23:00:08 <Sparks> #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings
23:00:08 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Nov  3 23:00:08 2010 UTC.  The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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23:00:08 <Sparks> #meetingname Fedora Docs
23:00:08 <Sparks> #topic Roll Call
23:00:08 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_docs'
23:00:12 * Sparks is here
23:00:34 * jjmcd 
23:01:49 <jjmcd> Wow, that many crying in their beer after last night?
23:02:09 <Sparks> Apparently
23:03:17 <jjmcd> Ahhh, another country heard from
23:03:25 * Gearoid is here
23:04:03 * rudi_ is here
23:04:14 <Sparks> two new countries
23:04:55 <Sparks> Okay, lets get started.
23:05:00 <Sparks> #topic Follow up on last week's action items
23:05:05 <Sparks> #chair jjmcd
23:05:05 <zodbot> Current chairs: Sparks jjmcd
23:05:13 <Sparks> Sparks to broadcast that All Docs should be published no later than Monday at 23:59 UTC via email
23:05:16 <Sparks> Completed
23:05:23 <Sparks> #action Sparks to add creating and publishing links to the Docs wiki page
23:05:28 <Sparks> nb: You here?
23:05:33 <Sparks> nb to get the Bugzilla owners.list sync script fixed to use git.
23:07:14 <Sparks> rudi to add "get a bugzilla component" to the "Creating a new Guide" page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_new_guide
23:07:19 <Sparks> #action nb to get the Bugzilla owners.list sync script fixed to use git.
23:07:36 <Sparks> rudi_: Did you add the bz stuff to that wiki page?
23:07:45 <rudi_> Ah no :(
23:08:03 <Sparks> #action rudi to add "get a bugzilla component" to the "Creating a new Guide" page http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Creating_a_new_guide
23:08:07 <rudi_> Ta
23:08:20 <Sparks> Okay, I think that's all the old stuff... moving along
23:08:26 <Sparks> #topic Docs Project leader elections
23:08:50 <Sparks> Last year we didn't have anyone step up to take my place
23:08:57 <jjmcd> Ahhhh, that's why nobody is here
23:08:57 <Sparks> I'm hoping this year will be different
23:09:57 <Sparks> Apparently
23:10:13 <Sparks> I'm hoping that things will be different this time around.
23:10:35 <Sparks> For one, I'm contemplating returning to school for my Masters which will definitely take time away from here.
23:11:07 <Sparks> #action Sparks to bring to the Docs list the subject of a replacement for him for Docs Project lead.
23:11:15 <jjmcd> Well, it looks like /me will be having a lot of cycles consumed by MSP until midyear anyway
23:11:38 <Sparks> MSP?
23:11:42 <Sparks> Oh
23:11:48 <jjmcd> Michigan State Police
23:12:03 <Sparks> So if anyone would like to step up I'd really appreciate it!
23:12:11 * sgordon is here
23:12:57 <Gearoid> yeah, elections are much more fun when there are candidates ;P
23:12:57 * sgordon reads the backlog and is no longer here
23:13:05 <jjmcd> LOL
23:13:07 <Sparks> #idea 10 Nov - Folks that want to be considered for the leadership role should have their proposal sent to the Docs list and be present in the meeting
23:13:24 <jjmcd> I'm pushing for Zach
23:13:29 <Sparks> #idea 17 Nov - Elections for Docs Project leader
23:14:22 <Sparks> Anyone have any other comments?
23:14:22 <jjmcd> . #idea - People who are absent are eligible and unable to defend themselves
23:14:29 <Sparks> :)
23:15:09 <Sparks> Okay... moving along
23:15:18 <Sparks> #topic Release Notes
23:15:24 <Sparks> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Notes_schedule
23:15:28 <Sparks> jjmcd: How goes it?
23:15:29 <jjmcd> A few things
23:15:44 <jjmcd> 1) RPM went out, thanks Zach and Ben for the karma
23:16:01 <jjmcd> 2) Another RPM with "final" translations in a week
23:16:35 * nb_ is here
23:16:40 <jjmcd> 3) WARNING - publican publish corrupts files in tmp/ so you cannot do a publish before making the tar for the rpm
23:17:20 <jjmcd> I did send a note to L10N re: zero day POTs
23:17:42 <jjmcd> Can't think of anything else on RNs unless there are questions
23:18:05 <Sparks> jjmcd: How many 0-day updates are there?
23:18:25 <jjmcd> Just a couple.  Mostly the removal of the systemd text
23:18:31 <jjmcd> so the additional translations are tiny
23:18:46 <jjmcd> Interestingly, they changed some languages a lot, others not at all
23:18:56 <Sparks> odd
23:19:03 <jjmcd> Not sure why Catalan went from 99% to 80%
23:19:14 <jjmcd> but NL, FR stayed at 100
23:19:27 <Sparks> very odd
23:19:30 <jjmcd> yes
23:19:46 * Sparks wonders if there is a Publican bug in there somewhere
23:20:33 <jjmcd> Hard to say.  There were some other changes shortly before the last.  L10N list has comments that seem to indicate there may be tfx issues
23:21:14 <jjmcd> But now there is a clear break IT @ 97, ZH @ 27
23:21:26 <jjmcd> So no question about who gets into the rpm
23:21:41 <jjmcd> Oh, and I also updated the web with what was in the rpm
23:22:34 <Sparks> Awesome job
23:23:12 <jjmcd> L10N been doin good
23:23:24 <Sparks> yes
23:23:30 <Sparks> Okay, anything else?
23:23:40 <jjmcd> not from here
23:24:45 <Sparks> #topic Guide Status
23:25:22 <Sparks> I believe all the guides got published
23:25:26 <Sparks> Anyone have anything?
23:25:53 <sgordon> umm i wanted to talk about the cloud guide...
23:26:03 <sgordon> but as it doesnt exist that might be better left to open floor
23:26:23 <Sparks> sgordon: It exists!  It lives!
23:26:28 <sgordon> !!
23:26:37 <Sparks> sgordon: I just don't have any information to put IN the guide.
23:26:40 <Sparks> sgordon: Go ahead
23:26:42 <sgordon> yes
23:26:47 <sgordon> i am hoping to help out with that
23:27:06 <sgordon> there is a meeting of the cloud sig on thursday at 2100 UTC (7am friday for me) that i'm going to attend
23:27:09 <Sparks> excellent
23:27:24 <sgordon> i am hoping to get some detail on running fedora on rackspace as it appears we have someone in the community who works there
23:27:29 <sgordon> and has been setting up the images
23:28:17 <Sparks> sgordon: Have you pulled down the git repo?
23:28:25 <sgordon> doing it now :)
23:28:44 <Sparks> awesome job
23:28:51 <nb_> sgordon, yeah, rackerhacker is the one that makes their images
23:28:52 <Sparks> #info sgordon to start work on the Cloud Guide
23:29:00 <nb_> sgordon, major dot hayden at rackspace.com
23:29:02 <Sparks> rbergeron: ^^^
23:29:14 <sgordon> thanks nb_, i saw he has responded on list as well :)
23:29:31 <nb_> sgordon, yeah
23:31:15 <Sparks> Okay, anything else?
23:32:18 <Sparks> Okay, lets move on
23:32:31 <Sparks> #topic Outstanding BZ Tickets
23:32:36 <Sparks> #link http://tinyurl.com/lbrq84
23:33:18 <Sparks> I like the use of BZ for tracking bugs AND tasks
23:33:55 <jjmcd> How did I get the klog bug?  I thought someone who knew that program was going to do it. (And I wonder why I didn't notice that earlier)
23:34:09 <Sparks> So if you use BZ for a task then please use "task" in the keyword
23:34:40 * Sparks thinks jjmcd should visit his "front page" on BZ
23:35:11 * jjmcd swatted a few, commented on a few, and even filed a few in the past week or so
23:35:19 <Sparks> ++
23:35:35 <jjmcd> I think rudi gets all the ones I wrote :-)
23:35:40 <Sparks> heh
23:36:05 <Sparks> rudi_ wishes his paycheck was based on the number of BZ tickets assigned to him
23:36:19 <rudi_> Heh :)
23:36:31 <Sparks> Okay, anything else?
23:37:50 <Sparks> #topic Open floor discussion
23:38:00 <Sparks> Okay, anyone have anything they'd like to discuss?
23:38:11 <jjmcd> I have an OT question for nb
23:38:20 <jjmcd> nb, you made some cryptic comments re: new package and then had to leave before I could get clarification.  Did you mean to say that the provenpackager who took the bug will do whatever magic is necessary?
23:39:40 <jjmcd> hmm, maybe he's disappeared again.  Nick seems to be a busy guy.
23:39:52 <Sparks> He's just too busy for us
23:40:57 <Sparks> Anyone else?
23:42:04 <Sparks> Just a public service reminder...  Time change is a great time to change the batteries in your smoke detectors, CO detectors, and All-Hazards Radio receivers...
23:42:14 <Sparks> Have a great day everyone!
23:42:20 <sgordon> lol
23:42:21 <jjmcd> Thanks Sparks
23:42:39 <Sparks> #endmeeting