17:00:05 <jds2001> #startmeeting FESCo meeting 20090911
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17:00:09 <jds2001> #chair dgilmore jwb notting nirik sharkcz jds2001 j-rod skvidal Kevin_Kofler
17:00:09 <zodbot> Current chairs: Kevin_Kofler dgilmore j-rod jds2001 jwb nirik notting sharkcz skvidal
17:00:16 * skvidal is here
17:00:23 <jwb> i will be about 10 min late
17:00:25 * nirik is here, but running to go get some coffee. back in a sec.
17:00:51 <notting> jds2001: here, but have to step out. be back in 5
17:01:28 <jds2001> k
17:01:48 * dgilmore is here
17:02:01 <jds2001> i guess we can get started maybe
17:02:22 <skvidal> or we can wait 5 minutes or so and have notting, jwb and nirik be more likely to be here :)
17:02:25 <jds2001> #topic provenpackager request - sundaram
17:02:29 <jds2001> ok
17:02:32 <jds2001> that works too :)
17:02:43 * jds2001 goes to grab a coke
17:04:51 * nirik is back.
17:06:11 * jds2001 is too, with a red bull rather than a coke :D
17:06:25 * j-rod just in
17:08:14 * jds2001 wonders if notting and jwb are around yet
17:09:35 <notting> back now. sorry.
17:10:45 <jds2001> np, lets get started i guess
17:10:51 <jwb> back now
17:10:55 <jds2001> .fesco 248
17:10:56 <zodbot> jds2001: #248 (Request to become provenpackager - sundaram) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/248
17:10:57 <jds2001> +1
17:11:18 <skvidal> +1
17:11:23 <j-rod> +1
17:11:44 * jds2001 notes kkofler was +1 in the ticket
17:11:52 <notting> +1
17:12:05 <skvidal> okay that's done
17:12:11 <jds2001> #agreed sundaram provenpackager requet is approved
17:12:37 <jwb> did anyone want to address the negative feedback?
17:12:37 * nirik got distracted, sorry... +1 here too.
17:12:46 <jds2001> #topic provenpackager request - akurtakov
17:12:52 <jds2001> .fesco 249
17:12:53 <zodbot> jds2001: #249 (Request to become provenpackager - akurtakov) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/249
17:12:57 <jwb> or not i guess...
17:13:21 <jds2001> jwb: oops, didnt even see you
17:13:29 <jds2001> your comment :)
17:13:33 <jwb> fairly moot now.  we can move on
17:14:01 * notting is +1 to akurtakov - given the number of packages and the feedback on list
17:14:11 <jds2001> +1 to akurtakov
17:14:20 <j-rod> +1, same as notting
17:14:28 <jds2001> kkofler was also +1
17:14:29 <nirik> +1 here as well, he's done well from all my interactions with him.
17:14:45 <jwb> +1
17:14:57 <jds2001> #agreed akurtakov provenpackager request is approved
17:15:04 <jds2001> #topic FPC guidelines
17:15:09 <jds2001> .fesco 250
17:15:10 <zodbot> jds2001: #250 (Fedora Packaging Committee items for ratification (2009-09-09)) - FESCo - Trac - https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/ticket/250
17:15:53 <j-rod> +1 to the preferred archive format thing
17:16:00 <notting> +1, seems pretty obvious
17:16:07 <jds2001> seems sane to me
17:16:09 <nirik> yeaha, +1 too, seems a good idea/tip
17:16:21 <skvidal> +1
17:16:24 <jds2001> and kkofler was +1
17:16:46 <jds2001> #agreed Preferred source format FPC guideline is accepted.
17:16:51 <jds2001> #topic open floor
17:17:02 <jwb> uh
17:17:02 <jds2001> i had two items
17:17:04 <jwb> i guess +1
17:17:27 <jwb> am i in the right meeting?  things are moving way too fast for this to be a FESCo meeting...
17:17:32 <jds2001> jwb: sorry we're moving fast :)
17:17:36 <jwb> ;)
17:17:54 <dgilmore> jds2001: 2 things?
17:17:55 <skvidal> jwb: kevin is out of town :)
17:18:22 <jds2001> dgilmore: one is the potential of a F2F meeting in YYZ
17:18:39 <dgilmore> jds2001: we should
17:18:46 <jds2001> i reached out to stickster yesterday, and he's open to the idea of a combined board/FESCo Q&A session
17:19:24 <jds2001> just wanted to know what folks thought about that
17:19:35 * nirik needs to get started on a passport
17:19:42 <jds2001> (the board will be holding a separate meeting from that, and I think we probably should too)
17:19:46 <jwb> if i go, i'll be glad to attend
17:19:59 <nirik> seems a reasonable idea, depending on scheduling, etc.
17:20:02 <notting> i should be there (need to book flight)
17:20:28 <nirik> is there hotel info now?
17:20:31 <skvidal> nirik: you need to started on the passport nowish
17:20:32 <skvidal> nirik: yes
17:20:33 <jds2001> there is
17:20:33 <dgilmore> notting: same
17:20:41 <nirik> yeah, I know.
17:20:43 * skvidal grumbles about having to fly - but it is likely I'll be there
17:20:51 <jds2001> nirik: it's $105CDN/night
17:21:04 <skvidal> jds2001: so about $95 US
17:21:22 <jds2001> we havent quite announced it yet since the hotel page is wrong
17:21:28 <jds2001> we'll be holding FEDCon :D
17:22:10 <skvidal> ?
17:22:23 <skvidal> what does that mean?
17:22:53 <stickster> It means the hotel has spelled our name wrong on the registration page :-)
17:22:53 <jwb> crap.  need to drop off.  sorry all
17:22:56 * jwb &
17:23:02 <jds2001> http://hiltongardeninn.hilton.com/en/gi/groups/personalized/YYZVAGI-FED-20091202/index.jhtml
17:23:06 <stickster> ctyler and I are trying to get that corrected.
17:23:20 * stickster is calling them when he gets off the call he's currently on
17:23:47 <skvidal> stickster: out of curiosity - what's transportion like between the hotel and the venue?
17:24:06 <dgilmore> stickster: can we walk?
17:24:10 <stickster> Toronto has excellent public transportation options, there's a bus running every ~15min
17:24:22 <stickster> You could probably walk if you left a half hour and don't mind the weather
17:24:27 <dgilmore> is it a couple of jeremy blocks
17:24:32 * stickster points to the web page
17:24:34 <skvidal> dgilmore: remember it's december in toronto
17:24:38 <stickster> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FUDCon:Toronto_2009
17:24:47 <dgilmore> skvidal: so its jumper weather
17:25:49 <notting> skvidal: so i should pack shorts?
17:25:59 <skvidal> sigh
17:26:08 <jds2001> notting: i'd pay money to see you do that :D
17:26:19 * notting thinks we have veered a little off topic
17:26:37 <jds2001> just slightly :)
17:26:42 <jds2001> anyhow.....
17:26:50 <jds2001> the other is the threat assessment
17:26:59 <jds2001> folks got my latest draft?
17:27:09 <skvidal> we were supposed to read that?
17:27:16 <skvidal> jds2001: think you can resend it?
17:27:20 <dgilmore> skvidal: there is a pop quiz
17:27:38 <skvidal> apparently
17:28:57 <jds2001> skvidal: resent
17:29:21 <skvidal> no - I didn't resent it at all - I just didn't read it :) <zing>
17:29:31 <skvidal> thanks
17:29:48 <jds2001> oh, i thought you had lost it or something :)
17:30:00 <jds2001> there i go taking things literally again :)
17:30:21 <skvidal> thanks
17:30:29 <jds2001> np
17:30:40 <jds2001> btw, i just got the joke :)
17:30:47 * jds2001 slow sometimes :D
17:31:17 <jds2001> anyhow, those were my items
17:31:21 <jds2001> anyone got anything else?
17:31:59 <notting> i talked to the QA people today about F12 & test days
17:32:16 <notting> and that they should report anything that looks bad. they said things look good so far.
17:33:15 <jds2001> cool :)
17:33:28 <jds2001> so you'll promise us no beta slippage? :D
17:33:58 <skvidal> jds2001: if we slip at all we're getting dangerously near tgiving
17:34:10 <jds2001> yeah
17:34:15 <notting> jds2001: oh, i didn't say that
17:34:35 <notting> just nothing that screams to them that it needs to be reverted
17:36:12 <jds2001> anyone got anything else?
17:37:01 * jds2001 ends the meeting in 5
17:37:08 <jds2001> #endmeeting