03:00:24 <bckurera> #startmeeting APAC meeting 2010-11-28
03:00:24 <zodbot> Meeting started Sun Nov 28 03:00:24 2010 UTC.  The chair is bckurera. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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03:00:41 <dramsey> Have pinged lcafiero and gbraad to join just in case
03:00:45 <dramsey> .fas dramsey
03:00:45 <zodbot> dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' <diamond_ramsey@hotmail.com>
03:00:51 <azneita> .fas azneita
03:00:51 <zodbot> azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' <herson@azneita.org>
03:00:53 <asmartgoat> .fas artgo
03:00:54 <KageSenshi> .fas izhar
03:00:54 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
03:00:54 <zodbot> asmartgoat: asmartgoat 'Luke Martinez' <l32007luke@gmail.com>
03:00:56 <bckurera> #chair asmartgoat dramsey azneita
03:00:56 <zodbot> Current chairs: asmartgoat azneita bckurera dramsey
03:00:59 <zodbot> KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' <kagesenshi.87@gmail.com>
03:01:02 <ke4qqq> .fas ke4qqq
03:01:03 <bckurera> .fas bckurera
03:01:03 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
03:01:07 <zodbot> ke4qqq: ke4qqq 'David Nalley' <david@gnsa.us>
03:01:11 <zodbot> bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' <bckurera@gmail.com>
03:01:19 <sgordon> .fas sgordon
03:01:20 <zodbot> sgordon: sgordon 'Stephen Gordon' <sgordon@redhat.com>
03:01:21 <tuanta> woo, a lot of men here today :)
03:01:26 <bckurera> Hi good morning to all of you we are here for the APAC meetings
03:01:31 <KageSenshi> yeah XD
03:01:39 <tuanta> the biggest meeting ever, for me
03:01:45 <tuanta> good morning
03:02:01 <asmartgoat> next topic?
03:02:04 * azneita couldn't agree more tuan
03:02:07 <bckurera> so lets move to the next topic
03:02:12 <bckurera> #topic News from FAmSCo
03:02:22 <bckurera> Is there any news?
03:02:28 <azneita> ke4qqq, please?
03:02:42 <asmartgoat> ke4qqq has the floor
03:02:47 <asmartgoat> cheryn your just in time :)
03:03:01 <cheryn> hello asmartgoat :)
03:03:08 <cheryn> hi everybody
03:03:28 <bckurera> ke4qqq please?
03:03:37 <ke4qqq> I have no news....
03:03:48 <bckurera> hmmm then can we proceed?
03:03:51 <ke4qqq> unless you are looking for something specifically
03:03:54 * ke4qqq is just here to watch
03:04:08 <bckurera> #topic Ambassador wear - Tshirts
03:05:02 <bckurera> As you all aware I designed a TShirt for APAC Am.
03:05:44 <bckurera> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Bckurera/APAC-shirts
03:05:45 <azneita> has everybody lodged their sizes?
03:05:46 <tuanta> yes, I booked some for me
03:06:05 <bckurera> So we need to finalize this and proceed today
03:06:25 <bckurera> I have got around 40 orders all over the world (I should say)
03:06:55 <asmartgoat> cheryn / sgordon, will you need some for LCA?
03:07:01 <bckurera> According to the ideas of Am. the APAC term has removed from the TShirts and it suits for all Am.
03:07:30 <bckurera> The minimum amount is 50 for proceed with a manugacturer
03:07:51 <bckurera> The right price then can be announced.
03:08:08 <azneita> i'll add two more, for engels and magie they can't join us today
03:08:24 <asmartgoat> cant we get funding from FAmSCo for this?
03:08:28 <sgordon> i personally would be happy to chip for one
03:08:41 <bckurera> However I ll discuss with them(manugacturer) in the next week
03:08:45 <ke4qqq> bckurera: if you're that close, just assume famsco will make up whatevers left to get to 50 - and then you'll have spares for others later
03:09:17 <bckurera> that means we can get some funds right?
03:09:21 <azneita> right!
03:09:35 <KageSenshi> cool
03:09:43 <bckurera> ok then I ll contact ke4qqq for further settlements
03:09:47 <bckurera> is it ok?
03:09:55 * azneita grins
03:10:18 <bckurera> still all can send me sugessions - I m nt finalize anything
03:10:33 <dramsey> Cool guys,
03:10:41 <dramsey> Good idea for T-Shirts for the people.
03:10:44 <bckurera> the logo guide lines are safely followed and no more troubles
03:11:06 <dramsey> Good bckurera, adhere to the standards and we are legit
03:11:08 <azneita> btw, asmartgoat: can you do the minute-taking - #action #idea
03:11:31 <asmartgoat> yes
03:11:37 <azneita> thanks
03:12:06 <asmartgoat> #idea famsco to make up what numbers are left for t-shirts to get to fifty.
03:12:20 <tuanta> +1
03:12:24 <asmartgoat> alright, bckureras gone, we'll continue and comeback
03:12:25 <dramsey> +1
03:12:33 <asmartgoat> #topic Report current Status of upcoming events
03:12:47 <asmartgoat> Any news
03:12:50 <dramsey> bckurera is on way...
03:13:06 <asmartgoat> we'll come back to tshirts
03:13:27 <bckurera> sorry got disconnected
03:13:37 <bckurera> shall we move now
03:13:52 <asmartgoat> oh
03:13:55 <asmartgoat> already moved :)
03:13:59 <asmartgoat> we can go back if you want
03:13:59 <bckurera> thanks
03:14:11 <bckurera> no I am ok with it :)
03:14:15 <asmartgoat> :)
03:14:40 <bckurera> we have number of events to go right
03:14:43 <azneita> moving on, my visa application request for LCA has just been approved by ke4qqq
03:15:03 <azneita> i'll apply on tuesday and take it from there
03:15:06 <asmartgoat> and i have funding to travel to LCA
03:15:22 <azneita> everything else on my end is pending per max's perusal
03:15:51 <azneita> Kagesenshi, how about yours?
03:16:14 <KageSenshi> not familiar with the process XD .. bit lost here
03:16:34 <KageSenshi> (most local stuff i did are usually self funded)
03:16:42 <asmartgoat> have you got a ticket in famsco trac?
03:17:02 <KageSenshi> ok not yet
03:17:26 <azneita> the most pressing would be visa, please lodge one asap
03:17:36 <asmartgoat> #info Azneita is approved to apply for visa
03:17:49 <asmartgoat> #info asmartgoat has budget for travels and stay
03:18:02 <ke4qqq> KageSenshi: put one in famsco trac, but if it's sub-500 - just proceed, and keep your receipts
03:18:17 <bckurera> asmartgoat: are you sponsored for traveling?
03:18:31 <KageSenshi> ok
03:18:33 <asmartgoat> yes
03:18:40 <tuanta> great :)
03:18:41 <bckurera> nice to hear that
03:18:53 <tuanta> from where, to where?
03:19:10 <azneita> melbourne to brisbane, right?
03:19:33 <asmartgoat> no
03:19:36 <asmartgoat> adelaide to brisbane
03:19:41 <asmartgoat> i'll be in adelaide at the time
03:20:00 <azneita> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011
03:20:14 <azneita> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011
03:20:29 <asmartgoat> shall we move on
03:20:35 <asmartgoat> i have alot to talk about
03:21:10 <azneita> for those not up to speed, please follow the links for the event pages
03:21:25 <asmartgoat> moving on...
03:21:41 <asmartgoat> #topic Linux.conf.au - 24th to 29th January - Fedora stall - Budget - Confs
03:21:55 <asmartgoat> Alright
03:22:17 <asmartgoat> we have 5 attendees + red hat personell (2 at the moment)
03:23:02 <azneita> dgilmore and jsmith will be at LCA but will not be able to stay for Open Day
03:23:10 <cheryn> i'd just amend that and say we have at least 6 volunteers from red hat at the moment
03:23:11 <asmartgoat> #action if anyone here is attending please place yourself on the list
03:23:14 <asmartgoat> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/LCA_2011
03:23:23 <dgilmore> gday all
03:23:54 <azneita> glad you can join us dgilmore
03:24:00 <asmartgoat> could you please ask if they dont mind to place their names on the the list on link aboce
03:24:06 <asmartgoat> above*
03:24:07 <dgilmore> azneita: :) np
03:24:19 <dgilmore> asmartgoat: my name is on the page already
03:24:28 <azneita> we we're just discussing LCA 2011
03:24:31 <tuanta> I see :)
03:24:32 <asmartgoat> cool :)
03:24:52 <KageSenshi> ok created the ticket
03:25:02 <asmartgoat> Openday
03:25:04 <dramsey> Fantastic
03:25:06 <kaio> yeah
03:25:21 <asmartgoat> do we have needs for openday?
03:25:27 <asmartgoat> Swag, CD's Etc
03:25:40 <dramsey> kaio, you going right?
03:25:42 <tuanta> I see so many activities in LCA and FAD, great!
03:25:47 <bckurera> what is going to distribute in the event?
03:25:50 <kaio> dramsey: ya
03:25:52 <bckurera> F13 or F14
03:26:00 <tuanta> should be F14 only
03:26:01 * dgilmore thinks its awesome to see things happening in .au
03:26:04 <asmartgoat> i hope we can distribute f14
03:26:11 <bckurera> it is nice
03:26:15 <tuanta> +1
03:26:16 <dramsey> good kaio.
03:26:27 <dramsey> asmartgoat, any word on media from Harish?
03:26:27 <bckurera> did anyone check for the remaining F13 media with harish
03:26:33 <azneita> #info harish will be producing a big batch of F14 soon, we can hook that up for the event
03:26:36 <dramsey> bckurera, my thought, too
03:26:39 <dgilmore> we should only distribute f14
03:26:43 <asmartgoat> are you guys / girls organizing CD's  for LCA? (sgordon / cheryn )
03:26:48 <kaio> I got 20 pcs F12 here. :P
03:26:50 <bckurera> dramsey its nice :)
03:27:08 <asmartgoat> dramsey, harish said by feb. so thats not good :(
03:27:08 <azneita> do we have a number?
03:27:10 <sgordon> not that i'm aware of, i think we are pursuing the usb media creation station though
03:27:32 * dgilmore can see if there is any media in the US i can get my hands on
03:27:37 <dramsey> asmartgoat, need a backup plan...how about any unused media
03:27:45 <dramsey> thanks dgilmore
03:27:47 <asmartgoat> yes, that would be great dgilmore.
03:27:50 <asmartgoat> thanks
03:28:00 <dgilmore> i brought 750 cd/dvd's to FUDCon LATAM last year
03:28:07 <asmartgoat> azneita, do you have media?
03:28:22 <azneita> nothing yet on me
03:28:31 <asmartgoat> alright.
03:28:43 <asmartgoat> Moving on?
03:28:47 <tuanta> yes
03:28:50 <KageSenshi> ok
03:28:51 <dramsey> yes
03:28:54 <bckurera> asmartgoat what about the media then?
03:28:55 <asmartgoat> #topic FAD @ brisbane 2011
03:29:12 <asmartgoat> bckurera we'll have to organize
03:29:17 <asmartgoat> oh.
03:29:21 <azneita> #info dgilmore will try to get his hands on media for LCA 2011
03:29:29 <asmartgoat> yeah, but we need more :)
03:29:46 * dgilmore sadly wont be at the FAD
03:29:51 <asmartgoat> kaio, is it possible for you to get funding to make media localy?
03:30:18 <azneita> good question
03:30:25 <tuanta> media should be made locally
03:30:50 <asmartgoat> true
03:30:52 <bckurera> I paid $10 as custom feed for F13
03:30:58 <bckurera> fee*
03:30:59 <azneita> i believe it's possible to get funding, we just have to have numbers
03:31:01 <tuanta> in Vietnam, our team can burn >1,000 dics a day
03:31:28 <lcafiero> Sorry I'm late.
03:31:31 * azneita waves to lcafiero
03:31:36 <KageSenshi> hi lcafiero :)
03:31:37 <bckurera> I need to raise a point here, should ve print on dics and make them expensive then?
03:31:48 <tuanta> hi lcafiero
03:31:53 <asmartgoat> we should look profession
03:31:53 <asmartgoat> al
03:32:01 <tuanta> +
03:32:04 <tuanta> +1
03:32:06 <azneita> professional looking ones please
03:32:07 <KageSenshi> +1
03:32:09 <bckurera> or just distribute them with no printing on it
03:32:13 <azneita> it's LCA :)
03:32:25 <azneita> we want our best foot forward
03:32:29 <kaio> asmartgoat: making media here is "very" not econimic
03:33:04 <asmartgoat> why?
03:33:06 <azneita> which presents us an opportunity
03:33:13 <kaio> I can burn, but there will be no printing on the disc
03:33:28 <kaio> azneita: I could check out, but you know the living standard in AU
03:33:30 <asmartgoat> get you funding for a CD printer?
03:33:30 <bckurera> in Sri Lanka for 1000 CDs it will cost $100 (around) what about Aus
03:33:44 <asmartgoat> true
03:34:06 <kaio> in AU, a blank CD will be about that price
03:34:18 <kaio> I think not so, may be more.
03:34:21 <KageSenshi> if 1000CDs + tax is cheaper than producing in .au , then imo its better to just import
03:34:22 * azneita remembers the duplicator
03:34:23 <bckurera> kaio : bad to hear :(
03:34:32 <dramsey> azneita, how true...
03:34:33 <asmartgoat> fund a printer for kaio?
03:34:39 <kaio> I can burn. :) and print on it if I got a canon printer.
03:34:40 <dramsey> At least there is USB ability.
03:34:55 <dramsey> Idea/action...
03:35:06 * kaio is using officeject 5000 MFC bought 6 years ago
03:35:17 <bckurera> #idea Media should be produced locally
03:35:23 <kaio> bckurera: I agree
03:35:34 <asmartgoat> kaio, if you go down to officeworks you can normally get a printer that prints cds from $60 - 100
03:35:35 <azneita> the usb creation booth presents a great alternative to CD/DVDs
03:35:44 <tuanta> it will cost more to bring medias oversea
03:35:48 <kaio> asmartgoat: if so I could do it
03:35:56 <dramsey> you can do it!
03:35:59 <kaio> need to check out
03:36:02 <asmartgoat> tuanta, checked baggage. :)
03:36:11 <tuanta> yes
03:36:11 <kaio> dramsey: yeah! I could do it! (in hyper state)
03:36:13 <dgilmore> tuanta: as a one off i can bring it with me
03:36:14 <azneita> thanks kaio
03:36:20 <asmartgoat> 5 days does not need 10kg checked baggage
03:36:21 <bckurera> azneita <- are you saying to give USB free??
03:36:24 <asmartgoat> 15kg
03:36:32 <azneita> not :)
03:36:35 <dgilmore> but if we can get good pricing for replication locally then that would be good
03:36:42 <kaio> USB free, spare me one. :)
03:36:48 <dramsey> Always have a backup plan, just in case...
03:37:00 <tuanta> live CD is better
03:37:10 <bckurera> tuanta +1
03:37:10 <kaio> I see if I can get an asian shop, they usually do cheaper
03:37:17 <kaio> tuanta: ++
03:37:18 <tuanta> people can not erase it :)
03:37:29 <asmartgoat> +1
03:37:32 <KageSenshi> +1
03:37:34 <azneita> #action kaio will check for local production of LCA media
03:37:37 <bckurera> tuanta <- rather than its is cheaper
03:37:46 <kaio> tuanta: yeah, I think if usb there will be ppl re-line many times
03:37:46 <tuanta> +1
03:38:03 <bckurera> kaio <- how about the media with LCA logo on it :)
03:38:04 <dramsey> Good ideas guys
03:38:39 <azneita> #idea have LCA 2011 art from design team
03:39:06 <kaio> Fedora 14 - LCA2011 special limited edition.
03:39:06 <azneita> something fedora-related would be nice
03:39:21 <kaio> people collect that :P
03:39:29 <azneita> nice
03:39:40 <kaio> w/ a number and cert signed by dramsey
03:39:47 <bckurera> how about LCA travelling to me?
03:39:56 <asmartgoat> srry dc.
03:40:03 <bckurera> kaio <- budget?
03:40:13 <kaio> bckurera: my budget?
03:40:16 <dramsey> Would be good to have universal media, so in case not used...
03:40:32 <dramsey> There are great Fedora 14 cover designs
03:40:38 <dramsey> Your food for thought
03:40:43 <bckurera> kaio <- air fee and so on me from SL
03:41:08 <dramsey> asmartgoat, other needs for the FAD Day?
03:41:12 <kaio> bckurera: I am not FAMSCO yet
03:41:16 <asmartgoat> ah
03:41:38 <asmartgoat> we are going to have brunch before we arrive at LCA
03:41:40 <asmartgoat> not
03:41:41 <asmartgoat> lca
03:41:43 <asmartgoat> edge
03:42:05 <asmartgoat> we'll eat somewhere, australian :P.
03:42:08 <asmartgoat> kaio any ideas
03:42:14 <azneita> which reminds me, maybe it should be better to consolidate our budget requests into a single ticket for easier tracking
03:42:17 <kaio> asmartgoat: aust style?
03:42:29 <asmartgoat> yeah, you know, echidna
03:42:32 <asmartgoat> and kangaroo
03:42:38 <kaio> asmartgoat: if EDGE, you can have breakfast in southbank I guess
03:42:45 <asmartgoat> alright
03:42:46 <asmartgoat> :P
03:42:59 <asmartgoat> #idea breakfast at southbank
03:43:03 <bckurera> its all about Brisbane then
03:43:12 <asmartgoat> Ok,
03:43:22 <bckurera> i like to inquire about my participation who is the contact person?
03:43:23 <asmartgoat> now
03:43:35 <asmartgoat> participation in the FAD?
03:43:44 <azneita> what you guys think ^
03:44:26 <KageSenshi> azneita, +1
03:44:31 <dramsey> +1
03:44:32 <azneita> bckurera, everyone's encouraged to participate
03:44:41 <asmartgoat> alright,
03:44:46 <asmartgoat> #topic FAD talks
03:44:52 <dramsey> CMB to ADL, right bckurera?
03:45:05 <asmartgoat> Who wants to have talks on the day
03:45:07 <bckurera> can we get the rough cost
03:45:12 <bckurera> yes dramsey
03:45:19 <asmartgoat> #info proposed schedule is here -> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011
03:45:45 <kaio> in Brisbane for breakfast, you can choose Southbank (River view, 15 mins walk to EDGE), City (most people walks  by, 15 mins walk to EDGE), Riverside (CBD and bridge view, 25 mins walk to EDGE).
03:46:09 <asmartgoat> yes
03:46:16 <asmartgoat> so who wants to talk at FAD?
03:46:22 <azneita> \o/
03:46:28 <asmartgoat> yes?
03:46:37 <KageSenshi> i think i'll have one lightning talk
03:46:45 <tuanta> sorry, all friends. I have to go now
03:46:52 <dramsey> take care Tuan
03:46:53 <kaio> tuanta: take care cya :)
03:46:55 <tuanta> good to see you
03:46:56 <asmartgoat> alright tuan, cya
03:46:57 <azneita> glad you can join us tuan
03:46:57 <bckurera> see you tuanta :)
03:47:02 <tuanta> then will read the meeting log
03:47:04 <tuanta> thanks, bye
03:47:26 <asmartgoat> KageSenshi, i'll give you first lightning talk (10 minutes)
03:47:32 <cheryn> what sort of talks are you looking for? any theme in particular?
03:47:33 <KageSenshi> ok :)
03:47:34 <azneita> 1230: apac meeting - is this the 2011 planning?
03:47:35 <asmartgoat> no
03:47:39 <asmartgoat> just has to be related
03:47:46 <asmartgoat> to fedora, linux etc
03:47:54 <azneita> it has to be fedora-related, FAD
03:47:55 <asmartgoat> yes
03:47:56 <azneita> :)
03:48:00 <asmartgoat> Yes, azneita
03:48:28 <asmartgoat> #action will be conferencing for APAC meeting for dramsey + others :)
03:48:31 <KageSenshi> azneita, but not strictly fedora related right? (such as, stuff which exist in fedora repos)
03:48:31 <dramsey> For my talks, ibus as well as features like systemd and kernel are good stuff...
03:48:49 <asmartgoat> yeah, kagesenshi
03:49:00 <KageSenshi> ok
03:49:05 <dramsey> That is a good question, Cheryn
03:49:19 <bckurera> we all linux based :)
03:49:28 <asmartgoat> #action all people wanting to talk add a talk to the correct spot in the times http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_Brisbane_2011
03:49:33 <kaio> dramsey: you should get RH people come to FAD, there are ibus people in Brisbane.
03:49:49 <asmartgoat> yes red hat people are welcome
03:49:52 <dramsey> kaio, how true...my thought, too
03:50:06 <kaio> and there are desktop dev also
03:50:14 <dramsey> Excellent ideas!]
03:50:19 <asmartgoat> alright
03:50:36 <asmartgoat> kaio, i've already talked to you about fedora cake, but i need to make a design :)
03:50:44 <kaio> for L10N I could try to ask my friend who do translations in Chinese
03:50:58 <sgordon> chester?
03:51:02 <bckurera> I like cakes too :)
03:51:03 <dramsey> Should the ibus/desktop dev be an action/idea?
03:51:05 <kaio> sgordon: exactly
03:51:08 <sgordon> :)
03:51:36 <asmartgoat> sgordon, if you are coming to the FAD please add yourself :)
03:51:42 <azneita> FAD is shaping up to be fun hehe
03:51:48 <asmartgoat> yes :)
03:51:58 <kaio> azneita: it will be fun for Brisbane FAD
03:52:17 <asmartgoat> i have bad news
03:52:20 <dramsey> Additionally, I have had inquiries relevant to the fedora cloud concepts, too.  Food for thought.
03:52:21 <azneita> i suggest we place the meeting best practice before the apac meeting :)
03:52:25 <asmartgoat> !
03:52:34 <dramsey> what is up  asmartgoat?
03:52:49 <bckurera> go on asmartgoat
03:52:50 <asmartgoat> We will not be able to do a live feed to FUDCon tempe due to the time zones :(
03:53:11 <sgordon> i could talk about that dramsey
03:53:13 <asmartgoat> we will not be able to view the State of fedora speech.
03:53:23 <dramsey> Excellent sgordon!
03:53:25 <sgordon> i am presenting at the cloud mini-conf on deltacloud related stuff
03:53:31 <sgordon> but most of my testing has been using fedora
03:53:41 <dramsey> Fantastic!
03:53:47 <bckurera> +1
03:54:07 <asmartgoat> +1
03:54:11 <asmartgoat> alright
03:54:21 <dramsey> asmartgoat, I think that Pierros has been interested to try from his place in Europe...food for thought, too
03:54:26 <kaio> we can record
03:54:27 <azneita> # sgordon will have fedora cloud talk
03:54:32 <asmartgoat> i have one more topic before Bckurera can take over :)
03:54:38 <azneita> #info sgordon will have fedora cloud talk
03:54:45 <asmartgoat> i'll keep that in mind dramsey
03:54:50 <bckurera> i m ok asmartgoat
03:55:02 <asmartgoat> People with talks please go to the page and add them :)
03:55:05 <azneita> #action kaio will check on chester for ibus/desktop talk
03:55:09 <dramsey> asmartgoat, tuanta and his Pierros, are game for such
03:55:09 <asmartgoat> alright next topic?
03:55:12 <sgordon> i will probably keep it to discussing what the cloud SIG Have in f14 and what they are planning for f15 and beyond
03:55:19 <bckurera> #topic Booking of Fad
03:55:27 <asmartgoat> beat me to it!
03:55:28 <asmartgoat> :P
03:55:31 <asmartgoat> alright
03:55:34 <dramsey> sgordon, that is most excellent!
03:55:35 <asmartgoat> Now
03:55:36 <kaio> azneita: no, chester is L10N talk, ibus/desktop is another people
03:55:44 <asmartgoat> is everyone ok with the times for the FAD
03:56:03 <azneita> #action kaio will check on chester for L10N talk
03:56:04 <asmartgoat> 12pm - 4pm
03:56:12 <asmartgoat> excluding the lunch
03:56:16 <bckurera> better be in UTC asmartgoat
03:56:23 <dramsey> #idea Tuan to touch base with Pei
03:56:29 <asmartgoat> alright, i'll get them in utc soon..
03:56:39 <kaio> UTC+10
03:56:50 <dramsey> s/Pei/Pierros about that international connection from Europe
03:57:18 <kaio> 0200 - 0600 in UTC
03:57:32 <azneita> #info kaio suggested we record the FAD
03:57:38 <asmartgoat> thanks kaio
03:57:46 <asmartgoat> +1 kaio
03:57:50 <asmartgoat> video?
03:57:54 <kaio> for photography I am in!
03:57:56 <asmartgoat> i have a camera i'll bring
03:57:59 <asmartgoat> :)
03:58:18 * kaio will take camera and tripod
03:58:19 <azneita> #info kaio and asmartgoat will bring cameras to FAD
03:58:21 <bckurera> asmartgoat I added to my Gtalk please accept that :)
03:58:31 <asmartgoat> will do bckurera
03:58:40 <asmartgoat> alright
03:58:46 <bckurera> can we move then
03:58:51 <asmartgoat> do we have equiptment needs for the event?
03:58:57 <asmartgoat> and what rooms do we need
03:59:11 <asmartgoat> i need to confirm with SLQ
03:59:36 <asmartgoat> the window bays fit 13 people
03:59:38 <kaio> we need projector, internet, LAN hub/wireless?
03:59:39 <asmartgoat> so we might need to
03:59:41 <asmartgoat> two
03:59:53 <asmartgoat> (i'll ask for internet and projector)
03:59:59 <asmartgoat> shall we ask for two rooms?
04:00:06 <azneita> a whiteboard will be useful
04:00:17 <bckurera> azneita +1
04:00:21 <kaio> asmartgoat: two units of room? (if they could partition)
04:00:23 <asmartgoat> one  with projector and one with whiteboard
04:00:28 <asmartgoat> :)
04:00:42 <azneita> and lot's of electrical outlets
04:00:44 <dramsey> Great ideas
04:00:54 <bckurera> dramsey +1
04:00:59 <asmartgoat> #action 2 rooms, one with whiteboard and one with projector, both with a fedora friend finder
04:01:00 <kaio> I have ext cords. ;)
04:01:02 <asmartgoat> :)
04:01:12 <bckurera> we are moving to next topic
04:01:21 <asmartgoat> my laptop broke so iwont be bringing that :(
04:01:24 <asmartgoat> umm
04:01:25 <asmartgoat> yeah
04:01:31 <asmartgoat> your turn bckurera :)
04:01:32 <bckurera> #topic FAD Sri Lanka 2011
04:01:38 <bckurera> I m waitin till that :)
04:01:46 <kaio> bckurera: I like your topic.
04:01:53 <azneita> +1
04:01:57 <bckurera> So I have finnaly plns for a FAD in sri Lanka
04:01:59 <bckurera> for the first time
04:02:08 <bckurera> dates are not fixed
04:02:16 <bckurera> February or march
04:02:23 <bckurera> any advices on that?
04:02:37 <asmartgoat> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Sri_Lanka_2011
04:02:43 <asmartgoat> weekends are my best advice :)
04:03:10 <kaio> remember for meals
04:03:18 <asmartgoat> #info dates not fixed, feb or march
04:03:21 <bckurera> and I need some facilitators
04:03:27 <dramsey> bckurera, with Brisbane at the end of January, probably shoot for March...
04:03:32 <bckurera> from Fedora Am
04:03:45 <asmartgoat> +1 dramsey
04:03:48 <bckurera> thanks dramsey then i ll look for march
04:03:52 <dramsey> I forsee additional IRCs to secure the LCA and Brisbane FAD, food for thought
04:04:25 <bckurera> anyone here like to see Sri Lanka in March
04:04:26 <azneita> #action IRC meetings for LCA and FAD Brisbane
04:04:26 <dramsey> bckurera, you will be apart of helping the ideas between those events and be prepared for your own FAD..
04:05:10 <azneita> +1
04:05:13 <bckurera> Participation of Fedora Am. will make the event excellant apart from the SL Am.
04:05:26 <azneita> #info FAD Sri Lanka needs facilitators
04:05:54 <bckurera> and I need some sponsorships for the FAD SL 2011
04:05:55 <asmartgoat> you should contact people local that can fly in cheap. :)
04:06:09 <dramsey> asmartgoat and azneita, +1
04:06:11 <bckurera> #info Sponsorship for FAD Sri Lanka 2011
04:06:33 <asmartgoat> +`
04:06:34 <asmartgoat> +1
04:06:43 <azneita> can't remember my geography but SL is near india right
04:06:50 <bckurera> any other ideas that will help me for FAD SL 2011?
04:07:00 <azneita> there are lot's of fedora ambasasdors in india
04:07:03 <bckurera> azneita <- yes
04:07:20 <bckurera> I like to have one from India liek susmit
04:07:27 <bckurera> any indiand here?
04:07:28 <dramsey> Inquire with the fedora india mailing list
04:07:28 <azneita> it will be great to get in touch with them
04:07:45 <bckurera> azneita +1
04:08:00 <asmartgoat> #action inquire with fedora india mailing list - about SL FAD 2011
04:08:10 <dramsey> bckurera, we could try connectivity internationally, too back to other Fedora locations...
04:08:34 <bckurera> ok
04:08:59 <bckurera> hope we all can wear APAC Tshirts for FAD SL 2011
04:09:01 <bckurera> :)
04:09:22 <asmartgoat> same for Brisbane :)
04:09:24 <dramsey> Sounds good
04:09:31 <bckurera> I ll update the event page on wiki soon
04:09:40 <azneita> btw, fudcon india is also happening next year, would be useful to check the timing
04:09:41 <bckurera> need to finalize the event and let you all know
04:10:07 <bckurera> I ll plan it on and of Feb then it is safe right?
04:10:22 <azneita> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:India_2011
04:10:22 <bckurera> any other ideas?
04:10:35 <azneita> i think early in the year will be ok
04:10:39 <bckurera> azneita thanks
04:10:46 <KageSenshi> (in .my .. next week we'll be having a small meetup/activity day)
04:10:50 <KageSenshi> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/MalaysianTeam/Events/Meetup_KL_Dec2010
04:11:21 <bckurera> KageSenshi <- congratz
04:11:25 <KageSenshi> which pretty much scratching our itches :P
04:11:43 <dramsey> KageSenshi, you can do it!
04:11:59 <bckurera> so we ll move to the next topic then
04:12:10 <bckurera> we can talk lot about FAD SL 2011 in next meetings
04:12:19 <bckurera> I ll start working on that from today :)
04:12:20 <azneita> please do bckurera
04:12:27 <bckurera> thanks for all your help
04:12:43 <dramsey> bckurera, you can do it!
04:12:43 * asmartgoat is writing out the application for EDGE, sorry if i seem away
04:13:02 * azneita congratulates KageSenshi
04:13:12 <bckurera> #topic APAC plans
04:13:23 <dramsey> The APACK box!
04:13:31 <KageSenshi> bckurera, azneita , dramsey .. its not even started yet XD ..
04:14:02 <azneita> halfway there :)
04:14:31 <azneita> while waiting for asmartgoat, let's tackle future meetings' timing
04:14:44 <KageSenshi> :)
04:14:49 <azneita> we forgot about that last meet
04:14:50 <kaio> asmartgoat: thx for effort!
04:15:07 <dramsey> Good idea - next week, December 5th and 19th?  Different timing?
04:15:18 <kaio> KageSenshi: cool
04:15:26 <azneita> there's a suggestion for 18UTC right?
04:15:54 <bckurera> omg 23.30 in Sri Lanka
04:16:00 <dramsey> azneita, I remember kaio 's idea of making timing cool for India Participants
04:16:36 <azneita> which brings us to the basic question - are we moving?
04:17:08 <bckurera> #idea Changing the APAC meeting time
04:17:14 <kaio> dramsey: ??
04:17:14 <azneita> personally, i like the 3UTC timing
04:17:24 <bckurera> ok we ll do so
04:17:24 <kaio> oh meeting time
04:17:34 <bckurera> frist please add your all sugessions
04:17:57 <bckurera> I m still ok with 0300 UTC
04:18:01 * kaio still stuck to make time working for both India/SL and NZ
04:18:17 * asmartgoat back
04:18:40 <azneita> kaio, what time works for them?
04:18:40 <dramsey> kaio, I remember something about evening time, but one timing there is #fedora-zh meeting...
04:19:22 <azneita> dramsey, i also remember that one, i can probably work both ways
04:19:49 <dramsey> me, too, flexible, would be good to get the people to attend, you guys are doing great for today.
04:19:54 <dramsey> Other thoughts?
04:20:15 <bckurera> what is the final decision on the time on APAC meeting
04:20:28 <asmartgoat> im ok with 3:00 utc
04:20:33 <asmartgoat> but i can do earlier
04:20:37 <azneita> i suggest we stay put right now, then move when we have something from india, fair enough?
04:20:45 <asmartgoat> ok
04:20:47 <bckurera> then what about 0200 UTC
04:20:51 <dramsey> ok
04:21:02 <dramsey> Next meeting in early December?
04:21:04 <asmartgoat> does 0200 UTC exclude anyone here?
04:21:05 <kaio> http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?fbid=180169545331814&set=a.154836151198487.36039.100000163085691
04:21:07 <asmartgoat> 8th Dec
04:21:11 <kaio> oops
04:21:33 <azneita> 2utc is fine with me 10am
04:21:36 <kaio> ignore the url
04:21:48 * azneita checks it out :)
04:21:51 <azneita> hehe
04:22:03 <asmartgoat> lo
04:22:05 <asmartgoat> l
04:22:09 <KageSenshi> utc2 should be fine for me too (unless i woke up late :P)
04:22:35 <asmartgoat> So its settled UTC0200?
04:22:37 <azneita> the timing works for you bckurera?
04:23:14 <azneita> +1
04:23:15 <bckurera> yes even 0100 UTC is ok for me
04:23:25 <asmartgoat> #action UTC2 to be our new time for meetings. (what a change! :P)
04:23:33 <dramsey> checking
04:23:34 <asmartgoat> #info UTC 0200
04:23:38 <dramsey> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_meeting_channel
04:23:39 <azneita> haha
04:23:41 <dramsey> Which date?
04:24:01 <bckurera> #info APAC meeting on 0200 UTC
04:24:02 <asmartgoat> i'll chuck us back an hour on that page :)
04:24:08 <bckurera> same sunday is good
04:24:24 <dramsey> Got it, for Sunday, perfect...next meeting, December 5th?
04:24:27 <azneita> that's settled
04:24:34 <asmartgoat> settled.
04:24:35 <azneita> apack box, asmartgoat
04:24:44 <dramsey> APACK box, the url of choice
04:24:45 <asmartgoat> hmm no news :(
04:24:48 <bckurera> topic to again :)
04:24:53 <asmartgoat> they havent got back to us
04:25:10 <dramsey> How about lcafiero 's OLPC idea?
04:25:10 <asmartgoat> we should enquire for funding for the other components tho
04:25:21 <asmartgoat> i'll do that in a week :)
04:25:22 <dramsey> Ah, understood asmartgoat
04:25:33 <asmartgoat> we're going to need to borrow lcafieros OLPC :)
04:25:34 <azneita> we can pilot-test it for LCA
04:25:51 <azneita> then replicate the experience for the remaining five
04:25:56 <azneita> sounds like a plan?
04:26:05 <asmartgoat> yes
04:26:15 <azneita> it's settled then :)
04:26:41 <azneita> we'll probably change the XO part for some, but the rest will remain the same
04:26:42 <dramsey> Develop the prototype, sounds like an action/idea
04:27:00 <asmartgoat> #idea develop prototype of APACK box
04:27:04 <bckurera> we are 1.5 hrs here now :)
04:27:08 <asmartgoat> alrigh are we on openfloor?
04:27:19 <azneita> i think we are
04:27:24 <dramsey> Sure, yup!
04:27:29 <bckurera> #topic Open Floor
04:27:32 <asmartgoat> nope.. lets go to open
04:27:35 <asmartgoat> !
04:27:39 * azneita wonders aloud if kaio nailed that interview
04:27:48 <bckurera> I have a point to raise here
04:28:05 <bckurera> #idea APAC need to have an year plan
04:28:08 <dramsey> I voted for kaio and lcafiero
04:28:10 <asmartgoat> #action Can everyone have a look at this page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/sandbox
04:28:12 <asmartgoat> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/sandbox
04:28:34 <asmartgoat> I want to know if I should make that the default page for APAC
04:28:58 <azneita> the dung really jumps off the page :)
04:28:59 <bckurera> what about having an year plan for APAC
04:29:04 <asmartgoat> azneita lol
04:29:31 <azneita> bckurera, we're tackling that on FAD Brisbane but it will help if we start early
04:29:35 <kaio> azneita: the scholarship?
04:29:39 <bckurera> then we can organize well
04:29:55 <bckurera> what all think about that
04:30:04 <bckurera> shall we start a wiki page for APAC year plan
04:30:11 <asmartgoat> no questions, suggestions for the page?? http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/APAC/sandbox
04:30:20 <azneita> haha
04:30:27 <bckurera> As other regions we have to organize well
04:30:32 <bckurera> with better communication
04:30:32 <azneita> 1 by 1 please :)
04:30:39 <asmartgoat> +1
04:30:44 <bckurera> that will make APAC perfect
04:30:57 <bckurera> I like to work on that and make APAC remarkable :)
04:31:06 <azneita> bckurera, i feel you man
04:31:13 <kaio> azneita: the icons could be stay closer
04:31:17 <asmartgoat> APAC the role model :)
04:31:21 <bckurera> hope we ll have some more members in FAmSCo
04:31:40 <asmartgoat> kaio, hmm.. i'll have a look into that
04:31:41 <bckurera> so we ll have a nice support y dont we make it for our ow good and grow
04:31:42 <kaio> hope dramsey becomes famsco
04:31:48 <azneita> haha, i think we have a great group of people right now
04:31:50 <asmartgoat> (how wides your screen lol)
04:32:07 <bckurera> hats off :)
04:32:07 <dramsey> hopes worthy Fedora Ambassadors get the FAmSco/Board
04:32:08 <dramsey> :)
04:32:12 <kaio> asmartgoat: 1680 x 1050 :)
04:32:19 <asmartgoat> :)
04:32:54 <azneita> in any case, i think we're making progress and that's the point - making progress
04:33:06 <asmartgoat> alright
04:33:11 <asmartgoat> +1 to azneita
04:33:11 <lcafiero> If you want more members in FAmSCo, don't forget to vote.
04:33:16 <dramsey> Action begets progress
04:33:17 <azneita> haha
04:33:28 <bckurera> I allready did :)
04:33:28 <azneita> lcafiero: nicely put
04:33:34 <asmartgoat> <insert propaganda here>
04:33:50 <bckurera> So what all think abut mu idea
04:34:11 <bckurera> my*
04:34:14 <azneita> i think it's cool, if you can start a wiki page, we can take that up as a group
04:34:23 <dramsey> +1 wiki
04:34:31 <bckurera> i ll do it and post soon
04:34:37 <azneita> thanks bckurera
04:34:43 <bckurera> no worries
04:34:50 <asmartgoat> +1
04:35:00 <bckurera> we ll make APAC better then Fedora will be the best
04:35:01 <azneita> about asmartgoat's dabbling in wikis?
04:35:14 <asmartgoat> shall we close?
04:35:37 <bckurera> ok then before organizing events
04:35:53 <bckurera> we all need to look at the year plan and use it to optimize the results
04:35:57 <bckurera> all agree with it
04:36:01 * azneita checks the clock - needs to go out in a bit
04:36:18 <bckurera> we can try with the 2011 year plan then
04:36:19 <bckurera> :)
04:36:29 <bckurera> ok can we close now
04:36:36 <asmartgoat> nothing more to say
04:36:37 <asmartgoat> 10
04:36:38 <asmartgoat> 9
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04:36:41 <asmartgoat> 7
04:36:41 <bckurera> i think we had a nice meeting with lot of new ideas
04:36:42 <asmartgoat> 6
04:36:45 <asmartgoat> 5
04:36:46 <asmartgoat> 4
04:36:47 <asmartgoat> +1
04:36:48 <asmartgoat> 3
04:36:50 <asmartgoat> 2
04:36:50 <bckurera> thanks for all for being part
04:36:51 <asmartgoat> 1
04:36:53 <bckurera> .05
04:36:53 <asmartgoat> thankyou
04:36:58 <asmartgoat> #endmeeting