00:01:38 #startmeeting Docs Project Meeting - Agenda: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Docs_Project_meetings 00:01:38 Meeting started Thu Sep 24 00:01:38 2009 UTC. The chair is Sparks. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 00:01:38 Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 00:01:47 #topic Roll Call 00:01:48 * Sparks 00:02:07 * jjmcd . 00:02:56 * danielsmw 00:03:31 * ianweller kinda sorta not really 00:05:47 * Sparks gives everyone just a few more minutes 00:08:34 Okay, let's get started. 00:08:48 #topic Last week's action items 00:09:00 quaid to follow up with Richard about the use of the CC logo on the wiki. 00:09:01 none of the action item guys are here 00:09:09 Yeah, I just realized that. 00:09:24 We'll just pass these by... 00:09:42 #topic Release notes format changes 00:09:50 jjmcd: Is there any further discussion on this? 00:09:56 what were we changing? 00:10:26 A little late, they are being built each night 00:10:34 I don't know. 00:10:42 We'll just call this topic done. 00:10:54 #topic Status on CMS (Zikula) 00:10:55 http://fedora.is-sixsigma.com/F12beta 00:11:02 Is there any update on Zikula? 00:11:25 Um, I guess I have a small one 00:11:31 danielsmw: go ahead 00:11:45 I hope I'm not being a blocker, but I'm not done with my package yet. 00:11:48 I am very close though 00:11:51 and most of the work is done 00:11:59 danielsmw: Which package? 00:12:01 what I need is a legit packager to help me out with my packaging mistakes 00:12:04 Xinha, for Scribite! 00:12:17 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Zikula#Module_status 00:12:26 ^^^ I don't see it on the list. Could you add it, please? 00:12:53 danielsmw: I'm a packager but certainly not legit. ianweller is one, though. 00:13:01 Sparks: alright 00:13:05 If he can't help you then maybe he can point you to someone who can 00:13:07 wait, should this be on this list? 00:13:14 Yes. 00:13:19 okay 00:13:23 even though it's a general package 00:13:26 and not a zikula module? 00:13:54 Well... it's needed for Zikula, right? 00:13:56 It's just that it's _for_ zikula, which is why I brought it up now. 00:13:58 Yeah, it is 00:14:02 So I guess it goes there then. 00:14:05 I'll update the list. :) 00:14:18 TU 00:14:40 danielsmw: Do you know how much more time it will take to get it straight? 00:14:57 if I may... I had started to package Xinha for a project of mine (but they I abandoned as I didn't use it in the end) 00:15:18 Sparks: i really do have most of it done now, I believe. It's just silly rpmbuild errors 00:15:27 all I remember is that it wasn't a hard package, I had it built 00:15:40 bochecha: it doesn't look that hard, I'm just no good at packaging. :) 00:15:41 danielsmw: What are the errors? 00:15:54 danielsmw, if I can help, drop me an email, I had already done it :P 00:16:09 Sparks: things like... using sources that aren't archives, and such. 00:16:12 bochecha: will do, thanks! 00:16:25 Sparks: but the main outline of what I"m doing is there. 00:16:31 danielsmw.fedorapeople.org/xinha.spec 00:17:20 danielsmw: Okay. If I can get my head above water (maybe this weekend) I'll be happy to look at it. ianweller fixed so many errors for me that I might know how to fix yours 00:17:24 might 00:17:41 Sparks: might. thanks, it looks like I'll be getting plenty of help. 00:17:47 danielsmw, if you have time tomorrow I might help, too tired tonite 00:18:08 cool 00:18:12 great 00:18:14 thanks everyone. 00:18:17 i appreciate it. 00:18:20 Anything else for zikula? 00:19:21 uh 00:19:23 I have a question 00:19:27 danielsmw: Go ahead 00:19:35 * quaid arrives back 00:19:38 On that page you told me to edit, FCKeditor is listed as something that needs to be packaged 00:19:46 * quaid can address his item when it comes back around 00:19:47 which is basically the same thing as Xinha. 00:19:53 is there a reason they should both be done? 00:20:23 No 00:20:25 or is that just left over? 00:20:26 Not really 00:20:30 okay, i'll remove it then. 00:21:11 Okay, anything else for Zikula? 00:22:03 #topic Status on CC license rollout. 00:22:14 quaid: Were you able to follow up with Legal? 00:22:16 danielsmw: did you get hooked up with the Beacon maintainer? 00:22:19 Sparks: yes! 00:22:25 quaid: no, I forgot! 00:22:28 ironically, Richard just pointed back to spot 00:22:41 and spot knows of the problem; and there doesn't seem to be a solution 00:22:51 i.e., the CC logo(s) are not coverable by the CC-BY-SA 00:23:04 but maybe spot can explain better ... 00:23:08 * quaid forgot to ask if he'd be around 00:23:16 neither is our logo... 00:23:24 BUT, I'm good either way 00:23:44 heh, nor are other logos we might carry 00:23:50 yeah 00:24:22 spot: You around? 00:25:14 I guess not. 00:25:24 So I don't see the problem with using it. 00:25:47 And I do see a problem with using it. 00:26:00 So are we going to go with "don't use it"? 00:26:07 well, we have a clear legal guidance for don't use 00:26:13 so, for now, we don't use it. 00:26:24 I'll ask spot to explain on list, k? 00:26:40 k 00:27:08 #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/License_changeover_schedule 00:27:29 So I guess we need to make internal notifications and then get ianweller on changing the wiki over 00:28:08 rudi's not here tonight but he was still trying to get access to those packages so he could change the Publican brand files over 00:28:30 * danielsmw is sneaking out early. peace. 00:28:37 danielsmw: Have a good one 00:28:46 Anything else on the license changeover? 00:29:02 * quaid is happy :) 00:29:30 #topic # 00:29:30 * 00:29:32 #topic Shared open-source style guide 00:29:47 I think this is a rudi thing, too. Anyone have anything to report on this? 00:30:09 well, yes 00:30:14 this was just part of something, righ? 00:30:14 quaid: Go ahead 00:30:20 do we have someone who is focusing on what is going on 00:30:25 with the upstream initiative? 00:30:26 Well.... 00:30:29 writingopensource.org, right? 00:30:34 maybe 00:30:39 I don't remember now 00:30:49 I think rudi was working on getting RH to release their docs 00:31:03 right 00:31:04 I think ke4qqq was going to work on it as well 00:31:17 that is something we can contribute to the upstream effort, or so I thought we discussed :) 00:31:27 I forget who was on-list with this item ... 00:31:36 he's a gnome.org person, iirc. 00:31:38 yeah, I think someone else had point but I don't remember who 00:31:48 * quaid looks 00:34:38 It's been so long ago I don't even remember 00:34:49 shaun mcchance? 00:34:57 * quaid having slow browser ... 00:35:50 * quaid joins http://identi.ca/group/wosdocs 00:36:19 So we need to figure out who from FP is going to work on this. 00:36:56 I think ke4qqq was interested but I don't know how much time he has now 00:38:53 Let's take this to the list and see if we can stir up any interest 00:38:57 anything else on this? 00:39:28 #topic Guide needs? 00:39:38 Are their any guides (or RN) that need help? 00:40:13 I see some weird stuff 00:40:19 need to get w/rudi 00:40:56 okay... anything else? 00:41:36 #topic New Guides 00:41:40 Any new guides? 00:42:33 #topic All other business 00:42:46 Anyone have anything else? 00:44:32 * Sparks thinks we're going to get done early 00:44:43 5 00:44:45 4 00:44:47 3 00:44:49 2 00:44:52 1 00:44:57 #endmeeting