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01:00:13 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting
01:00:45 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Announcements
01:01:09 <StabbyMc> Hi everyone, it looks like we'll likely have a short meeting, judging by the agenda.
01:01:17 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-5-19
01:01:30 <StabbyMc> So anyone have announcements?
01:01:35 * nb wonders are we not having the whos here part?
01:01:36 <ke4qqq> !
01:01:55 * VileGent 
01:01:59 <rbergeron> roll call has been off the table for some time now. :)
01:02:02 <inode0> Congratulations and good luck to jds2001 :)
01:02:08 <rbergeron> inode0: +1 :)
01:02:14 <VileGent> ???
01:02:18 <StabbyMc> nb: because if you say anything, you'll now be in the meetbot attendence list :-)
01:02:25 <nb> StabbyMc, oh ok
01:02:29 * nb hasn't been at one in a while
01:02:31 <nb> sorry
01:02:39 <dmaxel> its ok nb
01:02:47 <ke4qqq> so I have an announcement
01:02:56 * StabbyMc recognizes ke4qqq
01:02:58 <ke4qqq> I am looking for someone who hopefully is in the southeast
01:03:07 <ke4qqq> and likes dealing with swag and shipping it
01:03:21 * ke4qqq looks at VileGent and makfinsky hopefully
01:03:33 <VileGent> i am thinking about it
01:03:42 * slipp3d ... is glad that I'm in the north...
01:03:45 <ke4qqq> if you are interested, let me know, find me on irc, email me, etc.
01:03:46 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq: how many packages a week/month do you ship?
01:04:24 <ke4qqq> StabbyMc: 0.25 on average
01:04:33 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq: so one a month?
01:04:35 <inode0> in my experience it is very spurty
01:04:45 * nb is in southern indiana, which isn't exactly southeast
01:04:48 <nb> but i can help if you need someone
01:04:50 <ke4qqq> yeah on average - sometimes I'll ship 3 things a month and then go months without
01:04:55 <inode0> nb: we can talk :)
01:05:06 <slipp3d> would be willing to help but i'm in the north west
01:05:06 <ke4qqq> inode0: don't steal volunteers from me :)
01:05:11 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq: I can throw my hat in the ring too.
01:05:26 <StabbyMc> So as an announcement to all:
01:05:27 <ke4qqq> slipp3d: we can prolly hook you up too I imagine
01:05:45 <StabbyMc> People who have served as the regional ambassadors for SWAG have been serving for a long time
01:05:54 <StabbyMc> And are looking to maybe be replaced.
01:05:56 <slipp3d> sounds good to me... just keep me in the loop...
01:05:59 <ke4qqq> s/a long time/too long/
01:06:15 <StabbyMc> Obviously ke4qqq is looking for someone to replace in the SE.
01:06:19 * nb goes by a UPS store almost every day so it'd be easy to drop off packages
01:06:24 <StabbyMc> inode0 is also looking for a replacement in the midwest.
01:06:46 * dmaxel is busy as it is
01:07:04 <StabbyMc> nb: we have a UPS account, so you can do all the printing and boxing, and literally just drop it off at the UPS store.
01:07:11 <inode0> busy isn't persuasive in my world
01:07:16 <nb> StabbyMc, yeah
01:07:20 <nb> StabbyMc, thats what i meant
01:07:20 <ke4qqq> inode0: lol
01:07:28 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq, inode0: any of the other guys looking to be replaced as well?
01:07:30 <dmaxel> inode0: slip into my shoes and then you'll know why ;)
01:07:36 <slipp3d> I know that i'm cleaning off my plate a bit so i would have time to sort and mail things out from my neck of the woods
01:07:42 * inode0 doesn't have time
01:07:49 <ke4qqq> StabbyMc: I *think* herlo said he was interested in it.
01:07:56 <ke4qqq> but don't quote me on it
01:08:09 <rbergeron> i can replace herlo. not that he's replaceable. *sniff*
01:08:18 <inode0> nb: let's just talk later about it, I'd be happy to help you get started
01:08:19 <rbergeron> but i'm in his neck of the woods.
01:08:23 <nb> inode0, ok
01:09:02 <ke4qqq> EOF
01:09:21 <StabbyMc> Other announcements?
01:09:30 <inode0> that might clean out one fad topic
01:09:40 <lcameron> F13 is go
01:10:00 * slipp3d is happy to hear that F13 is a go!
01:10:11 * dmaxel can now sleep in peace
01:10:14 <dmaxel> haha
01:10:30 <StabbyMc> any word on media for F13?
01:10:38 <ke4qqq> what word are you looking for
01:10:49 <StabbyMc> mainly, are we getting any.
01:10:53 <StabbyMc> has it been paid for.
01:11:08 <StabbyMc> are we going to get it sooner than 4 months after release? ;-)
01:11:29 <ke4qqq> so supposeduly - yes, arranged, and supposedly
01:11:30 <ke4qqq> :)
01:11:39 <ke4qqq> wow I can't type
01:12:17 <StabbyMc> Other announcements?
01:12:21 <slipp3d> it's okay ke4qqq we won't hang you for lack of typing skills
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01:13:05 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Fedora Ambassador Day
01:13:12 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_NA_2010
01:13:23 * StabbyMc turns the floor over to rbergeron and inode0
01:13:56 <rbergeron> if you need to know who you are rooming with, who you are airport-traveling with, or what people's phone numbers are, please figure that out by looking at the wiki and talking to the appropriate travel buddy.
01:14:00 <rbergeron> that is all.
01:14:04 <rbergeron> that i have. :)
01:14:23 * rbergeron yields to inode0
01:15:31 <slipp3d> looks like fun guys wish i could have taken the time off of work for it ... maybe next year
01:16:13 * rbergeron notes that lcafiero is going to outshine us all with his pre-made presentation on his FAD topic
01:16:23 <rbergeron> inode0: yoo hoo
01:17:01 <rbergeron> okay, well, i think that's it, unless anyone has outstanding questions on the FAD or anyone has anything they'd like to see discussed that isn't on the wiki.
01:18:00 <rbergeron> ....and i'll take that as a no. stabby, feel free to stab onwards. :)
01:18:02 <inode0> sorry
01:18:05 <rbergeron> oh.
01:18:08 * rbergeron spoke too soon
01:18:11 <inode0> a little fadna planning interruption there
01:18:17 <rbergeron> inode0: anything you want to add
01:18:46 <inode0> things are looking good on this end of things
01:19:05 * inode0 is looking forward to seeing everyone at the end of the week
01:19:19 * rbergeron is bringing her swan protection gear
01:19:26 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Events
01:19:34 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents
01:19:42 <inode0> full body armor?
01:19:46 <StabbyMc> any Events that needs stuff that don't have stuff?
01:19:58 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq: how you doing with SELF?
01:20:20 <VileGent> I have been working on SELF FOSSCON summit logistics
01:20:43 <VileGent> as far as eventbox and banners
01:20:47 <ke4qqq> SELF is going -
01:20:58 <ke4qqq> ironing out the FAD stuff still
01:21:03 <inode0> I'll begin helping with the Summit post fadna - I promise
01:21:04 <ke4qqq> though sparks is taking the lead there
01:21:17 <ke4qqq> help and attendees welcome :)
01:21:20 <rbergeron> which FAD - the actual fad, or the advertised FAD?
01:21:55 <StabbyMc> rbergeron Fedora Activity Day at SELF
01:22:22 <rbergeron> stabbymc: yes, but i believe we have sort of mysteriously schedule one for friday, and one for sunday.
01:22:29 <rbergeron> unless that detail has been ironed out, ke4qqq?
01:22:41 <ke4qqq> so ianweller is doing a wiki thing on friday
01:22:53 <ke4qqq> which we aren't announcing outside the fedora community
01:22:57 <ke4qqq> and it's focused on work
01:23:21 <ke4qqq> since we had such incredible response to the announcement of FAD at SELF we are going to handle that as more trying to rope new potential contributors in
01:23:34 * inode0 notes there is a spectacular speaker line-up at SELF
01:23:35 * dgilmore hides in teh corner
01:23:48 <rbergeron> so that is sunday
01:24:21 <StabbyMc> For those interested...
01:24:24 <StabbyMc> #link http://www.southeastlinuxfest.org/
01:24:33 <ke4qqq> yes
01:25:30 * inode0 has another announcement
01:25:40 <rbergeron> do we have a wiki spot where we can volunteer to assist in either day's efforts
01:25:42 * laubersm cannot make Fri but is still trying to figure out if Sat/Sun is an option...
01:25:49 <ke4qqq> rbergeron: yes, let me get you a link
01:26:02 <ke4qqq> laubersm: hope you can come
01:26:32 <ke4qqq> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SELF_2010
01:26:41 <ke4qqq> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_@_SELF_2010
01:27:47 <inode0> 30 minutes from now will be the 2nd FESCo town hall
01:28:11 <rbergeron> and i hear there is a fabulous moderator
01:28:47 <rbergeron> have we found anyone who is local to FOSSCON to attend and do booth yet?
01:29:10 <ke4qqq> is that a problem really?? I mean mchua, karlie, bpowell is even close
01:29:20 <ke4qqq> didn't we say we'd send 330
01:30:00 <rbergeron> i think we said we'd send him if we didn't find someone else.
01:30:08 * inode0 recalls it being if needed
01:30:10 <rbergeron> i think all those folks are presenting, which means the booth is left unmanned.
01:30:23 <rbergeron> possibly.
01:31:30 <ke4qqq> at the same time?
01:31:32 <VileGent> all i know for fosscon is i am sending to cprofitt and mel is hauling the stuff to the summit in boston
01:32:09 * rbergeron summons threethirty
01:32:15 * threethirty apears
01:32:26 <rbergeron> threethirty: have you sorted anything out as far as FOSSCON
01:32:29 <slipp3d> speak of the devil ... and 330 appears
01:32:39 <rbergeron> yeah, the devil whispered to him to come over :)
01:32:49 * rbergeron grabs her halo from her back pocket to get back to normal
01:32:54 <VileGent> the boss you mean
01:33:20 <threethirty> rbergeron: no i havent, i put up my proposal up on the wiki and waited to see if a local was going to step up
01:33:44 <ke4qqq> threethirty: send a mail to the list asking for locals and linking to your proposal
01:33:50 <rbergeron> can you mail the known locals directly and the list and
01:33:52 <ke4qqq> we need to hurry and make that decision one way or the other
01:33:54 <rbergeron> ...
01:33:57 <rbergeron> yeah, what ke4qqq says
01:36:52 <StabbyMc> Other Event stuff?
01:37:02 <StabbyMc> Summit?
01:37:06 <ke4qqq> do we need to do anytihng for summit
01:37:38 * StabbyMc is asking
01:37:43 <rbergeron> if you're planning on going, and you're needing a pass to get into the expo area, talk to stickster, it may or may not be too late.
01:37:51 <rbergeron> and by expo area i mean - where the fedora booth is.
01:38:03 <rbergeron> there is an actual summit planning mailing list now...
01:38:07 * rbergeron looks that one up
01:38:14 <laubersm> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Summit_2010
01:38:39 <rbergeron> #link https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/summit-planning
01:39:02 <rbergeron> note, if you're a paid attendee you don't need a special expo-only pass.
01:40:33 <StabbyMc> More Event stuff?
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01:41:21 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Budget Review
01:41:29 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/NA/Budget
01:41:56 <StabbyMc> The only thing I have in an appology, I've not gotten replenishment pen or button orders done.
01:42:15 <StabbyMc> If someone would be interested in taking the buttons off my plate, I'd be happy to share the wealth.
01:42:18 * ke4qqq has been delinquent in updating that
01:43:17 <StabbyMc> Ok...
01:43:24 * StabbyMc scoops buttons back onto my plate.
01:43:37 <ke4qqq> nb?? slipp3d ?? wanna help StabbyMc out?
01:44:11 <StabbyMc> Other budget items?
01:44:11 <slipp3d> is it shipping or finding and a supplier?
01:44:20 <nb> oops
01:44:21 <nb> sorry
01:44:29 <StabbyMc> slipp3d: it's getting an order together and sending an invoice to Max.
01:44:41 <StabbyMc> slipp3d: then shipping them to the regional ambassadors.
01:44:55 <nb> StabbyMc, do we already have a supplier?
01:45:01 <StabbyMc> nb: we do.
01:45:03 * StabbyMc finds the page.
01:45:14 <nb> StabbyMc, will they send us an invoice or do we have to pay first and get reimbursed?
01:45:53 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Swag_vendors
01:46:02 <StabbyMc> It's the "Pure Buttons" vendor about 1/2 way down.
01:46:14 <slipp3d> nb sounds like you have it ... after July 1 I will have tons more time
01:46:44 <StabbyMc> nb: you get the invoice to spevack.  Then sometimes he needs a little follow-up nudge to remember to pay it.
01:47:26 <StabbyMc> nb: so mostly it's calling the vendor, they've already done an order for us, making sure they have what they need to do another order, and getting the invoice into spevacks hands.
01:47:44 <StabbyMc> nb: after meeting, want to chat in #fedora-ambassadors?
01:48:27 <nb> sure
01:48:33 <StabbyMc> Ok.
01:48:40 <StabbyMc> Other Budget related stuff?
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01:49:38 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Unfinsihed Business/Open Floor
01:49:44 <StabbyMc> Ok, we've got 10 minutes left.
01:49:50 <StabbyMc> So lets open floor.
01:50:00 <StabbyMc> Anybody got some gripes or ideas that need wrangling?
01:50:30 * ke4qqq reminds people going to fadna (with fedora sponsorship) of the blogging responsibility EOF
01:50:54 * slipp3d wishes that meeting days were on a different day ... Tuesday is hard for me
01:51:02 <gholms> How about an unrelated question that you guys would probably be the best to ask?
01:51:07 <ke4qqq> gholms: ask
01:51:14 <ke4qqq> no need for permission
01:51:46 <ke4qqq> slipp3d: shoot an email to the list with the schedule you propose and see the feedback it gets
01:52:09 <zodbot> Announcement from my owner (nb): Fedora Town Hall at 0200 UTC (10:00 pm US-Eastern) with the FESCo candidates. Visit https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Elections#IRC_Town_Halls for information on how to participate and pose questions to the candidates.
01:52:10 <gholms> I'm looking for a Fedora polo shirt not unlike the ambassador ones, just without "Ambassador" on them.  Recommendations?  ;)
01:52:28 <ke4qqq> gholms: check out StabbyMc's dress shirts
01:52:29 <StabbyMc> gholmes: we have a button up shirt like that, but not a polo
01:52:50 <inode0> you will get feedback that every day possible is horrible for 20 other people
01:53:04 <gholms> StabbyMc: Have a link handy?
01:53:10 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/ButtonUp
01:53:55 <gholms> Dang, it's white.  I'll phone them up and see what they can do.  Thanks!
01:54:28 <StabbyMc> gholms: white is the only approved color we've done.  They could probably make you a black one, but don't know how the logo will pop on it.
01:54:35 * slipp3d bookmarks that ...
01:54:38 * gholms is looking for blue
01:55:18 <StabbyMc> gholms: I wanted black, but was happy with white because most people wear them with either jeans or khakis.  With jeans, blue shirts look silly.
01:55:28 <gholms> 'Tis true.
01:55:39 <slipp3d> very true
01:55:45 <StabbyMc> Ok, I'm going to go ahead and call the meeting
01:55:52 <gholms> Heh, thanks, folks.
01:55:58 <StabbyMc> We can move back over to #fedora-ambassadors for more discussion.
01:56:06 <rbergeron> FESCo townhall, for those interested, in 4 minutes :)
01:56:10 <nb> gholms, per the logo guidelines When the logo is used on a background that is darker than 50% grey, you should reverse the type to white for legibility:
01:56:12 <slipp3d> sounds good
01:56:20 <nb> http://fedoraproject.org/w/uploads/8/86/Logo_UsageGuidelines_logodarkbg.png
01:56:21 <gholms> nb: Of course.
01:56:21 <StabbyMc> #endmeeting