01:00:37 <StabbyMc> #startmeeting 01:00:37 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Apr 21 01:00:37 2010 UTC. The chair is StabbyMc. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 01:00:39 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 01:00:44 <mock> .fasinfo 01:00:45 <zodbot> mock: (fasinfo <username>) -- Return information on a Fedora Account System username. 01:00:49 <StabbyMc> For those of you following along at home, meeting page 01:00:52 <mock> .fasinfo mock 01:00:54 <zodbot> mock: User: mock, Name: mark mcintyre, email: mark@mockgeek.com, Creation: 2008-07-25, IRC Nick: mock, Timezone: US/Eastern, Locale: en, Extension: 5111336, GPG key ID: , Status: active 01:00:56 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Meeting:Ambassadors_2010-4-21 01:00:59 <zodbot> mock: Unapproved Groups: fedorabugs 01:01:04 <zodbot> mock: Approved Groups: ambassadors cla_fedora cla_done 01:01:10 <StabbyMc> Like last meeting, we're going to do without roll call. 01:01:17 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting 01:01:28 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Announcements 01:01:36 <threethirty> .fas threethirty 01:01:37 <zodbot> threethirty: threethirty 'Justin O'Brien' <three@threethirty.us> 01:01:49 <mock> .fas mock 01:01:51 <zodbot> mock: actown 'Derrick Dymock' <actown@gmail.com> - mock 'mark mcintyre' <mark@mockgeek.com> - mocker '' <marin.julian@gmail.com> 01:01:55 <StabbyMc> We're not doing roll call. 01:01:55 <mock> :\ 01:02:08 <Arsenick> :( 01:02:11 <mock> :( 01:02:11 <StabbyMc> Turns out, if you talk, you're in the meeting minutes already. 01:02:16 <threethirty> ahh 01:02:18 <mock> ok 01:02:21 <StabbyMc> Anyone have announcements? 01:02:28 <makfinsky> .fas makfinsky 01:02:31 <zodbot> makfinsky: makfinsky 'Ivan Makfinsky' <ivan.makfinsky@endosys.com> 01:02:37 <StabbyMc> no roll call. 01:02:48 <StabbyMc> that means you makfinsky ;-) 01:02:50 <makfinsky> Doh! 01:02:57 <inode0> this change is entertaining 01:03:04 <rrix> 'lo everyone 01:03:04 * StabbyMc blames inode0 01:03:15 <StabbyMc> Announcements, topic is announcements. 01:03:21 <StabbyMc> You gots, then share. 01:03:43 <rbergeron> yooo! 01:03:47 <rbergeron> oh. 01:03:59 * rbergeron unrollcalls herself 01:04:18 <crossbytes> linux fest this weekend. leaving for bellingham on friday morning 01:04:42 <StabbyMc> crossbytes: you and lcafiero have that on the agenda towards the end of the meeting. 01:04:57 <StabbyMc> so I'll be yeilding the floor to you later to tell us more :-) 01:05:14 <StabbyMc> Announcements, going....Going.... 01:05:36 <StabbyMc> gone 01:05:38 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Fedora Ambassador Day 01:05:44 <StabbyMc> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_NA_2010 01:05:55 <StabbyMc> inode0: so what's the happy-haps with FAD? 01:06:22 <makfinsky> Got schedule online, got logistics except for hotel worked out. 01:06:24 <inode0> We are making agenda progress and soon should be able to make funding decisions. 01:06:40 <rbergeron> total cost of flights is currently at $2157. 01:06:46 <rbergeron> flights / car rentals / gas, etc. 01:06:58 <inode0> stop depressing me :) 01:07:13 <threethirty> rbergeron: does that include the lesser fare i found for myself? 01:07:37 <rbergeron> we finally have everyone's time allocations - i'm putting together the agenda right now, since everyone has added their durations for topics. 01:07:42 <rbergeron> threethirty: if it's $193, yes. 01:07:56 <threethirty> rbergeron: yep that the one 01:08:30 <rbergeron> as far as i can see - we have approximately 13 hours of things to do, if i use the "wide estimates" (ie, 90 minutes where people said 60-90). 01:08:51 <inode0> the preferred hotel is still iffy, I'll look into alternate arrangements but there are plenty 01:09:05 <rbergeron> no, 11 01:09:14 <rbergeron> but - i think some of these are vastly underestimated 01:09:20 <inode0> that can easily balloon into two days 01:09:42 <rbergeron> which is fine - we can budget like 5-6 hours each day, and have it be 9 hours of work each day, and still be kosher and not screwing ourselves. 01:09:55 <rbergeron> I think we have a solid set of objectives and deliverables. 01:10:07 <inode0> and if ambassadors who aren't coming have issues they think should be addressed pleeeease add them 01:10:11 <rbergeron> does anyone think that anyof these have dependencies on other tasks? 01:10:15 <rbergeron> yes, plz add them. 01:11:09 <rbergeron> inode0: what time did you say we'd be going to vrac, approximately? 01:11:17 <StabbyMc> Anything planned for those of us who are not attending IRL? 01:11:31 <inode0> 1-2pm 01:11:54 <inode0> with perhaps some time on one side or the other, probably 30 minutes maybe 01:12:58 <threethirty> StabbyMc: i atteneded the Marketing FAD remotely and mchua's irc description of what was going on and the conference call was pretty good (it sucked for me but that is a personal defect) 01:13:27 <StabbyMc> Anyway we could mabe do Video Skype? 01:13:27 * rbergeron nods 01:13:46 <StabbyMc> Or something of the same ilk? 01:13:57 <rbergeron> I think that is an option. 01:14:06 <rbergeron> If someone brings a spare laptop or the like, it would be fairly simple. 01:14:27 <rbergeron> inode0: you said the facility had extensive "flair" - is videoconferencing capabilities on that list? 01:14:40 * StabbyMc thinks max probably has a spiffy webex account one might use so that multiple people could participate if it's not just me. 01:14:58 <inode0> maybe 01:15:55 <rbergeron> inode0: would we be tacking lunch into that time period (12:30 - 2:30)? 01:16:17 <inode0> we can do eating whenever we want 01:16:22 <makfinsky> rbergeron: I will bring the thinkpad and the mini 9. 01:16:38 <rbergeron> cooool. 01:16:46 <rbergeron> cool to inode0 and mafinsky. :) 01:17:07 * nb is around 01:17:09 <nb> now 01:18:15 <makfinsky> Ok, have to drop off now. Battery is dying. 01:18:17 <StabbyMc> Is anyone else wanting to remote participate, or is it just me? 01:18:37 <inode0> ok, at this point we need to throw a rope around someone and nail down the detail everyone is waiting on 01:18:49 <rbergeron> which is... what, can we do it? :) 01:19:06 <inode0> ok, we'll spend some time working out remote participation options in the coming days 01:19:19 <inode0> rbergeron: budget commitment 01:19:51 * rbergeron nods 01:19:56 <StabbyMc> danke, though if it's just me, this is pretty easy to resolve I think. makfinsky and I could probable cobble something together. If it's a more substatial attendee list, then maybe it's worthy of more attention. 01:20:00 <rbergeron> inode0: hours were 10am - ? 01:20:11 * rbergeron would like to see more remote attendees, fo sho. 01:20:32 <StabbyMc> inode0: so are you looking for spevack approval or someone from commarch? 01:20:43 <inode0> Fri I think all day pretty much, Sat 10-5, Sun 10-we leave 01:20:50 * rbergeron nods 01:21:11 <inode0> 9am start friday is safe 01:21:28 <StabbyMc> inode0: remember I'm in Westford this week, so if there's someone local that needs stabbing 'er, gentle prodding, I can physically do that. 01:22:24 <inode0> I think that is good coverage of FAD preparation 01:22:36 <inode0> We'll try to settle the budget ASAP 01:23:06 <StabbyMc> OK, then I'll move us to the next topic... 01:23:07 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Events 01:23:28 <StabbyMc> The only event I know of is LFNW, but that's on the agenda later. 01:23:37 <StabbyMc> Any events need some TLC besides LFNW? 01:24:08 <rbergeron> have we squared away all the media requests for SELF? 01:24:12 <rbergeron> and/or LFNW? 01:24:25 <rbergeron> or is that part of the LFNW part of the meeting :) 01:24:39 <StabbyMc> lcafiero isn't here yet, so rbergeron, you'll probably have to ask that question again later. 01:24:44 <StabbyMc> ke4qqq: ? 01:25:52 <StabbyMc> I know ke4qqq had some media, but I don't remember how much. 01:26:02 <StabbyMc> and he's the owner of SELF. 01:27:31 <StabbyMc> Guess everyone is OK ... 01:27:42 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Budget Review 01:27:59 <StabbyMc> inode0: heard from DemonJester about shirts? 01:28:08 <inode0> yes! 01:28:21 <inode0> they should be shipping around the country this week 01:28:29 <StabbyMc> To the Regionals? 01:28:35 <inode0> right 01:28:45 <StabbyMc> Cool. Have you seen any proofs? 01:28:55 <inode0> a long time ago 01:29:02 <StabbyMc> What'd they look like? 01:30:28 <StabbyMc> Were they the I F Fedora shirts? 01:32:01 <StabbyMc> OK then ... 01:32:23 <StabbyMc> Since max isn't here, I don't know what other type of budget review we can have. 01:32:30 <StabbyMc> So ... 01:32:36 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Unfinished Business 01:32:57 <StabbyMc> Anyone have unfinished business from the last meetings? 01:34:08 <dmaxel> not me...this is my first meeting 01:34:13 <rbergeron> welcome! :) 01:34:31 <wmorri> I haven't been here in a few months so none for me either 01:34:43 <dmaxel> haha thank you! i've been trying to just observe for now 01:34:46 <StabbyMc> Then I'm going to open it up to open floor discussion for a bit (hoping for the arrival of lcafiero) 01:34:55 <crossbytes> we are all squared away for media at LFNW just waiting on event box should arrive tomorrow.. already have the Vertical Banners.. 01:34:57 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Open Floor 01:35:40 <StabbyMc> crossbytes: lcafierro said something to me before the meeting that made me think he had some stuff. 01:35:50 <StabbyMc> But he wasn't specific other than putting it on the agenda for the meeting. 01:36:21 * rbergeron nods 01:36:31 <StabbyMc> Any open floor items? 01:37:10 <wmorri> nope 01:37:20 <StabbyMc> inode0: the last stickers and clings were delivered to herlo today. 01:37:20 * lcafiero sneaks in the back and sits down 01:37:21 <dmaxel> i guess we do now 01:37:46 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: I was up here dancing and entertaining the crowd waiting on you ;-) 01:37:56 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Linux Fest Northwest update 01:37:58 <lcafiero> And doing a great job, everyone give him a hand 01:38:00 <inode0> sorry, I'm multitasking tonight 01:38:03 <lcafiero> .fas lcafiero 01:38:04 <zodbot> lcafiero: lcafiero 'Larry Cafiero' <larrycafiero@cruzio.com> 01:38:16 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: we're not doing roll call anymore. 01:38:20 * rbergeron grins 01:38:24 <StabbyMc> If you talk, you're listed in the meeting participants. 01:38:25 * mock grins too 01:38:28 <lcafiero> Well, that's just for the record StabbyMc 01:38:36 <dmaxel> ummm, did i have to do something for "roll call"? 01:38:41 <StabbyMc> nope. 01:38:52 <dmaxel> ok haha, remember, newbie here 01:38:53 <StabbyMc> please for the love of all things good, no. 01:39:14 <inode0> moderators need ops to kick rollcallers 01:39:20 <lcafiero> heh. 01:39:32 <lcafiero> should I talk about LFNW, or does crossbytes want to? 01:39:46 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: first rbergeron has a question. 01:39:49 <StabbyMc> for you. 01:39:50 <crossbytes> the floor is yours 01:40:01 <lcafiero> jump in if I miss anything, crossbytes 01:40:44 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: you got all the media you need for LFNW? 01:41:25 <lcafiero> Yes, and it's on its way to crossbytes 01:41:59 <lcafiero> As for items, we're probably just lacking shirts, but stickers, case badges and other stuff is in the box. 01:42:21 <lcafiero> I believe Southern_Gentlem had sent the vertical banners, so crossbytes should be good to go this weekend. 01:42:57 <lcafiero> rbergeron, you had a question? 01:43:01 <crossbytes> yes I have the banners you missed out on that.. 01:43:11 <rbergeron> my question is... i had a question? :) 01:43:14 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: it was about media, and she was slow, so I asked it. 01:43:19 <rbergeron> sorry. 01:43:20 <lcafiero> Ah, I see. 01:43:24 <rbergeron> :) 01:43:31 <StabbyMc> sorry rbergeron, you can have your thunder back now, I'm done with it. 01:43:42 <lcafiero> Good. I think we're all set. I won't be going :-( so crossbytes has the helm for LFNW. 01:44:04 <lcafiero> I think there are a couple of presentations by jesse keating and . . . do you remember which the other one is, crossbytes? 01:44:31 <crossbytes> Jeff is doing a presentation. 01:44:41 <lcafiero> Jeff Sandys, right. 01:44:45 <crossbytes> yes 01:45:37 <lcafiero> The event is this weekend at Bellingham Technical College and last year they had counted up about 1200 wrist bands that they handed out 01:46:32 <lcafiero> but most of those were repeats, so I think the attendance was around 800 for the weekend. They put on a good show up there. 01:46:43 <lcafiero> No FAD for us this time around at the event. 01:46:56 <lcafiero> Anything you want to add, crossbytes? 01:47:28 <crossbytes> no just next time I ma planning on doing a presentation.. and sorry that u can not make it 01:47:54 <lcafiero> a presentation would be great. yeah, I'm sorry I can't -- next to SCALE it's my favorite event of the year. 01:48:33 <lcafiero> Anyway, a report will follow after the event. Watch the Fedora Weekly News. 01:48:36 <lcafiero> eof for me. 01:49:07 * rbergeron would like to note quickly that she has a temp agenda up at https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Ambassador_Day_North_America_2010#Detailed_Agenda 01:49:30 <rbergeron> as far as FAD stuff goes - we need to figure out how / when we're going to eat on Friday with the VRAC things being kind of during lunchtime. 01:49:38 <lcafiero> I will talk a little about OSCON during open discussion. 01:49:41 <rbergeron> i left an hour to be shifted around. 01:50:01 <rbergeron> ooh 01:50:15 <StabbyMc> Ok, then lets shift the last 10 minutes into open floor. 01:50:30 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora Ambassadors NA Meeting - Open Floor 01:50:45 * rbergeron shifts her last two lines downwards into the open floor discussion 01:50:48 <rbergeron> sorry, long day. 01:50:48 <rbergeron> :) 01:50:58 <rbergeron> that is all. :) 01:51:03 * lcafiero raises hand 01:51:37 <rbergeron> umm 01:51:40 * rbergeron calls on lcafiero 01:51:41 * StabbyMc stabs lcafiero 01:51:41 <rbergeron> :) 01:51:46 <lcafiero> ouch 01:52:01 <rbergeron> yow! 01:52:07 <dmaxel> no violence please, i've already seen enough bad stuff today at school... 01:52:28 <lcafiero> While crossbytes is handling LFNW, I started the process for a dot-com booth at OSCON, and sent a proposal for a Birds of a Feather meeting. 01:52:52 <lcafiero> Hopefully we'll get space for an activity day as well. 01:53:05 <lcafiero> OSCON is July 19-23, I believe, in Portland, Oregon 01:53:43 <Actown> ^ looks right 01:54:22 <rbergeron> mmmmmm, pdx. 01:54:38 <crossbytes> yes dates are correct .. http://www.oscon.com/oscon2010 01:54:39 <lcafiero> Yup. 01:54:40 * rbergeron is going to try and get up there, since it's on this side of the country and all. 01:55:14 * lcafiero wants to recognize dmaxel -- one of my manatees and say "glad to see you made the meeting!" 01:55:15 <rbergeron> lcafiero: is teh BoF anything more specific than "Fedora" ? 01:55:30 * rbergeron salutes dmaxel :) 01:55:33 <lcafiero> No, not at the moment. It could be. 01:55:41 <rbergeron> okay. Just curious. 01:55:42 <inode0> we have 2 months to get ready for the summit as well, should start doing some planning for that 01:55:55 * rbergeron nods 01:56:12 <dmaxel> haha, thanks for recognizing me...i still have some catching up to do 01:56:28 <StabbyMc> speaking of summit, have we put up a page for it yet? 01:56:39 * StabbyMc registered today. 01:56:47 <rbergeron> redhat.com/summit? 01:57:20 <rbergeron> or are you referring tooooo..... 01:58:05 <rbergeron> well, we have a summit pg on the wiki, somewhere. 01:58:58 <rbergeron> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Summit_2010 01:59:09 <StabbyMc> Ok, t minus 1 minute. 01:59:28 <VileGent> inode0, that can be arranged 01:59:44 * lcafiero says "Boston again. Dang." 01:59:46 <StabbyMc> thank you rbergeron. 01:59:49 <rbergeron> but redhat's actual summit page is accessible via redhat.com/summit, iirc. 01:59:53 <StabbyMc> the wiki summit page was what I was looking for. 02:00:16 <rbergeron> i would have more details, but the boy just started playing world of warcraft and my intarwebz just grinded to a halt. 02:00:21 <rbergeron> :\ 02:00:29 <lcafiero> World of Borecraft? 02:00:45 <rbergeron> something like that. 02:00:55 * rbergeron was obsessed for approximately 4 weeks, 3 years ago. 02:01:01 <dmaxel> what world? :P 02:01:04 <StabbyMc> Ok, that's an hour, lets move the discussion over to #f-a ... 02:01:08 <rbergeron> who? what? :) 02:01:10 <StabbyMc> #endmeeting