21:00:34 <jforbes> #startmeeting Cloud SIG 21:00:34 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May 6 21:00:34 2010 UTC. The chair is jforbes. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 21:00:34 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 21:00:49 <jforbes> Anyone around? 21:01:34 <Tucos> i'm listening, if that counts .. 21:01:51 <smooge> here 21:01:58 <smooge> hi jforbes how are things? 21:02:08 <smooge> I am here to be the lt 21:02:12 <jforbes> smooge: heya... Going well, how about you? 21:03:43 <smooge> doing well I think. Been talking with greg about Cloud SIG and saw you got the nod 21:04:03 <smooge> cool 21:04:11 <jforbes> Oh, was that posted somewhere? 21:05:02 * huff here 21:05:31 <jforbes> excellent 21:05:46 <jforbes> Okay. Let's get started, and hope others wander in 21:05:47 * gregdek hullos :) 21:06:00 <jforbes> #topic EC2 Image Status 21:06:08 <jforbes> heya gregdek 21:07:02 <smooge> I am confused on the EC2 status at the moment 21:07:17 <smooge> I think someone said selinux was now working.. but not how/why 21:07:27 <jforbes> So I did some testing with the updated kickstart yesterday, and (with the minor modification back to xvda) it generated a locally bootable image, using the kernel and initrd that we published on EC2. I know a few others said they would try local images, any reports? 21:07:50 <jforbes> smooge: it was missing a package or two, huff fixed that, I just verified that it was working 21:08:08 <huff> jforbes: so we want xvda or sda 21:08:18 <jforbes> huff: xvda 21:08:41 <huff> jforbes: is that what amazon uses ill my ec2 images use sda 21:08:45 <huff> all 21:08:46 <jforbes> huff: though I need to upload this image to test on EC2 proper (wanted to wait until it wouldn't kill my bandwidth) 21:08:58 <huff> ack 21:09:10 <jforbes> huff: it isn't so much a host thing, the host supports both. 21:09:40 <jforbes> EC2 is happy with both, F12 is happier with xvda 21:10:07 <huff> ok if thats the case 21:10:11 <huff> works for me 21:10:41 <huff> jforbes: do you have a xen para virt config file you can send me and I can test here too 21:10:52 <jforbes> huff: I sent it to the list 21:11:16 <huff> rgr 21:11:20 <smooge> ok question... 21:11:32 <smooge> with F13 almost out the door, when do we want to rebase? 21:11:32 <jforbes> hopefully answer :) 21:12:15 <jforbes> smooge: Honestly, as soon as we get an F12 image posted, we should start working on the F13. I expect it to go more quickly since we should already have a sane base to work with 21:12:37 <smooge> ok cool 21:12:48 <jforbes> Oxf13: you around? 21:12:54 <Oxf13> I am indeed 21:13:17 <jforbes> Oxf13: I haven't seen the latest, is F13 slipping, or still undetermined? 21:13:34 <Oxf13> undetermined, but it'd take a miracle to not slip at this point 21:14:12 <jforbes> hoping for a miracle, but it is possible that slip will allow us to publish F13 images at or very close to release day 21:14:47 <jforbes> huff: are you happy with the ks file as it is, or have you gotten feedback from others regarding packages which should or should not be included? 21:15:49 <huff> jforbes: I have gotten no feed back so I say let roll with this a take suggestions/patches as they come 21:15:59 <jforbes> Works for me. 21:16:11 <jforbes> Anything else on the image status topic? 21:17:02 <smooge> one thing for me was getting amazon access. I wasn't sure what the steps were 21:17:25 <jforbes> smooge: to run images, publish images, or both? 21:19:15 <smooge> both 21:19:16 <smooge> sorry. 21:19:29 <jforbes> smooge: Actually pretty much either way, I will need to synch with gregdek to get details there. We have an official Fedora account for S3 storage to publish images, but I don't want to run them there since that is still billing to my credit card 21:19:48 <smooge> oh definately not 21:19:58 <jforbes> smooge: There is another account for testing that we can get you the details on, but I am not sure what the usage restrictions are there. 21:20:00 <smooge> I guess i should check with spot if I could get reimbursed on that too 21:20:27 * smooge somewhere in Mass, spot's money ulcer flares. 21:20:38 <gregdek> jforbes, I will be transferring all that info tomorrow. 21:20:50 <jforbes> smooge: and of course if you have your own account, you can upload your own images now. The kernels we are using are publicly visible now, so anyone can create their own F12 based images 21:20:56 <jforbes> gregdek: excellent 21:21:11 <jforbes> Any additional topics? 21:21:29 <jforbes> #Topic Open Floor 21:21:46 <smooge> not much. I think we can go for F12 images by next week? and F13 by June 1st? 21:22:20 <jforbes> smooge: I certainly hope so. 21:22:46 <smooge> okie dokie 21:22:47 <jforbes> I would like to see the F13 images use pvgrub as well, but it is not a hard requirement. 21:23:13 <smooge> well then my next topic would be "Whats next?" but I think we will have to wait on that 21:23:34 <jforbes> It would be great to get this in as a Feature for F14, and turn the image creation/publishing over to release engineering 21:23:36 <huff> jforbes: I have some info on that and am working with amazon 21:23:54 <jforbes> There are a number of steps required there though, and none worth taking until we have a working image. 21:24:08 <jforbes> huff: great. Public info? 21:25:23 <huff> jforbes: not %100 sure they seem pretty happy with pvgrub 21:26:05 <huff> and I have seen some working pvgrub kernels I have a meeting with them next week ill find out the status 21:26:17 <jforbes> huff: Okay. So we will have to work with them and see what their preference is. At least we have something to work with in the meantime 21:26:53 <jforbes> Any other topics? 21:28:16 <jforbes> All right, will leave the floor open 1 more minute, then close 21:29:16 <jforbes> #endmeeting