15:00:24 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM & AArch64 Status Meeting
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15:00:24 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen bconoboy pbrobinson dgilmore hrw jsmith kyle awafaa
15:00:24 <zodbot> Current chairs: awafaa bconoboy dgilmore hrw jsmith kyle pbrobinson pwhalen
15:00:41 <pwhalen> good morning folks! happy Tuesday
15:01:11 <kylem> .fasinfo kyle
15:01:12 <zodbot> kylem: User: kyle, Name: Kyle McMartin, email: kmcmartin@redhat.com, Creation: 2007-11-07, IRC Nick: kyle / kylem, Timezone: America/New_York, Locale: en, GPG key ID: 191fcd8a, Status: active
15:01:15 <zodbot> kylem: Approved Groups: fedorabugs cla_fedora cla_done packager cla_redhat provenpackager @gitkernel-arm64
15:02:17 <pwhalen> just giving it a couple minutes for others to join
15:02:31 * pbrobinson is here
15:02:34 <awafaa> pwhalen: is there a specific agenda or just a free form?
15:02:40 <pbrobinson> .name is slimshady
15:02:51 <bconoboy> howdy
15:03:02 <pbrobinson> awafaa: there is an agenda... sent to the mailing list
15:03:05 <pwhalen> awafaa, we have a couple of items
15:03:22 <pwhalen> ok, lets get started!
15:03:25 <pwhalen> #topic 1) ==== Fedora 22 Testing ====
15:03:38 <pwhalen> #info Fedora 22 Alpha TC7 Testing Summary
15:03:38 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Fedora_22_Alpha_TC7_Summary
15:03:47 <pwhalen> #info Blocker Bugs & Freeze Exceptions
15:03:47 <pwhalen> #link https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/milestone/22/beta/buglist
15:04:00 <pwhalen> we have one arm specific bug so far
15:04:09 <pwhalen> #info ARM Specific Bugs
15:04:15 <pwhalen> #info network spoke listed as not connected despite having assigned IP and hostname (BZ#1183807)
15:04:15 <pwhalen> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1183807
15:05:20 <yselkowitz> .hellomynameis yselkowitz
15:05:22 <zodbot> yselkowitz: yselkowitz 'Yaakov Selkowitz' <yselkowi@redhat.com>
15:05:38 <pwhalen> other issue is desktop enabled images booting to initial-setup-text
15:05:50 <pwhalen> some boots we get graphical, others text
15:06:19 <pbrobinson> it's a timing thing as there's no way to detect whether it;s text or graphical
15:06:25 <pbrobinson> but have the packages changed?
15:06:40 <pbrobinson> we use to only ship/enable the text one for minimal I thought
15:07:05 <pwhalen> right, only graphical is enabled, but seems to fallback to text none the less
15:07:46 <pbrobinson> OK, maybe need to compare that to F-21
15:08:03 <pwhalen> couple other small issues but not arm specific and being resolved.
15:08:08 <pbrobinson> see if the text package has crept into the dep chain
15:08:32 <pbrobinson> TC8 I think should be announced momentarily
15:08:34 <pwhalen> will look at it some more
15:08:49 <pwhalen> #info Fedup testing completed successfully on Calxeda Highbank (F21 -> F22_Alpha_TC7)
15:09:20 <pwhalen> #info Fedora 22 now includes 'Server' specific image
15:09:52 <pwhalen> #info F22_Alpha_TC8 should be announced shortly
15:10:07 <pwhalen> #link https://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/stage/22_Alpha_TC8/
15:10:32 <hrw> aarch64 images?
15:11:00 <pbrobinson> hrw: will be coming shortly, just trying to get infra sorted out
15:11:01 <pwhalen> Peters been threatening a TC soon
15:11:08 <hrw> cool
15:11:25 * pbrobinson is trying to reinstall the PHX mustangs with F-21
15:11:27 <pwhalen> any other testing results, etc?
15:11:29 * masta is here
15:12:41 <pbrobinson> I've fixed panda
15:12:50 <pbrobinson> will be working in today's kernel
15:13:03 <pwhalen> nice
15:13:06 <pbrobinson> so unless a new kernel gets pulled in for TC/RC it'll be post alpha
15:13:23 <pbrobinson> but I wouldn't be surprised if we did get a new kernel for something
15:13:46 <pwhalen> #topic 2) ==== kernel-4.0 Status ====
15:13:54 <pwhalen> while we're on the kernel
15:14:35 <pbrobinson> so I've tested the latest 4.0rc1 kernel on BBB, PB, CT, WB-quad
15:14:39 <pwhalen> #info F22 Alpha TC7 includes 'kernel-4.0.0-0.rc1.git0.1.fc22.armv7hl'
15:14:47 <pbrobinson> possibly some others too
15:15:11 <pwhalen> sounds similar
15:15:33 <pwhalen> on aarch64, we have some issues on Seattle hardware
15:16:11 <pwhalen> but i'm using older firmware, so i think i need to upgrade
15:16:21 <kylem> we just need new firmware there, but there was some problems with the latest one, so we're waiting for it to get debugged.
15:17:03 <pbrobinson> quality firmware....
15:17:13 <pwhalen> #info new firmware expected to resolve boot issues on Seattle hardware
15:17:22 <pwhalen> thanks kyle
15:17:39 <pwhalen> anything else kernel related?
15:18:18 <pbrobinson> just test and report success/failure
15:18:58 <pwhalen> righto
15:19:00 <pwhalen> #topic 3) ==== Package Status & Issues  ====
15:19:32 <pwhalen> pbrobinson, hrw anything causing grief?
15:19:46 <pbrobinson> just ghc
15:19:53 <pbrobinson> all the rest of the core bits are built
15:20:10 <awafaa> is that an issue with ghci?
15:20:21 <pbrobinson> and the rest of the failures are the usual minor packages with regressions and pretty standard failures
15:20:26 <pwhalen> #info ghc continues to be an issue on aarch64
15:20:31 <pwhalen> #link https://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=2229
15:20:48 <pbrobinson> awafaa: upstream is terrible and doesn't test their crap?
15:20:55 <kylem> hah.
15:21:06 <kylem> stepping away for a sec, hilite if you need me
15:21:18 <awafaa> pbrobinson: heh, ok - so not the fact that something is missing an aarch64 port
15:21:18 <pbrobinson> #info the ghc issue is being tracked in https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1195231
15:21:50 <pbrobinson> awafaa: we've had basic support for some time, it's an issue with the 7.8.4 rebase
15:22:05 <hrw> moarvm would be nice to get update - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1186358
15:22:25 <pbrobinson> awafaa: but then it seems to do things like change ABI depending on the number of cores it's built with so anyone's guess
15:22:40 <yselkowitz> oh wow
15:22:47 <awafaa> impressive
15:23:07 <pbrobinson> hrw: have you pinged the maintainer or had any comms outside the BZ?
15:23:51 <hrw> pbrobinson: will mail him directly
15:24:09 <pbrobinson> hrw: let me know if you have any issues
15:24:15 <hrw> ok
15:24:45 <pwhalen> any other problem packages?
15:24:54 <pbrobinson> not from me
15:25:04 <hrw> csnappy?
15:25:05 <awafaa> as a heads up for those that like node
15:25:38 <awafaa> as joyent refuse to update their stable release with a modern v8 engine
15:25:55 <awafaa> io.js are now working on fixing their build infra to support aarch64
15:26:18 <pbrobinson> hrw: yes, that's just a minor one if you could look at it, not really a core one for the meeting
15:26:24 <hrw> sure
15:26:30 <awafaa> should be available soon, they have access to hardware and are moving forward
15:26:34 <pbrobinson> awafaa: you're incorrect
15:26:47 <pbrobinson> awafaa: nodejs 0.12 supports a v8 that supports aarch64
15:26:58 <awafaa> when did that get pushed out the door?
15:27:14 <pbrobinson> awafaa: a while back, sometime early feb?
15:27:49 <awafaa> pbrobinson: thanks for the correction
15:28:14 <pbrobinson> awafaa: I've pinged the Fedora maintainer about his upgrade intentions but not got a response
15:29:17 <pwhalen> #topic 4) ==== F22 Documentation ====
15:29:28 <pbrobinson> awafaa: FYI http://blog.nodejs.org/2015/02/06/node-v0-12-0-stable/
15:29:35 <pwhalen> #info Initial armhfp F22 Installation page created
15:29:35 <pwhalen> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Architectures/ARM/F22/Installation
15:30:04 <pwhalen> thats followup from the last meeting. copied and pasted from f21, changing release
15:30:12 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: I've not yet had time to look at it
15:30:38 <pwhalen> sure, i did last week but forgot to email out. we'll talk about it next week, edit will be needed of course
15:31:02 <pwhalen> i dont imagine jsmith had time to do anything with it either
15:31:24 <pbrobinson> jsmith was travelling last week so probably not
15:31:43 <pwhalen> i'll do the aarch64 page shortly, that needs some more work this time around
15:32:13 <pwhalen> anything else for docs? ideas?
15:32:58 <pbrobinson> not for this meeting
15:33:01 <pwhalen> #topic 4) == Open Floor ==
15:33:13 <pwhalen> meeting time change for daylight savings time?
15:33:37 <hrw> when is DST?
15:33:45 <pbrobinson> nope... it should stay on UTC time :-D
15:33:46 <pwhalen> in north america its this weekend, which as i understand it most Fedora meetings follow
15:34:06 <hrw> +1 for UTC time
15:34:09 <pbrobinson> pwhalen: maybe for Americans like you ;-)
15:34:19 <pwhalen> how dare you
15:34:24 <pbrobinson> :-D
15:34:24 <awafaa> DST hits europe on the last sunday of march
15:34:28 <pwhalen> proud Canadian
15:34:46 <hrw> Canada is America B?
15:34:46 <masta> yeah, UTC please
15:34:58 <pwhalen> ok, im fine keeping it .. hopefully doesnt conflict
15:35:05 <pbrobinson> honestly doesn't particularly bother me
15:35:20 <awafaa> i have a question about armv8l
15:35:22 <pbrobinson> it's just too easy to wind up Canadians :-P
15:35:39 <awafaa> pbrobinson: just like kiwis like you? ;)
15:35:42 <pbrobinson> awafaa: as in 32 bit on a64 HW?
15:35:47 <pwhalen> oh Peter if it was, youd drive me to drink long ago
15:35:50 <awafaa> pbrobinson: yup
15:36:02 <pbrobinson> awafaa: what's the question
15:37:31 * kylem sits with baited breath.
15:38:06 <awafaa> a good number of packages need to get updated if they want to compile on armv8l rather than armv7l
15:38:23 <awafaa> what are your proposals for the fixes?
15:38:33 <pbrobinson> awafaa: we're not planning, at this point in time, doing armv8l packages
15:38:33 <awafaa> and is it something that fedora even cares about?
15:38:46 <kylem> we'll probably just end up lying about it in uname, by adding a personality for it.
15:39:02 <pbrobinson> awafaa: basically what kylem said
15:39:03 <kylem> since we can fix up the SIGILL in kernel space on the unimplemented instructions.
15:39:18 <awafaa> fair enough, thanks
15:39:37 * kylem has been looking at it, but way on the back burner.
15:41:22 <pwhalen> anything else for open floor?
15:42:21 <hrw> someone got usb on mustang with 4.0-rc?
15:43:00 <pwhalen> dmarlin was looking at it
15:43:29 <dmarlin> I believe it requires a firmware fix (device tree setup)
15:43:41 <pwhalen> ah, right
15:44:13 <pwhalen> This meeting will self destruct in five seconds.. 5...4...3..
15:44:30 <pbrobinson> woo! more firmware updates!
15:44:40 <pwhalen> :)
15:44:51 <pwhalen> #endmeeting