03:04:01 #startmeeting 03:04:02 Meeting started Sun May 2 03:04:01 2010 UTC. The chair is dramsey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 03:04:04 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 03:04:11 #link 03:04:22 .fas lcafiero 03:04:22 https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Meetings/2010-05-02#Agenda 03:04:25 lcafiero: lcafiero 'Larry Cafiero' 03:04:29 .fas dramsey 03:04:31 dramsey: dramsey 'David Ramsey' 03:04:35 #chair dramsey 03:04:35 Current chairs: dramsey 03:04:37 I have already got a coffee now 03:04:40 .fas callkalpa 03:04:40 callkalpa: callkalpa 'W.H. Kalpa Pathum' 03:04:43 .fas tuanta 03:04:44 tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' 03:04:44 .fas izhar 03:04:49 KageSenshi: izhar 'Mohd Izhar Firdaus Ismail' 03:04:52 .ෆාස සනාවින 03:04:56 * lcafiero is observing from NA 03:04:59 .fas snavin 03:05:00 hanthana: snavin 'Danishka Navin' 03:05:11 #topic Ambassadors Members Pinging 03:05:27 I'm dramsey in Japan, where are you guys at? 03:05:38 I'm Kalpa from Sri Lanka 03:05:40 * hanthana is from Sri Lanka 03:05:46 I am Tuan from Vietnam 03:06:11 * KageSenshi from Malaysia 03:07:15 Fantastic! 03:07:48 there are more people today (than ever, I see) 03:07:53 ;-) 03:08:43 :-) 03:09:00 #link #topic Ambassadors Members Pinging 03:09:03 whoops 03:09:11 #topic News from FAmSCo (will skip this topic, if no FAmSCo information / representation is at meeting.) 03:09:28 Anyone have news from FAmSCo/questions if not then we will move on. 03:10:19 Okay, will skip. 03:10:21 #topic Planning and Preparation for Fedora 12 in 2010. 03:10:35 I am doing Fedora 12 DVD distributions every two weeks, how about you? 03:11:29 ! 03:11:31 I do not have any more plan for Fedora 12 03:11:43 yes, larry please empower us. 03:11:46 All I focus on now is for Fedora 13 03:11:46 Got some F12 live media and hope to distribute them in coming events 03:11:47 cool tuanta 03:11:49 Do you mean Fedora 13? 03:11:49 none for f12 .. but will be planning for fedora 13 .. 03:12:30 Excellent everyone. 03:12:35 Larry, good question, Fedora 13 / Release parties is our next topic. 03:12:42 Ah, sorry. 03:12:44 #topic Planning and Preparation for Release Events Fedora 13 in APAC. 03:12:45 * lcafiero sits down. 03:12:54 We will have a Fedora 13 release party in 26 of May in Hanoi 03:12:58 Please, good question, helps. 03:13:17 I hope Fedora 13 will be released in time (22 of May) 03:13:31 +1 tuanta 03:13:42 I am doing Fedora 13 release party / event, too. 03:14:03 * KageSenshi going to do one too , but havent decided the date 03:14:18 hanthana, and myself are also going to have one at the end of May 03:14:20 callkalpa: we can organized a one in end of May or mid of June :) 03:14:27 yeah 03:14:38 +1 KageSenshi 03:14:54 +1 callkalpa and hanthana 03:15:20 I won the prize for my Fedora 11 release party so now I am very excited to organize this 03:15:35 :) 03:16:04 Sidenote from last month's April meeting with susmit, "...03:24:40 for those who are planning to have release event, please start by having atleast a wiki page..03:25:45 that should detail approx. date, and budget requiremnents, plans, no of attendees....03:26:15 it would be easier to plan the disbursement of resourses accordingly. ." 03:16:10 Basically we will be doing a joint release party for Fedora 13 and Hanthana 13 (a fedora remix) 03:16:20 nice 03:16:50 how about the fund for the release party? 03:17:10 I would like to ask for fund about $120-$150 03:17:19 what do you think? 03:18:13 Ask. I think that we APAC have great support with susmit. We must do the wiki / budget plan to help them help support us. 03:18:15 :) 03:18:22 sure 03:18:24 I know 03:18:27 will do that 03:19:05 Good, if we have questions, susmit is very good to review our APAC meeting log and will give us guidance on what to do. I am very happy that we have susmit to support us. :) 03:19:36 I also believe that 03:19:51 I was very honored to meet Harish Pillay last month here in Tokyo. Harish wants to support us and is a very knowledgable person, too. :) 03:20:18 Cool. I think that our fedora-ambassadors mailing list will have more answers after I post the meeting logs. 03:20:47 #idea Verify what is needed to help support Fedora 13 Release Party / Event 03:20:50 sound like good idea? 03:21:10 yes 03:21:34 Excellent, good question. Everyone, please ask "anything" is good, to help others understand. ;) 03:21:40 Next topic then... 03:21:44 #then Report current status of upcoming Fedora Events in APAC. See Fedora Events page. 03:21:53 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents 03:22:10 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents#India.2C_Asia.2C_and_Australia_.28India.2FAPAC.29 03:22:23 I am doing a Fedora 12 today, how about you? 03:22:48 dramsey: good luck! 03:23:08 I registered my event here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events#APAC 03:23:09 hanthana, thank you. 03:23:34 Perfect link for the Release Events! 03:23:42 details here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Release_Party_F13_Hanoi 03:24:02 but currently, the budget have not calculated yet 03:24:06 We need more Fedora 13 Release Events/Parties at that link. 03:24:11 I will do next week 03:24:15 that's okay, must start from somewhere. 03:24:22 sure, I will need more 03:24:34 As always ask questions and understood, you can do it!!! :D 03:25:00 I hope we will have Release parties every where, all cities 03:25:51 Does sound like good action to have more Release Events/Parties at the link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events#APAC 03:25:52 I am trying to organize some more in other cities in Vietnam, but it is difficult to do that "remotely" 03:26:02 Ah, understood. 03:26:08 i've added an event in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Events#FY11_Q2_.28June_2010_-_August_2010.29_4 03:26:21 +1 KageSenshi! 03:26:28 Are there other ambassadors to help you tuanta? 03:26:45 there'll be a conference on june in .MY .. might need F13 cds :) 03:27:01 Do you need media KageSenshi or other support? 03:27:06 this time, I am the only Ambassador in Vietnam :-( 03:27:20 sounds like me in Japan... 03:27:22 ;( 03:27:25 dramsey, mainly media , and if theres some swags that'll be nicer :) 03:27:35 callkalpa: could u pls add our events ? 03:27:40 callkalpa: refer http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FedoraEvents/SriLanka/wilgamuwa 03:27:47 yeah sure 03:27:57 #topic media and swag request for KageSenshi. 03:28:11 I wonder if we can have "official" Fedora DVDs 03:28:15 in high quality 03:28:18 err .. #topic ? 03:28:21 #action Need more Fedora 13 Release Events/Parties for APAC at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events#APAC 03:28:31 callkalpa: thanks buddy :) 03:28:33 my self-burnt DVD is not good enough 03:28:35 whoops, topic, idea... 03:28:49 #idea media and swag request for KageSenshi. 03:28:54 dramsey, more coffee? >.< 03:28:54 dramsey, seems your badly sleepy 03:29:02 hahaha... 03:29:03 ;) 03:29:06 :) 03:29:09 But I try. 03:29:29 guys, who is going to write about F13? 03:29:30 tuanta, do you need media, too? 03:29:57 yes, I need 03:29:59 +1 for more events 03:30:18 hanthana, u mean in blogs?, documentation ? 03:30:48 callkalpa: blogs and new paper articles 03:30:56 writing to public 03:31:16 * KageSenshi scrolled up .. ok the automated meeting minutes would be a bit off today XD 03:31:21 I'm going to write a blog post for sure 03:31:29 nice 03:31:49 but it won't be enough, we want to go to public more 03:33:16 KageSenshi, seems the meetbot, did not delta my "topic" bad typo, very strange... 03:33:29 Are there other requests for media? 03:33:32 I need good Fedora DVDs, but I don 03:33:43 I link tuanta's question on Fedora 13 "Official" 03:33:45 brb 03:34:18 I am trying Fedora 13 now on four systems, the iso is sort of large...much larger than CD now. 03:34:29 but I don't know if FedoraProject can send some to Vietnam to me 03:34:55 Should we have an action/request for input from others to help with Fedora 13 media? 03:35:01 Can not hurt to ask. 03:35:07 Sounds like others need media, too. 03:35:39 May be good to have "great" Fedora 13 Release Event/Party with "professional or really cool" media. 03:35:45 I saw Ubuntu media sent directly to Ubuntu local team 03:35:55 I think that the North American Ambassadors are doing Fedora 13 USB Keys. 03:36:02 Wow! 03:36:03 it's so good and people like it when receive from Ubuntu local team 03:36:12 Good point. 03:36:28 they prefer to keep it 03:36:40 than a self-burnt DVD 03:36:50 ah... 03:37:00 Is great example, tuanta. 03:37:08 then let's make action. 03:37:47 See possibility of media for Fedora 13 for local Release Events/Parties, does that sound good everyone? Give +1, 0 or -1 for feedback. 03:38:05 i get my supply for nicely-printed cds from harish .. though i dont think we can have it for release parties .. coz it'll take some time to produce after a release .. 03:38:53 +1 for "official" Fedora 13 media 03:39:00 Ah, understood, thank you for clear idea, KageSenshi. :) 03:39:30 If not for the Release time, then for follow-on events, is good idea? 03:39:56 sure 03:40:40 Others ideas for media, please provide your ideas/feedback is important to know. I would "love" to have Fedora 13 media, preferably DVD myself. 03:40:49 If we have a good answer (yes) for the good media, we can arrange some more events 03:41:20 +1 tuanta! 03:42:18 we have got about approx. one FOSS event per month 03:42:49 I am usually organizer for those such events 03:43:02 Understood, last month azneita asked this, "...03:53:28 agree on that dramsey, any plans in the pipes for region-wide distribution of pressed media?..." May be an idea to see again. 03:44:49 So should I make "action" for request of Fedora 13 media? Please provide +1, 0, or -1 03:45:35 I think we have media/swag request is correct? 03:45:40 +1 03:45:48 +1 03:45:48 +1 for making an action 03:46:23 #action See possibility of media / swag for Fedora 13. 03:46:26 +1 03:46:31 Cool! 03:46:32 :) 03:46:44 Next topic everyone? 03:46:48 es 03:46:50 yes 03:47:05 #topic FreeMedia (will skip this topic, if there is no query.) 03:47:43 the query have been done earlier XD 03:47:52 I am doing Fedora 12 DVDs as well as loading USB keys with Fedora 12 image. May be future for us is DVDs / USB keys. 03:48:29 True, just following agenda, but saw listing at mailing list for freemedia so want to make sure is addressed. 03:48:35 Next topic then? 03:48:47 yes 03:48:54 #topic Plans on APAC coordination/organization 03:49:01 azneita, hello! 03:49:02 :) 03:49:11 Hi azneita 03:49:18 great to see you 03:49:24 why are you so late? :) 03:49:43 just saw the reminder just now 03:49:59 :) 03:50:32 sorry about that 03:50:34 azneita, any news for Fedora 12 / Fedora 13? How is your health? 03:50:46 My bad, I did not send out on Friday. :( 03:51:18 we're having a release party / meetup on the 22nd at SM North EDSA 03:51:33 just the usual suspects with one or two guests 03:51:56 +1 Cool, have a wiki / budget? We talked about https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events#APAC 03:52:03 rehab is getting along fine dramsey 03:52:29 Sending "recover" energy to you azneita. 03:52:36 i still have to put it on the wiki + any budget considerations 03:52:47 thanks dramsey 03:53:10 Good, good. tuanta is working wiki / budget too. 03:53:26 Do you have any Fedora media requests? How about that DVD gizmo? 03:54:47 haven't heard anything about the replicator yet 03:54:48 any arranging release events should (must) be posted onto the Wiki (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_release_events#APAC) for everyone to know 03:55:06 agree tuanta 03:56:16 dramsey: i actually sort of lost the ball on that one 03:56:35 it would be great if we can restart that effort 03:57:05 I am the voice of reminder of great ideas / initiatives... 03:57:12 haha 03:57:22 :D 03:57:27 Do you need any media / swag for your Fedora Event? 03:57:58 :) I believe that the best ideas and initiatives are by the people indeed. :) 03:59:45 I think that we must do our best to support F13, this will be an excellent release indeed. 03:59:57 +1 04:00:04 +1 04:00:16 +1 04:00:17 Also, I think that for Fedora 13, with the Release Parties/Events, consideration their media will need to be done. We must help Harish and Susmit know what we need in order to succeed. :) 04:00:25 Thank you all. 04:00:48 Next topic? 04:01:27 yep 04:01:32 #topic Open floor 04:01:49 Thank you all for attending and see you on the May 16th...03:00 UTC. 04:02:06 great to see all of you today 04:02:07 Other thoughts, questions, or ideas open floor to you. 04:02:11 a great meeting :) 04:02:12 +1 04:02:23 +1 04:02:27 +1 04:02:35 the best ever APAC meeting I attended 04:02:40 I think so, good questions and hopefully we have more answers...do not be shy for requests to help Fedora 13. We must do it!!! Yes, we can!!! :D 04:02:43 hurm .. what y'all think of a fosdem-like event in apac? >.< 04:02:58 a question... 04:03:02 KageSenshi: +1 04:03:07 i was actually thinking of something like that kageSenshi 04:03:27 Please give us ideas, example. 04:03:31 if we can only put forward a proposal for something like that 04:03:48 i have a small team here who are thinking of starting one .. 04:04:05 no solid stuff yet, just tentative idea a few days ago :D 04:04:19 tell us more Kage 04:04:26 ok lets try to organized APAC conf for 2010 04:04:44 if not at least we can start from 2011 onwards 04:04:45 azneita, http://fosdem.org/2010/ < trying to do something similar like this 04:04:47 our team in Manila is putting up a proposal for POSSE next Oct-Nov 04:05:20 totally free event, for contributors apac area to get together and share stuff .. 04:05:33 azneita: is it more in to education sector? 04:05:47 hanthana: yup 04:06:07 azneita, i'm putting up proposal for posse for next december too :) 04:06:16 cool 04:06:18 hear hear 04:07:24 hear hear.. 04:07:29 :D 04:07:34 :) 04:08:01 in any case we're interested in a fosdem-like event in apac this year or the next 04:08:02 azneita, dramsey , if we did confirmed on doing that, we would need cooperation of ppl around apac to promote it :D 04:08:15 +1 04:08:16 So an idea of "Fosdem-like event in apac." sound good? 04:08:30 yep :) 04:08:35 #idea Fosdem-like event in APAC. 04:08:47 :D We can do it! Yes, we can! :D 04:08:53 we the drivers for the event? or something like a booth and presentation? 04:08:55 yeah! 04:08:55 yes 04:09:13 azneita, how bout both? :P .. 04:09:39 the devil is in the details but i'd readily say yes 04:10:12 yeap devil in the details 04:10:56 we can also hold a FAD there for APAC organization 04:11:07 +1 04:11:10 meeting of devious minds 04:11:10 +1 04:11:13 +1 04:11:18 and put faces to nicks :D 04:11:47 yes. 04:12:14 :-[ dramsey does the "wave" to other APAC members fantastic! These are great ideas and initiatives! :-[ 04:12:32 so we're set for malaysia then :) 04:12:36 :D 04:13:12 hey KageSenshi, if we can help in sorting the details just ping us 04:13:29 i surely will :) 04:14:49 We must convey our thoughts to Harish and Susmit as well as others for support of these initiatives. I strongly think they will support us!!! The requirement must be understood. :) 04:14:54 Fantastic! 04:14:54 hanthana - http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/POSSE 04:15:40 azneita: yes, Sebastin started POSSE spin as well 04:16:31 pretty good 04:19:04 Other thoughts or close meeting? 04:19:49 none here :) 04:20:34 none here too 04:20:34 Okay. 04:20:40 :) azneita, get well soon! :) 04:20:56 thanks 04:21:22 :) 04:21:45 For Fedora 13, if you need media / swag, then make your requests known. We will do our best to make this a great Release indeed. :) 04:21:54 okay, closing in 04:21:59 5 04:21:59 yes 04:22:05 bye 04:22:07 4 04:22:10 3 04:22:13 2 04:22:16 1 04:22:23 0.5 04:22:25 thank you all for attending... 04:22:26 0 04:22:31 #endmeeting