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13:10:49 <liknus> #startmeeting FAmSCo Meeting 2010-12-11
13:10:49 <zodbot> Meeting started Sat Dec 11 13:10:49 2010 UTC.  The chair is liknus. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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13:10:54 <liknus> #chair kital
13:10:54 <zodbot> Current chairs: kital liknus
13:11:01 <liknus> #meetingname famsco
13:11:01 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'famsco'
13:11:10 <liknus> #topic RollCall
13:11:20 <liknus> Who's here ?
13:11:25 <liknus> .fas ppapadeas
13:11:25 <zodbot> liknus: ppapadeas 'Papadeas Pierros' <ppapadeas@gmail.com>
13:11:28 <kaio> hi
13:11:31 <lcafiero> .fas lcafiero
13:11:33 <zodbot> lcafiero: lcafiero 'Larry Cafiero' <larrycafiero@cruzio.com>
13:11:41 * igorps Igor Soares
13:11:43 <gbraad> .fas gbraad
13:11:43 <zodbot> gbraad: gbraad 'Gerard Braad (吉拉德)' <fedora@gbraad.nl>
13:11:43 <liknus> (please state your fas account name after .fas)
13:11:55 <mether> .fas sundaram
13:11:55 <zodbot> mether: balasundaram 'Balasundaram Sivakumar' <sundaramwithcs@yahoo.co.in> - iyerarvind 'Iyer Arvind Sundaram' <arvind@cgpl.iisc.ernet.in> - rajesh1265 'Rajesh Sundaram' <rajesh@itacumens.com> - saravanans 'Saravanan Sundaramoorthy, RHCE' <dearsaravanan@gmail.com> - kveeramani 'veeramani kalyanasundaram' <kveeramani@gmail.com> - sundaram 'Rahul Sundaram' <metherid@gmail.com> - laxman 'Laxman Sundaram Ramana' (1 more message)
13:12:05 <igorps> .fas igorps
13:12:06 <zodbot> igorps: igor 'Igor Pires Soares' <igor@projetofedora.org>
13:12:21 <liknus> OK :)
13:12:26 <kaio> .fas kaio
13:12:26 <zodbot> kaio: kaio 'Caius Chance' <me@kaio.net>
13:12:35 <liknus> Welcome all to our first FAmSCo meeting !
13:12:42 <liknus> Our agenda can be found here :
13:13:03 <liknus> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_tasks
13:13:29 <liknus> and here : (mainly)
13:13:32 <liknus> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda
13:13:57 <liknus> We have some ongoing action items that we inherited from our previous famsco
13:14:14 <liknus> these can be found on the "Current Action Items" section
13:14:42 <liknus> and our temporary agenda for each meeting can be found on the bottom section of this page
13:15:00 <liknus> (Seems like a nice format for meetings, I suggest we keep it)
13:15:36 <liknus> We shall move forward and examine our current action items and define owners (or drop them)
13:15:44 <liknus> So,
13:15:56 <liknus> #topic Current Action Items
13:16:04 <liknus> Continue work on Ambassadors FAQ
13:16:37 <liknus> Basically, what needs to be done here is keep things up to date and get some feedback from the community
13:16:51 <igorps> !
13:16:56 <liknus> Anyone willing to take this action item or any suggestions?
13:16:57 <liknus> igorps,
13:17:23 <igorps> It looks like some topics are already defined
13:17:24 <liknus> spevack, ping
13:17:38 <igorps> we just need to fill them at the page
13:17:47 <liknus> igorps, +1
13:17:55 <igorps> although are a lot of them
13:18:11 <igorps> I can help with it
13:18:24 <liknus> ok :) everyone ok with igorps having this item?
13:18:25 <igorps> I will just need someone to review it later
13:18:30 <liknus> I am +1
13:18:34 <gbraad> if you need help, I am willing to help
13:18:35 <liknus> (everyone will review it :)
13:18:38 <kaio> ++
13:18:52 <igorps> ok then :)
13:19:08 <liknus> #action igorps with gbraad help continue to work on Ambassadors FAQ
13:19:36 <liknus> lcafiero, mether ok?
13:19:56 <lcafiero> OK. I will be glad to review any changes.
13:20:03 <liknus> awesome
13:20:10 <liknus> moving on to :
13:20:16 <liknus> Our Ambassador Conduct needs some love ?
13:20:16 <mether> liknus, hold on call
13:21:19 <liknus> sidenote: beacause we are only 6 of us here we can step up without the need of "!","?" etc
13:22:19 <igorps> for the record:
13:22:22 <igorps> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Conduct
13:22:26 <gbraad> I think the code of conduct belongs to the FAQ, so see no issue with picking this up
13:22:41 <liknus> On the Ambassador Conduct I believe that after the creation of Community Working Group this Code of Conduct falls into the general one
13:22:51 <igorps> +1
13:23:10 <igorps> Maybre it is better to have a general Fedora Code of Conduct
13:23:23 <igorps> than just a ambassador one
13:23:36 <gbraad> Actually, it is at the moment
13:23:42 <liknus> So we shall wait for the completion of their work and then try to identify and special needs of Ambassadors Group
13:23:48 <liknus> (if any)
13:23:53 <gbraad> it is not Ambassador specific
13:24:15 <liknus> so shall we keep this item on hold and hopefully we won't need an Ambassador specific one
13:24:16 <liknus> ok?
13:24:20 <gbraad> +1
13:24:40 <igorps> gbraad: That page looks directed to Ambassadors
13:24:45 <lcafiero> +1
13:24:49 <igorps> liknus: ok
13:25:12 <igorps> if needed we can add some specific ambassador topic after that
13:25:36 <liknus> #agreed hold the item "Ambassador Conduct" until completion of CWG work
13:25:37 <gbraad> we need more feedback, agree
13:25:58 <kaio> ++
13:26:06 <liknus> I will make sure to make this an item again after the CWG has something to work on
13:26:27 <liknus> #action liknus reopens  "Ambassador Conduct" after CWG has sth to work on
13:27:00 <liknus> (please step up if you do not agree on something :) )
13:27:14 <liknus> Ok our next action item :
13:27:21 <liknus> Elect our new chairman
13:27:39 <liknus> Shall we express nominations?
13:27:51 <liknus> kital, how this was done before?
13:28:02 <gbraad> I thought of drawing ;-)
13:28:39 <liknus> gbraad, we need to have someone who"wants" to do that :) and also have the time for that )
13:28:40 <kital> liknus: i have sent a link on that question ;)
13:28:57 <gbraad> I would like to know who would like to volunteer
13:29:50 <kital> liknus: it was done in a public proposal
13:29:53 <liknus> I am volunteering :)
13:30:08 <liknus> kital, yeap :) sorry, I remember the link now :)
13:30:58 <liknus> ok so we shall move forward with this meeting and by the end of it elect the new chairman
13:31:01 <gbraad> anyone else? kaio, mether, lcafiero igorps ?
13:31:06 <kital> the chair has the same vote as every other FAmSCo member just more work ;)
13:31:13 <lcafiero> heh
13:31:25 <liknus> kital, it's always like this :) but we like it!
13:31:40 <lcafiero> I have no objection to liknus. There was discussion about Yn1v being chair by virtue of the fact he was top vote getter
13:31:44 <igorps> liknus: I enjoy your actions for setting up this meeting and running it
13:31:49 <lcafiero> I believe that was in #fedora-ambassadors
13:31:59 <liknus> lcafiero, seems logical
13:32:03 <lcafiero> But I'd vote for liknus
13:32:11 <gbraad> I vote for liknus
13:32:12 <liknus> lcafiero, lol thanks though
13:32:30 <kaio> I vote liknus
13:32:34 <liknus> Ok we can sort it out more officially by the end of the meeting :)
13:32:37 <liknus> So!
13:32:37 <igorps> liknus: you have been proactive, so I give a +1 for you :)
13:32:45 <liknus> Moving on : :)
13:32:56 <liknus> Reform Events page to be more usable
13:33:23 <liknus> I am in contact with ianweller from the websites team to figure out a wiki-way to do that
13:33:39 <gbraad> kaio, would you like to work on this with me?
13:33:58 <liknus> Hiding the rest Quarters (not the current ones) seems like the right way to do this
13:34:06 <kaio> gbraad☺ yes!
13:34:30 <liknus> also by cleaning the whole thing up we shall have specific outlines on how to state a date (thats one primary problem)
13:34:37 <igorps> or diving the years into different wiki pages
13:34:39 <liknus> I am willing to work on that also
13:35:00 <liknus> (I am a wiki freak so please gimme some wiki editing!)
13:35:01 <liknus> :P
13:35:13 <liknus> Also the table must be sortable
13:35:19 <liknus> So two things here :
13:35:30 <liknus> Someone to reform it and someone to maintain it
13:35:41 <liknus> I am willing to reform it (with help if someone wants)
13:35:45 <gbraad> ok, liknus. you can have the item. as long as APAC is ours ;-)
13:36:05 <liknus> gbraad, You will maintain the whole thing then :)
13:36:17 <gbraad> i know ;-)
13:36:24 <liknus> the Events page is not region specific :)
13:36:41 <gbraad> i'll provide help.
13:36:53 <liknus> So I will reform the page and have some feedback from you and Ambassadors on that (with gbraad help)
13:37:12 <liknus> and then we shall figure out someone to constantly maintain the whole thing
13:37:17 <liknus> ok ?
13:37:25 <gbraad> +1
13:37:32 <igorps> +1
13:37:36 <kaio> ++
13:37:47 <liknus> #action liknus reforms the Events page with help from gbraad
13:38:02 <lcafiero> +1
13:38:05 <liknus> #info Events page will have a maintainer (or a group of them)
13:38:22 <liknus> Moving on :
13:38:26 <liknus> Ambassadors survey to help set FAmSCo long term agenda
13:38:29 <gbraad> note: in the long-run it needs to be a group
13:38:46 * liknus thinks that gbraad is right :)
13:38:57 <liknus> So our next item was mether proposal
13:39:02 <liknus> mether, on that?
13:39:21 <mether> yeah I was suggesting running a ambassador specific survey
13:39:27 <mether> and addressing concerns if we can
13:39:45 <liknus> sounds great :)
13:39:59 <liknus> So I guess you have the action item ?
13:40:06 <liknus> Do you have any draft questions?
13:40:13 <mether> there is some constant niggling friction like the topics of mentoring and active/inactive ambassadors etc and I want to know what is important for the team
13:40:23 <mether> don't have anything ready at this point
13:40:34 <mether> we will have to discuss logistics of doing that
13:40:37 <mether> and what to ask
13:40:40 <mether> on the list I think
13:40:51 <mether> if everyone is agreeable that it is a good thing to do
13:41:01 <igorps> Those are really important issues
13:41:12 <igorps> We can take some lessons from the FWN survey
13:41:21 <kaio> yes we should get feedback from all
13:41:21 <lcafiero> +1 -- and we can discuss on list
13:41:35 <liknus> +1 we should do that!
13:41:36 <gbraad> agree with mether's idea. i do notice swag is the most needed resource, but I also wanna know how mature their local community is, in the sense of Open SOurce acceptance, etc
13:41:41 <gbraad> +1
13:42:12 <liknus> #agreed mether will draft out a Ambassadors wide survey
13:42:43 <liknus> #action mether initiates the discussion on the list
13:42:46 <liknus> sounds good?
13:42:58 <mether> alrighty
13:43:00 <lcafiero> sounds good to me
13:43:10 <gbraad> +1
13:43:10 <kaio> ++
13:43:16 <igorps> +1
13:43:44 <liknus> ok :)
13:43:49 <liknus> Moving on :
13:44:04 <liknus> New mentor for Brazil
13:44:29 <liknus> Daniel Bruno was suggested by Yn1v
13:44:29 <igorps> yn1v and me indicated danielbruno
13:44:41 <lcafiero> I'm sorry, liknus -- can I interrupt for a second?
13:44:42 <liknus> I am totally ok with that as far as I can tell
13:44:47 <liknus> lcafiero, go ahead :)
13:45:11 <lcafiero> could you use the hash-topic to introduce new items
13:45:17 <lcafiero> ?
13:45:24 <liknus> for each action item you mean?
13:45:31 <lcafiero> for example #topic New mentor for Brazil
13:45:54 <igorps> +1 It would look better on the meeting minutes
13:45:56 <liknus> You are probably right as we discuss them extensively
13:46:08 <lcafiero> Thanks.
13:46:15 <liknus> We will do that from now on :) thanks lcafiero
13:46:21 <liknus> #topic New mentor for Brazil
13:46:27 <lcafiero> It's for the minutes -- meetbot will record them that way
13:46:27 <mether> I don't know to judge whether someone is suitable as a mentor on a region that I am not familiar with
13:46:48 <igorps> So here is Daniel's wiki page:
13:46:52 <igorps> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Dbruno
13:46:56 <lcafiero> I would trust the judgment of whomever is there and is proposing the mentor.
13:47:02 <gbraad> have to agree with mether here. Is there a need for more mentors in that region?
13:47:07 <mether> so who is proposing it
13:47:17 <liknus> Yn1v
13:47:23 <lcafiero> I think Yn1v
13:47:29 <igorps> gbraad: yes there is
13:47:39 <igorps> Brazil needs a mentor
13:47:46 <igorps> we don't have one now
13:47:56 <mether> the whole of Brazil doesn't have even a single mentor so far?
13:48:11 <liknus> his blog is bilingual and seems like a fine Ambassador
13:48:28 <lcafiero> Right, I think Rodrigo Padula was a mentor, but he's no longer with Fedora
13:48:37 <igorps> mether: no it doesn't
13:48:39 <mether> ah ok
13:48:39 <lcafiero> If memory serves me correctly
13:48:41 <gbraad> seems a good candidate
13:48:43 <liknus> lcafiero, yeap you are right
13:48:51 <mether> is someone personally familiar with him in this team?
13:48:58 <igorps> he is a good candidate
13:49:00 <lcafiero> igorps: do you know him personally?
13:49:03 <liknus> only Yn1v and he is not here
13:49:10 <igorps> lcafiero: yes
13:49:13 <mether> ok
13:49:13 <liknus> oh
13:49:15 <liknus> nice :)
13:49:21 <lcafiero> And you think he'll do a good job?
13:49:26 <igorps> he was in FUDCon Santigo
13:49:35 <igorps> and at FISL in 2009
13:49:44 <igorps> I'm sure
13:49:54 <lcafiero> OK.
13:49:59 <igorps> he is used to introduce new ambassadors
13:50:02 <liknus> I am ok with that then :)
13:50:08 <mether> then alright. we can proceed but in case, we run into nominations where none of us know the person, we need more details from the person raising it
13:50:10 <lcafiero> +1 - same here
13:50:19 <igorps> actually he is already mentoring them in some way
13:50:30 <lcafiero> Although you are right, mether -- the person proposing should make the case in the future.
13:50:57 <liknus> #agreed Dbuno new mentor for Brazil
13:51:14 <igorps> I'll contact Daniel about that
13:51:15 <liknus> #info more info on next mentor nominees
13:51:16 <gbraad> from his blog he is clear about Fedora's differences from other distros and our vision
13:51:17 <mether> It would be useful for us to get some justification for future nominations.  Nothing personal of course
13:51:19 <gbraad> +1
13:51:36 <liknus> everyone ok ?
13:51:45 <mether> yes
13:51:46 <kaio> ok. :)
13:51:48 <igorps> ok
13:51:58 <lcafiero> That's a good practice, mether, and we should have the person proposing be here to present his case
13:52:07 <liknus> lcafiero, totally agreed :)
13:52:15 <gbraad> agree with lcafiero
13:52:21 <mether> so let's make sure of that for future nominations
13:52:30 <lcafiero> +1
13:52:34 <liknus> ok moving on :
13:52:59 <liknus> #topic Budget handler in collaboration with spevack
13:53:01 <liknus> Choose a budget co-manager to serve with spevack
13:53:12 <liknus> lcafiero, that you I guess :)
13:53:21 * lcafiero looks around
13:53:27 <lcafiero> me? :-)
13:53:29 <kaio> lcafiero☺ ++
13:53:29 <lcafiero> I can do that.
13:53:30 <liknus> we discussed that a little bit on the channel
13:53:37 <lcafiero> Right.
13:53:43 <liknus> You have previous experience :)
13:53:52 <liknus> I am more than ok of you having this :)
13:53:52 <gbraad> if lcafiero wants, +1
13:53:57 <liknus> +1 for me!
13:54:09 <kaio> ++
13:54:11 <mether> even if lcafiero doesn't want it +1 :-)
13:54:12 <igorps> +1 for lcafiero!
13:54:13 <lcafiero> I will do it, then.
13:54:22 <lcafiero> Heh @ mether
13:54:50 * lcafiero is good at bugging spevack if that's what you mean by "experience" :-)
13:54:56 <liknus> ok :)
13:55:19 <liknus> #agreed lcafiero is the Budget Handler of FAmSCo
13:55:52 <liknus> lcafiero, make sure to bug spevack *a lot* as we are falling behind at many tickets
13:56:13 <liknus> mether, on the previous one (mentorship)
13:56:30 <liknus> can you reflect what we agreed on this page?
13:56:33 <liknus> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_Join_choose_a_mentor
13:57:04 <liknus> so it specifies that mentor will be presented as a case by the one that nominates him
13:57:17 <kaio> liknus☺ the list of mentor on that page is hard-coded
13:57:43 <liknus> I am talking about the part:
13:57:44 <liknus> "Regional Ambassador Mentors are a group of people - selected, proposed and appointed by people - not by a leveling system - based on trust (and a lot of soft facts), Prospective mentors are nominated by existing Mentors and confirmed by FAmSCo - [1]. If you want to be a mentor for the Ambassador group, be a good ambassador and if asked, volunteer to help, when needed. One great way to prepare is, to be a good mentor for the project as
13:57:44 <liknus> a whole."
13:57:49 <mether> lcafiero, i think we need a page more associated with famsco for that.  I will write up the details
13:58:07 <liknus> ok mether :)
13:58:21 <kaio> are there any ways to improve to have the mentor list updated automatically?
13:58:33 <lcafiero> OK, I will help out on that.
13:58:48 <mether> lets take it to the list
13:58:53 <mether> it requires more discussions
13:58:55 <liknus> #action mether clarifies the mentor confirmation process within famsco
13:58:55 <lcafiero> help mether on the details.
13:59:04 <liknus> #undo
13:59:04 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0x12440410>
13:59:13 <liknus> #action mether clarifies the mentor confirmation process within famsco with help form lcafiero
13:59:13 <liknus> :)
13:59:20 <liknus> ok everyone?
13:59:27 <mether> ok
13:59:36 <kaio> ok
13:59:37 <lcafiero> OK
13:59:40 <liknus> nice :)
13:59:42 <liknus> moving on:
13:59:50 * gbraad remebers a lot of questions have been about "selected, proposed and appointed by people" and "and confirmed by FAmSCo"
13:59:53 <liknus> #topic Regional Reports
14:00:15 <liknus> I should start on EMEA I guess
14:00:38 <liknus> So after a round of Release Parties we are looking forward to our presence at FOSDEM
14:00:52 <liknus> February so we have a lot of time to plan ahead
14:01:37 <liknus> some budget allocation is already done by spevack and I will make sure to specify the swag together with the event onwer
14:02:20 <liknus> We are still pursuing the media production of F14 as we had a really unfortunate chain of events
14:02:31 <liknus> (budget is allocated though :) )
14:03:10 <liknus> I am chairing the EMEA Ambassadors meeting but I will pass this over to cwickert (senior EMEA Ambassador) and help him if needed
14:03:18 <liknus> thats for EMEA
14:03:56 <lcafiero> NA next?
14:04:01 <liknus> (we are approaching 1 hour :( possilby we can speed things up...although because this was our first meeting is was logical)
14:04:06 <liknus> NA go ahead :)
14:04:16 <igorps> lcafiero: go for it!
14:04:25 <igorps> LATAM is next
14:04:26 <lcafiero> FUDCon in January -- everyone seems to be focused on that.
14:04:48 <lcafiero> We should have F14 media in a week, thanks to Clint Savage (herlo)
14:05:52 <lcafiero> I do want to note -- this is not NA specific -- but we have only spent about half our budget this year, globally, so for 2011 we should not be "shy" about doing projects and asking for money.
14:05:58 <lcafiero> That's all for NA
14:06:08 <gbraad> APAC. Kaio on I have been working on the Chinese community a lot and continue to do so. Since our appointment as mentor, we have been able to promote some of our members to Ambassadors. Some have been unknown to what it was for a long time. I hope Kaio can explain some more about activities
14:06:24 <igorps> On the LATAM side we have FUDCon Panama pre-registration opened
14:06:31 <igorps> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Panama_2011
14:06:43 <igorps> We are also setting up a ticket system for local ambassadors
14:06:56 <igorps> #link http://rpmdev.proyectofedora.org/projects/embajadores/
14:07:11 <liknus> why not on our infrastructure?
14:07:36 <igorps> That was pre-existent
14:07:37 <liknus> like : http://fedorahosted.org/famlatam
14:07:58 <gbraad> I hope we can move more to the Fedora infra. it helps with getting people involved and contributing
14:07:59 <igorps> I'd rather use our track instance
14:08:44 <igorps> but some local ambassadors fell more comfortable to work on a local instance
14:08:46 <liknus> igorps, I am afraid of getting out the wrong message... but if you like to stick to it I am ok with what you feel
14:09:01 <igorps> but I can take this to the latam meeting
14:09:09 <liknus> igorps, please do so
14:09:25 <igorps> we already have a rpm project in that infra
14:09:30 <liknus> #action igorps raises Trac location of fam-latam
14:09:45 <igorps> and it works along with our global infrastructure
14:10:00 <liknus> ok then :) no worries
14:10:11 <igorps> but if local ambassadors agree to move to a track based instance no problem for me
14:10:23 <liknus> thanks igorps :)
14:10:28 <liknus> so moving on :
14:10:29 <gbraad> it depends on the local community, but never wrong to questioning things either ;-)
14:10:40 <igorps> +1
14:10:45 <igorps> that's it for latam
14:10:49 <lcafiero> +1
14:11:07 <liknus> gbraad, +1 :)
14:11:19 <liknus> #Review of open tickets
14:11:20 <gbraad> sorry for mentioning APAC earlier, but I typed in advance as my connection si slow over a vpn to the Netherlands
14:11:34 <liknus> gbraad, it was ok :)
14:11:41 <lcafiero> brb
14:11:45 <liknus> so spevack is not online now
14:11:46 <gbraad> I still thinkaio can add something to this
14:11:56 <igorps> actually one of local ambassadors opened a ticket for that:
14:11:56 <igorps> https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/113
14:12:31 <kaio> gbraad☺ recent news from apac?
14:12:31 <igorps> I'll take to see if we stick to redmine or move to track
14:13:02 <gbraad> kaio, APAC - FAD and LCA
14:13:20 <lcafiero> back
14:13:30 <kaio> we will have LCA (Linux Conference Australia) at the end of Jan 2011
14:13:57 <liknus> (was invited there! much money to go though....)
14:14:07 <kaio> where APAC FAms are invited by RH for open day
14:14:18 <kaio> liknus☺ for open day only
14:15:01 <kaio> to stand at booth to promote Fedora and OLPC voluntary
14:15:18 <liknus> nice kaio
14:15:24 <liknus> any help you might want?
14:15:50 <gbraad> I hope to attend LCA and FOSDEM next year. SO if possible I will provide help during my visits
14:15:51 <kaio> then we decided to have a FAD next to the LCA @ Brisbane
14:16:00 <kaio> liknus☺ any help is welcome!
14:16:48 <kaio> we have confirmed the venue of FAD, and some flights for LCA+FAD on trac
14:16:51 <liknus> I suggest we initiate (starting from FAD Brisbane) a series of remote calls during FADs to stress out our "global" way of acting :)
14:17:25 <liknus> I am willing to give one during FAD Brisbane if you want me :P
14:17:51 * gbraad hopes the budget for EMEA and especially APAC will equal that of the NA budget expenses ;-)
14:18:19 <kaio> liknus☺ ++, I do want to link the FAD @ Brisbane globally
14:18:36 <liknus> gbraad, we will make sure to do that :)
14:18:51 <liknus> kaio, ok conact me and reflect that on the wiki
14:18:57 <liknus> so anything else on APAC?
14:19:23 <kaio> there is a discussion thread about FUDCon APAC in Brisbane
14:19:33 <gbraad> I think we will come back to this later, as I still discuss some with kaio and Luke about this.
14:19:48 <liknus> awesome :)
14:19:51 <gbraad> APAC done for now
14:19:57 <liknus> thanks APAC :)
14:20:00 <liknus> so moving on :
14:20:09 <liknus> #topic Review of open Tickets
14:20:14 <liknus> spevack, is not online
14:20:15 <liknus> :(
14:20:15 <kaio> hope there is some progress from the discussions
14:20:30 <lcafiero> I will check with him and post on the famsco list
14:20:31 <liknus> so we need to wait I guess for next time
14:20:38 <liknus> lcafiero, excellent :)
14:21:00 <liknus> #action lcafiero checks on open tickets with spevack and post on the famsco list
14:21:15 <liknus> ok so we are done :)
14:21:20 <gbraad> also need to know if spevack will be able to attend our meeting in the future.
14:21:31 <liknus> gbraad, +1
14:21:31 <lcafiero> I will ask him that, too.
14:21:35 <liknus> lcafiero, thanks :)
14:21:39 <gbraad> i have another point
14:21:45 <lcafiero> It's 8 a.m. US Eastern time for him
14:21:50 <liknus> #topic Election of FAmSCo chair
14:22:04 <liknus> 8am is kinda hard :S
14:22:13 <lcafiero> So is 5 a.m. :-)
14:22:20 <lcafiero> (my time for this meeting)
14:22:24 <liknus> 5 am is
14:22:31 * lcafiero is going back to bed after this
14:22:33 <gbraad> lcafiero is ++
14:22:36 <liknus> ... you are a hero lcafiero :)
14:22:39 <kaio> I am ok for this time but today I am very sick. :P
14:22:50 <liknus> So:
14:22:54 <lcafiero> liknus: are we voting on the FAmSCO chair?
14:22:55 <liknus> any nominees for chair
14:23:00 <liknus> ?
14:23:01 <lcafiero> liknus
14:23:04 <gbraad> i have no problem with vothing for liknus
14:23:07 <liknus> ok lcafiero :)
14:23:08 <kaio> liknus☺
14:23:14 <igorps> I vote for liknus :)
14:23:26 <lcafiero> It looks like it's unanimous.
14:23:32 <liknus> mether,
14:23:33 <liknus> ?
14:23:35 <kaio> 100% vote? :)
14:23:39 <lcafiero> mether?
14:24:03 <lcafiero> well, not unanimous, since Yn1v is not here
14:24:24 <gbraad> also mether has not voted
14:24:30 <liknus> 5/7
14:24:31 <lcafiero> mether: care to cast a vote?
14:24:34 <gbraad> but a mojority has reached
14:24:41 <lcafiero> That's still a majority
14:24:49 * gbraad regrets the typo
14:24:51 <liknus> so I guess that is agreed?
14:24:53 <lcafiero> So congratulations, lik
14:24:56 <lcafiero> liknus
14:24:58 <liknus> thanks all!
14:24:59 <liknus> :)
14:25:14 <liknus> #agreed liknus  is the new FAmSCo chair
14:25:24 <igorps> Thank you liknus for steeping up
14:25:26 <mether> lcafiero, +1.
14:25:29 <liknus> hope I can live up to your expectations :)
14:25:39 <liknus> 6/7 then :P
14:25:41 <gbraad> ?
14:25:41 <lcafiero> +1 to igorps
14:25:47 <igorps> So we have reached a consensus here
14:25:57 <gbraad> I would like to bring another point.
14:25:58 <lcafiero> I believe so
14:25:58 <liknus> thanks mether lcafiero igorps gbraad kaio
14:26:28 <gbraad> I remember paul frields asked to be removed from the fmasco list. any idea if that happened?
14:26:37 <liknus> #topic OpenFloor
14:26:37 <kaio> liknus☺ more power more responsibility, hero :D
14:26:39 <gbraad> s/fmasco/famsco
14:26:53 <liknus> gbraad, no idea if that was done
14:26:57 <liknus> kital, knows probably
14:27:21 <gbraad> I would like to see more responsibility being moved to jsmith
14:27:42 <kital> gbraad: i can remove him if famsco decides to do so
14:27:43 <liknus> Also I have to appoint now a vice-chair :)
14:27:59 <gbraad> he already has, but it seems like we still rely on paul in some areas
14:28:03 * kaio wants to attend LCA but aint sure if need to lodge trac ticket
14:28:04 <kital> i will hand over admin right to the list and to the famsco fas group to liknus anyway
14:28:05 <liknus> kital, let's keep that clean
14:28:15 <liknus> ok nice :)
14:28:22 <kaio> gbraad☺ ++ we still need paul
14:28:23 <liknus> so for vice-chair now :)
14:28:48 <liknus> (I hate to do this :P )
14:29:04 <igorps> liknus: don't be shy :)
14:29:09 <liknus> lcafiero, has the budget... so he is out :P
14:29:17 <lcafiero> heh
14:30:00 <liknus> I have one week to do this...
14:30:27 <igorps> So take your time ;)
14:30:29 <liknus> so I prefer to decide after some checking :P
14:30:37 <igorps> +1
14:30:40 <kaio> ++
14:30:46 <liknus> No worries though... this is just typical
14:31:00 <gbraad> we have not been complete. maybe Yn1v wants this?
14:31:00 <liknus> final point :
14:31:19 <liknus> gbraad, that's one of the reasons I want to delay that
14:31:46 <liknus> I am working on reviewing our Ambassadors schedule
14:31:56 <lcafiero> could we have more than 1 co-chair, so each region is represented?
14:32:01 <lcafiero> Just a thought.
14:32:01 <liknus> expect some feedback and action items on the next meeting
14:32:19 <liknus> lcafiero, seems like a nice possibility :)
14:32:29 <liknus> I am sure we will work this out
14:32:38 <lcafiero> Since liknus is EMEA and I'm NA, that leaves APAC and LATAM
14:32:43 <gbraad> nice idea, but might turn out confusing. over-management is never a solution
14:32:54 <liknus> gbraad, has a point
14:33:01 <lcafiero> OK.
14:33:05 <lcafiero> Just thinking aloud.
14:33:13 <gbraad> communication is key
14:33:15 <liknus> lcafiero, always a good thing :)
14:33:22 <igorps> gbraad: +1
14:33:29 <liknus> we will sort it out I am sure about that :)
14:33:38 <liknus> we seem to get along quite well :)
14:33:46 <lcafiero> +1 to that
14:33:51 <liknus> So everyone ok with ending our first meeting ? :)
14:34:00 <liknus> (so lcafiero ca sleep a bit... )
14:34:07 <igorps> ok
14:34:07 <lcafiero> Heh. YES! :-)
14:34:15 <liknus> lcafiero, haha :)
14:34:18 <igorps> lcafiero: deserves it!
14:34:21 <gbraad> liknus, et lcafiero's idea be food for thought
14:34:27 <gbraad> ok, done
14:34:31 <lcafiero> we can discuss on list
14:34:44 <liknus> Thanks all for attending, it was constructive and fun!
14:34:48 <liknus> see ya all around :)
14:34:52 <lcafiero> Thanks, liknus
14:34:54 <kaio> thx everyone!
14:34:57 <igorps> Thank you liknus
14:34:58 <lcafiero> Thanks, everyone
14:35:05 <liknus> #endmeeting