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02:00:16 <VileGent> i always heard it was the chairpersons watch is to one that matters
02:00:20 <lcafiero> .fas lcafiero
02:00:21 <zodbot> lcafiero: lcafiero 'Larry Cafiero' <larrycafiero@cruzio.com>
02:00:21 <jds2001> .fas jstanley
02:00:22 <PhrkOnLsh> .fas rrix
02:00:24 <zodbot> jds2001: jstanley 'Jon Stanley' <jonstanley@gmail.com>
02:00:27 <zodbot> PhrkOnLsh: rrix 'Ryan Rix' <phrkonaleash@gmail.com>
02:00:30 <Grantbow__> .fas grantbow
02:00:30 <VileGent> .fasinfo jbwillia
02:00:33 <zodbot> Grantbow__: grantbow 'Grant Bowman' <grantbow@gmail.com>
02:00:34 <StabbyMc> #topic Fedora NA Ambassador meeting 11/3
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02:00:37 <Ac-town> .fasinfo actown
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02:00:44 <StabbyMc> .fas smcbrien
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02:00:49 <zodbot> Ac-town: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fedora sysadmin-test blogadmin
02:00:52 <zodbot> Ac-town: Unapproved Groups: sysadmin ambassadors
02:00:55 <zodbot> StabbyMc: smcbrien '' <scott@mcbrien.net>
02:01:05 <lcafiero> Wow, zod handled that well
02:01:05 <StabbyMc> Anyone else for roll call?
02:01:10 <PhrkOnLsh> poor zod :)
02:01:32 <StabbyMc> #topic NA Events
02:01:45 <StabbyMc> Ok lcafiero you have the floor
02:01:48 * lcafiero raises hand
02:01:51 <lcafiero> Thanks, StabbyMc
02:02:16 <lcafiero> I just wanted to bring up to beat the holiday rush that SCaLE is being held on Feb. 19-21 in Los Angeles.
02:02:46 <PhrkOnLsh> lcafiero: what is the deadline to register?
02:02:51 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: what kind of events are at SCaLE?
02:02:54 <lcafiero> The Linux Dairy Council, which I'll talk about more later, wants to do a "megabooth" which SCaLE thinks would be OK
02:03:17 <lcafiero> SCaLE is the Southern California Linux Expo -- it's sort of the first big show of the year.
02:03:31 <lcafiero> So there's a booth and talks and we normally have a FAD
02:03:40 <lcafiero> Which we'll probably have this year as well.
02:04:10 * jds2001 wants to get out there again.....
02:04:29 <lcafiero> The idea that's being bounced around is having one large booth/one large area for all distros and desktops to be together.
02:04:46 <lcafiero> So I don't know how that affects budget, but I will be asking for sponsorship again.
02:04:53 <lcafiero> I just wanted to put this on the radar.
02:05:08 * nb here
02:05:10 <lcafiero> Unless there are questions, I can put more information on the mailing list
02:05:11 <PhrkOnLsh> i'm confused by that... It's a Linux expo... and they want to group all the linuxen into one big group?
02:05:14 * VileGent wants to go, and will if finances allows
02:05:34 * PhrkOnLsh will go if rents approve. I'll chill in the Fedora booth :)
02:05:38 <VileGent> PhrkOnLsh,  sounds like what most east coast cons
02:05:41 <lcafiero> Not that confusing, PhrkOnLsh -- in the past, we were on one end of the floor, OpenSUSE on another, Ubuntu on even another.
02:05:58 <jds2001> and KDE way out where
02:06:04 <jds2001> etc etc
02:06:17 <lcafiero> The megabooth idea, floated by Joe Brockmeier of OpenSUSE, would have all the distros and DEs together
02:06:26 <lcafiero> DE = Desktop Environment
02:06:32 <PhrkOnLsh> ahh
02:06:46 <PhrkOnLsh> well, i thought it meant they'd be represented as one :)
02:06:49 <lcafiero> And all the other exhibitors wherever they may fall on the floor map.
02:06:51 <PhrkOnLsh> and I omgwtfbbq'd
02:06:57 <lcafiero> Heh.
02:07:01 <jds2001> oh, no :)
02:07:06 <jds2001> but we do all get along :)
02:07:24 <PhrkOnLsh> I'll bring toiler paper ;) we can TP the *buntus ;)
02:07:29 <PhrkOnLsh> </joking>
02:07:52 <StabbyMc> Any other events need mentioning?
02:07:52 <lcafiero> But I wanted to just bring everyone up to speed on this.
02:08:09 * jds2001 needs to do blog post on CPOSC
02:08:11 * jds2001 fails
02:08:32 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: We probably need to add this as a recurring event once a month, maybe more when it looms closer.
02:08:47 <lcafiero> Got it, StabbyMc (makes a note)
02:09:05 <StabbyMc> jds2001: anything good for CPOSC?
02:09:08 <VileGent> hopefully its on the event list
02:09:49 <jds2001> StabbyMc: well attended, excellent venue this year, got a lot of compliments on the booth
02:09:58 <jds2001> the vertical banners were a big hit :)
02:10:04 <jds2001> the ubuntu folks loved em
02:10:07 <lcafiero> +1 big hit at UTOSC too.
02:10:12 <StabbyMc> jds2001: what kind of traffic did you get?
02:10:13 <lcafiero> (sorry)
02:10:48 <StabbyMc> nm, I'll wait for the report ;-)
02:10:50 <jds2001> StabbyMc: reasonable
02:10:52 <StabbyMc> Other events?
02:10:52 <jds2001> sorry
02:11:26 <StabbyMc> Ok, then lets shift gears.
02:11:26 <PhrkOnLsh> ABLEconf was weekend before last. I gve out a ton of media.
02:11:32 <StabbyMc> oops.
02:11:33 <PhrkOnLsh> But I already blagged about it.
02:11:36 <PhrkOnLsh> move along :)
02:11:41 <StabbyMc> :-)
02:11:47 <StabbyMc> #topic NA Budget
02:12:00 <StabbyMc> So I had an interesting thing come up this week RE Budget.
02:12:14 <StabbyMc> I was hoping some of the more experienced ambassadors could advise.
02:12:29 <StabbyMc> I have a friend who switched his company over to all Fedora thinclients.
02:12:43 <StabbyMc> He'd like to donate the savings from the conversion to us.
02:13:04 <StabbyMc> But since our budget and whatnot is handled by RH, and he doesn't want to write a check to RH ...
02:13:15 <StabbyMc> So inode0 suggested that he buy us stuff.
02:13:27 <VileGent> +1
02:13:40 <StabbyMc> Someone else suggested that they use that money to pay an employee for some hours to donate to an OSS project.
02:14:03 <VileGent> +1 as well
02:14:04 <lcafiero> Could you tell us how much we're talking about here?
02:14:07 <PhrkOnLsh> alright folks I'm out, sorry for splitting so early.
02:14:11 <StabbyMc> I think the first option, where he buys us stuff is more likely, though he's only going to want to do one transaction.
02:14:19 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: we haven't gotten that far.
02:14:22 <lcafiero> Just curious, but if you can't that's okay.
02:14:22 <Ac-town> +1 for the oss project
02:14:25 <lcafiero> Ah, got it.
02:14:39 <StabbyMc> I'm still trying to figure out the mechanics of how one could donate to Fedora.
02:14:59 <inode0> There are no mechanics for giving cash to Fedora in NA
02:15:01 <lcafiero> I don't know if you can, StabbyMc
02:15:06 <lcafiero> (what inode0 said)
02:15:10 <VileGent> StabbyMc,  i say buy some swag
02:15:17 <StabbyMc> Well, not by writing a check, no.
02:15:20 <inode0> You can give cash the non-profit in EMEA
02:15:32 <StabbyMc> Ok.
02:15:37 <jds2001> but that will be locked away in EMEA
02:15:54 <inode0> not really, they can spend it how they see fit
02:15:57 * nb wonders why not to make a nonprofit in NA
02:16:06 <jds2001> lots of reasons.
02:16:08 <inode0> don't go there nb :)
02:16:16 <StabbyMc> I have a feeling that he'd be OK with buying swag, but I think he's going to want to keep it to one transaction, so once i know how much we're talking about, I can advise more.
02:16:32 <jds2001> that's likely the best
02:16:38 <inode0> actually there is ongoing work to that end, but let's discuss it later
02:16:45 <jds2001> and we'd like to give his company credit somehow, too.
02:16:48 <StabbyMc> But I also thought this was a topic that would be good to just throw out there so some newer ambassadors could benefit from the discussion as welll.
02:16:52 <lcafiero> Also, putting an employee on an OSS project would be good, too.
02:17:15 <StabbyMc> jds2001: I don't think you want to do that, they're  ... um ... Adult Themed.
02:17:27 <jds2001> ok, then maybe not :)
02:17:56 <StabbyMc> Ok, so I'll follow up on that, and see what I can nail down.
02:18:03 <lcafiero> This has some promotional possibilities for all involved -- media-wise.
02:18:04 <inode0> maybe they can work a deal with gnaughty?
02:18:13 <jds2001> but do let me know who they are so I can utilize their products :D
02:18:20 <StabbyMc> lol
02:18:29 <StabbyMc> Anyone else have any Budget items?
02:18:43 <inode0> don't you?
02:18:51 <StabbyMc> I don't know, do I?
02:19:02 <inode0> swag research?
02:19:21 <StabbyMc> inode0: I need more to jog my slow mind.
02:19:28 <VileGent> well i was looking into usb keys and they are still way too expensive  $9.20 each in 500 quanities
02:19:42 <inode0> shirts, clings, etc
02:19:57 <StabbyMc> inode0: ah, I have that in the "Task List Review" section!
02:20:04 <VileGent> 1gb or 2gb size same price
02:20:19 * inode0 stops trying to run the meeting, slaps his own fingers
02:20:25 <StabbyMc> lol
02:20:36 <Grantbow__> I've also noticed some artificial limits on downward pricing of USB sticks
02:20:37 <lcafiero> No, let me do that for you, inode0
02:21:03 <VileGent> swag wise what do we have the most of
02:21:30 <StabbyMc> #topic Swag and Task List Review
02:21:35 <inode0> sticker sheets and tattoos
02:21:36 <VileGent> or what do we need i guess is the best question
02:21:37 * jds2001 has stuff left over from CPOSC, but not shirts.
02:22:06 <StabbyMc> BTW, how much do we pay per piece for the splatter shirts?
02:22:20 * StabbyMc is curious.
02:22:23 <inode0> about $6
02:22:34 * jds2001 has tattoos (which i didnt even realize were in the bag til tmz pointed it out), pens, stickers, etc.
02:23:18 <inode0> the old white shirts were about $3.75
02:23:25 <StabbyMc> So the regional distribution folks, we running low on anything in particular?
02:23:34 <inode0> most everything
02:23:44 <lcafiero> Usually everything.
02:24:01 * jds2001 will take inventory and get back with what I've got that's sitting in my apartment and doing nothing productive.
02:24:04 <StabbyMc> So is there anything so awesome that we want to do a replenishment order instead of ordering new items?
02:24:17 <lcafiero> I left all the stuff for the West Coast in the event box, so that's all I have, and I think herlo still has it.
02:24:23 <inode0> what new items are under consideration?
02:24:41 <lcafiero> If I remember correctly, we're still good with tattoos, pens and case badges
02:24:50 <StabbyMc> PhrkOnLsh has been working on stressballs, but is just starting the research to getting quotes.
02:24:59 * lcafiero has been very stingy with case badges.
02:25:02 <StabbyMc> I
02:25:10 <StabbyMc> I've been working on Window Clings
02:25:13 * inode0 applauds lcafiero
02:25:23 <StabbyMc> I think those are the only new items in the pipeline.
02:25:25 <Ac-town> window clings +1
02:25:42 <StabbyMc> Ok, I wanted to talk a little about those.
02:25:43 <inode0> we have probably 1K pens floating about
02:26:05 <StabbyMc> So I got some samples and the window clings I got are only cling-y on one side.
02:26:24 <StabbyMc> Plus they only cling to smooth surfaces, so like my IBM laptop, no love.
02:26:29 <StabbyMc> Windows they work like champs.
02:26:53 <nb> what is the cost on them?
02:26:58 <nb> and how big?
02:26:58 <StabbyMc> But for about the same money as clings we can get nice vynl stickers like what they have in EMEA
02:27:41 <VileGent> which vinyl sticker are you talking about
02:27:53 <inode0> nice stickers aren't all that expensive, just need someone to line them up and we'd buy some
02:27:56 <StabbyMc> .277 cents per piece if we order 2500.
02:28:07 <StabbyMc> so like $700
02:28:17 <StabbyMc> For clings
02:28:44 <inode0> half that amount I'd sign off on without thinking about it
02:29:00 <inode0> 1250 of those seems like quite a lot to me
02:29:20 <jds2001> price/piece probably goes up though
02:29:25 <inode0> not everyone would want to decorate their cars and houses with them
02:29:35 <inode0> 1000 is a lot
02:29:45 <inode0> get my point :)
02:29:49 <StabbyMc> inode0: 530 for 750 of them.
02:30:17 <VileGent> but they dont eat, and you dont have to change their diaper
02:30:18 <inode0> I'd have to think on that
02:30:23 <StabbyMc> But I've been thinking that vynl stickers would appeal to a larger audience.
02:30:34 <jds2001> yeah, they would
02:30:42 <inode0> StabbyMc: they would, but don't think either/or
02:30:45 <VileGent> depends on the sticker you are refering to
02:30:46 <jds2001> so is pricing similar on those?
02:31:13 <StabbyMc> jds2001: I looked only briefly at it, but I seem to remember that it was similar.
02:31:42 <VileGent> StabbyMc,  are you referring to the 3" voice sticker
02:31:43 <StabbyMc> VileGent: EMEA has a sticker that's vynl of the Finity.
02:31:55 <inode0> we can get sticker sheets like BF sells with a 3" bubble and 6 case badge style stickers for under 50 cents a sheet iirc
02:32:13 <StabbyMc> Theirs is diecut, which makes it more pricey.  I'd want to do a square and if someone wanted just the finity they could cut it themselves.
02:32:18 <Grantbow__> is a url available to see the sticker?
02:32:38 * inode0 would want them pre-cut
02:32:46 <StabbyMc> I haven't done a lot of research on the sticker, so I don't have mockups or pricing and whatnot.
02:33:03 <StabbyMc> I'm just looking at the cling and comparing that with the desires of VileGent and feeling that it falls far short.
02:33:17 <inode0> http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=139
02:33:26 <jds2001> inode0: pre-cut as in not a sheet?
02:33:32 <jds2001> on a roll or something?
02:33:36 <inode0> crappy image but those are nice stickers and we can do something similar for a reasonable cost
02:33:56 <inode0> jds2001: no, a sheet but the stickers peel off, you don't need to cut anything
02:34:07 <StabbyMc> jds2001: more that when you peel them off the back, they're a shape, rather than square.
02:34:12 <jds2001> oh, ic
02:34:14 <Grantbow__> damn it - why don't redhat pages load in Chromium?
02:34:26 <jds2001> that's a brandfuel page, not a RHT one :)
02:34:28 <VileGent> http://redhat.brandfuelstores.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=37_52
02:34:41 <StabbyMc> inode0: we can look at the numbers, but I have a feeling that die cut is going to be more expensive.
02:34:49 <VileGent> seems to be the one most people perfer
02:35:13 <inode0> we had a vendor lined up for those at one point
02:35:17 <StabbyMc> VileGent: yes something like that, but not $2 per piece ;-)_
02:35:53 <inode0> the bottom line is that everyone likes nice stickers
02:36:10 <inode0> so when someone lines them up we'll do everything we can to fund them
02:36:10 <StabbyMc> But my larger question is ditch the clings and start looking at stickers?  Keep the clings and not stickers?  Or keep clings and also look at stickers?
02:37:01 * inode0 votes for both but would like a smaller amount of clings for less money which he might not get
02:37:14 <nb> is there any of our current supplies that we need to replenish?
02:37:38 <inode0> nb: yes but that is always the case
02:37:39 <StabbyMc> inode0: the pricing looks really good at 2500+, less than 1000 I think it'll be difficult to get a good number vs. what we're paying for them.
02:37:52 <inode0> if you buy 300 shirts they will go right out the door
02:38:06 <nb> yeah
02:38:31 <inode0> we are almost always out of shirts because we can't pace ourselves :)
02:38:58 <jds2001> we should make ppl do something for them
02:39:07 <jds2001> sign up in FAS == shirt
02:39:16 <jds2001> they'd go a lot slower at that rate.
02:39:28 <VileGent> jds2001,  that works at cons we have network access
02:39:51 <VileGent> Ohio Linuxfest is not the case as you know
02:39:57 <jds2001> yeah :(
02:40:15 * jds2001 keeps hoping beyond hope that they'll fix that
02:40:31 <StabbyMc> So my other SWAG item is button-ups.  I'm waiting on a proof from the vendor.
02:40:35 <jds2001> but internet there is prohibitively expensive aiui
02:40:41 <inode0> I'm always for expanding our inventory of new things
02:40:48 <StabbyMc> They'll be about $30 + shipping.
02:40:54 <inode0> Replacing old things is easier but a bit boring
02:41:04 <jds2001> not all that bad....
02:41:28 <StabbyMc> Our first run is white shirts I think.  That's the demo shirt I've ordered.
02:41:37 <VileGent> inode0,  case badges and stickers are always very popular
02:41:43 <StabbyMc> With the virtical logo applied to the left chest.
02:42:31 <StabbyMc> Anyone who wants more details can hit me up in fedora-ambassadors post-meeting.
02:42:43 <inode0> they look nice on the web
02:42:52 <nb> is NA making a polo order any time soon?
02:43:07 <inode0> and they won't be ambassador specific, for anyone in Fedora
02:43:37 <inode0> nb: someone on the list needs to poke pcalarco
02:43:42 <nb> ok
02:44:24 <StabbyMc> So I feel like I butted in on a convo about replenishment orders.
02:44:46 <StabbyMc> Are we spending money on replenishment?
02:44:51 <inode0> someone can suggest a specific thing for swag if they would like to
02:44:59 <StabbyMc> I don't know that I'll have my stuff ready to be paid by end of quarter.
02:45:15 <jds2001> I like my Novell penguin
02:45:21 <jds2001> but they're probably pretty expensive
02:45:36 <inode0> I'm not sure we have any money to spend, will run whatever we want up the flagpole
02:46:17 <inode0> this Q ends in 2 weeks more or less
02:46:22 <lcafiero> !
02:46:35 <StabbyMc> If I had to vote, I'd say Splatter Tees and case badges.
02:46:44 <inode0> spevack: can you comment? Do we have something that needs acting on before the end of the quarter?
02:46:55 <Grantbow__> F12 at the end of the quarter, nice
02:47:07 <inode0> StabbyMc: you just said $3,000 - I don't see that happening in the short term
02:47:20 <lcafiero> I was going to ask about F12 media -- has that been brought up?
02:47:31 <jds2001> youre a mindreader lcafiero :)
02:47:35 <inode0> we are buying it :)
02:47:39 <jds2001> :)
02:47:44 <inode0> I hope a little less of it
02:47:47 <StabbyMc> It's going to hit Q4's budget though, right?
02:47:47 <lcafiero> but the money has been budgeted and set aside.
02:47:53 <lcafiero> Less would be OK, I think.
02:47:53 <jds2001> from whom, how much does it cost, is it budgeted?
02:48:06 <inode0> yes, it is taken care of
02:48:10 <lcafiero> Whew.
02:48:22 <lcafiero> thanks, inode0
02:48:32 <inode0> I think it costs around $4,000
02:49:05 <Grantbow__> I need to check on the DIY sleeve, not sure how far long that is.
02:49:15 <nb> DIY sleeve?
02:49:18 <inode0> that is a good idea
02:49:36 <Grantbow__> it was a discussion on the artwork mail list - a one pager to fold as a CD sleeve
02:49:50 <Grantbow__> I'll report back next time
02:50:52 <StabbyMc> Ok, if no objections I'll put us to open floor?
02:51:04 * inode0 needs to step aside for 5 minutes, will be back to talk about FreeMedia asap
02:51:24 <StabbyMc> #topic Open Floor
02:51:34 <StabbyMc> Any topics for open floor?
02:51:48 <StabbyMc> (besides inode0 who we're waiting for)
02:54:31 <lcafiero> Yes.
02:54:34 <lcafiero> Wait a minute
02:54:45 <lcafiero> I had something earlier.
02:54:54 <lcafiero> I'll yield until I can think of what it is.
02:55:01 * lcafiero reminds everyone that age is cruel
02:55:28 * inode0 is back
02:56:12 <inode0> shall I go on FreeMedia?
02:56:16 <StabbyMc> yep
02:56:54 <inode0> I'm frustrated as are others with one aspect of the way things are working currently and would like to investigate making a change
02:57:14 <inode0> the problem: the request form is only open for 2 or 3 days a month
02:57:37 <inode0> the reason: that is long enough to overwhelm some regions with so many requests they can't fill them
02:58:01 <inode0> the problem for NA: we only get 20 requests per month this way and we could fill many more
02:58:26 <inode0> my goal: have the NA request form open all the time
02:58:34 <nb> i have some to add when you get done inode0
02:58:41 <jds2001> have you talked to susmit about it?
02:58:48 <jds2001> maybe he could do that.
02:59:15 <inode0> I just opened an infra ticket requesting some solution to this problem today
02:59:20 <nb> jds2001, it is not really possible the way it is currently set up to block some regions and allow others
02:59:28 <nb> my idea is to make fedorahosted.org/freemedia-na
02:59:34 * inode0 yields to nb
02:59:36 <nb> and have fedoraproject.org/freemedia/na-form.html or something
03:00:00 <nb> it would use the same "freemedia" group in FAS
03:00:15 <jds2001> yeah, that was a hack to do
03:00:24 * jds2001 did the web side of that
03:00:30 <jds2001> i'd rather not perpetuate it
03:00:51 <jds2001> and it's not perfect, either
03:00:53 <nb> or link people to new ticket in trac and tell them to make their request tehre?
03:01:13 <jds2001> can a non-authenticated person make a new ticket in trac?
03:01:17 <inode0> mainly I just don't want one region of the world to block the rest of the world in their efforts to spread Fedora through this program
03:01:22 <nb> jds2001, they do now with the freemedia form
03:01:24 <jds2001> if so, that'd be a solution
03:01:28 <nb> it runs as an unauthenticated user
03:01:42 <jds2001> oh, i didnt know if it did or ntop
03:01:49 <nb> so i assume they could use the normal interface (as long as unauthenticated has TICKET_CREATE)
03:01:55 <jds2001> with NA, we dont have to worry so much about the language thing
03:01:57 <nb> i looked at the code a little today
03:03:08 <nb> do we have mexico and canada people that can take those tickets?
03:03:13 <nb> or people from USA that will ship there?
03:03:23 <inode0> canadians handle canada nowq
03:03:25 <lcafiero> Isn't mexico part of latam
03:03:26 * jds2001 just looked and anonymous doesnt have TICKET_CREATE
03:03:59 <inode0> and yes, mexico is not part of NA in this respect
03:04:00 <nb> jds2001, they remove it when the form closes
03:04:09 <jds2001> oh
03:04:59 * lcafiero thinks it should be, geographically speaking, but probably functions better in latam.
03:05:35 <inode0> my argument holds for them too and everyone else who wants to keep their form open
03:06:24 <inode0> for several months I didn't participate because there were no unfilled NA requests
03:07:28 <inode0> probably we should raise the idea on the FreeMedia list for everyone's consideration
03:07:52 <inode0> I just wanted to let FAmNA know I kicked off the disccussion and get feedback from you first
03:09:42 <StabbyMc> Other open floor?
03:09:53 <lcafiero> Yes, the Linux Dairy Council (that was it)
03:10:02 <StabbyMc> lcafiero: you pull that item out of the netheregions of you mind?
03:10:13 <lcafiero> Yeah, I'm lactose intolerant :-)
03:10:25 <StabbyMc> So noted.
03:11:04 <StabbyMc> Ok it's getting to be about that time, any other items?
03:11:08 <lcafiero> But anyway, earlier this year (I think) Paul Frields and Joe Brockmeier and others talked about forming a sort of distro consortium around promoting desktop Linux
03:11:32 <lcafiero> Anyway, herlo and I were at the first irc meeting a few days ago and it looks like it's shaping up to be an interesting group.
03:11:44 <Grantbow__> url?
03:12:01 <lcafiero> So I wanted to mention that it's getting started after being dormant for a better part of the year.
03:12:27 <lcafiero> IRC = #linuxdairy in freenode and url = http://groups.google.com/group/linux-dairy-council
03:12:35 <lcafiero> It's a mailing list at the moment.
03:12:37 <Grantbow__> ty
03:12:50 <lcafiero> Sort of a committee of correspondence.
03:13:04 <lcafiero> That's all -- I'll be posting updates, as warranted, on the mailing list.
03:13:11 <StabbyMc> Cool.
03:13:12 * inode0 cringes at the connection with the dairy council every time he sees it
03:13:39 * StabbyMc gets ready to call the meeting to a close unless someone stops me.
03:14:01 <lcafiero> Yeah, we've had this discussion, inode0 -- it's the idea of a consortium moreso than anything, and the name is not etched in stone
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03:14:58 <StabbyMc> #endmeeting