some discount with RHCE it is great 05:37:22 OH good 05:37:36 Other thoughts? 05:37:36 oh god we have to fix a time 05:37:44 why the time change suddenly 05:38:05 so every saturday 400 UTS is set now? 05:38:15 People asked and polled, that is reason... 05:38:19 I am flexible 05:38:21 Other thoughts? 05:38:25 UTC :) 05:38:29 then time ok fixed 05:38:31 im done 05:38:47 sunday moved to saturday :D 05:39:08 I have in the past year and a half, deltaed the timeframe at least four times, people wanted on different times. 05:39:16 Sure. 05:39:23 no disagreements :) 05:39:24 Anything else? End meeting? 05:39:29 can we end this now 05:39:31 +1 05:39:34 yes, end now 05:39:40 nice meeting thanks for all being here 05:39:45 5 05:39:46 see you all in the next meeting 05:39:46 4 05:39:46 3 05:39:47 2 05:39:48 great to see all you today 05:39:48 1 05:39:50 0.5 05:39:52 0 05:39:55 :) 05:39:58 Thank you all for attending 05:39:58 #endmeeting