05:04:51 <juhp> #startmeeting i18n
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05:04:59 <juhp> #meetingname i18n
05:04:59 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'i18n'
05:05:00 <pravins> hi juhp :)
05:05:02 <dychen_> hi
05:05:04 <epico_laptop> hi
05:05:18 <tagoh> hi
05:05:42 <dueno> hi
05:05:48 <juhp> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-08-05
05:08:23 <juhp> sorry just updating the stats a bit
05:09:16 <juhp> let's start then
05:09:32 <juhp> #topic bugs day
05:09:47 <juhp> just a reminder we talked about this last week already
05:10:06 <juhp> we probably need to wait for f14 alpha before deciding on a date
05:10:17 <juhp> let me move it to the F14 section next week
05:10:38 <juhp> or any comments before moving on?
05:10:55 <juhp> #topic F14
05:11:21 <juhp> F14 is branched and converging on alpha release
05:11:40 <pravins> juhp: its remind me fedora indin i18n meeting as well :)
05:11:41 <juhp> TC2 installs with an anaconda update
05:11:49 <juhp> pravins: ah yes
05:12:08 <pravins> i will compose mail soon
05:12:13 <juhp> pravins: cool
05:13:26 <juhp> relnotes (docsbeat) are open
05:13:41 <juhp> I am wondering what we need to document for f14
05:13:47 <juhp> any thoughts on that?
05:14:02 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Documentation_I18n_Beat
05:14:13 <epico_laptop> mention the SC/TC fonts improvement available on F13 updates?
05:14:18 <juhp> I think I just mentioned input-pad and eekboard there so far
05:14:41 <juhp> epico_laptop: it is also new for F14?
05:15:01 <epico_laptop> juhp: I think it is not mention for f13.
05:15:14 <juhp> feel free to add any bullet points etc and we can edit/polish later
05:15:52 <epico_laptop> OK. maybe also zenheiset script in wqy-zenhei-fonts, it seems only a few user know this tool.
05:16:12 <juhp> epico_laptop: please
05:16:20 <epico_laptop> np
05:17:48 <juhp> 2 F14Target bugs
05:18:15 <juhp> I added man-pages-de today - well actually also to F14alpha but not sure if it is really a blocker
05:19:27 <juhp> .bug 614373
05:19:29 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 614373 freetype-2.4.1 is available - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=614373
05:19:33 <juhp> how about freetype?
05:20:37 <nkumar> hi
05:20:53 <juhp> perhaps we should talk to the desktop team about that?
05:21:15 <tagoh> a bit late to get it updated?
05:22:58 <juhp> hm maybe
05:24:33 <juhp> ok
05:24:48 <juhp> anyone know if
05:25:09 <juhp> .bug 583731
05:25:10 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 583731 man-pages-de has file conflicts with man-db - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=583731
05:25:13 <juhp> is a blocker
05:25:30 <juhp> well probably F14Blocker but not alpha I would say?
05:25:49 <juhp> any other f14 bugs to highlight?
05:27:05 <juhp> #topic bug stats
05:28:06 <juhp> rawhide: 37 bugs; 16 NEW
05:28:16 <juhp> F14: 32 bugs; 15 NEW
05:29:06 <juhp> F13: 45 bugs (+4); 22 NEW (+5)
05:29:54 <juhp> F12: 60 bugs (-3), 38 NEW (0)
05:30:19 <juhp> looking forward to the bug days so we can clean up more
05:31:45 <paragan> yes
05:32:21 * nkumar nkumar wants to have a bot who could solve his bugs, while he enjoys :)
05:33:05 * juhp looks through the rawhide and f14 bugs
05:34:26 <juhp> paragan: guess you can close:
05:34:29 <juhp> .bug 620709
05:34:31 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 620709 iso-codes-3.19 is available - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=620709
05:34:41 <paragan> sure
05:34:47 <juhp> :)
05:37:01 <juhp> ok
05:37:13 <juhp> let's move on then
05:38:13 <juhp> #topic input methods
05:39:11 <juhp> any issues or updates to discuss?
05:40:16 <juhp> tagoh: thanks for submitting mozc
05:40:25 <juhp> didn't realise it needs gyp to build
05:40:55 <juhp> (actually added package review section for later)
05:41:41 <juhp> fujiwarat or anyone else have anything?
05:42:10 <nkumar> I will try host & package (for fedora) ibus-table-others maybe by next weekend
05:42:42 <juhp> tagoh: wondering how much overhead XIM (X locale compose) gives at desktop startup
05:42:49 <juhp> nkumar: cool
05:42:58 <nkumar> currently struggling with s-c-l bugs :)
05:43:21 <juhp> nkumar: alright ask for help if you need it
05:44:15 <nkumar> juhp: yep, thanks :), I think I can manage, it requires a bit of persistent patience, which I think I was lacking
05:44:19 <juhp> dueno, epico_laptop: anything you want to talk about?
05:44:30 <juhp> nkumar: ok
05:45:05 <epico_laptop> nothing from me.
05:45:43 <dueno> me too :)
05:45:46 <juhp> #topic fonts/rendering
05:45:58 <juhp> ok
05:46:26 <juhp> tagoh: any topics for this week?
05:46:30 <juhp> or anyone else?
05:48:09 <dychen_> just push the ibus-chewing using the new GIT infrastructure
05:48:15 <juhp> [input methods (23 ibus (0) bugs]
05:48:21 <juhp> fonts/rendering (29 fonts (-2); 19 font (-4) bugs)
05:48:49 <juhp> epico_laptop: what was the conclusion on ghostscript packaging?
05:49:12 * epico_laptop wait for review comments.
05:51:42 <juhp> so going ahead with new packages??
05:51:51 <juhp> or
05:52:24 <juhp> epico_laptop: ?
05:52:44 <epico_laptop> It seems it will becomes new packages.
05:53:01 <epico_laptop> two packages I think.
05:53:06 <juhp> ok - so embedding is no good?
05:53:32 <epico_laptop> ?
05:53:37 <juhp> tagoh: are you still thinking to have a meeting for fonts/rendering?
05:54:11 <juhp> #topic package reviews
05:54:24 <dychen_> and going to walk through  ibus-table-chinese review
05:54:42 <juhp> dychen_: cool
05:55:21 <paragan> brb
05:57:14 <juhp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?short_desc_type=substring&component=Package+Review&bug_status=__open__&emailcc2=1&emailtype2=exact&email2=i18n-bugs@lists.fedoraproject.org
05:59:08 <juhp> nkumar: so ibus-table-mathwriter will be duplicate of ibus-table-other?
05:59:35 <juhp> oh it is closed ;)
05:59:47 <juhp> resubmitting?
06:00:11 <juhp> hm ok
06:00:53 <juhp> nkumar: you could rename it then
06:01:34 * juhp seems to be talking to himself...
06:01:54 <juhp> interested to see someone submitted scim-panel-vkb-gtk
06:02:20 <juhp> #topic open
06:02:27 <juhp> any other things?
06:02:33 <nkumar> juhp: sorry I went for loo
06:02:48 <nkumar> juhp: yep I will rename it
06:02:54 <juhp> cool
06:03:10 <dueno> I'm recently playing with groff 1.20
06:03:11 <egyDev> !
06:03:41 <dueno> .bug 596900
06:03:42 <zodbot> dueno: Bug 596900 Position of changing lines needs improving in ja_JP.UTF-8 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596900
06:04:17 <egyDev> Sorry to interrupt you but https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_GUI,There's some broken links here
06:04:34 <egyDev> Almost all links are broken ?
06:04:59 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/L10N_GUI
06:05:36 <juhp> egyDev: which link is broken?  example?
06:05:57 <juhp> ah nm
06:06:29 <juhp> maybe all?
06:06:36 <egyDev> juhp, Most of projects are now under /p/NAME
06:07:09 <juhp> egyDev: you can't edit?
06:07:22 <juhp> egyDev: otherwise perhaps you can ping Piotr Drąg
06:08:03 <juhp> or post to trans list
06:08:13 <juhp> egyDev: we don't do translation :)
06:08:30 <egyDev> juhp, I will modify as I can
06:08:40 <egyDev> juhp, :) OK Thanks
06:08:43 <juhp> egyDev: cool
06:09:35 <juhp> dueno: any new features?
06:10:29 <juhp> anything else?
06:11:00 <dueno> juhp: 1.20 seems to be a major rewrite and is currently broken on Japanese rendering...
06:11:37 <juhp> dueno: aha
06:11:57 <juhp> and it is in f14 hmm
06:12:33 <juhp> dueno: is there a bug open?
06:12:53 <dueno> .bug 596900
06:12:55 <zodbot> dueno: Bug 596900 Position of changing lines needs improving in ja_JP.UTF-8 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=596900
06:13:03 <juhp> thanks
06:14:42 <juhp> ok thank you for the meeting everyone!
06:14:56 <nkumar> thanks
06:14:59 <juhp> hope it was useful for some :)
06:15:23 <juhp> #endmeeting