05:07:07 <juhp> #startmeeting i18n 05:07:07 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Sep 9 05:07:07 2010 UTC. The chair is juhp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 05:07:07 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 05:07:21 <juhp> #meetingname i18n 05:07:21 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n' 05:07:34 <pravins> hi 05:07:36 <juhp> ok welcome to this week's i18n project meeting 05:07:41 <juhp> hi 05:07:49 <dychen_> HI 05:07:51 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-09-09 05:07:55 <paragan> hi 05:07:56 <juhp> is the agenda page 05:08:05 <dueno> hi 05:08:32 <epico_laptop> hi 05:09:19 <juhp> not too much agenda - so will try to keep the meeting bit brief if possible 05:10:17 <juhp> well guess we better get started then 05:10:31 <juhp> #topic F14 05:10:57 <pravins> paragan: juhp can we add new fonts added recently in fedora in Documentation_I18n_Beat, i.e. google font directory? 05:11:27 <juhp> pravins: maybe - are they international? :) 05:11:28 <paragan> sure 05:11:42 <paragan> all are latin fonts 05:11:47 <jni> hi 05:11:50 <juhp> ok 05:12:02 <juhp> guess there is not Fonts beat? 05:12:05 <juhp> no 05:12:11 <juhp> guess there is no Fonts beat? 05:12:16 * pravins really thinking to take some mileage for fedora from New rupee symbol 05:12:31 <pravins> i.e pushing lohit with added new rupee symbol sign 05:12:51 <juhp> pravins: you could mention if you like 05:13:13 <pravins> juhp: yes, sure that's a nice point for fedora 05:13:18 <juhp> if there is no Fonts beat - anyone want to make one? 05:14:07 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_Fonts_Beat 05:14:12 <juhp> anyway there is 05:14:23 <juhp> so please add google directory there 05:14:29 <pravins> juhp: thanks 05:14:47 <juhp> it is not really relevant to i18n IMHO 05:15:08 <juhp> so next week is F14 Beta freeze 05:15:11 <pravins> juhp: ok, no props 05:15:28 * juhp not really 100% how bodhi plays with the freeze 05:16:17 <juhp> if packages are in testings before the freeze can they still all go into dist-f14? 05:16:46 <juhp> maybe they have to be stable before the freeze? 05:16:55 <paragan> not sure 05:17:21 <paragan> good to get all our packages Karma and pushed to stable 05:17:22 <juhp> well if so we are already effectively frozen, hmm so maybe not? 05:17:30 <juhp> anyway 05:18:02 <juhp> next devel milestone is 2010-10-18 Final Change Deadline 05:19:14 <juhp> ah maybe bodhi is good until that freeze? 05:19:26 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change_deadlines 05:19:49 <juhp> also reminder next week there is https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-09-16_AnacondaTranslationKeyboard 05:19:57 <juhp> F14: 33 bugs (+4); 17 NEW (+2) 05:20:02 <juhp> bugs a bit up 05:20:27 <juhp> any F14 issues to discuss? 05:21:48 <juhp> paragan: thanks for reporting the gettext-devel conflict 05:22:38 <juhp> guess I will beta put on my laptop 05:22:46 <juhp> put beta even 05:23:33 <juhp> oh any more thoughts on splitting of zh comps? 05:23:46 <juhp> perhaps it is a bit late now for f14 05:24:21 <juhp> # bug stats 05:24:28 <juhp> #topic bug stats 05:24:37 <juhp> rawhide: 40 bugs (-2); 18 NEW (-1) 05:24:43 <juhp> F13: 55 bugs (+1); 30 NEW (0) 05:24:43 <juhp> F12: 41 bugs (-10), 23 NEW (-9) 05:25:40 <juhp> #topic fonts/rendering 05:25:57 <juhp> any fonts or rendering issues? 05:26:09 <juhp> perhaps we should separate them 05:26:18 <juhp> 32 fonts (+2); 20 font (+1) bugs 05:27:20 <juhp> 11 and 13 NEW 05:29:26 <juhp> 3 FTBFS 05:31:26 <juhp> #topic input methods 05:31:59 <juhp> fujiwarat: do you know if phuang is back yet? 05:32:32 <fujiwarat> Yes, today I'm talking with him about ibus. 05:32:37 <juhp> ok 05:32:41 <juhp> cool 05:33:13 <fujiwarat> He's interested how Windows treats surrounding feature. 05:33:27 <juhp> I see 05:33:33 <fujiwarat> I googled it but could not find the topic now. 05:34:34 <fujiwarat> Hmm.., probably I need to decide it by next Tuesday? 05:35:09 <juhp> fujiwarat: you mean for f14? 05:35:24 <fujiwarat> Yes 05:36:11 <juhp> well I don't think it is a f14 blocker :) but would be nice to get it in of course though main thing would be to get it accepted upstream 05:38:15 <fujiwarat> I think it's not blocker so I thought I need to think whether the feature is integrated in f14 or not by next Tuesday. 05:38:25 <juhp> fujiwarat: true 05:38:32 <juhp> right 05:38:42 <fujiwarat> ok 05:38:52 <juhp> otherwise it could be an f14 update say :) 05:39:49 <juhp> I am still trying to detemine the differences in compose sequences between gtk and X 05:40:32 <juhp> afaict gtk compose supports most of those from X en_US.utf8 rules 05:41:05 <juhp> so not sure if only difference is other locale sequences 05:41:46 <juhp> fujiwarat: do you have newer ibus for f14 for testing the xkb changes? 05:42:06 <juhp> any other input related topics or news? 05:43:24 <fujiwarat> I had investigated other issues so I don't update xkb yet but now xkb setting is moved to ibus-setup Advanced tab. 05:43:34 <juhp> cool 05:44:04 <juhp> fujiwarat: so guess it will be in Beta? 05:44:22 <fujiwarat> Yes, I think it. 05:44:26 <juhp> great 05:44:47 <juhp> #topic package reviews 05:44:54 <juhp> 14 open 05:45:03 <juhp> any need any attention? 05:46:14 <juhp> dychen_: does ibus-chewing need MakerDialog yet? 05:46:30 <dychen_> juhp, Not yet. 05:47:24 <juhp> I see nkumar packaged ibus-table-other 05:48:46 <nkumar> hi, yep I would need a package review :) 05:49:48 <juhp> #topic open 05:49:59 <juhp> anything else? :) 05:50:18 <epico_laptop> one question about autoconf. 05:50:23 <juhp> anyone have any updates or news to share? 05:50:28 <juhp> epico_laptop: aha 05:51:14 <epico_laptop> in the past, the autoconf build 3 static library in 3 directorys. How to merge the 3 static library into one? 05:52:03 <juhp> maybe not autoconf? 05:52:13 <epico_laptop> sorry, automake. 05:52:17 <juhp> ah 05:52:18 <dychen_> epico_laptop, Wanna try cmake? :-) 05:52:24 <epico_laptop> any guide? 05:52:51 <juhp> you want static or just shared? 05:52:58 <epico_laptop> dychen_: thanks. :) 05:53:03 <epico_laptop> just static. 05:53:08 <juhp> dychen_: yeah - autotools is not fun 05:53:16 <juhp> epico_laptop: why? :) 05:53:49 <epico_laptop> the static library is provided to library users, I think one is easy for users. 05:54:12 <juhp> well perhaps we can take the question off-line - I don't have a quick answer - or anyone have an idea now? 05:54:31 <juhp> epico_laptop: in fedora basically static libs are deprecated 05:54:43 <juhp> should go into -static subpackage anyway 05:54:53 <epico_laptop> thanks. I see. 05:55:07 <dychen_> juhp, perhaps epico_laptop want to use some tool like valgrind. 05:55:11 <juhp> most packages remove all static libs when building 05:55:36 <epico_laptop> dychen_: why? 05:56:10 <fujiwarat> Probably you could remove '--disable-static' in spec file. 05:56:23 <fujiwarat> %configure --disable-static 05:56:39 <dychen_> epico_laptop, static are easier to debug with valgrind. 05:56:43 <juhp> well seems there are 3 static libs and he wants 1 05:56:58 <juhp> epico_laptop: which package btw? 05:57:03 <epico_laptop> libpinyin. 05:57:07 <epico_laptop> on github.com 05:57:13 <juhp> anyway other other topics before we close? :) 05:57:37 <juhp> epico_laptop: ok - so why does it generate 3 libs? 05:57:47 <juhp> s/other// 05:57:57 <epico_laptop> I separate it into 3 directories. 05:58:54 <juhp> so can't you tell automake to build one lib from the sources in the subdirs? 05:59:20 <juhp> maybe automake is not optimal for that 05:59:58 <juhp> anyway close the meeting around here 06:00:21 <juhp> thanks everyone 06:01:17 <juhp> #endmeeting