05:06:07 <juhp> #startmeeting i18n
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05:06:18 <juhp> ok welcome to this weeks i18n project meeting
05:06:24 <pravins> hi juhp
05:06:32 <juhp> hi pravins
05:06:43 <paragan> hi
05:06:45 <dychen_> hi
05:06:52 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-07-01
05:07:02 <juhp> hi paragan, dychen_
05:07:21 <epico_laptop> hi
05:07:26 <juhp> hi epico_laptop
05:07:48 <juhp> hi dueno fujiwarat tagoh3?
05:07:53 <fujiwarat> hi
05:07:55 <dueno> hi
05:08:10 <jni_> hi
05:08:11 <juhp> hi jni_
05:08:29 <juhp> alright - well - tried to simplify the agenda a little this week
05:09:46 <juhp> #topic updates
05:09:58 <juhp> what's new? :)
05:10:31 <epico_laptop> ibus lua extension now have a quick way to input Chinese Characters.
05:10:40 <juhp> aha
05:10:48 <juhp> epico_laptop: how does it work?
05:11:19 <epico_laptop> input "一万一千一百一十一" by "i11111" using lua extension.
05:11:53 <juhp> cool - so for numbers?
05:11:58 <epico_laptop> quick input for "壹万壹千壹百壹十壹" and "一一一一一一一".
05:12:13 <epico_laptop> yes, quick way for input Chinese numbers.
05:12:19 <juhp> ok
05:12:19 <tagoh3> hi
05:12:31 <juhp> hi tagoh3
05:14:19 <juhp> any others? :)
05:14:52 <juhp> I don't think I have anything new really - my gettext update in testing looks good - will probably push to stable at the end of the week
05:15:14 <fujiwarat> ibus-input-pad and input-pad are available in rawhide from yesterday.
05:15:24 <juhp> nice
05:15:39 <juhp> I have to retry ibus-input-pad
05:17:14 <fujiwarat> I wonder if I need to input relnotes.
05:17:25 <juhp> this week I added IM section to this meeting so we could also talk more about it later too
05:17:40 <dychen_> epico_laptop: Not quite sure about the accounting number in China, but shouldn't 千 become 仟, 十 become 拾?
05:17:41 <juhp> fujiwarat: yup - but they are not open yet
05:18:18 <fujiwarat> ok, i see.
05:18:28 <juhp> fujiwarat: I'd like to add it to comps too
05:18:54 <dychen_> epico_laptop: Otherwise you just add a slash to make 10 become 1000. :-)
05:19:13 <fujiwarat> cool
05:19:41 <epico_laptop> dychen_: yes, I will try to check that. I referenced another ime, just try to use same output.
05:20:17 <juhp> ok let's move on this if no more updates
05:20:21 <juhp> then
05:20:40 <juhp> #topic bugs
05:20:46 <epico_laptop> dychen_: yes, you are right. I will fixes it later.
05:21:11 <juhp> to try to make the meeting a little less heavy I moved the bugs dashboard out of the agenda...
05:21:21 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-07-01#Dashboard
05:21:43 <juhp> this week numbers are down a bit :)
05:22:15 <juhp> 89 rawhide bugs and no change for f13 (51) and 73 f12 anyway
05:22:57 <juhp> 43 NEW rawhide bugs though
05:23:29 <juhp> hm 2 of them mine ;)
05:23:38 <juhp> still need to triage those :(
05:24:30 <juhp> anyway if you have a bug in NEW would be nice if you can triage and move to assigned so we know that it has at least been looked at
05:26:44 <juhp> any bugs to discuss?
05:26:56 <juhp> I think I may reverse the order of the agenda next week,,,,
05:27:34 <juhp> 24 NEW f13 and 42 NEW f12
05:27:46 <juhp> interesting that there are a lot more f12 bugs than f13
05:28:18 <juhp> wonder if it is because of this focus on bugs in the meetings or something else perhaps?
05:29:35 <juhp> let's move on to talk about input methods
05:29:46 <juhp> #topic input methods
05:31:28 <juhp> dueno: eekboard review seems to be progressing well
05:31:58 <juhp> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/InputMethods/Bugs
05:32:11 <juhp> any IM issues to discuss?
05:32:30 <juhp> I guess we already covered some updates earlier
05:33:08 <juhp> fujiwarat: Alt+Shift ibus issue is fixed then - I'll try to retest when I recover qemu on my testbox...
05:33:32 <fujiwarat> yes, i think so.
05:33:42 <juhp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=^ibus.*&bug_status=__open__
05:36:07 <juhp> epico_laptop: how about
05:36:15 <juhp> .bug 597594
05:36:16 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 597594 [abrt] crash in ibus-1.3.3-1.fc13: keyboardshortcut.py:140:get_shortcuts:TypeError: 'NoneType' object is not iterable - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=597594
05:37:17 <juhp> ah guess it is fixed upstream
05:37:29 <juhp> just wondered why it got assigned to you? :)
05:37:41 <epico_laptop> I saw phuang's patch, and it adds some additional check for null value.
05:37:49 <juhp> ok
05:38:04 <epico_laptop> it is a bug on 64bit bug, and I uses 64bit linux.
05:38:20 <juhp> aha
05:38:30 <juhp> epico_laptop: so you tested? :)
05:39:25 <fujiwarat> epico_laptop: Yesterday I copied all changes on HEAD to rawhide.
05:39:51 <epico_laptop> we succeed to make ibus crashes with null value, but strictly following his step is not able to reproduce it. with the additional check, this is possible to be worked around.
05:40:50 <juhp> epico_laptop: ok - so sounds not so critical then
05:42:46 <juhp> epico_laptop: btw can anything be done for old scim bugs?  (there are only 4 open:)
05:43:08 <juhp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=scim&bug_status=__open__
05:43:25 <epico_laptop> sorry, currently no clues from back trace log.
05:43:31 <juhp> ok
05:43:51 <epico_laptop> 3 bugs for scim-panel-gtk, one for scim-bridge. 4 back trace log are different.
05:44:02 <juhp> epico_laptop: then probably better to close insufficientdata
05:44:04 <juhp> right
05:44:15 <epico_laptop> ok. I see.
05:44:20 <juhp> if you can't reproduce :)
05:44:41 <juhp> thanks
05:44:46 <epico_laptop> welcome.
05:44:49 <juhp> let's go to fonts
05:44:56 <juhp> #topic Fonts
05:45:01 <juhp> and rendering...
05:45:33 <juhp> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?product=Fedora&field0-0-0=component&type0-0-0=regexp&value0-0-0=fonts&bug_status=__open__
05:45:47 <juhp> wow only 46 bugs!
05:45:58 <juhp> thought there would be more for the whole distro
05:46:25 <juhp> 22 NEW
05:48:15 <juhp> any fonts issues to discuss today?
05:49:16 <tagoh3> most bugs I filed should be gone - went through bz and bodhi and tested and added comments for giving my karma
05:49:30 <juhp> cool
05:50:28 <juhp> ok widening search to font packages from fonts gives 79 bugs...
05:51:58 <juhp> tagoh3: I need to test more thought I was seeing CJK spaghetti in zh.wikipedia.org
05:52:08 <juhp> on f13
05:52:21 <juhp> not quite sure what might be causing that
05:52:54 <juhp> was going to test against f12 to compare or maybe i am misremembering how it was
05:53:03 <tagoh3> juhp: aha. is it in bz?
05:53:09 <juhp> not yet
05:53:28 <juhp> anyway the new .conf is big improvement I think
05:54:39 <tagoh3> juhp: one more improvement we could have - done for some font packages, but not for some.
05:54:49 <tagoh3> for ll vs ll-cc issue
05:54:57 <tagoh3> guess you may saw that on firefox?
05:54:57 <juhp> tagoh3: ah yes
05:55:09 <juhp> tagoh3: yes
05:55:30 <juhp> so how far is that done now?
05:56:00 <tagoh3> dunno - not tried to figure out yet.
05:56:07 <juhp> ok
05:56:29 <juhp> epico_laptop: do you have it yet in wqy?
05:56:39 <juhp> I think dueno did it for un-core-fonts iiuc
05:56:55 <juhp> tagoh3: vlgothic?
05:57:15 <tagoh3> juhp: it should be ok
05:57:16 <epico_laptop> sorry, does it mean to change zh pattern match to zh-cn pattern match?
05:57:18 <juhp> tagoh3: or is it something more/better?
05:57:29 <juhp> epico_laptop: maybe both
05:57:53 <epico_laptop> wqy-zenhei-fonts has that changes now.
05:58:00 <epico_laptop> and is released.
05:58:01 <juhp> ok
05:58:13 <tagoh3> juhp: I'm not aware of any improvements except adding ll and ll-cc pattern into the config
05:58:38 <juhp> I also happened to test Ubuntu Lucid and they are still overriding CJK lang
05:58:43 <juhp> ok
05:59:10 <juhp> (somehow Lucid makes me think of XEmacs;)
05:59:20 <tagoh3> :)
06:00:26 <juhp> tagoh3: anything more on fonts or rendering today? :)
06:00:47 <tagoh3> nope
06:00:53 <juhp> okay
06:01:50 <juhp> #topic closing...
06:02:19 <juhp> various pkgreview bugs open I see
06:03:32 <juhp> any other topics or comments
06:04:06 <juhp> might put the meeting improvements back on the agenda next week - see how we go :)
06:04:49 <juhp> okay stop here then
06:04:55 <juhp> thank you for the meeting!
06:05:18 <juhp> #endmeeting