18:04:35 <kital> #startmeeting
18:04:36 <zodbot> Meeting started Mon Mar  1 18:04:35 2010 UTC.  The chair is kital. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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18:04:44 <kital> #topic Roll Call
18:04:48 <kital> Joerg Simon
18:04:51 <susmit> Susmit Shannigrahi
18:05:06 <kital> ...
18:05:09 <kital> 3
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18:05:20 <susmit> ke4qqq, is there in fedora-ambassadors
18:05:25 <susmit> s/,//
18:05:30 <kital> susmit: i have pinged him
18:05:59 * ke4qqq is here sorry
18:06:06 <ke4qqq> David Nalley
18:06:06 <kital> still Roll Call
18:06:09 <kital> perfect
18:06:13 <kital> ;)
18:06:16 <susmit> ok..let's work.
18:06:40 <kital> #topic Agenda Famsco meeting
18:06:42 <kital> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_agenda
18:07:00 <kital> should we start with Susmits Fallback Draft?
18:07:06 <susmit> kital, ok
18:07:17 <kital> #topic Susmit -- work on a draft for "fallback policy in case there is a dispute between mentor and mentee" to add to the join page.
18:07:24 <susmit> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/dispute_resolution
18:07:33 <kital> Susmit made a great proposal
18:07:34 <kital> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/dispute_resolution
18:07:43 <susmit> what would you like to add or substructure?
18:07:45 <kital> ;) susmit
18:07:47 <susmit> oops
18:07:59 <kital> np
18:08:09 <kital> sorry for the confusion
18:08:13 <kital> go ahead
18:08:52 <susmit> I meant subtract...I shall like to hear your opinion on this.
18:09:01 <kital> we have the Mentoring Townhall today - i think we should present this to the Mentors
18:09:05 * ke4qqq has no objections and thinks the policy is good
18:09:31 * inode0 thinks it is fine too from the cheap seats
18:09:35 <kital> i like this proposal as well
18:10:20 <kital> #agreed present the Draft for Dispute Resolution to the Mentors
18:10:31 <kital> inode0: ;)
18:10:42 <kital> next topic ?
18:10:53 <kital> 2
18:10:56 <ke4qqq> kital: is this something famsco can just approve as policy and show off to mentors as "the policy" for disputes
18:11:03 <ke4qqq> or is that what we just did?
18:11:20 * ke4qqq is confused by the term "draft"
18:11:52 <kital> ke4qqq: this is what we drafted and i think we should discuss it with the people who are doing the mentoring work
18:12:13 <susmit> ke4qqq, it will come in action if there is any dispute in future. We call it draft because we have not formally accepted it as a policy.
18:12:27 <kital> but we present this as a consent famsco proposal
18:12:40 <ke4qqq> ok
18:13:01 <kital> #undo
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18:13:02 <kital> #agreed present the Draft for Dispute Resolution to the Mentors
18:13:06 <kital> #undo
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18:13:30 <kital> #agreed present the Draft for Dispute Resolution to the Mentors for further input and final approval by famsco as policy
18:14:08 <kital> we move to the next topic in
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18:14:35 <kital> #topic Maria -- create a wiki page for "things to show on your laptop during an event".
18:14:54 <kital> does anybody know if there was work done on this?
18:15:11 <susmit> no...we have not received any communication in this regard.
18:15:37 <susmit> so I assume this has not been started yet.
18:15:52 <kital> ke4qqq: can you get in contact with tatica to help her a bit with this topic?
18:16:23 <ke4qqq> kital: yes
18:17:00 <kital> #action ke4qqq will help tatica with a wiki page for "things to show on your laptop during an event" till next famsco meeting
18:17:19 <kital> next topic in
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18:17:33 <kital> thanks btw ke4qqq ;)
18:17:37 <ke4qqq> np
18:17:37 <kital> 1
18:17:48 <kital> #topic Maria & Joerg -- set up a mentors meeting. get organized till 01.March 2010
18:18:08 <kital> we will have the meeting today after this meeting at 19:00 UTC
18:18:27 <kital> the agenda https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors/Mentors_TownHall_agenda
18:19:07 <kital> Mentors could add their topics and i look forward to a productive meeting
18:19:10 <kital> eof
18:19:19 <kital> anything more to that?
18:19:29 <susmit> about mentors meeting no.
18:19:37 <kital> next topic in
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18:20:20 <kital> #topic Famsco Report February 2010
18:20:23 <kital> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAmSCo_report_2010-02
18:20:45 <kital> thanks to all who worked on it
18:20:57 <kital> but there are more things to add
18:21:13 <kital> susmit: can you help us out
18:21:43 <kital> ?
18:21:55 <susmit> I guess it will be delayed...kital, I have updated almost all the sections. :)
18:22:11 <susmit> I can always help
18:22:19 <susmit> kital, what help do you need
18:22:21 <susmit> ?
18:22:54 <kital> susmit: this was what i wanted to know
18:23:11 <kital> i added the mentoring and emea stuff to the section
18:23:23 <kital> s/the section/the emea sections
18:23:33 <kital> ke4qqq: can you take care for the NA Sections?
18:23:35 <susmit> I can not add budget..Max have to...Neither I can add NA or LATAM stuff. They have to do it..rest is complete.
18:23:50 <ke4qqq> kital: yes looking at them now.
18:23:53 <kital> ke4qqq: if yes, till when can you do it
18:23:54 <kital> ?
18:24:12 <ke4qqq> I'll get it done by 2000 UTC today
18:24:14 <kital> susmit: right LATAM is something we can not solve today - i fear
18:24:19 <kital> super ke4qqq
18:24:29 <kital> so only LATAM is missing
18:24:32 <susmit> kital, do we mark them not updated and release?
18:24:38 <susmit> "not updated"
18:25:20 <kital> #action kital send Rodrigo and Tatica a Reminder to update it in the next 24hours otherwise we mark it as "not updated"
18:26:00 <kital> susmit, ke4qqq - a last chance ok?
18:26:33 <ke4qqq> worksforme
18:26:51 <susmit> yes..but we really need to work on it..Do we make a hard deadline from now on? Freeze at midnight last date of month?
18:27:34 <kital> yes i write the email right now
18:27:56 <kital> and we make it the deadline 18:00 UTC on 02-March-2010
18:28:23 <kital> so we have a chance to release it tomorrow?
18:28:53 <susmit> yes..let's do it. I don't hope to come in by tomorrow though.
18:29:29 * susmit is sorry for being pessimist but can not help it.
18:29:38 <kital> and for future  - we should make a deadline - first Day of the new month at 15:00 UTC
18:29:58 <kital> so i have a chance to update the Ambassadors and Mentoring metric
18:30:04 <susmit> kital, +1
18:30:21 <kital> ke4qqq: ok for you?
18:30:28 <ke4qqq> +1 frm me
18:31:34 <kital> #agreed Deadline for the Monthly FAmSCo Report is set to first Day of the new month at 15:00 UTC
18:32:41 <kital> any more to add right now to the Report
18:32:42 <kital> ?
18:32:50 <susmit> none from my side
18:33:09 <ke4qqq> none- aside from the NA stuff I am responsible for
18:33:51 <kital> Open Floor - then i asume?
18:34:29 <kital> btw i updated the stats today
18:34:36 <susmit> kital, seen it...
18:34:40 <kital> http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/?p=fama.git;a=blob_plain;f=stats/ambassadors.png
18:35:13 <susmit> We agreed to send a call for creating an FAQ to ambassadors list. It has not been done yet. I take it up.
18:36:11 <kital> #action susmit creates a FAQ for Ambassadors
18:36:26 <susmit> kital, no I send out a call for help to f-a-l
18:36:38 <kital> #undo
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18:36:40 <kital> sorry
18:37:03 <kital> #action susmit makes a call for action to create and contribute to a Ambassadors FAQ
18:37:51 <kital> another thing i have to do is the Mentoring Survey
18:38:34 <kital> ke4qqq susmit do you think to send emails to the mentors with questions is a proper way?
18:39:00 <kital> s/is a proper way/will work out/
18:39:10 <susmit> kital, yes, only you will have a hard time collating those. :) But it will work out.
18:39:33 <ke4qqq> kital - marketing has had me working on survey software - perhaps they could create the survey in pt and have mentors test it and get us data :)
18:40:04 <kital> ke4qqq: super where is it - the software i mean
18:40:17 <ke4qqq> publictest16.fedoraproject.org/phpesp
18:40:20 <ke4qqq> iirc
18:41:01 <ke4qqq> http://publictest16.fedoraproject.org/phpESP/
18:41:35 <ke4qqq> if you'll get the list of questions I am sure rbergeron or some other marketing type can help us use this, informally in PT
18:42:40 <kital> #action kital send questions for mentoring survey to ke4qqq to create a survey
18:42:46 <kital> #undo
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18:42:50 <kital> #action kital send questions for mentoring survey to ke4qqq
18:43:17 <kital> #action ke4qqq build the mentoring survey as soon as the questions from kital are submitted
18:43:32 <kital> good ;)
18:43:36 <kital> are we done?
18:44:55 <kital> ok - i think we can end the meeting for today
18:44:57 <susmit> I guess so...
18:45:02 <ke4qqq> I think so
18:45:08 <kital> thanks susmit ke4qqq ;)
18:45:15 <kital> #endmeeting