03:16:58 #startmeeting Fedora Ambassadors Meeting Minutes 2010-06-06 - APAC 03:16:58 Meeting started Sun Jun 6 03:16:58 2010 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:16:58 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:17:14 #chair dramsey 03:17:14 Current chairs: dramsey 03:17:26 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-06-06#Agenda 03:17:44 ,fas dramsey 03:17:47 Welcome to APAC! 03:17:54 #topic Ambassadors Members Pinging 03:18:01 I'm dramsey in Japan, where are you guys at? 03:18:20 I'm Tuan in Vietnam 03:18:34 .fas bckurera 03:18:35 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 03:18:57 Bckurera from Sri Lanka 03:19:16 Excellent 03:19:24 I am using Fedora 12 and 13, how about you? 03:19:58 me still in 12 03:20:08 just Fedora 13 (upgraded since beta release) 03:20:14 Great 03:20:42 #topic News from FAmSCo (will skip this topic, if no FAmSCo information / representation is at meeting.) 03:20:50 Looks like we may skip this topic. 03:21:06 #topic Report current status of upcoming APAC Fedora Events. Also, planning and preparation for future APAC Fedora 12 and Fedora 13 Release Events. 03:21:08 +1 03:21:10 * lcafiero is Larry Cafiero from North America. 03:21:19 Hi Larry! 03:21:26 Hey, sorry I'm late 03:21:31 which version of Fedora are you guys using? 03:21:36 we are happy to have people! 03:21:37 :D 03:22:09 I am doing Fedora 12&13 DVD/USB distributions every two weeks, how about you? 03:22:32 whoops, lcafiero which version? 03:22:37 I m stucked with some work these days and out of the uni, hoping to hold an install feast soon in the university 03:22:50 Cool bckurera 03:23:05 but i need some official copies 03:23:14 i ponted out this on last meeting too 03:23:21 still i m not getting the, 03:23:23 I just distributed 100 Fedora 13 media in Release Party last week 03:23:26 sorry them 03:23:31 Ah, sounds like media, we will touch on that in the next topic 03:23:43 but just self-burnt ones 03:23:50 sure dramsey +1 03:24:04 it's best to give official - good quality ones 03:24:22 #idea Official Quality media 03:24:30 further snavin(Hanthana) had some installfeast in sri lanka 03:24:48 in last month 03:24:57 for the school IT teachers 03:25:06 the event is successful 03:25:06 Nice, was the Sri Lanka media figured out? 03:25:13 +1 03:25:46 I read something about tuanta's Fedora 13, correct? 03:25:48 Oh, sorry, dramsey F13 03:25:55 +1 lcafiero 03:26:03 * lcafiero is at work 03:26:03 just to inform, i m going to release the FOSS User Magazine in june 15th 03:26:15 dramsey, exactly, F13 03:26:27 we are giving much pop to F13 there too 03:26:38 ambassador callkalpa is helping me 03:26:49 Nice! 03:27:13 I think that in the next topic we will make that media thing important for APAC, sound good? 03:27:13 http://FOSSuser.com the first sri lankan magazine for FOSS related activites 03:27:53 it's cool, bckurera 03:28:13 Good link, bckurera 03:28:16 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events#APAC 03:30:06 Good stuff, more information or should we continue to next topic? 03:30:32 next topic +1 03:31:10 +1 03:31:13 Okay. 03:31:14 #topic Plans on APAC that need coordination/organization for example, FreeMedia and/or other things needed. 03:31:43 Last month, we had questions on Sri Lanka media as well as media distribution to APAC. 03:31:54 These are still questions or have been answered? 03:31:55 +1 03:32:50 still QUESTIONS 03:33:15 I need some official media to distibute them to our libraries 03:33:15 Ah, have you inquired with your mentor bcckurera? 03:33:42 Yes, I think tuanta would like nice media, too. Correct? 03:33:43 yes i am, he told me that he keep informing but still nothing happened 03:34:16 at the moment I bunt around 20 cd and some DVDs as well 03:34:52 investment is $5.00 03:35:50 bckurera and tuanta, may I ask what kind of media is desired? For example, Fedora 12 and/or Fedora 13, x86 and/or x64? 03:36:06 I need Fedora 13 DVD x64 myself 03:36:13 I m having a suggestion for all the ambassadors, please update the event page as soon you decided to host an event, then v can get to know and help, hope that would be fine 03:36:17 yes, I prefer the nice media 03:36:42 F 13 DVD x86 03:37:05 F13 i386 and x86_64 03:37:23 little amount x64 is enough 03:37:40 DVDs for everyone right? 03:37:45 About how many do you need? 03:37:45 at the moment I have closed issuing F 12 myself 03:38:21 10 urgent total is around 20, 15 X64 and 5 x86 03:38:27 CD is enough 03:38:34 just the LiveCD 03:38:38 I am sure that Harrish and Suresh will review our log entries. These ideas help as requirements to help others help us. We will probably need to do some sort of form thing to make reality. 03:38:44 i need them to put in University libraries 03:38:49 bckurera and tuanta +1 03:39:02 I understand. 03:39:08 those who are interested in FULL copy can borrowed and burnt themselves 03:39:13 Every two weeks, I need about 50 03:39:22 Nice bckurera 03:39:28 i can distribute live CD myself, DVD is costly 03:39:37 tuanta, CD / LiveCD 03:39:44 I need LiveCD x86_64 and i386, about 50-100 for each ones 03:40:41 I have a suggesion : we can provide official media more hot spots then others can get inspired as we having lack of media (officail) 03:40:51 that is why i am targeting labraries 03:41:15 #idea targeting libraries to provide Fedora 03:41:17 Sound good? 03:41:26 :D I like our ideas!!! :D 03:41:37 .fas izhar 03:41:38 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 03:41:40 late T_T 03:41:43 Yo! 03:41:53 Never late, we appreciate you KageSenshiQ! 03:41:53 (actually forgot, until i look at #fedora-meeting) 03:41:55 :D 03:42:00 good BUT for libraries we need p=official nice media 03:42:12 hi KageSenshi 03:42:14 KageSenshi we are discussing media needs 03:42:20 hi KageSenshi 03:42:33 ah ok 03:42:48 RH-APAC already started producing 03:43:05 Oh, please help us with your ideas KageSenshi 03:43:16 Is this Harrish and/or others? 03:43:43 erm .. wariola know this more .. theres one person in RH which can be contacted for media 03:43:48 wait let me check the mail thread 03:43:55 cool! 03:44:26 bckurera and tuanta, let us remember what we wrote, I think we need to do this. 03:44:37 sure 03:44:57 8-) Red Hat, really wants to support us! 8-) 03:44:58 its is better if you can publish contacts of the person in RH 03:45:08 then v can contact him and discuss 03:45:12 Raymond Tai 03:45:36 rtai@redhat.com 03:45:47 try pinging him 03:45:49 thanks buddy 03:46:09 Cool KageSenshi 03:46:16 we appreciate you 03:46:41 hpoe v can solve our FREE media problem then 03:46:42 New name, have you communicated with Raymond before or does Raymond review our logs? 03:47:11 wariola is the one who usually ping him for media 03:47:29 i dont think he review our logs 03:47:35 #idea APAC Ambassadors remember Red Hat contact - Raymond Tai at rtai@redhat.com 03:47:37 so better email him directly 03:48:29 http://rhbrandcomm.com/fedora/ < theres also videos here.. but not sure if i'm allowed to give the password to it .. i think theres another copy of this somewhere .. 03:48:43 Understood KageSenshi, I want to make sure that no problem with our process to help our APAC Ambassadors 03:48:49 Cool KageSenshi 03:49:22 perhaps susmit know more where the public copy of the videos are located 03:49:24 sounds good 03:49:48 #idea Inquire with Susmit on the public copy of the videos. 03:49:51 Sounds good! 03:49:52 :D 03:50:22 if theres none, feel free to ping me .. i'll find a place to upload em .. 03:51:21 Understood, +1 03:52:40 KageSenshi, do you have good idea(s) to help us APAC Ambassadors on media ? 03:52:56 Earlier, bckurera and tuanta wanted official media. 03:53:11 Should these ideas be sent to Raymond Tai and others? 03:53:22 I appreciate your ideas for us. 03:53:40 everyone need official media, I think 03:53:48 ping rtai , i believe y'all can get some medias from him .. coz we get our from him 03:53:49 just think about how to arrange that 03:54:23 another one is, one of the local guy want to open an online media store .. 03:54:53 +1 everyone +1 03:54:58 if it manage to go through, that can be one option to grab media from, of course, with a cost 03:55:26 KageSenshi, I understand. Sounds like that budget reimbursement thing... 03:55:33 yeap 03:57:34 This is great information!!! Other ideas or next topic? 03:57:43 next i guess 03:57:51 .fas Bckurera 03:57:52 bckurera_: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 03:58:16 #topic Review last meeting for items - actions and ideas 03:58:23 .fas Bckurera 03:58:24 bckurera: bckurera 'Buddhika Kurera' 03:58:48 bckurera, actually, you dont need to do that everytime change nick :) 03:58:58 meetbot doesnt keep track of it anyway 03:59:26 thankx for reminding 03:59:28 KageSenshi, last time we references to your fosscam.org 03:59:44 http://fosscam.org for the Fosdem-like event in APAC. 03:59:49 #idea Fosdem-like event in APAC. 04:00:18 hurm .. after a bit of a thought .. i'm changing the format abit 04:00:22 how is the progress KS 04:01:01 due to theres already quite a number of foss conferences in .MY .. with slightly different target audience 04:01:41 MOSC (http://conf.oss.my), MyGOSSCon (for government), 04:01:54 it is better i think, further we are planning to host such event but funds are not eduquate, we are searching for a sponsorship here 04:02:36 so i'm thinking of, instead of a large conference, we do it smaller scale, at some beach/resort somewhere .. 04:02:49 Cool! 04:02:51 +1 04:03:09 sure thats the target about 30 to 50 people nt a large scale one :) 04:03:10 1st day , a mini conference, 2nd day several barcamp style devrooms/devgroups .. 04:03:42 #link http://conf.oss.my 04:03:49 dramsey, http://lists.fosscam.org/pipermail/team2010/ our ML is here 04:04:05 if u want i can subscribe u in 04:04:09 #idea to open an online media store 04:04:19 CF 04:04:20 http://conf.oss.my), 04:04:27 #idea to open an online media store 04:04:30 what about this we didnt talk of that ne 04:04:32 thank you bckurera 04:06:01 erm ? 04:06:20 * KageSenshi having trouble to understand that last line bckurera said .. 04:06:24 Great information KageSenshi 04:07:05 should be discuss about the online media store or not?? 04:07:09 KageSenshi, do you need other APAC ambassadors who are interested to be country reps the fosdem-like event in APAC. 04:07:33 #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-05-16/fedora-meeting.2010-05-16-03.23.html 04:07:45 for what was thought of last time. 04:07:50 dramsey, it'll be good .. but high priority right now .. venue first :) .. 04:07:58 +1 04:08:01 Understood 04:08:03 *but not high priority 04:08:15 ok i messed up my sentence 04:08:16 lol 04:08:29 dramsey, it'll be good .. but thats not high priority right now .. high priority -> venue first :) .. 04:08:32 #idea venue for APAC Fosdem 04:08:56 somewhere in MY right? 04:09:01 in .MY yeah 04:09:05 for this year at least 04:09:58 it'll be great if the brand can be moved around APAC :) for later years 04:10:03 #link http://lists.fosscam.org/pipermail/team2010 for subscribe 04:10:10 +1 understood 04:10:46 #link http://lists.fosscam.org/mailman/listinfo theres 2 ml, one for team one for public 04:10:50 good idea sound grate 04:11:18 +1 04:11:26 Are there any actions / ideas which we need other Ambassadors to know? 04:12:02 i mainly need country reps as point of contact for promotion .. once we start promoting i'll ping the -ambassadors ML 04:12:24 if you 04:12:56 me too acting as a country rep. r8 04:13:05 whoops, If you like then will make an action for Country Reps to promote the Fosdem like event. Sound good? 04:13:11 i thin i was appointed from the last meeting 04:13:41 dramsey, make that action for next meeting :) .. 04:13:56 #action Country Reps to promote the Fosdem like event. 04:14:04 XD 04:14:14 bckurera, please help understand. What happened? 04:14:16 dramsey, ure giving me the pressure! .. haha .. dammit 04:14:29 :P 04:14:39 いじわる 04:14:52 :P 04:15:25 I think we make good ideas to help us for future. 04:15:26 ijiwaru? 04:15:28 We can do 04:15:35 Ah, wakata 04:15:42 :D 04:15:49 wakatta? 04:15:54 Or something like that 04:16:02 lcafiero, wakatta :) 04:16:09 domo 04:16:10 got it anyway 04:16:16 I understand 04:16:36 We may do good/great things for APAC. Progress takes time, true? 04:16:44 yeah 04:17:01 I think you guys are doing well 04:17:07 You have a big area to cover 04:17:10 +1 04:17:17 We are doing well, I believe, too. 04:17:20 Progress tame 04:17:36 whoops, keyboard, Progress and future takes time 04:18:12 Other ideas or next topic? 04:18:32 next topic +1 04:19:20 Cool 04:19:22 #topic Open floor 04:19:40 Other thoughts, questions, or ideas open floor to you. 04:20:48 #idea it is better we start thinking about FOSS day 2010 from now and planning 04:20:56 then we can come up with a nice plane 04:21:07 country wise and region wise too 04:21:08 bckurera, absolutely! 04:21:29 is there any plans 04:21:31 ?? 04:21:50 #action As bckurera has noted, make plans fod FOOS day 2010 in APAC! 04:21:51 :D 04:21:57 Whoop, FOSS 04:22:15 Do you mean Software Freedom Day? 04:22:35 whens the date again ?? 04:23:10 Yes, when? 04:23:27 For Software Freedom Day? It's in mid-September 04:23:34 Around the 16th 04:23:48 yes last 17th Sep 04:24:03 mainly its on the 3rd weekend of September 04:24:05 Is that FOSS Day somewhere? 04:24:16 My mistake if I thought only APAC... 04:24:37 so better come up with plans in next meeting think yourself what we can do to promote FOSS as well as Fedora 04:24:44 They haven't updated their web site from 2009 yet 04:24:51 Ah! 04:24:56 http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 04:25:08 Unless we're talking about another event 04:25:25 :) Yup, I got confused with our APAC thing. :) 04:25:30 Thank you, lcafiero 04:25:36 theres fossasia in november at vietnam http://fossasia.com/ < but their ML seems silent 04:25:39 As well as all APAC Ambassadors 04:26:38 Great ideas everyone! 04:26:39 :D 04:26:45 Other thoughts? 04:27:08 sure this is it 04:27:12 #idea Fosdem-like event in APAC. 04:27:18 #link http://www.softwarefreedomday.org 04:27:46 dramsey, whats with the dupes #idea entries >.< .. 04:27:52 i have a que. why microsoft invest on Fosdem events?? 04:28:11 microsoft want to associate themselves with FOSS 04:28:14 O:-) Whoops, I am feeling very clumsy, today. Sorry O:-) 04:28:26 in .My .. they are like the easiest sponsor to get money from for FOSS stuff 04:28:51 KageSenshi, do you have to do the reimbursements thing with Fedora? 04:29:02 I think that confuses some people. 04:29:15 How to do reimbursements that is. 04:29:39 erm .. i never did it >.< .. usually i just use my own money .. susmit is better to talk with regarding that 04:29:45 imo 04:30:02 +1 consult with Suresh on reimbursements/budget. 04:30:09 #idea Consult with Suresh on reimbursements/budget. 04:30:12 I also used my money for Release Party last week 04:30:30 susmit == suresh ? 04:30:32 tuanta, will you get reimbursed? 04:30:35 did all necessary actions to request for a reimbursement 04:30:48 but no response up to now 04:30:51 Whoops, Susmit. :) 04:30:58 no response! 04:31:26 I think at least he should respond us that we need wait more or something like that :( 04:31:30 #idea consult with Susmit on reimbursements/budget. 04:31:41 i think we need a clear reimbursement guide specifically for APAc 04:31:45 who to contact etc 04:31:59 what forms to fill or what details to provide 04:32:01 stuff like that 04:32:20 True! 04:32:25 Tell me more about reimbursed?? 04:32:39 +1 KageSenshi, I think the APAC Ambassadors need help. 04:32:42 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Reimbursements 04:32:54 KageSenshi +1 04:33:00 I think the person in charge of reimbursement issues is Harish 04:33:10 I met him last month in Hanoi 04:33:15 harish been quite bz recently i think 04:33:32 he doesnt yet reply to my mail for POSSE my too 04:33:35 Harish as well as Susmit want to help us. 04:33:49 he is still so active on Facebook :) 04:34:09 I met Harish before here in Tokyo. 04:34:14 tuanta, that .. i couldnt deny .. >.< 04:34:17 +1 tuanta 04:34:26 True KageSenshi 04:34:52 :) 04:35:05 so please be patient :) 04:35:32 he got like 3 emails .. /me wonders which is his primary 04:35:35 we need help but they are not responding 04:35:56 send for all 3 then he should get them right 04:36:24 theres 2 @rh.com (probably alias to same inbox), 1 @ieee.org , 1 @gmail.com 04:36:41 hope gmail is the primry isnt it 04:36:46 Susmit told me to create a ticket "We are using FAmSCo's ticketing system to track reimbursement requests. " 04:36:58 but no one respond me 04:36:59 Okay 04:37:24 my ticket stage is still "new" :) 04:37:57 Ah... 04:38:03 sounds like follow needed. 04:38:14 +1 04:38:36 #info Tuanta's ticket for reimbursement request needs update/assistance 04:38:39 +1\ 04:38:46 Other needs/ideas? 04:39:03 Looks like the media as well as reimbursement, others? 04:39:10 yes 04:39:16 both are v important 04:39:21 +1 04:39:31 further please update event page OK 04:39:31 dramsey, i think a mention of the ticket id / url in #info should be good 04:39:51 Good idea!] 04:39:53 KS +1 04:40:00 Tuanta, what is the ticket number / url? 04:40:02 tuanta, what the ticket ID ? 04:40:37 famsco trac is a bit too restrictive to my liking >.< .. 04:40:41 65 04:40:42 https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/65 04:41:14 #action https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/65 needs an update for the ambassador's reimbursement. 04:41:18 Sound right? 04:41:24 yeap 04:41:35 thanks 04:41:42 Cool 04:41:44 Other needs/ideas? 04:41:47 It has been opened 4 weeks ago 04:41:52 rightly dome 04:42:27 i dnt have priviladge to view the ticket y? 04:42:28 btw .. i want to know if anybody can give me access to this ticket (add CC or something) https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/47 04:42:53 What happened KageSenshi, is this an outstanding reimbursement? 04:43:04 you should login with your fas account 04:43:07 bckurera, its the FAMSCo trac restriction, which only allows ticket owner and trac admin to view 04:43:27 got it 04:43:32 thanks KS 04:43:33 +1 04:43:54 (actually you can give someone just ticket_view if you wanted, but its global, not ticket-specific) 04:43:54 dramsey, something about eventbox, i was pointed to but i myself not sure whats the ticket content 04:44:22 meeting about 1.30 hrs long huh :) 04:44:28 #action KageSenshi needs to review the content/access of https://fedorahosted.org/famsco/ticket/47 04:44:30 Sound good? 04:44:36 yeah 04:44:37 thanks 04:44:57 +1 04:45:04 This is great discussion! 04:45:07 so long today :) 04:45:14 and so cool 04:45:23 :D 04:45:24 Other needs/ideas? 04:45:28 thanks nb! 04:45:31 FWIW If ambassadors-apac would like a trac of their own, we can make one 04:47:43 any more? 04:47:45 hurm .. 04:47:48 Interesting, as long as the APAC Ambassadors' information is there and addressed as well as helps the ambassador accomplish what is needed and not complicated to follow. 04:47:59 I am good to go, others? 04:48:08 +1 04:48:14 +1 04:48:30 Thank you all for attending and see you on the June 2thnd at 03:00 UTC. :) 04:48:35 Have a great day 04:48:38 Thank you! 04:48:39 5 04:48:41 4 04:48:43 3 04:48:44 2 04:48:45 1 04:48:47 0.5 04:48:47 sorry the date 04:48:55 thank you all! 04:49:04 june 2nd 04:49:05 Whoops, copy and pasty 2thnd should be 22nd! 04:49:06 :D 04:49:15 ahhh 04:49:18 Whoops, 20th... 04:49:19 got it 04:49:21 :D 04:49:25 c u all then 04:49:30 Thank you all for attending 04:49:32 thank you all 04:49:32 0.5 04:49:41 0 04:49:42 #endmeeting