05:01:59 <juhp> #startmeeting i18n
05:01:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Jul  8 05:01:59 2010 UTC.  The chair is juhp. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:02:10 <juhp> welcome to this week's i18n meeting
05:02:20 <tagoh> hi
05:02:52 <juhp> hi tagoh
05:03:43 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-07-08
05:04:51 <epico_laptop> hi
05:06:35 <juhp> hi epico_laptop
05:07:01 <paragan> hi
05:07:02 <jni_> hi
05:07:03 <juhp> probably fujiwarat and dueno are here too - looking back
05:07:15 <fujiwarat> hi
05:07:21 <juhp> okay we could start I guess
05:09:50 <juhp> #topic project updates
05:09:58 <juhp> what's new from anyone?
05:10:42 <epico_laptop> for ibus-pinyin lua extension, most patch have been merged into ibus-pinyin upstream.
05:13:42 <juhp> gettext 0.18 went into f13 updates finally
05:14:39 <fujiwarat> Yesterday ibus-input-pad was integrated into f12/f13. I'll update rawhide ibus-input-pad with preference dialog today.
05:18:57 <juhp> fujiwarat: aha cool
05:19:22 <juhp> fujiwarat: how about hiding the kbd display by default?
05:20:33 <fujiwarat> juhp: Do you mean currently ibus-input-pad shows two menu items on languagebar ?
05:21:27 <juhp> fujiwarat: no I think input-pad displays keyboard layout by default
05:21:43 <juhp> anyway just a suggstion
05:21:47 <juhp> suggestion
05:22:08 <fujiwarat> Ah, OK, let me think or discuss later.
05:22:09 <juhp> maybe better after gconf
05:22:11 <juhp> sure
05:22:45 <fujiwarat> Yes, the current ibus-input-pad setting dialog can hide the layout.
05:22:56 <juhp> yeah
05:23:08 <juhp> anyone else or we can move on
05:23:12 <juhp> ?
05:24:12 <juhp> #topic bugs
05:24:20 <juhp> stats a bit down this week
05:25:05 <juhp> F14 feature freeze and branching 2010-07-27
05:26:17 <juhp> paragan: cool I see you got a touchscreen bug
05:26:26 <paragan> yes
05:26:29 <juhp> .bug 608256
05:26:30 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 608256 input fail on touch-screen with finger, while mouse click is working for iok - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=608256
05:26:31 <paragan> working on it
05:26:39 * juhp is looking at NEW f14 bugs
05:27:04 <paragan> but not sure yet how to fix as I then need to remove DnD feature
05:27:26 <juhp> hm
05:27:34 <juhp> paragan: editting feature?
05:28:14 <juhp> ah dropping input?
05:28:15 <paragan> Drag and Drop to swap key mappings
05:28:17 <paragan> yes
05:28:21 <juhp> hm
05:28:28 <juhp> IMHO that is a good thing ;)
05:28:51 <juhp> hmm anyway
05:29:46 <juhp> paragan: seriously it should not DnD by default IMO - need some toggle for that
05:30:07 <paragan> yes
05:30:13 <paragan> thinking on that
05:30:39 <juhp> dueno: any plan to support any m17n maps? :)
05:30:44 <juhp> ok
05:32:16 <dueno> juhp: added to TODO :)
05:32:41 <juhp> okay :)
05:33:49 <juhp> F13 bugs 43 (-8) : 22 NEW (-2)
05:35:15 <juhp> anyone have any bugs to talk about?
05:36:20 <juhp> .bug 607927
05:36:21 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 607927 RFE: do not set minimum window height that big - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=607927
05:37:13 <nkumar> petersen: yep I have the fix, was  busy with utrrs work so did not build it
05:38:28 <juhp> ok please do when you can
05:38:33 <nkumar> petersen: Me and pravin even tested it, it works fine.
05:38:39 <juhp> cool
05:39:03 <nkumar> petersen: I will try and finish it by this weekend or definitely next week
05:39:09 <nkumar> also smc bugs
05:39:15 <juhp> please
05:39:52 * juhp tries to get into the habit of moving bugs we discuss into assigned if appropriate...
05:41:32 <juhp> ok not sure if we any many more topics to discuss
05:41:36 <juhp> anyway here goes
05:41:47 <juhp> #topic input methods
05:42:57 <juhp> ah my ibus regexp is catching scribus
05:43:10 <juhp> better
05:43:21 <juhp> 12 ibus bugs
05:43:58 <juhp> I will try to get those FTBFS bugs fixed by next week
05:44:45 <juhp> fujiwarat: maybe we need to reassign some of them
05:44:56 <juhp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=^ibus&bug_status=NEW
05:46:25 <juhp> #topic fonts/rendering
05:47:48 <fujiwarat> juhp: Yes, we need to fix some bugs.
05:48:25 <juhp> yeah
05:48:28 * epico_laptop wonder whether it is good time to split cjkuni-fonts into cjkuni-uming-fonts, cjkuni-ukai-fonts and cjkuni-fonts-ghostscript three source rpm package.
05:48:48 <juhp> epico_laptop: yeah - I just assigned it to you actually :)
05:48:58 <juhp> hmm ghostscript
05:49:11 <epico_laptop> ok. I will prepare them soon for rawhide.
05:49:16 <juhp> cool
05:50:32 <epico_laptop> :)
05:50:52 <juhp> .bug 487061
05:50:53 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 487061 Japanese fonts changed to less readable after update - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=487061
05:51:06 <juhp> tagoh3: is it wontfix or cantfix?
05:51:40 <tagoh> hmm, maybe
05:52:17 <juhp> tagoh: what changed actually?
05:52:43 <juhp> perhaps I will try to fix
05:52:45 <juhp> .bug 466029
05:52:46 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 466029 fonts.dir refers to non-existent .bdf files, breaking accesses - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=466029
05:52:53 <juhp> ought to be easyfix
05:53:35 <tagoh> it used to use DejaVu for Latin glyphs
05:54:03 <juhp> ah
05:54:15 <juhp> they changed glyphs, hmm
05:54:22 <juhp> or we changed?
05:54:25 <juhp> fontconfig
05:54:50 <juhp> it mean vlgothic, right?
05:54:53 <tagoh> which has single byte characters for ambiguous width characters.
05:54:54 <juhp> means
05:55:19 <tagoh> right the changes has been made in vlgothic fontconfig rule
05:55:36 <juhp> ok
05:55:47 <juhp> should we override with vlgothic?
05:55:55 <juhp> ugh
05:56:03 <juhp> override with dejavu I mean
05:56:46 <tagoh> dunno. that breaks another applications that doesn't fallback when no glyphs found in the primary font.
05:57:04 <juhp> hm I see
05:57:24 <tagoh> also broken result in fc-match say as we saw in other fonts bug
05:57:49 <juhp> hmm yeah
06:00:47 <juhp> okay any other fonts topics?
06:02:26 <juhp> tagoh: wonder if the patch fujiwarat mentioned helps?
06:03:59 <juhp> anyway guess we finish here
06:04:21 <juhp> if there are no other topics?
06:04:25 <tagoh> hmm, dunno
06:05:21 <pravins> juhp: :(
06:05:26 * pravins too late today
06:06:15 <juhp> pravins: anything you want to discuss?
06:07:32 <pravins> juhp: i am trying for harfbuzz from last week
06:07:58 <pravins> harfbuzz-ng code
06:08:11 <pravins> thats it, nothing good result yet from me
06:08:15 <pravins> thats it
06:08:24 <juhp> cool
06:08:33 <juhp> pravins: does it build?
06:08:40 <pravins> yes
06:09:09 <pravins> while running it with lohit-devanagari,ttf, i saw how it reads fonts information
06:09:18 <juhp> aha
06:09:19 <pravins> i.e all open type table
06:09:37 <juhp> any rendering?
06:09:51 <pravins> no, not yet
06:09:56 <juhp> ok
06:10:12 <pravins> will be very happy, if anyone can help me in that :)
06:10:45 <juhp> pravins: no demo or test programs?
06:11:07 <pravins> i did not found it
06:11:22 <juhp> ok - might be worth asking?
06:11:30 <pravins> juhp: yes sure
06:11:36 <pravins> will send mail to behdad
06:11:42 <juhp> thanks that's very interesting
06:12:08 <juhp> okay let's close the meeting shortly
06:12:21 <juhp> thanks everyone for joining
06:12:59 <juhp> #endmeeting