21:00:49 <poelcat> #startmeeting Fedora 13 Alpha Release Readiness meeting
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21:00:58 <poelcat> who is in the house?
21:01:03 * stickster lurking... on phone call
21:01:06 * Oxf13 
21:01:21 * poelcat hoping to make this fast and painless
21:01:28 <smooge> girlscouts and their cookies.. poor boyscouts only get popcorn
21:01:35 * sijis 
21:01:52 * nirik is here for fesco if there is anything we need to provide input on.
21:02:30 <poelcat> jlaska mchua ping
21:02:37 <poelcat> anyone from translations or websites?
21:02:45 <poelcat> mizmo: ping too
21:02:48 <stickster> sijis: is from websites
21:02:54 <poelcat> my appologies
21:03:10 <mmcgrath> but where is sijis
21:03:15 <mmcgrath> oh there we go, I missed the /me :)
21:03:39 <poelcat> adamw: around?
21:03:53 <poelcat> and someone from docs?
21:04:23 <adamw> poelcat: yeppers
21:04:36 <sijis> sorry, i should have mentioned that. thanks stickster
21:04:40 <stickster> poelcat: I can try to rep docs but I'm on this call
21:04:44 * poelcat gives one more minute and then we'll just start
21:04:45 * mchua here
21:05:17 * poelcat notes ke4qqq let me know he had a conflict
21:05:41 * threethirty is ke4qqq's replacemnet :)
21:05:48 <poelcat> cool
21:05:50 <poelcat> hi threethirty
21:05:57 <threethirty> howdy poelcat
21:06:02 <poelcat> #topic intro
21:06:21 <poelcat> this meeting is to make sure we all have what we need from each other for a smooth and successful Fedora 13 Alpha
21:06:31 <poelcat> we'll check in briefly with each group
21:06:34 <poelcat> and go from there
21:06:42 <poelcat> #topic QA status
21:06:54 <poelcat> adamw: anything we all need to know or help you need from other groups?
21:07:54 <adamw> not really
21:08:05 <adamw> we had our qa/releng/devel meeting yesterday and agreed that status was a go
21:08:10 <poelcat> adamw: did you guys figure out handling of the common bugs page?
21:08:19 <adamw> yeah, me and jlaska will split the load
21:08:26 <poelcat> cool
21:08:33 <adamw> that's what we usually do and we have it worked out, it's only an hour or two's work ultimately
21:08:48 <poelcat> okay
21:08:53 <poelcat> anyone have questions for QA ?
21:08:56 <adamw> beyond that there's nothing much more for QA to do on the release, we're signed off on it.
21:09:01 <poelcat> thank you!
21:09:11 * ricky is here, sorry
21:09:21 <poelcat> #topic Release Engineering
21:09:33 <poelcat> Oxf13: anything we all need to know or help you need from other groups?
21:09:45 <Oxf13> my end is going pretty well
21:10:02 <Oxf13> I just need to confirm that somebody is handling the release announcement and we're golden
21:10:11 <Froolap> Who captured the engineers?
21:10:25 <poelcat> stickster: do you know if docs is on the announcement?
21:10:43 <threethirty> a draft of the annoucment is up
21:10:52 <poelcat> threethirty: link?
21:11:05 <poelcat> anyone have questions for releng before we move on?
21:11:14 <threethirty> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_Alpha_release_announcement
21:11:21 <poelcat> threethirty: thank you
21:11:24 <threethirty> np
21:11:28 <poelcat> okay thanks Oxf13
21:11:33 <poelcat> #topic Infrastructure
21:11:50 <poelcat> mmcgrath: anything we all need to know or help you need from other groups?
21:12:03 <mmcgrath> we're all set
21:12:27 <poelcat> mmcgrath: you always say that and we always know it is true :)
21:12:36 <poelcat> any questions for infrastructure?
21:12:44 <mchua> nyet.
21:12:56 <poelcat> #topic Marketing
21:13:09 <poelcat> mchua: anything we all need to know or help you need from other groups?
21:13:15 <mchua> #info Marketing is looking good; our deliverables are coming in on time (well, the polishing of Talking Points is an ongoing process I'd hoped would be wrapped up by now, but... I'll get my rear in gear more on that).
21:13:20 <mchua> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing#Release_deliverables
21:13:22 <mchua> #info deliverables will continue to be filled in between alpha and beta, we hope to have them all done by beta so we can use the remaining time in this release cycle to help other teams work on their join processes (marketing "participation in the Fedora community," so to speak).
21:13:27 <mchua> #info Marketing: not blocking on anyone, nor do I think we are blocking anyone else. All set, as far as I'm concerned.
21:13:31 <mchua> poelcat: so, not really :)
21:14:03 <poelcat> mchua: thank you
21:14:06 <poelcat> any questions for marketing?
21:14:37 <poelcat> #topic Docs & Translation
21:14:53 <poelcat> anyone on that can represent either of these teams?
21:14:58 <poelcat> besides stickster
21:15:05 <poelcat> if not we'll move on
21:15:12 * poelcat waits 1 min
21:15:19 <adamw> uh, i'm on the docs mailing list...
21:15:37 * ricky notes that transifex 0.7.4 will hopefully be ready to go in after the infra freeze.
21:15:40 <adamw> i haven't seen anything about release notes
21:15:49 <ricky> Testing on staging has been fine so far
21:16:00 <adamw> there is a draft at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_13_Alpha_release_notes
21:16:06 <adamw> not sure what the status of that is, though
21:16:07 <poelcat> #info ricky notes that transifex 0.7.4 will hopefully be ready to go in after the infra freeze
21:16:20 <threethirty> that draft was done last night
21:16:38 <poelcat> threethirty: feeling good about having it finalized by Tuesday?
21:17:08 <Oxf13> in the past, was I still the one that sent the mail, or did somebody else send the mail?
21:17:12 * Oxf13 has a terrible memory
21:17:26 <threethirty> poelcat: as far as i know its ready to go, but this is my first release, so I would like someone who knows what they are doing to go through it
21:18:09 <poelcat> #action need to confirm completeness of releases notes
21:18:26 <poelcat> #action need to determine who will send release announcement out: Oxf13 or docs team
21:18:37 <poelcat> any other docs or translation discussion?
21:18:57 <poelcat> we're cruising!
21:19:01 <poelcat> #topic websites
21:19:11 <poelcat> sijis and ricky take it away
21:19:47 <sijis> the thing we need is the alpha banner information
21:20:04 <poelcat> #action websites needs banner from design team
21:20:07 <sijis> i havne't seen it come though and honestly, i'm not sure who it should be coming from
21:20:15 <poelcat> mizmo: around?
21:20:28 <poelcat> sijis: you should expect it from the design team
21:20:38 <sijis> poelcat: ok.
21:20:40 <poelcat> sijis: can you send an email to their list?
21:20:47 <ricky> Oxf13: Mind pinging sijis and me whenever the ISOs go up so we can update get-prerelease?
21:20:48 <sijis> yeah, i can do that..
21:21:01 <poelcat> #action sijis to email design team about banner
21:21:25 <poelcat> #action Oxf13 to let ricky and sijis know when the ISOs go up
21:21:28 <Oxf13> ricky: yeah.  Do we have a copy of the old page from last release, so I can check folder names and such?
21:21:45 * nirik is happy to seed torrents as well.
21:21:45 <ricky> Yes, it's still up (but not linked) at http://fedoraproject.org/get-fedora
21:22:19 <sijis> ricky: its redirecting to get-fedora
21:22:30 <ricky> Er, oops, good point
21:22:44 <ricky> I mean http://fedoraproject.org/get-prerelease.html
21:22:45 <Oxf13> I meant last alpha
21:22:47 <Oxf13> ah
21:22:56 <ricky> That's from the beta, but we can get you the page from the alpha if you need
21:24:21 <poelcat> okay to move on?
21:24:23 <sijis> we have to modify our git repo for the alpha too and modify the build script so it pull the correct branch
21:24:54 <sijis> that's all left to do for alpha.
21:25:03 <sijis> ricky: can you think of anything else?
21:25:09 <ricky> I think that's it, thanks
21:25:20 <poelcat> thanks ricky and sijis
21:25:28 <poelcat> #topic Design
21:25:35 <poelcat> it looks like mizmo isn't around
21:25:40 <poelcat> can anyone speak for design/
21:25:41 <poelcat> ?
21:25:48 <poelcat> looks like we covered the banner
21:25:54 <poelcat> is there anything else we need for Alpha?
21:27:00 <poelcat> okay. i guess not
21:27:07 <poelcat> #topic Ambassadors
21:27:20 <poelcat> threethirty: anything we need to know or can help the ambassadors with?
21:27:39 <threethirty> not that i am aware of, we seem go to go
21:27:43 <threethirty> good to go*
21:27:52 <poelcat> great
21:27:56 <poelcat> any questions for threethirty ?
21:28:57 <poelcat> thank you threethirty
21:29:02 <poelcat> #topic Open Discussion
21:29:11 <poelcat> anything we should discuss before closing?
21:29:24 <noriko> poelcat: can I say?
21:29:29 * nirik doesn't have anything.
21:29:44 <poelcat> noriko: hi
21:29:50 <noriko> hi :)
21:29:52 <poelcat> noriko: okay, so everything is good on the translation side?
21:30:06 <noriko> yp, but need some help
21:30:18 <noriko> =Need your help=
21:30:18 <noriko> 1) Tx0.7.4 needs to be rolled out
21:30:18 <noriko> When Infra freeze end?
21:30:18 <noriko> 2) Compose image for review,
21:30:18 <noriko> https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3420
21:30:19 <noriko> dodable?
21:30:45 <poelcat> we talked about #1 earlier and I believe it is moving forward
21:30:54 <poelcat> re: #2 Oxf13 ?
21:31:28 <Oxf13> #2 is going to be interesting
21:31:40 <Oxf13> we may have to do a one-off instead of using the nightly image
21:31:51 <Oxf13> A) to ensure the right packages are there, and B) to make use of updates-testing
21:31:53 <Oxf13> however...
21:32:07 <Oxf13> I'm curious if using the nightly compose + doing a packagekit update would be sufficient
21:32:44 <Oxf13> .... and I just got a call from my wife, I need to go pick up her and our son, bbiab
21:33:52 <noriko> poelcat, Oxf13, it is supposed to be composed 5-Mar, which is today my time and tomorrow your time...
21:34:03 * stickster off phone
21:34:10 <poelcat> noriko: i think we lost him
21:34:29 <poelcat> #action Oxf13 to update https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/3420 with status and go forward plan
21:34:42 <poelcat> any other topics before we say good bye?
21:35:08 <noriko> poelcat: we will have meeting log?
21:35:15 <poelcat> noriko: yes :)
21:35:19 <stickster> poelcat: Were you blocking on me for anything?
21:35:23 <poelcat> i will send it to logistics list
21:35:26 <noriko> sorry I missed first part as disconnected
21:35:26 <stickster> I apologize for being double booked
21:35:32 * gholms points anyone who's interested to #fedora-cloud for Cloud SIG meeting in progress
21:35:50 <noriko> poelcat: thank you!
21:35:53 <poelcat> noriko: stickster np
21:36:03 <poelcat> okay
21:36:08 <poelcat> thank you everyone
21:36:10 <poelcat> #endmeeting