#fedora-meeting: Fedora QA Meeting

Meeting summary

1. gathering in the lobby (jlaska, 15:58:52)
   
2. Previous meeting follow-up (jlaska, 16:03:18)
   1. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_activity.cgi?id=507678 (jlaska, 16:04:51)
   2. "36 issues were marked as beta blockers prior to freeze, 16 after the freeze." -adamw (jlaska, 16:05:23)
   3. jlaska manually inspecting F12Beta change history to see if any trends / problems exist in how we escalate blocker bugs (jlaska, 16:08:28)
   4. autoqa-devel mailing list has been requested - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1733 (jlaska, 16:10:27)
   5. HELP: New mailing list requested for autoqa development discussion - see https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1733 (jlaska, 16:11:45)
   
   
3. Beta test review (jlaska, 16:12:47)
   1. https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-test-list/2009-October/msg00303.html (jlaska, 16:13:21)
   2. Fedora 12 Beta Install test matrix - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_12_Beta_RC2_Install (jlaska, 16:15:21)
   3. Southern_Gentlem directed the team towards a different test matrix - http://spins.fedoraunity.org/Members/Southern_Gentleman/Fedora%2012%20%20beta%20TestMatrix (jlaska, 16:16:39)
   4. lili asked if reducing the number of test cases would reduce quality (jlaska, 16:19:00)
   5. adam suggests creating links to a sorted list of "What's remaining for testing" in lili's emails (jlaska, 16:26:22)
   6. Possible improvement - integration between lili and Southern_Gentlem's test matrices (jlaska, 16:28:35)
   7. Possible improvement - including a link to "Remaining testing" when sending emails (jlaska, 16:28:53)
   8. Southern_Gentlem suggests having multiple testers provides better hardware diversity in testing (jlaska, 16:31:26)
   9. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=528537 (kparal, 16:32:28)
   
   
4. AutoQA Updates from wwoods and kparal (jlaska, 16:36:50)
   1. Instead of patching autotest to include a link back to test results, plans to document "How to find test logs" in the works (jlaska, 16:40:17)
   2. waiting on production hardware delivery (jlaska, 16:41:27)
   3. Preliminary hook/watcher for koji package builds available - https://fedorahosted.org/autoqa/browser/hooks/post-koji-build/watch-koji-builds.py (jlaska, 16:44:06)
   4. Additional work needed on koji package watcher/hook - only prints list of builds, needs integration into autoqa (jlaska, 16:45:43)
   5. jkeating reminded to keep an eye towards future integration with the message bus (jlaska, 16:50:22)
   6. http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/autoqa.git?a=tree;f=tests/rpmguard (kparal, 16:52:38)
   7. #1 - name: the script for displaying important differences between rpms, originally called 'packagediff', was renamed to 'rpmguard' (jlaska, 16:53:00)
   8. #2 - location: the autoqa project has provided hosting for the rpmguard (see http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/autoqa.git?a=tree;f=tests/rpmguard) (jlaska, 16:53:35)
   9. HELP: if interested, help test rpmguard (using latest rpmdiff from svn) (jlaska, 16:55:43)
   
   
5. How_to_Debug_<component> Update from Viking-Ice (jlaska, 16:57:39)
   1. rjune assisted adamw in testing the use of a wiki template (jlaska, 16:59:44)
   2. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_debug_Dracut_problems2 (jlaska, 16:59:48)
   3. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Template:How_to_debug2 (jlaska, 16:59:54)
   4. ACTION: jlaska to rename other debug pages (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging) to be consistent with "How to debug <component> problems". Update back-links also (jlaska, 17:06:47)
   5. existing Debugging pages using older name scheme will need to be moved (jlaska, 17:08:56)
   
   
6. Open Discussion - <your topic here> (jlaska, 17:09:04)
   1. Oxf13 asked for extra eyes/fingers as crit-path tag requests come in for final (jlaska, 17:10:37)
   2. https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/timeline?ticket=on&changeset=on&milestone=on&wiki=on&max=50&daysback=90&format=rss - rss feed to monitor tag requests (adamw, 17:13:52)
   3. rats_install tests operate against internal redhat.com mirror of rawhide ... and are failing due to what looks like out of sync content (jlaska, 17:17:25)
   4. https://fedorahosted.org/pipermail/autoqa-results/2009-October/001652.html (jlaska, 17:17:39)
   5. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F12_bugs (adamw, 17:18:31)
   6. ACTION: jlaska - help clean out remaining promised Common_F12_Bugs (jlaska, 17:19:59)
   7. http://tinyurl.com/l4kma5 - Bugs needing Common_F12_Bugs documentation (jlaska, 17:20:23)
   8. if you're aware of any bug that's in the released beta images that you think should be documented there, please either add it (there's guidelines on layout in the wiki page source) or add the 'CommonBugs' keyword to the bug report (jlaska, 17:20:44)
   9. talking points for Fedora 12 Beta awesome-ness - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F12_Beta_Announcement (jlaska, 17:22:01)

Action items

1. jlaska to rename other debug pages (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging) to be consistent with "How to debug <component> problems". Update back-links also
2. jlaska - help clean out remaining promised Common_F12_Bugs

Action items, by person

1. jlaska
   1. jlaska to rename other debug pages (see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Debugging) to be consistent with "How to debug <component> problems". Update back-links also
   2. jlaska - help clean out remaining promised Common_F12_Bugs

People present (lines said)

1. jlaska (174)
2. wwoods (52)
3. Oxf13 (52)
4. adamw (50)
5. kparal (28)
6. Viking-Ice (13)
7. Southern_Gentlem (11)
8. lili_ (10)
9. nirik (10)
10. zodbot (8)
11. mcepl (3)
12. buggbot (2)
13. mbonnet (2)
14. notting (1)
15. Jeff_S (1)