#fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-03-16)

Meeting summary

1. init process (nirik, 19:00:17)
   
2. #353 provenpackager request for walters (nirik, 19:02:24)
   1. AGREED: walters approved for provenpackager (nirik, 19:05:07)
   
   
3. #352 Proposal: Fesco should have a procedure for removing members of fesco (nirik, 19:05:30)
   1. AGREED: the proposal passes with an amendent for the chair/current acting chair and with a standard impeachment rule that the cause for the vote must be made explicit. (pjones, 19:15:59)
   
   
4. #354 Desktop Spin size change should get a feature page (nirik, 19:18:36)
   1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DesktopLiveImageTarget (nirik, 19:19:57)
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/DesktopLiveImageTarget (Kevin_Kofler, 19:22:05)
   3. AGREED: This late feature is approved. Please finish up the page and add it to the right categories/lists. (nirik, 19:23:47)
   
   
5. #346 Drop LSB package (nirik, 19:24:17)
   1. AGREED: This proposal is rejected. (nirik, 19:27:48)
   2. AGREED: FESCo asks FPC investigate a guideline against direct dependencies on redhat-lsb (nirik, 19:29:57)
   3. ACTION: notting will ask them to look into it. (nirik, 19:30:11)
   
   
6. #347 tor is not compliant with Fedora guidelines (nirik, 19:30:20)
   1. AGREED: FESCo will ask tor maintainer to not use install_initd and will see if FPC can codify scriptlet output issues. (nirik, 19:39:25)
   2. ACTION: nirik will contact tor maintainer (nirik, 19:41:44)
   3. ACTION: ajax will talk to FPC about scriptlet output (nirik, 19:46:02)
   
   
7. #355 Let rel-eng untag embryo from F-13 because it breaks the chain and upgrade path (nirik, 19:46:16)
   1. AGREED: FESCo will allow releg to untag this package for now, revisit this next week if there are still issues. (nirik, 20:00:08)
   
   
8. #348 Fedora Packaging Committee items for ratification (2010-02-24) (nirik, 20:00:28)
   1. AGREED: Both guidelines changes are accepted. (nirik, 20:03:30)
   
   
9. Fedora Engineering Services Tickets/Updates. (nirik, 20:03:46)
   
10. #351 Create a policy for updates (nirik, 20:05:52)
    1. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/UpdatePolicy(draft)#notting.27s_Proposal (nirik, 20:06:42)
    2. AGREED: Section 1 of the proposal is approved. (nirik, 20:17:00)
    3. http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/branched-20100316/logs/critpath.log (nirik, 20:25:16)
    4. AGREED: Section 2 is Approved. Implementation details will need to be worked out for listing/noting important packages. (nirik, 20:29:17)
    5. AGREED: Section 3 will not be entirely removed. (nirik, 20:32:18)
    6. AGREED: Section 3 + KevinK's Amendemnt B passes (nirik, 20:52:27)
    7. None of this will take effect until implementation is made and announced and ready. (nirik, 20:53:28)
    
    
11. Open Floor (nirik, 20:59:07)
    1. FESCo members will be voiced starting next meeting to help avoid confusion. (nirik, 21:01:29)

Action items

1. notting will ask them to look into it.
2. nirik will contact tor maintainer
3. ajax will talk to FPC about scriptlet output

Action items, by person

1. ajax
   1. ajax will talk to FPC about scriptlet output
2. nirik
   1. nirik will contact tor maintainer
3. notting
   1. notting will ask them to look into it.

People present (lines said)

1. nirik (225)
2. Kevin_Kofler (110)
3. pjones (106)
4. mjg59 (81)
5. notting (80)
6. skvidal (78)
7. Oxf13 (76)
8. ajax (58)
9. cwickert (55)
10. dgilmore (47)
11. adamw (29)
12. zodbot (15)
13. thomasj_ (13)
14. wwoods (10)
15. abadger1999 (10)
16. gholms (6)
17. drago01 (6)
18. mmcgrath (4)
19. cassmodiah (3)
20. EvilBob (2)
21. Jeff_S (2)
22. gholms|mbp (1)
23. jlaska (1)