#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting

Meeting summary

1. Gathering critical mass (jlaska, 15:00:05)
   1. IDEA: New QA motto - "Testing Fedora is like stuffing a badger down your trousers; you don't really know when it's going to bite." (jlaska, 15:02:46)
   
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (jlaska, 15:04:44)
   1. jlaska to check-in with lmacken on the status of https://fedorahosted.org/bodhi/ticket/424 (jlaska, 15:04:55)
   2. adamw to forward wwoods a good explanation of the nss-softokn problem scenario to ensure autoqa catches it in future (jlaska, 15:06:44)
   3. https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-June/000703.html (jlaska, 15:07:16)
   4. ACTION: wwoods to evaluate nss-softokn dependency problem for proper 'depcheck' coverage (jlaska, 15:09:10)
   5. jlaska to propose a clean-up of the Critical Path Packages wiki to be a suitable home for critpath information (jlaska, 15:11:04)
   6. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Critical_Path_Packages (jlaska, 15:12:05)
   7. ACTION: jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value (jlaska, 15:16:30)
   
   
3. F14 QA Recommendations (jlaska, 15:16:58)
   1. Jlaska organized Fedora_13_QA_Retrospective feedback into a list of QA recommendations for Fedora 14. (jlaska, 15:17:32)
   
   
4. Proventester Update (jlaska, 15:22:44)
   
5. Systemd QA preparation (jlaska, 15:30:33)
   1. Viking-ice noted that Features/systemd was approved by FESCO and wanted to propose several QA ideas. (jlaska, 15:30:53)
   2. adamw reached out to lennart for interest on a F14 test day (jlaska, 15:32:19)
   3. ACTION: Viking-Ice will start 'how to debug systemd problems' guide and send to list for review (jlaska, 15:35:58)
   4. ACTION: jlaska to review F14 test day wiki content (jlaska, 15:36:39)
   
   
6. AutoQA updates (initscripts, prioritization status) (kparal, 15:40:15)
   1. https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-devel/2010-June/000687.html (jskladan, 15:43:52)
   2. jskladan wrote an explanation how to contribute with initscripts, will put it on the wiki (kparal, 15:46:47)
   3. jlaska gathered huge number of machines available for autoqa testing (kparal, 15:47:06)
   4. Infrastructure team comes to QA's rescue -- thanks mmcgrath and smooge! (jlaska, 15:48:04)
   5. jskladan recruited another volunteer to help up with virtualization, Ray Chen (kparal, 15:48:57)
   
   
7. Open discussion <your topic here> (kparal, 15:51:36)
   1. Interesting test idea for anyone interested -- http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/06/20/ABI-:-stability-check (jlaska, 15:52:34)
   
   
8. TCs/RCs archive (kparal, 15:52:50)
   1. ACTION: robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs (kparal, 15:57:23)
   
   
9. test case: ABI - stability check (kparal, 15:58:13)
   1. http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/06/20/ABI-:-stability-check (kparal, 15:58:23)
   2. http://blog.famillecollet.com/post/2010/06/20/ABI-:-stability-check (kparal, 15:58:31)
   3. ACTION: jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check (kparal, 16:02:09)
   
   
10. Open discussion <your topic here> (kparal, 16:02:36)

Action items

1. wwoods to evaluate nss-softokn dependency problem for proper 'depcheck' coverage
2. jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value
3. Viking-Ice will start 'how to debug systemd problems' guide and send to list for review
4. jlaska to review F14 test day wiki content
5. robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs
6. jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check

Action items, by person

1. jlaska
   1. jlaska to cleanup (or remove) the Critical Path Packages#Background section so that it provides _some_ value
   2. jlaska to review F14 test day wiki content
   3. jlaska to create a ticket about possible enhancement/new test case for ABI stability check
2. robatino
   1. robatino to ask infrastructure team to archive previous RCs/TCs
3. Viking-Ice
   1. Viking-Ice will start 'how to debug systemd problems' guide and send to list for review

People present (lines said)

1. jlaska (103)
2. kparal (56)
3. adamw (38)
4. jskladan (17)
5. Viking-Ice (8)
6. robatino (6)
7. zodbot (4)
8. mmcgrath (2)
9. dafrito (1)