20:00:31 <pwhalen> #startmeeting Fedora ARM weekly status meeting 20:00:31 <zodbot> Meeting started Wed Jul 24 20:00:31 2013 UTC. The chair is pwhalen. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot. 20:00:31 <zodbot> Useful Commands: #action #agreed #halp #info #idea #link #topic. 20:00:31 <pwhalen> #chair pwhalen jonmasters bconoboy ctyler pbrobinson dgilmore dmarlin masta handsome_pirate msalter ahs3 agreene jcapik ddd_ 20:00:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: agreene ahs3 bconoboy ctyler ddd_ dgilmore dmarlin handsome_pirate jcapik jonmasters masta msalter pbrobinson pwhalen 20:00:36 * masta is here 20:00:39 <dmarlin> .fas dmarlin 20:00:39 <pwhalen> good afternoon everyone 20:00:39 <zodbot> dmarlin: dmarlin 'David A. Marlin' <dmarlin@redhat.com> 20:00:44 <pwhalen> .fas pwhalen 20:00:44 <zodbot> pwhalen: pwhalen 'Paul Whalen' <pwhalen@redhat.com> 20:00:50 * dgilmore is here 20:00:51 * pbrobinson is here 20:00:59 * msalter is here 20:01:21 <agreene_> .fas agreene 20:01:21 <zodbot> agreene_: agreene 'Andrew Greene' <andrew.greene@senecacollege.ca> - tag4fedora 'Tim Greene' <tagreene@flowserve.com> 20:01:36 <oatley_> .fas oatley 20:01:37 <zodbot> oatley_: oatley 'Andrew Oatley-Willis' <andrew.oatley-willis@senecacollege.ca> 20:01:49 <masta> hey everyone 20:02:05 <bconoboy> .fas blc@ 20:02:06 <zodbot> bconoboy: blc '' <blc@redhat.com> 20:02:11 <pwhalen> #topic 0) Status of ACTION items from our previous meeting 20:02:12 <pwhalen> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2013-07-17/fedora-meeting-1.2013-07-17-20.02.html 20:03:57 <pwhalen> #info ACTION: dgilmore to setup koji hub&db for aarch64 20:04:09 <dgilmore> still not had a chance to 20:04:45 <pwhalen> #info ACTION: handsome_pirate Is talking to ghc upstream 20:04:54 <pbrobinson> focus has been on push to primary so I suggest we push this back to post mass rebuild 20:05:02 <pbrobinson> that's for koji btw 20:05:50 <pwhalen> #info ACTION: msalter is working on openjdk for aarch64 20:06:03 <pwhalen> #info complete, built! 20:06:07 <msalter> yay 20:06:15 <pbrobinson> woo! 20:06:15 <pwhalen> #info ACTION: kylem to create a list of new supported platforms in 3.11 20:06:40 <kylem> the list includes, and is limited to, what i have in my cube. ;-P 20:06:51 <pbrobinson> boo ;-) 20:06:55 <bconoboy> So... if we store stuff in your cube... 20:06:56 <jcapik1> .fas jcapik 20:06:57 <zodbot> jcapik1: jcapik 'Jaromír Cápík' <jcapik@redhat.com> 20:08:08 <bconoboy> kylem: carry over for next week? 20:08:24 <pbrobinson> might be worth putting it out to the mailing list 20:08:31 <bconoboy> definitely 20:08:51 <kylem> bconoboy, yeah 20:09:02 <kylem> it's too early to tell if it's going to be different from f19 20:09:46 <pwhalen> #topic 1) Problem packages 20:10:02 <pbrobinson> java (being worked on) python3 (being worked on) 20:10:18 <pbrobinson> redhat-lsb (being worked on I believe) 20:10:25 <bconoboy> BZs? 20:10:33 * pbrobinson looking already 20:10:53 <pbrobinson> java https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985811 20:11:10 <pwhalen> #info java (being worked on) 20:11:15 <bconoboy> #link java: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985811 20:11:56 <pbrobinson> #info python3 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=986713 20:12:26 <pbrobinson> can't find lsb but the maintainer has a device he's testing on in beaker 20:12:57 <pbrobinson> ghc was blocking but was cleared this morning and catching up on ghc* and friends backlog pretty quickly 20:13:18 <bconoboy> #info redhat-lsb has issues, but is being worked on by its maintainer 20:13:18 <pbrobinson> and that's it I think 20:13:24 <bconoboy> I have one other problem package 20:13:32 <bconoboy> glibc is being built with neon instructions 20:13:41 <bconoboy> this works *great* on highbank 20:13:47 <pbrobinson> :-( 20:13:50 <bconoboy> but means f20 can't be used on tegra2 20:13:54 <pbrobinson> or OLPC 20:13:59 <kylem> we're working on it 20:14:05 <bconoboy> kylem: have the bz# handy? 20:14:16 <kylem> 985342 20:14:37 <pbrobinson> can we please ensure we add all ARM bugs to the ARMTracker so they're easy to follow 20:14:43 <bconoboy> #link glibc is being built with neon, breaking tegra2/olpc: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=985342 20:14:50 <bconoboy> Adding now 20:15:01 <bconoboy> Actually, it's there 20:15:13 <bconoboy> that's it for me 20:15:17 <pbrobinson> cool, wonder why I didn't see that 20:15:32 <pwhalen> anyone have any others? 20:15:59 <dgilmore> statistics: {'older': 230, 'local_only': 0, 'remote_only': 248, 'same': 13513, 'newer': 0, 'total_missing_builds': 309} 20:16:01 <pbrobinson> no major blockers, I'm slowly working through the rest of the list and filing bugs 20:16:09 <dgilmore> thats where we are right now 20:16:29 <bconoboy> that's with pending ghc packages still to be built? 20:16:32 <pbrobinson> OK, so we're about 230 behind where f19 was at release 20:16:52 <dgilmore> bconoboy: thats with whats built of ghc 20:16:52 <pbrobinson> there's probably 100 odd of those by guestimaiton and a number blocked by java 20:17:06 <dgilmore> we were just over 300 before ghc was fixed 20:17:25 <dgilmore> and over half that was because of ghc 20:17:30 <pbrobinson> there's still quite a bit of ghc to build 20:17:42 <dgilmore> right 20:17:57 <dgilmore> we should be just over 100 when ghc is done 20:18:40 <bconoboy> so between java and ghc we'll be in good shape 20:18:43 <pbrobinson> plus remote only 20:18:50 <pbrobinson> yes, pretty much I think 20:19:05 <dgilmore> which many of the remote_only exclude arm 20:19:18 <pbrobinson> yep 20:19:42 <pbrobinson> and are things like ada/pascal that need a bring up 20:19:55 <pbrobinson> but aren't high prio 20:20:40 <pwhalen> #topic 2) Kernel Status Update 20:21:01 * ahs3 apologizes for being late, stands in the corner with a dunce hat for a bit 20:21:39 <pwhalen> this is usually pbrobinson's topic, but i guess is now kylem's 20:22:14 <pwhalen> kylem, did you want to update on 3.11? or either of you ? 20:22:16 <kylem> right, this week i've been beating tegra back into working in rawhide 20:22:38 <kylem> next up is figuring out why omap isn't working after decompressing the kernel 20:22:46 <pbrobinson> I've noticed a usb patch, should that fix the fun ssd issues? 20:23:07 <bconoboy> #info In 3.11 there is considerable breakage. Tegra is being worked on now. Next is OMAP4. 20:23:13 <pbrobinson> and kylem do you have a flyswatter? 20:23:20 <kylem> no, but i'm about to order one 20:23:27 * handsome_pirate waves from the late seat 20:23:32 <pbrobinson> kylem: ping me offline before you do 20:23:58 <kylem> ok. trimslice will be in booting shape with 3.11 once i rebuild dracut (patch is upstream now) 20:24:01 <pbrobinson> ahs3: pass the dunce hat to handsome_pirate ;-) 20:24:12 <kylem> i poked the linux-tegra guys to get them to submit the fix to 3.11-rc2 20:24:15 <kylem> s/rc2/rc3/ 20:24:29 <pbrobinson> cool 20:25:05 * handsome_pirate dons the dunce hat 20:25:23 <dgilmore> kylem: im starting a thread on the u-boot list to work on standardising features to make things simpler for us to support. one thing i want us to do is to use extlinux.conf everwhere with raw kernels and initrds 20:25:36 <dgilmore> hopefully that should simplify things for us greatly 20:25:48 <handsome_pirate> dgilmore: Could you cc me to that? 20:25:58 <kylem> ok. 20:25:58 <pbrobinson> dglimore: would that be useful for the linaro cross-distro list? 20:26:15 <dgilmore> pbrobinson: parts of it would be 20:27:02 <pwhalen> #topic 3a) Aarch64 Status Update, problem packages 20:27:05 <ahs3> +1 on linaro cross-distro list 20:27:46 <bconoboy> Biggest update for the week is that msalter got openjdk into stage4 20:28:08 <bconoboy> We have 11420/13606 packages built, 4832 of them containing aarch64 components. The build queue is currently empty. 20:28:25 <pbrobinson> nic! 20:28:27 <pbrobinson> nice! 20:28:36 <pwhalen> perhaps worth mentioning if your running the model, disable stage3 in the mock config and yum repos 20:28:45 <bconoboy> From this point forward it's a matter of identifying packages that failed to build that will succeed if requeued, and fixing packages that failed to build. 20:28:52 <bconoboy> Ah, good point 20:29:01 <bconoboy> #info 11420/13606 packages built, 4832 of them containing aarch64 components. The build queue is currently empty. 20:29:21 <bconoboy> #info about 2000 packages remain. These will require requeueing or build fixes. 20:29:38 <pbrobinson> can we remove/hide the stage3 repo if it should no longer be used? 20:29:44 <bconoboy> #info Stage 3 is retired - remove it from /etc/mock/stage4-aarch64.cfg or mock will fail 20:30:18 <bconoboy> #info Stage 3 is retired - remove /etc/yum.repos.d/stage3 or yum will produce errors 20:30:41 <bconoboy> pbrobinson: It's already hidden 20:30:52 <pbrobinson> cool 20:31:00 <bconoboy> So, we have something to discuss 20:31:10 <bconoboy> Right now stage4 is almost exclusively packages from f19 GA 20:31:19 <bconoboy> No updates 20:31:27 <bconoboy> No f20 builds 20:31:51 <pbrobinson> ok, presumably f20 will be for when we get koji 20:31:53 <bconoboy> I was hoping that we could move to F20 by moving to Koji, but dgilmore has too much on his plate to get koji setup in the near future. 20:32:08 <bconoboy> So, we have a few options: 20:32:17 <bconoboy> 1: Hang out with f19 GA srpms, fixing build failures 20:32:26 <bconoboy> 2: Bring in f19 updates to stage 4 20:32:36 <bconoboy> 3: Bring in rawhide to stage 4 20:33:03 <bconoboy> Opinions? 20:33:07 <pbrobinson> if we can wait a week or two to get f19 mass rebuild and armv7 promotion out of the way I think it's probably worth it to get it working more automated and properly 20:33:26 <bconoboy> I'm leaning toward #2 20:33:32 <ddd_> bconoboy: ah, get f19 all built ... then go to sure-to-be-broken f20 pkgs ... :-/ 20:33:55 <bconoboy> If we do #2 we'll be comingling f19 ga with f19 updates packages 20:34:01 <bconoboy> Which I don't personally mind 20:34:18 <bconoboy> But thought others might dislike. 20:34:21 <pwhalen> option 2 could potentially pull in some fixes 20:34:28 <pbrobinson> dgilmore: how long do you think koji will be/take with f19 mass rebuild etc? 20:35:43 * handsome_pirate is also leaning #2 20:35:44 <bconoboy> we could also have a stage4-updates repo 20:35:53 <bconoboy> that'd require making some changes to the infra 20:36:01 <handsome_pirate> However, it may not be a bad move to start thinking about building some rawhide critpath 20:37:21 <bconoboy> Okay, I'm going to go with #2 unless somebody stops me in the next 8 hours :-) 20:37:41 <pbrobinson> I think that works 20:37:50 <bconoboy> #action bconoboy to start building f19-updates in stage4 20:38:06 <ahs3> i'm inclined to complete #1, have the stage4-updates repo, then move to f20, just so there's a sense of finishing things off -- but i can go with option #2 also 20:38:31 <bconoboy> I don't think "completing" #1 is really feasible, it's just a question of when to move on 20:38:46 <pbrobinson> would be good to launch into f20 from koji clean using the f19 stage4 20:38:58 <bconoboy> y 20:39:22 <ahs3> bconoboy: agreed, which is why option #2 seems okay, too 20:39:23 <bconoboy> By the way, I'm importing the f19ga noarch rpms into stage4 later today. Should help with some build dependencies. We last did this in early May 20:39:34 <ddd_> bconoboy: why is #1 not feasible? ... too many bugs that updates has fixed ? 20:39:52 <bconoboy> ddd_ Hundreds of packages not yet ported. It would take man-years. 20:40:25 <ddd_> bconoboy: and f19-updates doesnt have these hundreds of pkgs? 20:40:27 <pbrobinson> what... not ga yet :-P 20:40:54 <bconoboy> ddd_: f19-updates has hundreds of packages whose version is newer, but is otherwise already built 20:41:27 <ddd_> bconoboy: never mind.... /me confused over what's built or not built btwn f19 & f19-updates... 20:41:38 <bconoboy> Some stuff that goes into f20 ends up in f19-updates, so building f19 updates gives us a partial bridge to f20 when the time comes. 20:41:45 <bconoboy> Anyway, let's move on 20:41:51 <ddd_> bconoboy: thnx 20:42:13 <pwhalen> okay, 3b was covered (aarch64 koji) 20:42:25 <pwhalen> #topic 4) Open Floor 20:42:57 <bconoboy> I would like to mention that we're talking to Compulab about their Utilite platform. If all goes well we will be able to support it in F20. 20:43:05 * handsome_pirate has something for open floor 20:43:06 <pbrobinson> kylem: status update on llvm? 20:43:16 <bconoboy> If things go astonishingly well we will be able to support it in F19 20:43:36 <pbrobinson> bconoboy: great news, it seems imx6 support in 3.11 is pretty good 20:43:36 <kylem> haven't had a chance to poke it yet given the tegra stuff 20:43:46 <pbrobinson> kylem: thx 20:43:57 <kylem> but, i rebuilt mesa against llvm 3.1, and gnome-shell worked, so we have a data point 20:44:11 <kylem> (i also fixed a pulseaudio bug that was hitting an assert() and crashing at start) 20:44:30 <kylem> gdm login doesn't work yet, but starting gnome-shell from xinitrc does 20:44:45 <pbrobinson> OK, that was working but I've not looked at audio for a while due to lack of time 20:44:49 <kylem> next step is to try to debug llvm 3.3 mcjit, and then trace gnome-session 20:45:01 <kylem> pbrobinson, it may only be on chromebook that it fails 20:45:12 <kylem> fixed now, at any rate 20:45:13 <bconoboy> #info Utilite support being investigated- check back in 4 weeks 20:45:23 <pbrobinson> excellent either way 20:45:28 * handsome_pirate has something 20:45:32 <bconoboy> #info mesa built with llvm 3.1 results in gnome-shell working 20:45:42 <handsome_pirate> Is anyone going to flock riding from RDU? 20:45:47 <handsome_pirate> (Raleigh) 20:45:56 <pbrobinson> nope, flying in via miami 20:46:31 <pbrobinson> handsome_pirate: there may be some RHers though 20:46:48 <pbrobinson> I would put a call out on the flock mailing list 20:47:10 <bconoboy> #action kylem now debugging llvm 3.3 mcjit, will then trace gnome-session 20:47:17 * handsome_pirate is all matter of frustrated atm 20:47:40 <kylem> (gnome session is hammering on a unix socket waiting on something, but i've not figured out what yet) 20:47:41 <pbrobinson> handsome_pirate: can we take flock off the meeting so we can close this out 20:48:08 <pbrobinson> kylem: I'm shocked! 20:48:34 <handsome_pirate> pbrobinson: Aye 20:48:52 <bconoboy> kylem: Love, probably. 20:48:52 <pwhalen> anything else for today? 20:49:01 <kylem> heh 20:49:04 <pwhalen> :) 20:49:33 <pbrobinson> bconoboy: LMAO! 20:49:37 <pbrobinson> nope 20:49:46 <bconoboy> "Damnit /tmp/.X11-unix/X0, why don't you love me?" 20:50:10 <ahs3> you make that sound so *sultry*.... 20:50:16 <bconoboy> pwhalen: I think we're done ;-) 20:50:31 <pwhalen> sound good material here though :) 20:50:36 <pwhalen> #endmeeting