20:06:33 <liknus_> #startmeeting EMEA Ambassadors Meeting 2010-6-9 20:06:33 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jun 9 20:06:33 2010 UTC. The chair is liknus_. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:06:33 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:06:39 <liknus_> #topic Rollcall 20:06:49 <liknus_> its on the topic ladies and gents! 20:06:54 <kital> Joerg Simon 20:06:58 <dmaphy> .fas dmaphy 20:06:59 <zodbot> dmaphy: dmaphy 'Dominic Hopf' <dmaphy@gmail.com> 20:07:01 <liknus_> Pierros Papadeas 20:07:03 <cmpahar> .fas cmpahar 20:07:04 <zodbot> cmpahar: cmpahar 'Christos Bacharakis' <cmpahar@gmail.com> 20:07:10 <zoltanh7211> .fas zoltanh721 20:07:11 <zodbot> zoltanh7211: zoltanh721 'Hoppár Zoltán' <hopparz@gmail.com> 20:07:20 <constanton> .fas constanton 20:07:21 <zodbot> constanton: constanton 'Konstantinos Antonakoglou' <anton.cost@gmail.com> 20:07:39 <GeroldKa> .fas geroldka 20:07:40 <zodbot> GeroldKa: geroldka 'Gerold Kassube' <gerold@lugd.org> 20:08:10 <liknus_> Ok gents, todays agenda can be found here: 20:08:13 <liknus_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:EMEA_Ambassadors_2010-06-09 20:08:31 <liknus_> #topic Announcements 20:08:47 <liknus_> kital, any news from FAmSCo? 20:08:58 <kital> sure - i will give a short update 20:09:08 <kital> latest FAmSCo Report for May can be found here 20:09:15 <liknus_> #chair kital 20:09:15 <zodbot> Current chairs: kital liknus_ 20:09:28 <kital> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_report_2010-05 20:09:42 * liknus_ is having terrible lag :( 20:09:51 <kital> #info 2010-June-30 is the final deadline to list your F13 Release Event Report 20:10:14 <kital> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events 20:10:30 <kital> NA Ambassadors brought up discussion about raising barriers to join the Ambassador Group 20:10:41 <liknus_> interesting 20:10:44 <kital> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-May/000187.html 20:10:49 <kital> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-May/000188.html 20:10:53 <liknus_> can you tell us a little bit more about that? 20:10:55 <kital> During FAmSCo Meetings we had discussions on this topic 20:11:01 <kital> and we agreed that the Mentors have already all instruments 20:11:27 <d3vnull_II> hi guys 20:11:28 <kital> liknus_: it is mostly summarized by David here http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-May/000187.html 20:11:39 <kital> 22:11 < kital> and we agreed that the Mentors have already all instruments 20:11:46 <kital> and the Freedom to decide what barrier he wants to raise personally 20:11:58 <kital> as example to require one month active work in marketing or other group 20:12:11 <kital> here the Mentor is completely free to decide 20:12:24 <kital> As most of you noticed we also announced the reshaped Membership Wizard 20:12:33 <kital> this week 20:12:37 <kital> http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/famsco/2010-June/000198.html 20:12:51 <kital> and we are positive that it will clarify to new candidates that the Ambassadors Group is not 20:13:03 <kital> just a starting group and will help Mentors to focus on the candidate and not on explaining 20:13:09 <kital> the membership process 1000 times 20:13:13 <kital> eof 20:13:34 <liknus_> thanks kital for the really interesting info on the subject 20:13:43 <liknus_> any questions on that? 20:14:01 <liknus_> #chair liknus 20:14:01 <zodbot> Current chairs: kital liknus liknus_ 20:14:21 <liknus_> ok any more announcements? 20:14:44 <liknus_> ok moving on to the next subject 20:14:54 <liknus_> #topic Events 20:15:05 <liknus_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#FY11_Q1_.28March_2010_-_May_2010.29_2 20:15:16 <liknus_> oups...wrong 20:15:21 <liknus_> #undo 20:15:21 <zodbot> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Link object at 0x2b4795e31990> 20:16:03 <liknus_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents# FY11 Q2 (June 2010 - August 2010) 20:16:40 <liknus_> bochecha, ping 20:17:00 <liknus_> mainly this month we are focusing on Release Parties 20:17:14 <liknus_> so far in EMEA region we had/will have 4 events 20:17:38 <liknus_> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events 20:18:07 <liknus_> We already had to of them in france and belgium 20:18:44 <liknus_> and this Saturday we are going to experiment in Greece, hosting two Release parties on the same time from distance :) 20:18:58 * cmpahar yiouhouuu 20:19:07 <liknus_> cmpahar, and me are responsible for Thessaloniki and Athens accordincly 20:19:29 * constanton won't miss it too :P 20:19:45 <liknus_> We are hoping that this formula will work and we can maybe next time experiment with more parties through more countries 20:19:54 <liknus_> Any questions remarks on that? 20:20:21 <liknus_> (of cource event reports and photos will follow) 20:20:43 <liknus_> Ok.. 20:21:11 <liknus_> I think we also need to look and assess the situation of the few Release Parties within EMEA 20:22:21 <liknus_> I can see that possibly the problems are the difficulties of organizng or the downfall of some communities 20:22:58 <liknus_> Some more motives need to be there so as more people organize release parties 20:23:34 <liknus_> What do you think on focusing on some kind of special promotion for the next release parties? 20:23:43 <liknus_> F14 I am talking now... 20:24:06 <liknus_> Any comments on that? 20:24:15 <cmpahar> ! 20:24:23 <liknus_> cmpahar, 20:24:47 <kital> ! 20:25:13 <cmpahar> I think that we have to prove to the people that it is not so hard to organize a release event, to say a few words for the new release. We have to motivate them. 20:25:20 <cmpahar> eof 20:25:36 <liknus_> Thanks cmpahar ... this can be done through wiki and through ml 20:25:39 <liknus_> kital, 20:25:42 <kital> do you feel that FAmSCo or Marketing should advertise the Release Parties with more ressources? 20:25:57 <kital> s/you/you all/ 20:26:01 <kital> eof 20:26:04 <cmpahar> kital, +1 20:26:06 <d3vnull_II> +1 kital 20:26:19 <liknus_> i think that famsco should provide some motives 20:26:30 <kital> ! 20:26:37 <liknus_> marketing team should work on some texts 20:26:46 <liknus_> and design team should help us on some artwork 20:26:54 <d3vnull_II> ! 20:26:58 <liknus_> kital, 20:27:15 <constanton> ! 20:27:16 <zoltanh7211> kital +1 20:27:25 <kital> d3vnull_II: should first i have to search a link 20:27:26 <kital> ;) 20:27:35 <liknus_> d3vnull_II, then :) 20:27:49 <d3vnull_II> thanks 20:28:05 <d3vnull_II> liknus_ do u mean motivation of some sort or motives for real? 20:28:28 <liknus_> possible both ;) 20:28:42 <liknus_> motivation at first i guess 20:29:01 <d3vnull_II> if its the former, then I will agree with kital on resource availability. 20:29:30 <d3vnull_II> some ambassadors depending on the zone might find it pocket draining to organize parties 20:30:05 <d3vnull_II> when I say zone in this context I mean regions..eg.Africa/Nigeria...Ivory Coast...etc 20:30:06 * kital found the link 20:30:11 <d3vnull_II> EOF 20:30:37 <liknus_> d3vnull_II, thanks for the remarks....indeed the zones are an issue 20:30:40 <liknus_> kital, 20:31:23 <kital> we tried to use Release Party Contests as motivation in the past 20:32:00 <kital> which turned out to be demotivating for all the others who invested a lot of love in their events and did not won 20:33:16 <kital> do you think the same ? 20:33:17 <kital> eof 20:33:35 <liknus_> +1 kital 20:33:59 <cmpahar> +1 kital 20:34:04 <constanton> +1 kital 20:34:05 <d3vnull_II> +1 kital 20:34:08 <liknus_> Shall we open the subject on the ml? 20:34:17 <constanton> ! can I add something? 20:34:31 <liknus_> constanton, 20:34:43 <constanton> I think the motive can be found locally 20:34:47 <constanton> I think a first step is to actually get promoted from those who will soon organise a release party. I mean write down somewhere "it was cool, if you are an Ambassador, just do it, it's more than fun!" 20:35:03 <constanton> I think it's not just workshops and presentations, and that side is a motive I think 20:35:37 <liknus_> indeed promoting the fun side of events is something we must promote :) 20:35:58 <constanton> talk about fedora and much more and get a beer...I think it's enough for me 20:36:06 <constanton> eof :) 20:36:09 <liknus_> #action liknus_ add the "fun side" on the report guidelines 20:36:15 <liknus_> aggreed? 20:36:29 <constanton> +1 20:36:36 <d3vnull_II> +1 20:36:49 <cmpahar> +1 20:37:14 <kital> ah - i am dump i searched the link and forgott to post it - 20:37:29 <kital> discussion regarding contest prize by famsco http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-05-03/fedora-meeting-1.2010-05-03-18.00.log.html 20:37:55 <kital> and hint hint! 18:27:49 <kital> #agreed to have team-lunch as prize for every Release Event Team with an detailed Event Report 20:38:01 <kital> eof 20:38:37 <liknus_> that is still valid kital ? ;) 20:38:59 <kital> there is a agreed - right ;) 20:39:37 <liknus_> greek team prepare for dinner :P 20:40:08 <kital> ;) 20:40:14 * constanton is suited up already 20:40:14 * cmpahar getting ready 20:40:19 * bochecha totally forgot the meeting, sorry about that :x 20:40:31 * cmpahar hey bobmcw 20:40:37 * cmpahar hey bochecha 20:40:58 * liknus_ hey there bochecha 20:41:14 <liknus_> bochecha, any info from the release party? 20:41:24 <bochecha> the one we held in Paris? 20:41:56 <liknus_> yeah bochecha 20:42:17 <bochecha> well, like I said in my report on the mailing list, we had 150 visitors, we gave a presentation and two workshops 20:42:39 <bochecha> and as it appears I arrived while we're discussing the fun side, then it definitely was a lot of fun (although exhausting) 20:42:40 <liknus_> excellent bochecha 20:42:41 <bochecha> :) 20:43:19 <liknus_> ok anything more on the events? 20:44:00 * cmpahar WOW 20:44:15 <liknus_> I can see that there are no action items from previous meeting 20:44:19 <liknus_> so.. 20:44:24 <liknus_> #topic Open Flooe 20:44:31 <kital> ah ok 20:44:32 <liknus_> #topic Open Floor 20:44:56 <liknus_> anyone knows what sspreitzer does on media? 20:45:02 <cmpahar> liknus, 20:45:05 <cmpahar> ! 20:45:12 <liknus_> cmpahar, 20:45:47 <cmpahar> will you sum up your thoughts and experiences about IDLELO and generally Ghana? 20:46:05 <liknus_> cmpahar, that can be done :) 20:46:22 <cmpahar> if we dont have something else of course 20:46:22 <cmpahar> eof 20:46:29 <liknus_> but in a meeting i prefer Q&A 20:46:42 <liknus_> else i shall write a ml post 20:47:04 <cmpahar> fair enough :) 20:47:28 <liknus_> any Q for that? 20:47:55 <liknus_> Also I have to note that Africa meetings were stopped just before IDLELO...no idea why 20:48:07 <liknus_> I shall boot it up back 20:48:33 <zoltanh7211> ! 20:48:38 <liknus_> zoltanh7211, 20:48:57 <zoltanh7211> Kital, can we talk about tshirts? 20:49:08 <kital> zoltanh7211: we can 20:49:14 <zoltanh7211> So, 20:49:42 <zoltanh7211> Lately I try to find a good Hu company who could create cheap swag 20:49:47 <kital> right now i try to get offers for the fudcon shirts for the fudcon zurich 20:50:14 <zoltanh7211> understand 20:50:18 <liknus_> in greece our vendor give us vinyl tshirts for 10 Euros each 20:50:20 * kital saw zoltanh7211 t-shirt designs 20:50:20 <cmpahar> kital, i can take some offers from Greece too :) 20:50:27 <bochecha> liknus_, expensive 20:50:39 <liknus_> bochecha, vinyl stamp 20:50:52 <bochecha> I have no idea what vinyl stamp is of course :) 20:51:09 <liknus_> no way of getting worn off 20:52:07 * kital remembers that there is also a ticket to produce new polo shirts for greece 20:52:09 <zoltanh7211> Kital: Currently I will receive the following samples: Flags (2 types), tshirts (2 types), sticker sets, hanger, and more 20:52:24 <liknus_> nice zoltanh7211 20:52:25 <kital> zoltanh7211: can not wait to see them 20:52:53 <kital> and look forward to wear a rocket button in the future 20:53:08 <liknus_> oh!! 20:53:10 <zoltanh7211> If I good remember, then GeroldKA was who wated flags 20:53:12 <liknus_> that reminds me 20:53:39 <GeroldKa> ?? 20:53:50 <liknus_> I am thinking if we have the budget to buy a button making machine :) 20:54:15 <liknus_> It costs about 250 Euros with 1000 parts to produce ... 20:54:31 <zoltanh7211> GeroldKa: If my information is correct you would like to see desk flags, I will have them for events 20:54:34 <liknus_> 1000 buttons cost 300 Euros .. so I think it is profitable for us 20:54:44 <zoltanh7211> liknus: that could be great 20:54:46 <liknus_> kital, what do you think? 20:55:08 <liknus_> I used one machine like that in LGM Brussles and it was *great* !!! 20:55:22 <kital> liknus_: sounds good - please do a ticket on emea swag 20:55:36 <kital> i will announce it to our treasurer 20:55:47 <liknus_> who shall buy it? 20:55:54 <GeroldKa> who is your treasurer kital ? 20:55:57 <kital> liknus_: you 20:56:02 <liknus_> ok kital 20:56:07 <kital> liknus_: ;) 20:56:20 <kital> GeroldKa: Max 20:56:33 <kital> s/your/our 20:56:39 <GeroldKa> oh OK .... 20:56:48 <kital> and of course you - if all things will fail 20:56:50 <kital> ;)))) 20:56:59 <zoltanh7211> :) 20:57:01 <kital> as you are alway the final backup 20:57:35 <liknus_> lol 20:57:36 <liknus_> nice 20:57:53 * kital loves this button 20:57:53 <GeroldKa> me?! 20:57:54 <kital> http://howto.nicubunu.ro/NASA-badge-inkscape/fedora-NASA-badge.png 20:57:55 <liknus_> #action liknus_ makes a ticket on buttons making machine 20:58:19 <liknus_> kital, I am going to bring many for you :P 20:58:24 <kital> GeroldKa: yes, i can not remember that you ever let me down ;) 20:58:33 <cmpahar> liknus, with your face?1 20:58:40 <GeroldKa> indeed; that's a fact 20:58:42 <liknus_> why not cmpahar :P 20:58:49 <liknus_> GeroldKa, thats sweet :) 20:59:45 <liknus_> in 2 minutes I shall end the meeting 21:00:02 * cmpahar i thalitsa kaleiiii.... 21:00:36 <cmpahar> i am trying to remember something that i wanted to be discussed 21:00:45 <cmpahar> but unfortunately, i cant :( 21:00:49 <cmpahar> aaa 21:00:50 <cmpahar> kital, 21:00:56 <cmpahar> never mind 21:00:59 <cmpahar> after the meeting 21:01:02 <kital> cmpahar: ;) 21:01:32 <liknus_> Thanks all for attending! 21:01:35 <kital> thanks liknus_ for chairing 21:01:35 <liknus_> see ya around! 21:01:36 <cmpahar> thanks liknus 21:01:48 <zoltanh7211> thx everyone 21:01:55 <liknus_> #endmeeting