20:00:17 <mmcgrath> #startmeeting Infrastructure
20:00:17 <zodbot> Meeting started Thu Oct 29 20:00:17 2009 UTC.  The chair is mmcgrath. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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20:00:25 <mmcgrath> Who's here?
20:00:27 * ricky 
20:00:34 * a-k is
20:00:37 * jcollie .
20:00:45 * skvidal is around
20:00:49 <smooge> here
20:01:04 <fchiulli> fchiulli is
20:01:06 <smooge> how can I help
20:01:36 <mmcgrath> I don't see any ticket items so we'll just get started
20:01:56 <mmcgrath> I'd like to keep this meeting fairly short because smooge and I (and whoever else has free time right now) will be busy doing 5.3 -> 5.4 updates.
20:02:17 <mmcgrath> #topic Search Engine
20:02:22 <mmcgrath> a-k: take it, any updates here?
20:02:31 <smooge> yum clean metadata; yum -y update ;  rkhunter something or another
20:02:35 <a-k> Mostly huzaifas and I are just working through the list of candidates.  2 down, 8 to go, so far.
20:02:45 <a-k> We're going to put what we find into a table format sometime next week, basically to make it easier for quantitative comparison.
20:02:53 * dgilmore is here
20:02:53 <mmcgrath> <nod>
20:03:01 * mdomsch is here
20:03:10 * abadger1999 is here
20:03:11 <a-k> I'm still excluding the Java ones.  If we were to include Java, GCJ only, not Sun/IBM/BEA, true?
20:03:44 <dgilmore> a-k: if it works with openjdk it is ok
20:03:44 <mmcgrath> a-k: correct
20:03:52 <mmcgrath> is there a difference between gcj and openjdk
20:03:55 * mmcgrath doesn't even know
20:04:04 <a-k> OK.  That's what I figured.  That's all I have.
20:04:34 <mmcgrath> Cool
20:04:42 <mmcgrath> #topic Rawhide network drops
20:04:55 <mmcgrath> an update to the latest kernel has fixed this
20:05:01 <mmcgrath> or seems to have, we'll keep an eye on it.
20:05:07 <mmcgrath> #topic Fedora Talk
20:05:15 <mmcgrath> jcollie: want to take this?  Whats done, whats left, when will we be ready for re-launch?
20:05:39 <J5> moksha built successfully, not sure if Fedora Community will since it requires moksha
20:05:44 <jcollie> mostly what is left is some testing, plus a pretty front end
20:06:22 <jcollie> there are commands on asterisk2 to start/stop streaming and recording but you need to be in sysadmin-tools for that
20:06:35 <J5> mmcgrath: how do I deal with fedora communities build requirement for moksha?
20:07:07 <jcollie> plus we need to write down the process for transferring recordings to alt
20:07:07 <mmcgrath> J5: see #fedora-admin
20:07:57 <jcollie> and implement that process too i guess :)
20:08:02 <mmcgrath> <nod>
20:08:25 <mmcgrath> jcollie: so things are on the up and up?
20:08:30 <jcollie> ianweller is supposed to be working on a nicer web front end
20:08:47 * sijis is here late.
20:08:47 <mmcgrath> <nod>
20:08:47 <jcollie> yep all the basics should be working
20:08:52 <mmcgrath> excellent.
20:08:52 <mmcgrath> anything else on that?
20:09:06 <jcollie> you can test it out by using asterisk2.fp.o instead of talk.fp.o in your sip client
20:09:41 <mmcgrath> ah, very cool.
20:09:46 <jcollie> i think that's about it unless anyone has questions
20:09:51 <mmcgrath> any questions?
20:10:28 <mmcgrath> alrighty
20:10:28 <jcollie> oh yeah we need to review the updated docs and then make them live
20:10:39 <mmcgrath> yeah that's a good bonus too
20:10:50 <mmcgrath> #topic qpid is up and running in staging
20:10:58 <mmcgrath> You can test it with http://mmcgrath.fedorapeople.org/topic_subscriber.py
20:11:18 <mmcgrath> J5: do your new FC and moksha have additional uses for the message bus?
20:12:46 <J5> mmcgrath: it just displays the time ping
20:13:02 <J5> there is a demo tab with the timeping app
20:13:14 <mmcgrath> cool
20:13:36 <mmcgrath> If anyone else has use cases for the now brand new not in production message bus, send it to the list!
20:13:45 <mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions or comments on that?
20:14:47 <mmcgrath> alrighty
20:14:51 <mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor
20:14:52 <J5> We should get together at FUDCon to discuss format for the payloads (e.g. are we going to use QMF or spin our own message format).  I'm putting some stuff together for that
20:15:43 <mmcgrath> J5: <nod> we do need to set up a time for that.
20:16:02 <mdomsch> mmcgrath, I'd love to see messages when content is pushed to the master mirrors by rel-eng
20:16:08 <mdomsch> another when the netapps are back in sync
20:16:21 <mdomsch> :-)
20:16:21 <mmcgrath> <nod>
20:18:11 <J5> so, usecases and message formats for those usecases
20:18:33 <mmcgrath> sounds good to me.
20:18:47 <mmcgrath> Does anyone have anything else they'd like to discuss?
20:18:55 <mmcgrath> If not we'll close a bit early so we can get ready for our updates
20:19:08 <J5> mdomsch: can you start a list on wiki https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Messaging_SIG ?
20:19:30 <mdomsch> J5, sure
20:19:34 <J5> cool
20:20:00 <mmcgrath> alrighty, with that we'll close the meeting
20:20:04 <mmcgrath> #stopmeeting
20:20:21 <mmcgrath> #meetingstop
20:20:23 <ricky> (#endmeeting, perhaps)
20:20:26 <mmcgrath> f'ing end
20:20:28 <mmcgrath> #endmeeting