15:08:59 <tk009> #startmeeting 15:08:59 <zodbot> Meeting started Tue Oct 13 15:08:59 2009 UTC. The chair is tk009. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 15:08:59 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 15:09:33 <tk009> sorry for the late start. Who is here for the bug zappers meeting? =) 15:09:47 <serega> oh, I'm in time 15:09:52 * serega is here 15:09:53 <tk009> =) 15:10:01 <cebbert> aqui 15:10:46 <tk009> I didn't get a real agenda put together for today. I have been away 15:11:06 <tk009> so this might be a short eeting 15:11:12 <tk009> =) 15:12:34 <tk009> adamw was everything from the last meeting finished 15:13:06 <tk009> I know there was soe discussion about the debug templates in the QA meeting yesterday 15:13:14 <adamw> hiya 15:13:22 <adamw> yeah, i wasn't there :/ 15:13:42 <adamw> saw my name mentioned a couple of times, but that was all...i'll have a quick look at the meeting summary and see if i can pull anything interesting out 15:13:43 <tk009> viking-ice was leading that yesterday fro the log I read 15:14:09 <tk009> has anyone heard from comphappy? 15:14:35 <serega> nope 15:14:51 <adamw> they seemed to make a decision to go with the how_to_debug_X naming 15:14:55 <adamw> (which is fine by me) 15:15:04 <adamw> other than that it was mostly just viking_ice explaining the project 15:15:14 <tk009> this would habve been the start of the housekeeping duties 15:15:25 <tk009> it did look like he covered it all 15:15:36 <tk009> I wasnt sure if there was more 15:16:18 <tk009> with the change to the release date housekeeping is now moved forward two weeks 15:16:27 <tk009> so nothing really there 15:16:54 <serega> cool 15:17:17 <tk009> I bet money it wont slip again =) 15:17:33 <adamw> optimist =) 15:17:35 <serega> I had no time to deal with old stuff last two weeks :( 15:17:43 * mcepl ... 15:17:43 <adamw> wait, we delayed beta another week? 15:17:46 <tk009> I dont think any of us have 15:18:01 <tk009> new release date is 17 november 15:18:21 <adamw> oh, k. don't know why housekeeping goes back *two* weeks then. oh well :) 15:18:34 <tk009> well 30 days my counting ay be off 15:18:45 <tk009> 1 week? 15:18:46 <tk009> =) 15:19:24 <serega> do you assign the HouseKeeping date yourself? :) 15:19:29 <tk009> no 15:20:05 <tk009> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping 15:20:48 <tk009> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/BugZappers/HouseKeeping/FourWeeksBeforeRelease 15:22:22 <adamw> so, that's that. rjune's not around to give us a kernel triage update... 15:22:48 <adamw> i'd ask jeff_hann what was going on there but he's not here either. 15:22:59 <tk009> no comphappy 15:23:31 <serega> I'd like to propose a new mechanism in the bugzilla. I feel a need to subscribe to all new bugreports for a certain component. Following the maintainer's email does this, but there are too much non-NEW emails which steal attention. 15:24:10 <serega> reading all the maintainer emails is just too much 15:24:47 <tk009> what about the rss feed for the component? 15:25:11 <adamw> serega: so you'd like to be notified of each new bug in the component, but not read any further emails? 15:25:12 <tk009> which component is it? 15:25:17 <adamw> er, not get* 15:25:51 <serega> tk009: gdm sure 15:26:05 <tk009> if there isnt a feed for that component we can make it easy 15:26:25 <adamw> tk009: would a feed do what serega wants - only notify of new bug reports, not modifications to them? 15:26:33 <serega> adamw: yup. there is a big amount of actions performed by three maintainers in the bugzilla 15:26:49 <tk009> I am not sure to be honest 15:26:56 <tk009> I've never used the feeds 15:27:08 <adamw> me either 15:27:12 <adamw> well, if it would, that's good 15:27:23 <adamw> if not, it's trickier...hang on a sec, let me poke about a bit 15:27:27 <serega> ok, thanks for the point, I'll try and feedback 15:28:05 <tk009> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&classification=Fedora&component=gdm&field-1-0-0=classification&field-1-1-0=component&field-1-2-0=bug_status&query_format=advanced&remaction=&type-1-0-0=anyexact&type-1-1-0=anyexact&type-1-2-0=anyexact&value-1-0-0=Fedora&value-1-1-0=acl&value-1-2-0=NEW&title=Bug%20List&ctype=atom 15:28:10 <tk009> sorry 15:28:13 <tk009> grrr 15:28:21 <adamw> serega: there are some email preferences under 'preferences' in Bugzilla 15:28:41 <adamw> but they're quite broad...not sure if you can do what you want there, without losing some other mails you want to get 15:29:20 <adamw> aside from that, we (Fedora) do not want to implement significant changes to the upstream Bugzilla code, it makes maintaining our bugzilla implementation much harder if we have to maintain private patches to it 15:29:39 <adamw> so our bugzilla guys would send you upstream to request such a change, they wouldn't build it themselves, i'm afraid 15:29:54 <adamw> one idea that comes to mind is you could use filters on your end, so all the mail is sent to you but you filter most of it out 15:30:07 <serega> hm, I see, thanks. Though I bet there are 4-5 checkboxes I need to disable for sure :) 15:30:15 <tk009> I would try the feed first 15:30:21 <adamw> i _think_ there should be enough information to identify a mail that's a change to a previous bug, rather than a new report, for filtering purposes 15:30:22 <tk009> what can it hurt 15:30:26 <adamw> sure 15:32:31 <tk009> the feed seems to only show the bugs not the changes 15:32:39 <mcepl> serega: take a looks at X-Bugzilla-* email headers ... they may provide information you need 15:32:39 <tk009> I have it set right now 15:33:16 <serega> thanks 15:33:32 * serega wonders NickServ talks to him 15:34:45 <tk009> I still say the feed way to go, beah to email =) 15:35:23 <tk009> if noone has anything else... 15:35:50 <adamw> if the feed only shows new bugs then that does sound ideal =) 15:35:57 <tk009> 99 bugs by the way, 5 from today 15:36:11 <adamw> yikes. 15:36:18 <adamw> i don't have any topics to bring up, I don't think 15:36:58 <tk009> well then, thanks all for being here. We will get it together for next week. 15:37:17 <tk009> #endmeeting