05:00:03 <paragan> #startmeeting i18n
05:00:03 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu May  6 05:00:03 2010 UTC.  The chair is paragan. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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05:00:25 <paragan> #info https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/I18N/Meetings/2010-05-06
05:00:48 <juhp> hi
05:01:24 <epico_laptop> hi
05:02:14 <paragan> yesterday was Final Freeze for Fedora 13
05:03:34 <juhp> yes
05:03:35 <paragan> also F13 release notes are closed now
05:03:42 <paragan> here is the official page for it http://docs.fedoraproject.org/release-notes/f13/en-US/html/sect-Release_Notes-I18n.html
05:03:50 <dychen_> hi
05:04:21 <paragan> I hope we have included all the necessary changes that we made in Fedora 13 development
05:04:24 <juhp> paragan: looks good :)
05:04:47 <paragan> cool
05:05:39 <paragan> lets go through bugs list for F13
05:06:38 <paragan> we got zero blocker bugs now
05:08:11 <paragan> there are 11 bugs blocking F13Target and most of them are having status "ON_QA"
05:08:25 <juhp> yeah
05:08:50 <paragan> but still one bug is remaining to be fixed for paktype-naskh-basic-fonts
05:09:05 <juhp> .bug 586797
05:09:06 <zodbot> juhp: Bug 586797 lang-specific overrides rule doesn't work as expected - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=586797
05:09:17 <paragan> nkumar, can you check above bug and fix it?
05:09:46 <paragan> juhp, also I think https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=578015 should be marked as Tracker right?
05:09:54 <nkumar> Oops! I just missed it, I will do it now
05:10:02 <paragan> ok
05:10:08 <juhp> I hope tagoh can push an update for bug 578015
05:10:24 <juhp> paragan: not completely - I think the templates need updating
05:10:52 <paragan> ok so we have bug fix as well as other bugs following this fix
05:11:45 <juhp> in fact I managed to reintroduce binding="same" to un-core-fonts by mistake because of the templates :-(
05:12:04 <paragan> hmm
05:12:23 <paragan> is it fixed in F13 then?
05:12:26 <juhp> but luckily dueno spotted it and is fixing I believe
05:12:30 <juhp> no it is in testing
05:12:40 <paragan> aha
05:12:41 <juhp> I should probably unpush it
05:12:52 <paragan> ok
05:12:59 <juhp> the priority needs updating too
05:13:50 <paragan> lets move on to F13 bugs
05:14:23 <paragan> there are 37 i18n bugs listed against Fedora 13 version
05:14:43 <paragan> I see 3 high priority bugs
05:14:58 <paragan> 2 of them are FTBFS
05:15:14 <paragan> .bug 538948
05:15:15 <zodbot> paragan: Bug 538948 FTBFS UnihanDb-5.1.0-7.fc12.2 - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=538948
05:15:24 <paragan> .bug 565035
05:15:26 <zodbot> paragan: Bug 565035 FTBFS gcin-1.4.6-1.fc13: ImplicitDSOLinking - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=565035
05:15:56 <juhp> dueno: ok I unpushed the un-core-fonts update
05:16:21 <paragan> dychen_, is bug 538948 fixed in Fedora 13?
05:17:06 <dueno> juhp: thanks, I'll push a new one today
05:17:12 <juhp> great
05:17:28 <paragan> dueno, any updates for gcin bug 565035
05:17:51 <dueno> I think 565035 should be marked as modified
05:18:28 <paragan> so patches are built and tested?
05:18:45 <dueno> paragan: the new gcin package by Chung-Yen seems to work fine here
05:19:00 <paragan> aha
05:19:27 <paragan> dueno, can you move it to MODIFIED, giving which build you tested there?
05:19:35 <dychen_> paragan: Probably not, flies consumes most of my time.
05:19:52 <paragan> dychen_, okay
05:19:56 <dueno> paragan: sure
05:21:19 <paragan> dychen_, I think its good to fix it before Fedora 13 release, so that it will be available as 0-day updates then
05:22:25 <dychen_> paragan: I'll try.
05:22:32 <paragan> dychen_, thanks
05:23:05 <paragan> epico_laptop, any updates on https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568613 ?
05:25:17 <paragan> let's try to fix more bugs before Fedora 13 release.
05:25:22 <epico_laptop> It is under review. Is it got approved?
05:25:47 <paragan> bug 568613
05:25:53 <paragan> .bug 568613
05:25:54 <zodbot> paragan: Bug 568613 Improve wqy-zenhei-fonts fontconfig conf file - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568613
05:26:17 <paragan> epico_laptop, https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568613#c13
05:26:50 <epico_laptop> Yes, the proposal is sent to fedora i18n and fonts mailing list.
05:27:13 <epico_laptop> This change also requires some changes on uming and ukai.
05:27:36 <epico_laptop> It is a change which will change TC/SC in the same time.
05:28:02 <epico_laptop> binding="same" is already removed.
05:28:09 <epico_laptop> and in updates repo.
05:28:22 <paragan> you can then update that bugzilla
05:28:29 <epico_laptop> ok
05:28:38 <paragan> thanks
05:28:42 <epico_laptop> welcome.
05:28:53 <paragan> #topic Splitting TC and SC
05:29:17 <epico_laptop> .bug 568613
05:29:19 <zodbot> epico_laptop: Bug 568613 Improve wqy-zenhei-fonts fontconfig conf file - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=568613
05:29:49 <epico_laptop> is tracking the TC/SC split, with title "Improve wqy*".
05:30:29 <paragan> epico_laptop, aha
05:31:05 <juhp> but seems fontconfig can't separate -cn and -tw?
05:31:09 <juhp> iiuc
05:31:20 <epico_laptop> I think tagoh is right. Sorry, in order to make fc-match gives correct answer, it maybe also need the orth changes in fontconfig.
05:31:25 <juhp> maybe too much overlapping orth?
05:31:33 <juhp> aha yeah
05:32:15 <epico_laptop> It is strange that gnome apps can choose correct fonts, but fc-match sans:lang=ll-ll not.
05:32:28 <juhp> epico_laptop: yeah
05:33:33 <epico_laptop> I used lsof /usr/share/fonts/*/* to detect apps uses which fonts actually.
05:34:41 <juhp> aha
05:35:00 <juhp> epico_laptop: so you tested with zh-cn instead of zh?
05:35:50 <epico_laptop> I choose the language in gdm greeter, tested with zh_CN, zh_TW, zh_HK.
05:36:00 <juhp> epico_laptop: I mean in .conf :)
05:36:22 <epico_laptop> juhp: yes. on http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/.
05:36:33 <juhp> ah I see
05:36:54 <epico_laptop> http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/65-0-ttf-arphic-uming.conf and http://pwu.fedorapeople.org/fonts-conf/65-0-wqy-zenhei.conf.
05:40:53 <nkumar> bug # 586797 Pushed to Bodhi...
05:41:20 <juhp> cool
05:41:38 <nkumar> Would need fast comment and testing though: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/paktype-naskh-basic-fonts-3.0-7.fc13
05:42:28 <paragan> nkumar, its already final freeze so it will go as 0-day update
05:42:47 <paragan> after F13 released
05:42:56 <nkumar> paragan: ok
05:44:08 <paragan> lets move on
05:44:19 <paragan> #topic input-methods
05:44:46 <juhp> phuang: I see ibus-1.3.3 is out
05:44:59 <juhp> I tested the embedded menu
05:45:19 <juhp> maybe need longer menu items for it?
05:45:50 <juhp> like short for langbar and long string for menu?
05:46:10 <phuang> yeah
05:47:08 <phuang> We have to improve it in future
05:47:13 <phuang> all IME need changes
05:51:19 <paragan> lets move on
05:51:27 <paragan> #topic #rawhide-bugs
05:52:08 <paragan> okay so there are 84 bugs against rawhide
05:52:19 <paragan> and looks most of them to fix fontconfig rules
05:52:50 <paragan> we still have good time to Fedora 14 Alpha
05:53:01 <paragan> so we will try to fix all those before that
05:53:26 <paragan> lets move on
05:53:43 <paragan> #topic open space
05:53:58 <paragan> anyone want to discuss any issue?
05:55:28 <juhp> phuang: ok
05:56:19 <paragan> if nothing then let's close the meeting
05:56:42 <paragan> thanks everyone for the meeting.
05:56:45 <juhp> cool
05:56:52 <juhp> good meeting!
05:56:57 <paragan> #endmeeting