01:48:41 <cmurf> #startmeeting Workstation WG (2021-09-07)
01:48:41 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Sep  8 01:48:41 2021 UTC.
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01:48:41 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation_wg_(2021-09-07)'
01:48:43 <cmurf> #meetingname workstation
01:48:43 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'workstation'
01:48:45 <cmurf> #chair: Neal
01:48:45 <zodbot> Current chairs: : Neal cmurf
01:48:56 <cmurf> #topic Rollcall
01:48:58 <cmurf> #info present:  mclasen, Chris, Owen, Tomas, Jens, Michael Catanzaro, Zac, James,
01:49:00 <cmurf> #info present guests: Luna Jernberg (bittin)
01:49:02 <cmurf> #topic Approval of August 31 minutes
01:49:04 <cmurf> #link https://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-2/2021/fedora-meeting-2.2021-09-01-03.44.html
01:49:06 <cmurf> #agreed Approved
01:49:08 <cmurf> #topic Announcements, follow-ups, status reports
01:49:10 <cmurf> #info GNOME test day is being planned for Thursday 9 September.
01:49:12 <cmurf> Sadly, the gnome-initial-setup crash is still present in the nightlies. Requires selinux to be disabled (enforcing=0 should do it).
01:49:14 <cmurf> Tomas: open h264 is constantly crashing in F35.
01:49:16 <cmurf> Kalev: please test local builds.
01:49:18 <cmurf> #topic Non-building toolbox issues for F35
01:49:20 <cmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/243
01:49:22 <cmurf> The build system is on RHEL 7. In recent Fedora, glibc changes can no longer reach the network. The infra lead says they can't upgrade from RHEL 7. The issue is affecting multiple teams and there is potential workaround. Last update is from yesterday.
01:49:24 <cmurf> #agreed Let's wait and see what happens.
01:49:26 <cmurf> #topic Improve the user feedback for OOM situations
01:49:28 <cmurf> #link https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/202
01:49:30 <cmurf> The workstation ticket has a few suggestions but fizzled out a while back. However, upstream discussion has recently picked up with some talk on the systemd side.
01:49:32 <cmurf> Benjamin Berg (benzea) is probably the best person to lead this on the desktop side.
01:49:34 <cmurf> What we likely want as a minimal solution is a notification to explain that something was killed. There are further steps we could potentially want - a history of oom events in gnome-abrt, a hook into a system monitor to see what's using resources.
01:49:36 <cmurf> Allan: from a UX perspective, it would be good to at least have a longer description of what the event is and possible reasons it could have happened.
01:49:38 <cmurf> #agreed Wait and see how the upstream discussion pans out.
01:49:40 <cmurf> #topic Open Floor
01:49:42 <cmurf> #info i18n test week is happening 2021-03-09 to 2021-03-16
01:49:44 <cmurf> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2021-09-07_I18N_Test_Day
01:52:50 <cmurf> #endmeeting