20:01:35 <mchua> #startmeeting
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20:01:44 <mchua> #meetingname fedora marketing weekly meeting
20:01:44 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fedora_marketing_weekly_meeting'
20:01:47 <mchua> #topic roll call
20:01:49 <mchua> Who's around?
20:01:53 * stickster 
20:02:04 * ke4zvu3 is
20:02:09 * gbinns 
20:02:19 <rbergeron> here's my meeting.
20:02:21 * rbergeron is here
20:02:48 * gwerra is half here
20:03:02 <mchua> Awesome. So:
20:03:07 <mizmo> yo
20:03:17 * rbergeron has another agenda item to add
20:03:25 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/query?status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&keywords=%7Emeeting&order=priority
20:03:31 <mchua> rbergeron: go for it.
20:03:37 <rbergeron> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_sop
20:03:41 <rbergeron> we can get to it in a bit
20:03:58 <rbergeron> the ke4 crowd can run with that one. :)
20:03:58 <mchua> Ok. Here's the agenda in addition to Twitter stuff.
20:04:15 <MarkDude> .fas markdude
20:04:15 <zodbot> MarkDude: markdude 'Mark Terranova' <mark@gidgetkitchen.org>
20:04:53 <mchua> 84Write a HOWTO press release workflow together with Red Hat PRmeetingnewenhancementmajor
20:05:00 <mchua> ...ouch, trac copypaste is awful.
20:05:01 <stickster> heh, nice
20:05:16 <rbergeron> lol
20:05:43 <mchua> * Write a HOWTO press release workflow together with Red Hat PR	meeting
20:05:46 <mchua> * F13 Feature Profiles
20:05:49 <mchua> * F13 Beta One Page Release Notes
20:05:51 <mchua> * Marketing FAD followup
20:05:54 <mchua> * Fedora Marketing Press Kit
20:05:56 <mchua> * Zonker's classroom session: follow-up
20:05:59 <mchua> * Draft a marketing research timeline for the remainder of F13
20:06:01 <mchua> * Twitter SOP
20:06:04 <mchua> THERE WE GO
20:06:06 <mchua> Now!
20:06:15 <mchua> #topic press release howto
20:06:33 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/84
20:06:44 <mchua> I'd like to skip this and set a next-action for me to ping Kara on it.
20:06:44 <mchua> So.
20:06:51 <mchua> #action mchua ping kara on https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/84
20:06:54 <mchua> Next!
20:07:03 <mchua> #topic F13 feature profiles
20:07:08 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/91
20:07:11 <mchua> stickster, feeling good about these?
20:07:26 <stickster> mchua: Fantastic.
20:07:38 <stickster> We had three great feature profiles for this release, which was precisely the target I wanted to hit.
20:07:52 <mchua> #info We are great on feature profiles - target was 3, we had 3.
20:08:00 <mchua> I know we've talked about for F14...
20:08:01 <stickster> mchua: I can grab links
20:08:05 * ianweller waves
20:08:13 <mchua> #idea have earlier/rolling feature profiles for F14
20:08:18 <mchua> (something like that, only better-phrased)
20:08:36 <stickster> http://press.redhat.com/2010/05/10/making-3d-free-for-innovation-fedora-13-graphics-drivers/ <-- latest PR
20:08:44 <rbergeron> WOOT
20:09:01 <stickster> #agreed Let's tweet/dent/etc. that link up
20:09:25 <mchua> I am therefore closing that ticket.
20:09:39 <ke4zvu3> it was already tweeted yesterday by someone
20:10:20 <mchua> Anything else on feature profiles? Else, next topic.
20:10:24 * mchua looks around
20:10:28 <mchua> #topic one page release notes
20:10:30 <rbergeron> keep on tweetin!
20:10:31 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/91
20:10:39 <rbergeron> mel and i are knocking that out... riiiiight... now.
20:10:41 <mchua> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/F13_one_page_release_notes
20:10:52 <mchua> #info rbergeron and mchua are hacking out one-pager in gobby right now, and #fedora-mktg
20:10:56 <mchua> (company welcomed)
20:11:01 <rbergeron> feel free to come to gobby and join us in the quest for "how can we possibly word this differently after we have typed it 4 billion times in other documents"
20:11:04 <stickster> heh
20:11:10 <mchua> We're in need of screenshots, but I think the content is preeeeeetty much... as good as we can get it, or quite close.
20:11:29 <mchua> Note that "as good as we can get it" may be "bluhhhhh" due to rbergeron's aforementioned "we have been staring at this too long" comment.
20:11:39 <mchua> so - people with fresh eyes, this would be a GREAT thing to check over.
20:11:46 <mchua> ianweller, I'm looking at your copyediting skillz here.
20:11:48 <rbergeron> we have some screenshots in nelson's stuff.
20:11:48 <mchua> and ke4zvu3.
20:11:54 <ianweller> mmcuh oh. ;)
20:11:58 <ianweller> oops at tab completion
20:12:01 <ianweller> mchua: uh oh. ;)
20:12:10 <rbergeron> but... moer screenshots lovin would be awesome.
20:12:27 <mchua> #info more screenshot help for one-page release notes much appreciated!
20:12:30 <ianweller> mchua: the one page release notes?
20:12:39 <mether> stickster, is there going to be a pr blog on btrfs profile
20:12:45 <mchua> ianweller: yes sir. We should have final text within... probably 2 hours, likely less. I'll ping ya.
20:12:45 * stickster will try to help with screenshots but can't promise he won't get stuffed on time
20:12:49 <stickster> mether: There is not.
20:12:51 <ianweller> mchua: sweet action
20:13:13 <stickster> mether: But it *is* eligible for us to cover later in a content feed on Insight, assuming we make more progress on it post-GA
20:13:27 <mether> stickster, we should send out announcement now to the usual places?
20:13:57 <stickster> mether: You mean, ask Docs, devel, etc. to review?
20:14:11 <mether> yes so that we can send it out later to lxer, lwn etc
20:14:21 <stickster> mether: Agreed, can we #action you for that?
20:14:28 <mether> sure
20:14:31 <rbergeron> same with SSSD profile - it could use some post-f13, FI, etc. passing on.
20:14:42 <rbergeron> particularly since the developer sought us out for our marketing-foo-help.
20:14:48 <stickster> mchua: ^^^
20:14:59 * stickster has no chair here, methinks
20:15:04 <mchua> mether: do you want to do that as well?
20:15:13 <mchua> stickster: anyone can #action. ianweller proved that last July when he #actioned himself a banana.
20:15:13 <mether> ok
20:15:24 <stickster> Oh cool!
20:15:40 <ianweller> lol i remember that
20:15:43 <mchua> #action mether ask Docs, devel, etc. to review btrfs, sssd feature profiles before sending to lxer, lwn, etc
20:15:58 <ianweller> i didn't expect it to end up in the log (:
20:16:04 <mchua> Okeydokey. Anything else on the one-pager or feature profiles?
20:16:06 <stickster> #action mether Send announcement wiki page link to other teams to review and edit. Final edits need to have a final due date of 2010-05-15 so there's time to edit and polish if needed.
20:16:08 <mchua> ianweller: dude, I thought it was *awesome*
20:16:14 <mchua> stickster: Oh. Your action is better!
20:16:16 <mchua> Anyhoo.
20:16:21 <mchua> Yay for better-phrased actions!
20:16:24 <stickster> whee
20:16:38 <mchua> Ah yes. One-page release notes: we need layout help once we get all the screenshots in.
20:16:50 <mchua> Any design denizens who can take Mo's template and do the re-layout?
20:16:53 <ianweller> #action ianweller to copy edit one-page release notes (and eat a banana)
20:16:53 <mchua> If not, I'll action myself to find one.
20:16:57 <mchua> ianweller: you rock.
20:17:24 <ianweller> "action" is a verb now
20:18:02 * rbergeron is going to be actioning all night long
20:18:08 <stickster> "Verb... that's what's happenin'"
20:18:25 <stickster> rbergeron: Remember the children, please.
20:18:48 <ianweller> yeah like me >.>
20:18:49 <rbergeron> oh, right.
20:18:55 * rbergeron hugs ianweller
20:19:08 <stickster> :-D
20:19:11 * rbergeron does well to remember anything the past few days. :)
20:19:13 <stickster> Moving on.
20:19:16 * drak blushes
20:19:24 <rbergeron> hiya drak :) thanks for coming!
20:19:57 <drak> m half asleep
20:19:58 <mchua> #action mchua find designer to layout pdf version of one-pager
20:20:01 <drak> it's 2am here
20:20:05 <mchua> hey drak! *coffee*
20:20:10 <mchua> Anyhow, one-pager should be fine.
20:20:13 <mchua> Moving on!
20:20:30 <mchua> I think the Marketing FAD followup is an old ticket that can be closed... rbergeron?
20:20:38 <mchua> #topic Marketing FAD followup
20:20:40 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/102
20:20:50 <rbergeron> yeah, i'll close it. i think it's wrapped
20:20:58 <mchua> #info ticket closed!
20:21:00 <mchua> thanks rbergeron.
20:21:09 <mchua> #topic Press kit
20:21:12 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/104
20:21:25 <mchua> So, I've seen some press kit activity lately but I'm not *entirely* sure what's up with this.
20:21:28 <rbergeron> well, i've got them dumped into wiki mktg plan. so once people take ownership, tickets / assignments can be made
20:21:33 * mchua apologizes for being less on the ball re: press kit than optimal.
20:21:43 <mchua> wonderer: Thoughts, note, updates on press kit?
20:22:01 <rbergeron> okay - soooooo last week i said i'd submit a ticket for a template to design-team... which i did (albeit, you know, very shortly ago, because my brain is bad)
20:22:08 * rbergeron hasn't seen wonderer on in the past day or two
20:22:11 * mchua too.
20:22:17 <rbergeron> i'm not sure what other status he has going on atm.
20:22:22 <ianweller> mchua: depending on the timetable needed i can probably work on the one-pager layout too
20:22:28 <mchua> ianweller: "this week"
20:22:43 <ianweller> mchua: text finalized tonight? if i get all the content, like, now, i can do it tomorrow morning
20:22:46 <mchua> rbergeron: I poked Henrik about press kit last week and got a short reply; I'll find and forward that and followup.
20:22:48 <ianweller> i don't plan on going to school tomorrow
20:22:51 <mchua> rbergeron: ^^ text finalized tonight?
20:22:59 <rbergeron> yeah, i can do it for the next hour or so.
20:23:01 * mchua can do that in an hour or so, she thinks
20:23:07 <mchua> ianweller: Text finalized right after this meeting ends. :)
20:23:11 <rbergeron> i think we're almost kosher, just some awkwardness to clean up.
20:23:15 <ianweller> mchua: rock
20:23:26 <mchua> #action mchua poke wonderer on F13 press kit status
20:23:27 <ianweller> mchua: i can take the one-pager layout then
20:23:34 <mchua> #action ianweller to do one-page release note layout
20:23:36 <mchua> ianweller: thank you!
20:23:45 <mchua> Our actions do not correspond to our topics, but I do not care. :D
20:23:56 <mchua> #topic Marketing research
20:23:59 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/41
20:24:06 <mchua> rbergeron: I think... this may just become an F14 thing, right?
20:24:15 <rbergeron> yes.
20:24:19 <rbergeron> i hope.
20:24:24 <rbergeron> we're waiting on finishing FI
20:24:27 * mchua updates ticket
20:24:37 <mchua> #info Marketing research waiting on finishing FI
20:24:39 <wonderer> re
20:24:44 <mchua> wonderer: oh hey!
20:24:47 <wonderer> sorry, im late ... wrk :-(
20:24:51 <rbergeron> then i'll be back to begging ke4qqq for pleeeeeease can we package things ;)
20:25:03 <mchua> wonderer: no worries, glad you could make it! We were hoping for an update on press kits.
20:25:07 <mchua> #topic press kits
20:25:07 * stickster notes that FI will resume meeting this week
20:25:22 * wonderer reading backlog..
20:25:30 <mchua> #info FI meetings resume this week
20:26:49 <mchua> We have two topics left - one is Twitter, and another is going over Zonker's session and seeing if there's immediately actionable stuff from it we want to do.
20:27:09 <mchua> Let's do twitter first, and then spend the remaining time on Zonker (if we deem that we have enough time left once we're done with twitter.)
20:27:19 <mchua> wonderer: feel free to pipe in notes on press kits anytime. ;)
20:27:22 <mchua> #topic Twitter SOP
20:27:29 <mchua> rbergeron: You have the floor - not sure what you wanted to talk about here.
20:27:49 <rbergeron> oh
20:28:01 * rbergeron defers to ke4*
20:28:26 <ke4zvu3> A while back in fedora-mktg i recall "owning" the twitter strategy thing and one of my many action items was to produce a sop / help allegheny (sp?) students with a SOP
20:28:32 <mchua> yep yep yep.
20:29:00 <wonderer> presskit modules look good so far. I think if everybody takes a last look and Design team makes a nice Template for OOO then it is ready for TakeOff.
20:29:10 <ke4zvu3> They did produce one but i've embellished upon it and perhaps made it more timeless hopefully.
20:29:12 <ke4zvu3> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_sop
20:29:29 <rrix> haiii :)
20:29:32 <ke4zvu3> I have a high degree of confidence that it is in some kind of bad violation of mchua SOP standards and wiki standards
20:29:42 <ke4zvu3> i have not checked any meta-SOP page for conformance
20:29:47 * mchua chuckles
20:29:56 <mchua> oh my gosh this is AWESOME
20:30:26 <ke4zvu3> but i'm just merely stating that i've added a bunch of content, made a bunch of declarative sentences, and made assumptions which may or may not have any ring of truth
20:30:32 <rbergeron> somewhat related question: do we want to keep all this "hai we're allegheny students" stuff on all these wiki pages?
20:30:33 <wonderer> short sidenote - if EVERYBODY saw articles of Fedora in print-magaznes, please try to scan them in and put them into the pressartice archive. It is always good to have 1-2 magazine articles in such a binder.
20:30:36 <mchua> ke4zvu3: Dude, I think you blew my standard out of the water, I'll apply the appropriate wiki category tags once the meeting's over.
20:30:37 <ke4zvu3> and it's very much a draft as it says
20:30:40 <mchua> er, this rocks.
20:30:42 <mchua> thsi rocks.
20:30:45 <mchua> #link https://fedorahosted.org/marketing-team/ticket/113
20:30:47 <mchua> whoops
20:30:48 <rbergeron> wonderer: if we have the rights to do so
20:30:54 <mchua> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_sop
20:31:08 <wonderer> rbergeron: shure.
20:31:12 * ke4qqq is hopeful that we can rip the draft tag off rather soon
20:31:23 <mchua> #action mchua categorize twitter SOP
20:31:28 <ke4zvu3> #idea from wonderer: if EVERYBODY saw articles of Fedora in print-magaznes, please try to scan them in and put them into the pressartice archive. It is always good to have 1-2 magazine articles in such a binder.
20:31:28 <ke4qqq> there was a recent tweet this week that was.....ummmm.... bad
20:31:35 <mchua> (that should take me all of 2 minutes and then we can rip the draft tag off I think)
20:31:46 <mchua> ke4qqq: which?
20:31:57 <ke4qqq> mchua: let me get you a link
20:32:14 <ke4zvu3> the link ke4qqq is referring to is http://twitter.com/fedora_linux/status/13695030548
20:32:24 <mchua> #agreed Twitter SOP is *lovely* and everyone should applaud
20:32:42 * rbergeron claps
20:32:43 <ke4qqq> take a look at some of the bad feedback we received from that tweet
20:32:46 <ke4qqq> http://twitter.com/toon81/status/13701942786
20:32:47 <ke4qqq> http://twitter.com/DreamPCs/status/13695911416
20:33:10 <mchua> #info concern about a bad tweet - need to discuss
20:33:11 <ke4qqq> it really concerns me that the message there isn't consistent
20:33:14 <mchua> #link http://twitter.com/fedora_linux/status/13695030548
20:33:36 <ke4qqq> and certainly doesn't sound like it comes from fp.o
20:33:54 <mchua> #info negative feedback received about that tweet (rightfully so) - messaging should be both considerate and consistent.
20:34:01 <ke4zvu3> yeah, even after categorization there is work to do IMHO, i'm noticing some glaring inconsistencies with bullets vs. numbered lists, etc...
20:34:04 <mchua> #link http://twitter.com/DreamPCs/status/13695911416
20:34:09 <mchua> #link http://twitter.com/toon81/status/13701942786
20:34:15 <wonderer> what tools do we have right now to monitor and measure tweets?
20:34:31 <wonderer> or which one do you use?
20:34:35 <ke4zvu3> #action ke4zvu3 add more links to Twitter SOP and make more consistent and more awesome
20:34:54 <ke4zvu3> wonderer: we use HootSuite https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_sop#Access
20:35:33 <rbergeron> i think this is just a case of "be excellent"
20:35:46 * mchua nods.
20:35:56 <rbergeron> and - i'd add - we don't want to limit people's personal opinions
20:35:57 <mchua> We don't really have a way to enforce https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_sop#Messages other than trusting the people with access to do the right thing.
20:36:05 <rbergeron> right
20:36:07 <ke4zvu3> true
20:36:16 <rbergeron> so we're not telling individuals what they should or shouldn't say
20:36:17 <ke4qqq> right - but at least we have a published standard for people to live up to
20:36:34 <ke4qqq> no, have no problem with mether expressing that opinion
20:37:04 <ke4qqq> I do have a problem with us calling it to attention in an 'official' channel for the project
20:37:20 <ke4qqq> as that makes it 'our' opinion
20:37:26 <rbergeron> IMO, we should just stay away from discussing other distros on OUR feed.
20:37:30 <ke4qqq> +1
20:37:36 * mchua agrees - that's what the #Messages section says as well.
20:38:33 <wonderer> +1
20:38:42 <rbergeron> do we have a FAS group for who gets access to tweeting capabilities?
20:38:55 <ke4zvu3> I don't believe so
20:39:15 <rbergeron> not neccesarily tied to it, per se - but so we have an identified group of people who we can make sure have actually maybe read the document
20:39:20 <rbergeron> understand what we're doing
20:39:26 <rbergeron> food for thought
20:39:27 <rbergeron> ?
20:39:43 <ke4zvu3> sounds logical to me
20:39:44 <ke4qqq> what's the status on us being 'verified' and perahps getting @fedora as well
20:40:09 * mchua doesn't know if someone was specifically working on that
20:40:22 <mchua> #idea FAS group for twitter access?
20:40:34 <wonderer> I think the Marketing Group as FAS maybe should be Ok so we have all under one hood... but we can also have a dedicated social-network or whatever group.
20:41:02 <ke4zvu3> being verified requires filling out a form while being logged in at twitter.com as the account requesting verification. I had emailed one of the three people I know that has the actual password to it but i think it must have come at a bad time and I never heard back and to my own fault i never followed up due to lack of time
20:41:21 <ke4zvu3> with regards to getting @fedora, from what i read of twitter's policies, that should be very doable
20:41:41 <mchua> ke4zvu3: Could you follow up on @fedora and verification before the release, so we can tweet with extra-super-shiny when the day comes?
20:42:09 <ke4qqq> mchua: sounds like he is blocked on needing a password - any chance you or stickster have that?
20:42:09 <mchua> ke4zvu3: (and thank you! You've done a tremendous amount - we *have* a microblogging strategy now, which is *way* better than our earlier "uh... accounts, they... are somewhere!" lack-of-plan.)
20:42:24 <ke4zvu3> #action ke4zvu3 take whatever means necessary to acquire @fedora and verification before release because it would be extra-super-shiny
20:42:31 <mchua> ke4qqq: alas, no, but https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Twitter_sop#Individuals_with_current_access has a list
20:42:34 <mchua> stickster: ^ you're on that list
20:42:37 <stickster> ke4qqq: Who's blocked on a password? To what?
20:42:50 <stickster> Sorry, not multitasking well here :-)
20:42:52 <mchua> stickster: fedora twitter account. I don't have it.
20:42:56 <ke4qqq> stickster: ke4zvu3 is blocked - password to twitter - for verification
20:43:04 <ke4qqq> and getting @fedora secured for ourselves
20:43:42 * stickster searches
20:44:15 <ke4zvu3> question:  would it be safe to assume that @fedora would be the preferred/more-awesome account to have and then get that one verified ?
20:44:22 <mchua> +1 to @fedora
20:44:24 <mchua> (personally)
20:44:57 <stickster> ke4qqq: For @fedora_linux -- access is through HootSuite -- a user who wants to help manage needs to get an account there, then the owner of that HS account grants access
20:45:06 * stickster sees if he can grant access
20:45:14 <stickster> That prevents passing a password around to everyone
20:45:21 <ke4qqq> hmmmmm stickster might be helpful to read backlog
20:45:28 <ke4qqq> it's not just access he's looking for
20:45:54 <rbergeron> so - we're trying to get the @fedora - not the @fedora_linux
20:46:11 <rbergeron> and that requires... some sort of verification process, or figuring out how to procure pw from whoemver owns it
20:46:18 <ke4zvu3> two separate things
20:46:26 <stickster> Ah, I see
20:46:56 <ke4zvu3> rbergeron: so twitter has a process by which an org can request to get an account by someone that squatted it and/or alienated it...  @fedora would fall under that category
20:47:16 <rbergeron> right.
20:47:27 <ke4zvu3> rbergeron: so yes, we want to get @fedora and then get it verified for the world to know that out of the umpteen number of accounts out there, this is the real deal
20:47:39 <rbergeron> yes
20:47:45 * rbergeron is on the same page :)
20:48:03 <stickster> I agree. If nothing else, @fedora is shorter and easier to remember
20:48:10 <ke4zvu3> #agreed
20:48:11 <mchua> #info We want to get the @fedora account, then verify the fedora account with twitter as "the real Fedora twitter account."
20:48:11 <rbergeron> and the logical thing people are looking for
20:48:16 <mchua> #undo
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20:48:22 <mchua> #agreed We want to get the @fedora account, then verify the fedora account with twitter as "the real Fedora twitter account."
20:48:26 <mchua> There we go.
20:48:28 <mether> how about identi.ca?
20:48:30 * rbergeron goes and snags @the_real_fedora_twitter_account *grin*
20:48:36 <mchua> :P
20:48:58 <rbergeron> :)
20:48:58 <mchua> mether: Good question. ke4zvu3, is the gameplan to link the @fedora identi.ca account to @fedora on twitter?
20:49:14 <ianweller> need to figure out who handles @fedora on identi.ca
20:49:23 <ke4zvu3> well, this was discussed at the marketing FAD and some stuff documented and linked from here
20:49:24 <ke4zvu3> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Marketing_social_networks
20:49:33 <mether> IMO,  we should be using identi.ca and letting it message to the equivalent twitter account. thats what i do personally
20:50:06 <ke4zvu3> mether: that has been discussed as well as the other way around. i'm not aware of the pros/cons of the two methods
20:50:13 <mether> Preference for FOSS services and all that
20:50:16 <ke4zvu3> yeah
20:50:18 <stickster> mether: +1
20:50:32 <mchua> mether: +1
20:50:49 <mether> I would also prefer to call it micro blogging SOP rather than twitter SOP to recognize this
20:50:56 <ke4zvu3> and in case mchua is thinking this, i do plan to go and greatly update the link i just posted with links to the SOP and taking care of the action items requested on that page
20:50:57 <ke4qqq> at the mktg fad we did say that identi.ca and twitter had markedly different audiences, which strikes me as meaning different messages, but.....I don't know
20:51:01 <ke4zvu3> +1 mether
20:51:04 <ianweller> the problem is having multiple people having access to the same account without password sharing
20:51:16 <ianweller> you can't use multiple openids on identi.ca last i checked
20:51:18 <ke4zvu3> ianweller: HootSuite allows for that
20:51:28 <ianweller> ke4zvu3: w/ identi.ca?
20:51:43 <mchua> ke4qqq: I think that right now, we can probably use the same microblogging strategy for both - until we get that down (consistency of message, etc) and can manage two separately.
20:52:03 * stickster doesn't think HS works with identi.ca.
20:52:04 <ke4qqq> mchua: +1
20:52:09 <ke4zvu3> ianweller: not with identica
20:52:17 <ianweller> ah, there lies the rub
20:52:33 <ke4zvu3> Hence Identigator
20:52:44 <ke4zvu3> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Identigator
20:52:46 <mchua> ...which is not yet finished.
20:52:48 <ke4zvu3> right
20:52:55 <mchua> rrix, gwerra: Identigator ping - status?
20:52:57 <ke4qqq> rrix: ^^^ will that be done this weekend?
20:53:03 <ke4zvu3> haha
20:53:07 <rrix> uh, i doubt it
20:53:17 <ke4qqq> ohhhh well, can't blame me for asking
20:53:22 <ke4zvu3> but just to be clear, Identigator won't solve the problem of access to identi.ca like HS does for twitter
20:53:26 <rrix> it kinda got lost in the post-fad hole of crap i have :)
20:53:26 <gwerra> mchua: I am getting the sudo code ready for it
20:53:40 <gwerra> pseudo**
20:54:05 <stickster> mchua: rbergeron: Did we get to actionable items for getting the accounts? Is anyone contacting the system providers to find out what we need to do to secure a named account?
20:54:14 <mchua> stickster: ke4zvu3 is.
20:54:16 * ianweller notes we're coming up on the 5 minute mark
20:54:16 <stickster> OK
20:54:35 <mchua> #info Identigator (for managing microblogging accounts) is still under development, will not be ready for F13
20:54:38 <mchua> ianweller: Agreed.
20:54:39 * stickster can help with correspondence if someone requires something on letterhead
20:54:39 * rbergeron defers all social network microblogging stuff to the wisdom of ke4zvu3 :)
20:54:49 <mchua> rbergeron: also agreed :)
20:55:03 * ianweller almost said "#agreed coming up on the 5 minute mark" ;)
20:55:08 <ke4zvu3> haha, i read that as Single Point Of Failure
20:55:09 <mchua> ianweller: you just did :P
20:55:12 <rbergeron> holy moly
20:55:19 <mchua> All righty.
20:55:28 <mchua> #info Zonker discussion moving to next meeting
20:55:36 <mchua> Anything else on microblogging, or on anything at all?
20:55:44 <ke4zvu3> i have nothing more at this point
20:55:46 <mchua> ke4zvu3: You've got a lot to do. :) Anything we can help you with, anything you have questions on?
20:55:51 <mchua> ke4zvu3: jinx :)
20:55:54 <ke4zvu3> i'm sure but not at the moment
20:55:57 * mchua nods.
20:56:02 <mchua> and we're all on the mailing list, so hey. :)
20:56:14 <mchua> rbergeron and I will return to one-page release note sprinting so ianweller has something for copyediting and layout shortly
20:56:19 <mchua> and... otherwise, I think we're done.
20:56:21 <rbergeron> YAY
20:56:26 * rbergeron can't wait
20:56:27 * mchua looks around for last-minute comments
20:56:31 <mchua> ianweller: jetpack!
20:56:33 <mchua> Thanks everyone!
20:56:38 * ianweller puts it on
20:57:01 * mchua notes she feels *so* much more on the ball for F13 than last release, team-wise - we've really matured and grown in capacity and ability to manage marketing for a release
20:57:06 <mchua> and we're still learning :)
20:57:13 <mchua> so - HUGE thank you and congratulations to everybody!
20:57:18 <mchua> aaaand ending in 5...
20:57:20 <mchua> 4...
20:57:22 <mchua> 3...
20:57:24 * mchua dons jetpack
20:57:25 * ianweller hits the switch
20:57:26 <mchua> ianweller: gogogo!
20:57:28 <mchua> 2...
20:57:30 <mchua> 1...
20:57:34 <ianweller> *fwooooooooshhhhhhhhhhh*
20:57:35 * mchua blasts off through the window
20:57:37 <mchua> #endmeeting