20:00:34 <mmcgrath> #startmeeting
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20:00:37 <mmcgrath> #topic who's here?
20:00:52 * nirik is a but busy, but hanging around in the back anyhow.
20:00:57 <Ac-town> .fasinfo actown
20:00:58 <zodbot> Ac-town: User: actown, Name: Derrick Dymock, email: actown@gmail.com, Creation: 2009-10-03, IRC Nick: Actown, Timezone: US/Pacific, Locale: en, Extension: 5138529, GPG key ID: 0xFEB5BB3B, Status: active
20:01:01 <zodbot> Ac-town: Approved Groups: cla_done cla_fedora sysadmin-test blogadmin
20:01:04 <zodbot> Ac-town: Unapproved Groups: sysadmin ambassadors
20:01:05 * a-k is
20:01:19 <mmcgrath> smooge: ping
20:01:20 <mmcgrath> ricky: ping
20:01:21 <mmcgrath> abadger1999: ping
20:01:24 <mmcgrath> dgilmore: ping
20:01:26 <mmcgrath> mdomsch: ping
20:01:28 <mmcgrath> skvidal: ping
20:01:30 <smooge> ping
20:01:32 * mmcgrath can't ever remember everyone to ping
20:01:33 <mmcgrath> so ping
20:01:34 <skvidal> hi
20:01:35 <abadger1999> pong
20:01:39 <skvidal> soaping?
20:01:39 <mdomsch> so it is
20:01:39 <abadger1999> :-)
20:01:46 * SmootherFrOgZ here
20:01:48 <skvidal> ping *
20:01:56 * sijis is here
20:01:58 * leemwilliams is loitering
20:02:08 <Ac-town> btw, sorta here, working on test day stuff on a server box in osl
20:02:16 <Ac-town> but ill keep up
20:02:17 <mmcgrath> Ok, lets get started.
20:02:21 <mmcgrath> This should probably be quick.
20:02:32 <smooge> for i in $SYSADMIN_LIST; do { ping $i; if $? == pong continue}'
20:02:33 <mmcgrath> #topic Beta tickets
20:02:44 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1709
20:02:45 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1709 (f12-beta website) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1709
20:02:55 <mmcgrath> AFAIK that's well under way though still not using mizmo 's markups.
20:03:01 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1710
20:03:01 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1710 (Verify Mirror Space) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1710
20:03:19 <mmcgrath> smooge: any word on that?
20:03:31 <mmcgrath> basically we usually ping Oxf13 to find out how much he needs and then make sure we have that.
20:03:39 <mmcgrath> the *trick* is to make sure that content stays under 1T of data
20:03:46 <Oxf13> hrm, yeah
20:03:47 <mmcgrath> That's a new self-imposed rule of ours.
20:04:02 <Oxf13> so I'd say take the size of F11, increase it by 10% and use that as a good guess
20:04:17 <mmcgrath> Oxf13: what's different from the alpha?
20:04:21 <mmcgrath> we have spins we didn't before?
20:04:22 <Oxf13> oh wait
20:04:26 <Oxf13> sorry, you're asking about Beta, not final
20:04:33 <Oxf13> Beta should be roughly the same size as Alpha
20:04:35 <mmcgrath> yeah still on the Final for now.
20:04:39 <mmcgrath> k.
20:04:54 <mmcgrath> smooge: so go ahead and update the ticket with that info and make sure we're not going overboard.
20:05:12 <smooge> ok I will do so.
20:05:16 <mmcgrath> excellent
20:05:22 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1711
20:05:23 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1711 (Release day ticket) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1711
20:05:26 <mmcgrath> that's just the tracker bug
20:05:31 * mmcgrath is looking at
20:05:40 <mmcgrath> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/report/9
20:05:40 <mmcgrath> btw
20:05:54 <mmcgrath> #action Smooge will update the ticket and check on mirror space for the beta
20:05:58 * mmcgrath thinks those work :)
20:06:04 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1712
20:06:04 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1712 (verify releng permissions) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1712
20:06:27 <mmcgrath> smooge: that's another one that's assigned to you.  It's got two steps.  First is when releng stages the content, next is when it is made available on release day.
20:06:30 <mmcgrath> nothing to do atm.
20:06:35 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1713
20:06:36 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1713 (MM Redirects) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1713
20:06:40 <mmcgrath> mdomsch:  has that all closed already (woot)
20:06:42 <mmcgrath> .ticket 1715
20:06:42 <zodbot> mmcgrath: #1715 (Lessons Learned) - Fedora Infrastructure - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-infrastructure/ticket/1715
20:06:50 <mmcgrath> this is a "after the Beta" ticket so there's nothing to do there.
20:07:27 <mmcgrath> Also as you note the beta slipped.
20:07:36 <mmcgrath> #info The new beta release day is 2009-10-20
20:07:52 <mmcgrath> #info this also means our change freeze is extended by a week.
20:07:58 <mmcgrath> Ok, anyone have any questions or comments on the beta?
20:08:21 <smooge> not at the moemnt
20:09:18 <mmcgrath> alllrighty
20:09:23 <mmcgrath> #topic Cloud Stuff
20:09:30 <mmcgrath> So the Cumulus work is going along.
20:09:34 <mmcgrath> people have their guests.
20:09:44 <mmcgrath> #info If you have lost access to your guest, come contact me to fix it.
20:10:08 <mmcgrath> We're waiting on a few key changes to go in that are causing several issues.
20:10:15 <mmcgrath> It means a lot of juggling.
20:10:28 <mmcgrath> I've also been doing work on getting stateless guests to work as that's one of the use cases that was discussed.
20:10:43 <mmcgrath> Anyone who does not have a guest that would like one?
20:11:33 <mmcgrath> allright :)
20:11:47 <mmcgrath> #topic Asterisk FAD
20:12:02 <mmcgrath> So this is one of those things that's sort of jumped out of normal infrastructure view and into a small team of people to get it done.
20:12:06 <mmcgrath> which is an excellent idea.
20:12:08 <smooge> I would like a guest.
20:12:12 <mmcgrath> the discussion has been going on with F-I-L
20:12:18 <smooge> I have to figure out what I want to do with it though
20:12:21 <mmcgrath> smooge: excellent, ping me after the meeting and I'll get one setup for you.
20:12:29 <mmcgrath> smooge: seti@home?
20:12:31 <mmcgrath> :)
20:12:40 <smooge> oh I was thinking of cracking DES hashes but ok
20:13:00 <mmcgrath> I'm working on getting something rawhide(ish) going but have been running into issues.
20:13:15 <smooge> what is the plan for this...
20:13:32 <smooge> asterisk2 gets working/stabilized and asterisk1 gets updated when that happens?
20:13:59 <mmcgrath> #info I've opened 528053 about this
20:14:08 <mmcgrath> smooge: yeah.
20:14:18 <mmcgrath> for some hosts, like hosted[12] collab[12] and asterisk[12]
20:14:25 <mmcgrath> the 1 node is the active node.
20:14:28 <mmcgrath> the other one is a backup.
20:14:35 <mmcgrath> but we also use it for new integration and such.
20:14:48 <mmcgrath> But this is going to be a pretty major overhaul of not just what asterisk is doing but what the host is doing.
20:15:02 <mmcgrath> so asterisk1 will be completely blown away at some point.
20:15:41 <mmcgrath> Anyone have any questions on this?
20:16:36 <mmcgrath> Allrighty
20:16:40 <mmcgrath> #topic Search Engine
20:16:44 <mmcgrath> a-k: you want to take this one?
20:17:03 <a-k> Sure.  huzifas and I chatted breifly yesterday.  We split the 4 suggestions from ianweller between us.  There's a wiki page to track out work.  We'll reconnect on Tuesday to see how it's going.
20:17:13 <a-k> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infrastructure/Search for those who want to see it.
20:17:25 <a-k> I've got a question, though.
20:17:35 <a-k> Does anyone know how much affix has worked on it?  According to nickserv affix was "last seen  : Oct 02 19:54:36 2009 (6 days, 00:07:44 ago)"
20:17:52 <mmcgrath> a-k: not very long, he would have accepted the ticket on....
20:18:01 * mmcgrath is looking
20:18:18 <mmcgrath> less than a month ago.
20:18:28 <mmcgrath> and I know affix has been working on other things as well so this may have been moved to his back burner.
20:18:36 <mmcgrath> a-k: have you had any luck getting ahold of him?
20:18:43 <a-k> Nope.
20:19:12 <a-k> I'm disinclined to just take it from him, in case he's actually done something.
20:19:38 <a-k> Suggestions?
20:19:52 <mmcgrath> a-k: well, if he still hasn't gotten back to you after a week go ahead and take it.  For now though move forward with your work, test some out.
20:20:02 <a-k> Roger.
20:20:08 <mmcgrath> Worst case, we have two people with knowledge about the same engines.
20:20:37 <mmcgrath> a-k: can you think of anything else worth mentioning on that?
20:20:57 <a-k> No.  Neither huzifas have probably gotten very far since yesterday.
20:21:07 <a-k> oops + nor I
20:21:23 <mmcgrath> a-k: no worries, thanks for looking into it.
20:21:31 <mmcgrath> And that's really it since we're change frozen at the moment.
20:21:34 <mmcgrath> #topic Open Floor
20:21:39 <mmcgrath> anyone have anything they'd like to discuss?
20:21:56 <ianweller> at some point tonight or tomorrow i'll be sending out a change request for the licensing change of the wiki.
20:22:12 <ianweller> it's a small patch to the localsettings.php file in puppet
20:22:15 <mmcgrath> ianweller: how hard will that be?  templates change or config change or what?
20:22:18 <mmcgrath> ah, excellent.
20:22:21 <ianweller> although
20:22:28 <ianweller> it kinda looks ugly on 1024px wide monitors ^_^
20:22:37 <ianweller> it's live now https://stg.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Main_Page
20:22:42 <ianweller> and by 'live' i mean 'live on staging'
20:23:23 <mmcgrath> <nod>
20:23:31 <mmcgrath> ianweller: anything else?
20:23:37 <ianweller> newp.
20:23:42 <ianweller> i should also run it by spot
20:24:06 <mmcgrath> ianweller: yeah, he likes to be kept up to date on that stuff.  Send him the staging site and make sure it's all good before we do it in production.
20:24:40 <mmcgrath> Ok, well that's all I've got.
20:24:54 <mmcgrath> #action Ianweller will run the wiki license change by spot
20:25:06 <mmcgrath> #action sometime soon we'll be changing the license in production
20:25:06 <abadger1999> Mention phx2 change of schedules?
20:25:10 <mmcgrath> ah yes
20:25:29 <mmcgrath> #info The PHX1 -> PHX2 migration now has a deadline of the end of December.
20:25:35 <smooge> woohoo
20:25:38 <mmcgrath> I can't say this is a slip because we've never actually scheduled a time to do this yet.
20:25:49 <smooge> I can spend Xmas in Phoenix
20:25:52 <mmcgrath> but this does mean that if the release slips, it won't have an impact on the move.
20:26:02 <smooge> oh darn I said that out loud
20:26:11 <mmcgrath> heheheh
20:27:05 <mmcgrath> Ok, if no one has anything else we'll close in 30
20:27:16 * mmcgrath also notes hardware has started to arrive in PHX2 (new hardware) but none is installed yet.
20:28:02 <mmcgrath> alrighty
20:28:04 <mmcgrath> #endmeeting