f17_beta_go_no_go_meeting
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#fedora-meeting-1: F17 Beta Go No Go Meeting

Meeting started by rbergeron at 21:00:27 UTC (full logs).

Meeting summary

  1. Roll Call (rbergeron, 21:00:39)
    1. adamw, rbergero, tflink, brunowolff present (rbergeron, 21:01:36)

  2. Agenda (rbergeron, 21:02:03)
    1. Welcome to the F17 Go/No-Go meeting. Purpose of this meeting is to determine whether the release criteria are met for the impending release of F17 Beta! WOO (rbergeron, 21:02:36)
    2. Here we check ot see if validation tests for this release (F17 Beta) are completed, verify there are no unaddressed accepted blocker bugs in the release candidate, etc. (rbergeron, 21:03:10)
    3. And now we shall dissect this in excruciating detail (tm, adamw.) (rbergeron, 21:03:27)

  3. Blockers (rbergeron, 21:03:33)
    1. http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Current_Release_Blockers (rbergeron, 21:03:43)
    2. validation of rc1 is reasonably close to complete, there are gaps in the matrix but we know it's not releasable, has several blockers. (rbergeron, 21:06:52)

  4. (807397) updates.img images do not work on live installs since the new format (tflink, 21:11:50)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807397 (tflink, 21:11:53)
    2. Proposed Blocker, POST (tflink, 21:11:56)
    3. AGREED: - 807397 - AcceptedBlocker - Violates the beta criterion "The installer must be able to use an installer update image retrieved from removable media, remote installation source and HTTP server" for live images (tflink, 21:14:11)

  5. (807003) Booting F17 Beta RC1 installer in basic video with radeon falls back to text mode (tflink, 21:14:20)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807003 (tflink, 21:14:23)
    2. Proposed Blocker, MODIFIED (tflink, 21:14:25)
    3. AGREED: - 807003 - RejectedBlocker - While this does mostly hit the alpha criterion "The boot menu for all installation images should include an entry which causes both installation and the installed system to use a generic, highly compatible video driver (such as 'vesa'). This mechanism should work correctly, launching the installer and attempting to use the generic driver", this is very HW specific and therefore not considered to be a blocker (tflink, 21:21:03)

  6. (807083) iscsi tools do not exist on F17 beta RC1 DVDs (tflink, 21:22:33)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807083 (tflink, 21:22:33)
    2. Proposed NTH, ASSIGNED (tflink, 21:22:33)
    3. AGREED: - 807083 - AcceptedNTH - This would be a final blocker and has a fix ready to go (tflink, 21:25:43)

  7. (749235) No method for setting e.g. media size (tflink, 21:26:17)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=749235 (tflink, 21:26:17)
    2. Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 21:26:17)
    3. AGREED: - 749235 - RejectedNTH - Printing from beta live images seems unlikely and this fix would work well as an update (tflink, 21:29:05)

  8. (805813) the seventh test (random number sequence) fails at about 129 MiB (tflink, 21:29:19)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805813 (tflink, 21:29:22)
    2. Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 21:29:25)
    3. AGREED: - 805813 - AcceptedNTH - This would be a final blocker, can't be fixed with an update and it would be nice to have a working memtest on the beta images (tflink, 21:30:56)

  9. (805902) Scrollwheels on tablets are broken (tflink, 21:31:08)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=805902 (tflink, 21:31:08)
    2. Proposed NTH, MODIFIED (tflink, 21:31:08)
    3. AGREED: - 805902 - AcceptedNTH - This is a visible annoyance that would be nice to not have, fix has been tested (tflink, 21:34:48)

  10. (807457) systemd-units %preun wipes /etc/systemd/system/default.target when updating to the systemd that obsoletes it, breaking boot on non-graphical installs (tflink, 21:37:02)
    1. http://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807457 (tflink, 21:37:06)
    2. Proposed NTH, ON_QA (tflink, 21:37:08)
    3. AGREED: - 807457 - AcceptedNTH - This is reasonably easy to work around but does smewhat break non-graphical upgrades from 16 to 17 (tflink, 21:40:13)

  11. Blockers (tflink, 21:41:14)
  12. To Go or Not To Go (rbergeron, 21:43:17)
    1. AGREED: We are no-go on RC1; we have outstanding blockers that need to be pulled into a second RC. (rbergeron, 21:46:34)
    2. http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi (rbergeron, 21:56:15)
    3. AGREED: we will do the hero's effort for RC2, will finish this meeting starting 1 hour before readiness meeting tomorrow (rbergeron, 22:05:59)

  13. Please continue to hold (rbergeron, 22:06:13)
    1. https://fedorahosted.org/rel-eng/ticket/5141#comment:2 (robatino, 00:47:33)
    2. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=808039 (Sugar-desktop not on DVD repo (not using on line repos) Will repeat this test to verify (satellit_, 12:14:57)

  14. Ending Meeting (rbergeron, 18:17:08)
    1. We did RC2; we now have 2 outstanding blockers, 806466 and 802475 (rbergeron, 18:17:33)
    2. QA is no-go; PM is also no-go (rbergeron, 18:17:42)
    3. nirik pasted his no-go-ness above previously (rbergeron, 18:18:50)
    4. AGREED: We are officially no-go; Beta will be delayed by one week to April 10 (rbergeron, 18:18:59)

  15. Wrapping up (rbergeron, 18:19:03)
    1. ACTION: rbergeron to send notification of delay and update schedule in the next few hrs (rbergeron, 18:19:22)
    2. Longest meeting ever. good job! (rbergeron, 18:20:24)


Meeting ended at 18:21:47 UTC (full logs).

Action items

  1. rbergeron to send notification of delay and update schedule in the next few hrs


Action items, by person

  1. rbergeron
    1. rbergeron to send notification of delay and update schedule in the next few hrs


People present (lines said)

  1. rbergeron (124)
  2. adamw (118)
  3. tflink (99)
  4. j_dulaney (55)
  5. nirik (30)
  6. brunowolff (26)
  7. dgilmore (11)
  8. ianweller (9)
  9. zodbot (7)
  10. satellit_ (5)
  11. KageSenshi (1)
  12. robatino (1)


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