fedora_marketing_meeting
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20:00:17 <rbergeron> #startmeeting Fedora Marketing
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20:00:28 <rbergeron> #meetingname Fedora Marketing Meeting
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20:00:47 <rbergeron> #chair stickster
20:00:47 <zodbot> Current chairs: rbergeron stickster
20:02:17 <rbergeron> okay.
20:02:22 <rbergeron> #topic roll call!
20:02:28 * ke4zvu3 is here
20:02:30 * NourishedCloud is
20:02:30 * ke4qqq 
20:02:30 * gwerra is kinda here
20:02:56 * rbergeron is kind of here as well ;)
20:03:05 * stickster 
20:03:10 <bruce89> hello
20:03:19 <rbergeron> I've been pretty much out of town for the past... weekish
20:03:28 <rbergeron> hi bruce89 - welcome :)
20:03:33 <rbergeron> first marketing meeting?
20:03:40 * wonderer 
20:04:04 <rbergeron> #topic Agenda - http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_meetings#Agenda
20:04:29 <bruce89> rbergeron: it is, I'll behave
20:04:52 <rbergeron> bruce89: awesome. I have no worries :) what brings you here?
20:05:21 <bruce89> I can't say I know really
20:05:28 <rbergeron> Agenda for today - We have some trac tickets to cover, although I'm not sure who is here atm who can speak to some of them
20:05:56 <rbergeron> bruce89: well, we're delighted to have you here - if you see anything that looks interesting that you'd like to work on, pipe up :)
20:06:16 <rbergeron> We also have some discussion topics today -
20:06:22 <bruce89> shall do, thanks
20:06:22 <rbergeron> Microblogging - How we should conduct ourselves (reactions to [[1]])
20:06:25 <rbergeron> Fedora in the UK - Aims for F14
20:06:26 <stickster> rbergeron: Looks like most ticket holders are here if I read right
20:06:58 <rbergeron> well, one way to find out :)
20:07:04 <rbergeron> #topic Trac Tickets
20:07:15 <rbergeron> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/33 - Update pages on Free Media distribution
20:07:27 <bruce89> ah, that's what it was, UK
20:07:38 <rbergeron> yn1v has this - I believe it's still on hold a little bit until yn1v has more time.
20:08:15 * rbergeron would like to add that if you haven't read about all the release parties that yn1v has been attending in central america, you should - and it's awesome to read about the turnout they have been seeing there.
20:08:32 <rbergeron> Most of those stories have been on planet.fedoraproject.org in yn1v's blog.
20:08:39 <NourishedCloud> got a link for that rbergeron?
20:08:40 <NourishedCloud> ah
20:09:06 <rbergeron> nourishedcloud: if they're not in the feed visibly at the moment, yn1v is aka Neville Cross - you can find his name in the side bar.
20:09:29 * NourishedCloud nods
20:09:35 <rbergeron> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/35 - F13 release events Marketing
20:09:53 <rbergeron> nourishedcloud I believe that one is you - any ideas, or need help?
20:10:22 <NourishedCloud> not much to report on that, currently infiltrating the ambassadors (I wasn't a member previously) and having an email exchange with Paul Mellors about it
20:10:49 <NourishedCloud> should have more to say by the next meeting
20:10:54 <rbergeron> Excellent
20:11:07 <rbergeron> Yes, that discussion is a little hard to have when you aren't on the ambassadors mailing list
20:11:29 <NourishedCloud> Indeed! There was a bit of talk about it in the IRC room though...
20:11:36 <rbergeron> Do you have a sponsor and everything?
20:11:58 <NourishedCloud> people seem to like the idea of it running more smoothly so I'll email the list and see what comes up
20:12:09 <NourishedCloud> yes
20:12:17 <rbergeron> cool.
20:12:29 <rbergeron> I'll keep it on the list for next week - we can see how it's going.
20:12:44 <rbergeron> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/107 - Brand Book / Story book
20:12:52 <rbergeron> ianweller, you around?
20:13:23 <ianweller> yes.
20:13:42 <rbergeron> I know you said you had talked with Max a bit about the idea of doing a FAD to do a brand / story book.
20:14:09 <rbergeron> Can you perhaps update this ticket with some stuff about what he would like to see in terms of a plan
20:14:17 <ianweller> yeah i'll do that in a bit.
20:14:23 <rbergeron> so that we can start getting a group around planning those bits?
20:14:34 <rbergeron> Can i assign the ticket to you temporarily :)
20:14:39 <ianweller> i'll just take it
20:14:57 <rbergeron> #action ianweller to update ticket 107 with some info on FAD planning - what needs to happen before we can do a brand book FAD?
20:15:07 <rbergeron> #action ianweller to take #107 as well, thank you sir
20:15:18 <ianweller> done.
20:15:21 <rbergeron> thanks :)
20:15:31 <rbergeron> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/114 - Mktg Postmortem
20:15:50 <gwerra> 
20:15:56 <rbergeron> I volunteered to finish this last week, and haven't had a second to sit down and actually do that.
20:15:58 * stickster prefers to call these "Retrospective"
20:16:08 <stickster> since "post mortem" == "after death" which clearly did not happen :-)
20:16:13 <rbergeron> yes, i agree
20:16:14 <rbergeron> lol
20:16:24 <rbergeron> we'll have to change the links in the wiki to do so
20:16:29 <rbergeron> in the marketing deliverables
20:16:38 <rbergeron> As well as the SOP
20:16:43 <rbergeron> and so forth
20:17:03 * rbergeron wonders if stickster was just volunteering for that :)
20:17:14 <rbergeron> although - I'm pretty sure stickster's a bit swamped atm
20:17:33 <rbergeron> if anyone else is interested in taking a look at some wiki pages and fixing a few things - this would be a good opportunity to do so.
20:17:59 <stickster> rbergeron: Do we have a place where the problems that we noted during Marketing work for F13 are written down?
20:18:34 <rbergeron> stickster: we noted most of that stuff in the Marketing Postmo^H^H^H^H^H^H Retrospective meeting we had a few weeks ago.
20:18:41 <NourishedCloud> I can fix wiki things if you make a list
20:18:42 <rbergeron> That is linked off of the marketing meetings minutes archive page.
20:18:56 * stickster realizes he's in a time warp and catches up
20:18:59 <NourishedCloud> or if there is a list already
20:19:14 <rbergeron> so - I'm needing at this point to take those meeting notes and capture them on an actual wiki page
20:19:45 <rbergeron> Nourishedcloud: let's do this - I'll make a ticket with some links where we want to swap out the word postmortem
20:19:50 <rbergeron> and swap in retrospective instead
20:19:57 <rbergeron> and send it to you - and you can work your way through that list.
20:19:59 <rbergeron> Does that work?
20:20:09 <rbergeron> stickster, did you have anything you wanted to add here?
20:20:15 <stickster> I'm good, thanks rbergeron
20:20:31 <NourishedCloud> rbergeron: OK, you can assign it straight to me then when it's made :
20:20:37 <NourishedCloud> :) even
20:20:46 <rbergeron> excellent.
20:20:53 * rbergeron will do that immediately following meeting
20:21:14 <rbergeron> #action rbergeron to create new ticket, assign to nourishedcloud/reality - locations of swapping out "postmortem" for "retrospective"
20:21:32 <rbergeron> #action nourishedcloud to do the swapping
20:22:26 <rbergeron> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/37 - Release Events Poster
20:23:08 <rbergeron> #info Discussed last week that we'd probably merge this with https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/35 (release events marketing) at some point - I'm hanging on to it until we get more detail / roadmap on #35.
20:23:35 <rbergeron> #topic https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/63 - Timeless / Generic Slogan
20:23:45 <rbergeron> stickster: I believe this one is yours....
20:24:10 <stickster> rbergeron: Yes -- today's design meeting was supposed to touch on fp.o redesign but I haven't read its log yet
20:24:21 <rbergeron> Okay.
20:24:23 <stickster> rbergeron: This is more of a medium-term ticket
20:24:28 <rbergeron> Is this something we want to keep in the weekly ticket list?
20:24:34 <rbergeron> ah, you're thinking what i'm thinking, i think
20:24:35 <stickster> I'd suggest marking it for a biweekly update
20:24:40 * stickster will do that
20:24:49 <stickster> #action stickster Update ticket #63 biweekly
20:24:56 <rbergeron> thank you!
20:25:22 <rbergeron> I believe that covers the trac tickets.
20:25:29 <rbergeron> #topic Microblogging - How we should conduct ourselves (reactions to [[1]])
20:25:49 <rbergeron> #link http://dinosaur-os.com/post/691754809/fedora-microblogging
20:26:08 <ke4qqq> has that not already been dealt with the SOP, or do I not get it?
20:26:28 <NourishedCloud> I thought it would be a good idea to see what people thought about it, ke4qqq
20:26:34 <NourishedCloud> I summarised the points made here
20:26:37 <NourishedCloud> #link http://reality.fedorapeople.org/microblogging.html
20:26:44 * ke4qqq goes to read
20:26:48 <rbergeron> nourishedcloud: what are the issues here
20:26:58 * rbergeron hasn't read this yet - being gone kind of makes that difficult
20:27:37 <rbergeron> So - a few points I see here
20:27:39 <NourishedCloud> We need to make sure we're not annoying people with issues of software freedom, some people seem slightly dubious about Twitter and even more so about using hootsuite to manage it. But having said that I don't really know what we could use as an alternative
20:27:41 <bruce89> well, I agree that identi.ca should be the primary channel
20:27:49 <rbergeron> Well - I think we agreed on that.
20:27:57 <rbergeron> The issue is that we're working on getting the identi.ca account
20:28:03 <bruce89> aw, that's about as expert as I could get, och well
20:28:05 <rbergeron> I don't htink anyone here would argue that.
20:28:07 <stickster> I also thought we had a page to take care of this topic
20:28:14 <rbergeron> bruce89: it's appreciated nonetheless.
20:28:15 <rbergeron> :)
20:28:22 <ke4qqq> so talking about rpmfusion and mp3 is essentially verboten unless you are pointing out ogg is superior and mp3 is patent encumbered
20:28:26 <bruce89> rbergeron: heh
20:28:46 <NourishedCloud> and gbraad, who can't be here, asked us to decide what exactly we're going to do with foreign languages
20:29:15 <rbergeron> Was any of this posted to the mailing list?
20:29:21 <NourishedCloud> not yet
20:29:21 <rbergeron> That this discussion was going on?
20:29:23 <ke4qqq> stickster: is this what you are thinking of? https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_SOP
20:29:30 <stickster> ke4qqq: yes
20:29:54 * stickster points out to NourishedCloud the old mchua rule: "If it didn't happen on the list, it didn't happen." :-)
20:30:02 <NourishedCloud> ah.. sorry about that
20:30:21 <rbergeron> I think it would be helpful to have it on the list - it's really hard with people in different time zones, different schedules to catch things on planet feeds
20:30:40 <rbergeron> and while I'd love to say that I actively read every single person's blog posts every day - there are about 1 or 2 days a year that I miss something
20:30:43 <NourishedCloud> rbergeron: ok, would you like me to send a message to the list about it after the meeting?
20:30:44 <rbergeron> :)
20:30:49 <stickster> And occasionally people declare "RSS bankruptcy" and wouldn't see whole swaths of things :-)
20:30:58 <rbergeron> I think that woudl be a great idea - but I don't want to rehash some of the things that we've already agreed on.
20:31:18 <rbergeron> ke4zvu3: you've been taking the reins on most of this microblogging stuff - what are your thoughts?
20:31:28 <NourishedCloud> I know some things are already agreed, it was more to get an idea of how strongly people felt about certain things as well
20:32:00 <ke4zvu3> yeah i remember discussing this the other day with nourished cloud
20:32:18 <ke4zvu3> in #fedora-mktg. as far as my thoughts, i'll list them point by point
20:32:23 <ke4zvu3> #link http://reality.fedorapeople.org/microblogging.html
20:33:10 <rbergeron> #chair ke4zvu3
20:33:10 <zodbot> Current chairs: ke4zvu3 rbergeron stickster
20:33:14 <rbergeron> #chair nourishedcloud
20:33:14 <zodbot> Current chairs: ke4zvu3 nourishedcloud rbergeron stickster
20:33:40 <ke4zvu3> 1:  yeah i think that's been the plan all along and was first mentioned i think in the Marketing FAD a while back.  Hootsuite is great for what it does, but it is neither open nor does it allow identi.ca management.
20:34:31 <ke4zvu3> 2: that's a good point, but that's where a central tool, like unto HootSuite, allows one to respond to feedback via identi.ca only, twitter only, or both.
20:34:56 <stickster> wrt 1. We can originate uBlogs on identi.ca, and they propagate to Twitter. We'll set up @fedora on identi.ca to do so.
20:35:19 <ke4zvu3> 3: Great idea but like ke4qqq pointed out, the non-free examples probably are not the best examples to use. :-)  I think the target audience on and suggested tweet/dent content on the SOP fits in with that
20:35:42 <ke4zvu3> but then again, I could see someone raising the argument of a different user base/target audience for identi.ca then twitter....
20:35:46 * ke4zvu3 tries to avoid the pandora's box
20:36:02 <ke4zvu3> 4: great idea, that's been the plan. i still actively try to do that in hootsuite now.
20:36:13 <rbergeron> ke4zvu3: yeah, that is pandora's box fo sho :)
20:36:15 <ke4zvu3> 5: yup, the SOP starts to address that
20:37:24 <rbergeron> Has anyone investigated the existence of either (a) a free as in freedom tool, or (b) something that will allow us to connect indenti.ca and twitter more interactively?
20:37:25 <ke4zvu3> 6: major #agreed  also seems like a massive issue to tackle. i don't know where to begin except to say that we ought to address non-english speakers if possible. but don't know that we feasibly can unless there's delay for translation, etc...
20:37:50 <stickster> rbergeron: Yes, neither exists right now in a way that allows us to manage access to both the T and i.c accounts.
20:38:07 <stickster> without giving out the password everywhere, and that's an immediate fail security-wise.
20:38:11 <rbergeron> right.
20:38:20 <stickster> ke4zvu3: My perspective on 6 is that codifying l10n in our SOP doesn't make sense. The lingua franca of the Fedora Project is en_US, and we encourage any community members to translate content for their
20:38:24 <stickster> locales.
20:38:49 <NourishedCloud> well if we are using the microblogging accounts for interactive uses rather than just announcements then we could have different teams in charge of different language-accounts
20:38:50 <rbergeron> I know there has been a lot of discussion about enabling something that would feed to both via some sort of scripting method - but I think that will pen us in in terms of having more of an interactive relationship with our followers.
20:39:08 <NourishedCloud> they don't have to just be translating and mirroring each other
20:39:09 <stickster> NourishedCloud: Locking those things up on approved teams is a road to madness and bureaucracy
20:39:10 <ke4qqq> +1 - besides we are struggling to do a good job in en_US atm, trying to tack on extra languages until we get that sorted seems like a bad thing
20:39:11 <ke4zvu3> stickster: ok that sounds reasonable. it would seem like a major precedent/philosophy change
20:39:24 <stickster> ke4zvu3: In what way?
20:39:28 <rbergeron> Nourishedcloud: something similar to branching outwards - translating the top-level things we are feeding outwards - and then handling localization info more or less on its own.
20:39:42 <NourishedCloud> and there is regional news as well
20:40:09 <bruce89> my area of expertise (if you can call it that) is en_GB
20:40:30 <rbergeron> Is this something where we could look to / encourage local ambassadors to manage their own twitter / identi.ca feeds?
20:40:41 <ke4zvu3> stickster: i meant that upon further reflection, doing anything other than what you mentioned is a break from precedent of "localized teams who want to translate can"
20:40:41 <rbergeron> And just trust that they will be excellent in their standards?
20:40:53 <stickster> ke4zvu3: Ah, I see
20:40:57 <rbergeron> Not htat we would want to prevent them from doing so anyhow - and certainly a number of them do so?
20:41:21 <NourishedCloud> rbergeron: more reason for very very clear guidelines... I just wonder how big the pool of people with post permissions should be
20:41:25 <stickster> ke4zvu3: Sorry, I got confused :-D
20:41:50 <ke4qqq> rbergeron: brand dilution not a concern
20:42:02 <stickster> rbergeron: I think it's a bad idea to tell people to set up separate feeds.
20:42:16 <rbergeron> people in other countries?
20:42:21 <stickster> rbergeron: Right
20:42:45 <stickster> I think the ideal situation is to have everyone subscribed to @fedora, and then they can RT or translate to their friends using a hashtag
20:42:56 <stickster> Heck, we could establish a new precedent
20:43:11 <rbergeron> Well - that's precisely what I'm saying
20:43:28 <stickster> "L10N @fedora Ixnay onay ethay osedclay ourcesay"
20:43:37 <ke4zvu3> haha
20:43:39 <stickster> Look at that, I just invented a new trend for ublogging
20:43:43 <NourishedCloud> people don't follow hashtags though they follow accounts
20:44:05 <stickster> NourishedCloud: Right, but lots of people use tools for searches
20:44:08 <bruce89> or groups
20:44:13 <stickster> bruce89: Yup
20:44:54 <rbergeron> So - without dragging on on this stuff
20:45:23 <rbergeron> #action nourishedcloud to post link to discussion on mailing list so we can all be in on the loop
20:45:45 <rbergeron> I think we should tackle one thing at a time here - not try to solve all problems at once
20:45:52 <ke4zvu3> #agreed
20:46:03 <stickster> rbergeron: +1. And do something rather than wait to achieve perfection.
20:46:13 <NourishedCloud> not sure I agree with the language stuff but I'll complain about that later ;)
20:46:42 <stickster> Mainly, what I'm interested in is knowing that we are ready to start transitioning people to @fedora after the RH Summit, and that we have a plan for what content will start appearing there.
20:46:45 <rbergeron> So - how to prioritize here
20:47:34 <rbergeron> yes.
20:47:40 <rbergeron> to stickster's comments
20:48:41 <ke4zvu3> i think stickster already outlined a great plan for transition on the mailing list
20:48:44 <rbergeron> Does anyone have any thoughts after that - or do we want to get that house in order, and then return to list to tackle individual items based on feedback we're getting?
20:48:53 <stickster> ke4zvu3: thanks, it came from smarter people fortunately :-)
20:48:57 <ke4qqq> ke4zvu3: link?
20:49:01 <rbergeron> ke4zvu3: i agree
20:49:20 <ke4qqq> for those of us that have been time-impaired over the past week
20:49:30 <ke4qqq> and the logs
20:49:41 <stickster> ke4qqq: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-June/013003.html
20:49:47 <rbergeron> ke4qqq: we discussed a lot of this... in last weeks' meeting
20:49:56 <ke4zvu3> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/marketing/2010-June/013003.html
20:49:56 <rbergeron> logs are posted... i'll get the link
20:49:59 * ke4qqq goes to read and stay out of the way
20:50:03 <ke4zvu3> rbergeron: indeed we did
20:50:06 <stickster> But I defer to meeting notes if someone overrode that :-)
20:50:24 <rbergeron> #link http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting-1/2010-06-08/fedora_marketing.2010-06-08-20.00.html
20:50:39 <stickster> Yup, looks like we agreed on what's in that email, ke4qqq
20:50:41 <rbergeron> I don't know that we have a plan as far as content
20:50:43 <ke4zvu3> as far as what content appears here, i think that's the topic of nourishedcloud's 3rd point on his page and also the SOP
20:50:57 <rbergeron> maybe we do and i'm just verrrry sleepy and can't remember
20:51:26 <rbergeron> but if we don't: I think that should be the next plan of attack.
20:51:33 <ke4zvu3> #agreed
20:52:02 <rbergeron> I think for now - as discussed in the meeting - we're going to stick with hootsuite until something better magically appears, simply because it allows us to be more interactive, and allows us to have more controlled access to privileges
20:52:06 <stickster> pssst... #agreed makes zodbot log, so it's best not to use it unless you're marking that everyone agrees to something, and what it is :-)
20:52:21 <NourishedCloud> I'll have a look to see if there's something free-er anywhere
20:52:32 <stickster> '/me agrees' is good though, or '+1' :-)
20:52:34 <rbergeron> If someone is really interested in making a toolset that would work better - that is great, although certainly that would be a long-term process
20:52:45 <ke4zvu3> stickster: duly noted, did not know that. very interesting. thanks!
20:52:47 <rbergeron> and we're not going to defer what we can do until that happens
20:53:11 <rbergeron> and I agree with nourishedcloud - i'm sure we've all done some searching for a free / better tool, but it never hurts to look again.
20:53:29 <rbergeron> Nourishedcloud: can you let us know next week what you find, if anything?
20:53:34 * NourishedCloud nods
20:53:50 <stickster> rbergeron: I think the thing to do for next week is to make sure that https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_SOP#Ways_to_Use_Twitter has a set of information that shows what we intend to put on the feed.
20:53:56 <rbergeron> #action Nourishedcloud to check out existence of free tools for microblogging.
20:54:29 <rbergeron> Who is interested in working out the item stickster just mentioned? ke4zvu3? anyone else?
20:54:42 * NourishedCloud will if no one else wants to
20:54:45 <rbergeron> stickster?
20:54:48 <stickster> And it shouldn't be limited to technical info -- there's also "Hey, look at this great community event that the Romanians held," or "Here's a great design in the works for FeatureFoo's new UI"
20:54:57 <stickster> rbergeron: I'll work on it after this meeting
20:55:04 <stickster> #action stickster update https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_SOP#Ways_to_Use_Twitter with more details
20:56:21 <rbergeron> #info address more of the language-translation issues as we get further into our process.
20:56:28 <rbergeron> #info along with anything else that comes up. :)
20:57:03 <rbergeron> We have one last agenda item i'd like to cover - are we covered here on microblogging stuff for this week?
20:57:38 <rbergeron> #topic Fedora in the UK - Aims for F14
20:58:01 <rbergeron> Nourishedcloud - I believe you added this one as well
20:58:10 <NourishedCloud> yes, I just thought I'd ask about this....
20:58:24 <rbergeron> Ask away :)
20:59:05 <NourishedCloud> I've been hanging around in #fedora-uk and there is a lot of talk about there not being a real UK fedora community even though there are a lot of fedora users and a lot of ambassadors. some were talking about a big central release event for f14 to try and kick start the community
20:59:37 <NourishedCloud> there is a lot of talking about how there is a lack of stuff happening in the UK in fedora-uk, but not a lot of actually doing stuff
20:59:55 <NourishedCloud> or is this something to pursue in the ambassador sphere more?
21:00:13 <rbergeron> Yes - definitely ambassadors - and definitely talk to moodoo
21:00:24 <rbergeron> I'm not sure who else would be a good point person in the UK - ke4qqq, any ideas?
21:00:39 <ke4qqq> Moodoo?
21:01:03 <ke4qqq> and there's one other person in the uk
21:01:09 <rbergeron> ke4qqq: yeah, i mentioned that one ;) and nourishedcloud is already talking with him
21:01:14 <ke4qqq> whose name escapes me, but Paul Mellors could tell us
21:01:31 <NourishedCloud> ok, thanks, I'll ask about that in ambassadors then :)
21:01:33 <ke4qqq> he sponsored this younger individual in Ambassadors, so I know they know each other
21:01:47 <nb> oh, i forgot i was going to work on a twitter updating script
21:02:24 <rbergeron> Alright.
21:02:29 <rbergeron> #topic Open Floor
21:02:29 <nb> is that still needed?
21:02:32 <rbergeron> Anyone else have anything?
21:02:57 <nb> my idea was a script on people1 that is only executable by members of the fedora-socialmedia group
21:03:02 <rbergeron> nb: I think that's opening a can of worms - but if you have ideas on how to do it / what you think could be done, i'd suggest putting a proposal in a wiki page
21:03:10 <rbergeron> And requesting feedback on the mailing list
21:03:15 <nb> ive found a few scripts that might work, but need to test them
21:03:28 <rbergeron> Anc keep in mind that we need to hae interactivity with the people following us
21:03:32 <NourishedCloud> does fas have an api?
21:03:55 <rbergeron> For now - we're going with hootsuite
21:04:17 <nb> NourishedCloud, we wouldn't need one, the script would just be chgrp'ed to that group, and only chmod 710
21:04:18 <rbergeron> If someone comes up with something better that works - dandy :)
21:04:34 <nb> rbergeron, yeah, i'll look into it, but not sure what i'll come up with
21:04:53 <rbergeron> nb: nourishedcloud is going to be looking into what other tools that might exist that are free
21:05:20 <nb> ok
21:05:26 <rbergeron> if you want to help out - you might chat with him a bit :)
21:05:29 <rbergeron> Anyone else have anything?
21:05:37 <rbergeron> Since we're over the clock here :)
21:05:51 <rbergeron> okay then!
21:05:56 <rbergeron> Thanks for coming all. :)
21:06:00 * rbergeron counts down from 87
21:06:14 <rbergeron> #endmeeting