06:29:24 <hiemanshu> #startmeeting Fedora-India
06:29:24 <zodbot> Meeting started Sun Dec 20 06:29:24 2009 UTC.  The chair is hiemanshu. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.debian.org/MeetBot.
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06:29:31 <hiemanshu> #chair franciscod
06:29:31 <zodbot> Current chairs: franciscod hiemanshu
06:29:39 <hiemanshu> #topic who's here
06:29:50 <Morpheuss> im here :)
06:29:53 <hiemanshu> #topic whos here
06:30:06 <jdk2588> Jaideep
06:30:08 <dilipkhanolkar> dilip khanolkar
06:30:13 <vermapratyush> Pratyush Verma'
06:30:15 <franciscod> Ankur Sinha
06:30:20 <kushal> Kushal Das
06:30:21 <Morpheuss> Imran
06:30:22 <hiemanshu> Hiemanshu Sharma
06:30:33 * franciscod waits for anymore folks
06:30:39 <hiemanshu> Lets wait a couple of minutes
06:30:43 <zer0c00l> zodbot: Arun SAG
06:30:49 <zer0c00l> oops
06:30:56 <hiemanshu> franciscod: Then you can go on with the Agenda
06:30:59 <franciscod> kushal: here? ;)?
06:31:10 <kushal> franciscod, actually in Pune
06:31:15 <franciscod> hiemanshu: we could wait 2 minutes, for people to join in..
06:31:22 <zer0c00l> mbuf:  ?
06:31:29 <moorthykmd> Dhakshina Moorthy
06:31:30 <franciscod> <pj>
06:31:31 <hiemanshu> franciscod: thats what I said
06:32:10 <franciscod> ashwin_man: here?
06:32:27 <franciscod> skbohra: ?
06:32:44 <skbohra> up!
06:32:58 <franciscod> skbohra: name please? for the roll call :)
06:33:16 <skbohra> Shree Kant Bohra
06:33:39 <hiemanshu> Prajwal: Roll call going on, Please reply with your full name
06:33:54 <franciscod> okay.. lets move on, people can join in as they come
06:33:55 <Prajwal> Prajwal Panchmahalkar
06:34:03 <vAMsHI> Vamshi Krishna
06:34:09 <mbuf> Shakthi Kannan
06:34:22 <franciscod> lets begin with newbie introductions, so we know each other before we begin to discuss
06:34:38 <hiemanshu> #topic Introductions
06:34:39 <franciscod> #topic new comers
06:34:47 <ashwin_man> Ashwin Mansinghka
06:35:02 <hiemanshu> franciscod: I ll leave it to you so we dont mess up
06:35:28 <franciscod> whod like to go first? "!" to speak, "?" for question, EOF when youre done
06:35:43 <zer0c00l> !
06:35:51 <franciscod> zer0c00l: floor's all yours :)
06:36:00 <zer0c00l> yes,Let me introduce myself
06:36:04 <zer0c00l> I am Arun S A G
06:36:18 <zer0c00l> It is my first Fedora-india irc meeting
06:36:46 <zer0c00l> I am a fedora ambassador and a beginner level  package maintainer
06:37:03 <zer0c00l> I blog at arunsag.wordpress.com
06:37:06 <SeaOrifice> SeaOrifice: I am Akshay Patil, Just another RMS Fan and I have just dived in here
06:37:16 <zer0c00l> EOF
06:37:16 <hiemanshu> SeaOrifice: Please wait for yor turn
06:37:27 <franciscod> zer0c00l: ?
06:37:32 <SeaOrifice> oh some people already know me
06:37:56 <franciscod> zer0c00l: how you doing with the packaging?
06:38:07 <franciscod> #link arunsag.wordpress.com
06:38:33 <zer0c00l> franciscod: can i share my experiences on packaging now ?
06:38:50 <zer0c00l> franciscod: or later?
06:39:00 <franciscod> zer0c00l: i think you should  do it all now :)
06:39:09 <zer0c00l> franciscod: ok then
06:39:24 <jdk2588> !
06:39:34 <hiemanshu> jdk2588: Just a second
06:39:47 <zer0c00l> I started packaging with emacs-haskell-mode
06:39:55 <hiemanshu> jdk2588: I ll tell you when zer0c00l is done :)
06:40:14 <franciscod> please include links etc as you feel necessary
06:40:16 <zer0c00l> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517366
06:40:42 <hiemanshu> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517366
06:40:46 <franciscod> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=517366
06:40:53 <zer0c00l> It is part of my training at dgplug
06:41:01 <zer0c00l> mbuf mentored me
06:41:30 <zer0c00l> For any one want to start with packaging please check http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/howtos/packaging-rpm-workflow.html
06:41:40 <hiemanshu> #link http://shakthimaan.com/downloads/glv/howtos/packaging-rpm-workflow.html
06:42:11 <zer0c00l> However my first approved package was emacs-irsim-mode
06:42:32 <zer0c00l> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=543383
06:42:49 <zer0c00l> The package is part of FEL -F13 target
06:43:41 <zer0c00l> Chitlesh sponsored me
06:44:40 <zer0c00l> For newbies: if you want to be sponsored quick package things for SIGS and spins
06:45:02 <mbuf> !
06:45:32 <zer0c00l> For those who are interested in electronics may contribute to #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/
06:45:35 <zer0c00l> mbuf: yes
06:45:58 <hiemanshu> zer0c00l: the #link should come in the starting
06:46:05 <mbuf> chitlesh also mentored zer0c00l when reviewing those mentioned packages
06:46:15 <mbuf> EOF
06:46:16 <hiemanshu> #link For those who are interested in electronics may contribute to https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-electronic-lab/
06:46:22 <zer0c00l> mbuf: i missed that , thanks :)
06:46:30 <franciscod> #link http://meetbot.debian.net/Manual.html#user-reference
06:46:38 <mbuf> #link http://spins.fedoraproject.org/fel/
06:47:36 <zer0c00l> #link For those who are interested in pentesting and security check Fedora's security spin https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/SecuritySpin
06:47:50 <hiemanshu> zer0c00l: You stole my part
06:47:58 <zer0c00l> Indeed, SPINs are a great way to contribute
06:48:08 <zer0c00l> hiemanshu: :)
06:48:12 <dilipkhanolkar> lol
06:48:39 <mbuf> !
06:48:46 <zer0c00l> i have some check list for newbie package maintainers
06:48:49 <zer0c00l> mbuf: yes
06:49:08 <mbuf> even on IRC channel "speakers" are made helpless :p
06:49:13 <jdk2588> !
06:49:23 <hiemanshu> mbuf: If you have something to say related to topic just go ahead
06:49:29 <mbuf> EOF
06:49:31 <zer0c00l> jdk2588: yes
06:49:43 <mbuf> hiemanshu, just kidding at the 'stole my part'
06:50:02 <jdk2588> franciscod: u were about to have a hands on session
06:50:03 <hiemanshu> mbuf: I know, you go ahead with these without asking for permission :)
06:50:17 <hiemanshu> jdk2588: Thats for later
06:50:27 <zer0c00l> ok back to topic
06:50:38 <franciscod> jdk2588: #info yep, we decided to keep that separately, in this week maybe, ill post to the list
06:50:50 <zer0c00l> So , i have a small checklist for newbie package maintainers
06:50:59 <mbuf> please continue
06:51:20 <zer0c00l> 1. Never post it in bugzilla , before building the srpm in koji
06:51:38 <zer0c00l> Whenever you do some changes make sure it works well
06:51:46 <zer0c00l> Double check things
06:52:06 <zer0c00l> 2. Test the srpm with rpmlint
06:52:11 <dilipkhanolkar> ok
06:52:18 <franciscod> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Join
06:52:45 <franciscod> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_create_an_RPM_package
06:53:03 <zer0c00l> #link common rpmlint warnings and errors can be resolved with the help of https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_Rpmlint_issues
06:53:16 <franciscod> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/CreatingPackageHowTo
06:53:19 <zer0c00l> So check both srpm and rpms with rpmlint and resolve any errors and warnings
06:53:51 <franciscod> zer0c00l: The URL must be the first thing on the line, after #link for meetbot :)
06:54:07 <hiemanshu> franciscod: nope it will work that way too
06:54:15 <zer0c00l> franciscod: ok
06:54:33 <franciscod> hiemanshu: see the link on meetbot reference ive pasted above
06:54:41 <franciscod> zer0c00l: please go on
06:54:54 <franciscod> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/ReviewGuidelines
06:55:46 <zer0c00l> franciscod: yes
06:56:19 <zer0c00l> 4. You look at a upstream project and you want to package it for fedora, then do the following
06:56:54 <zer0c00l> * Search whether the package is already available in the repository
06:57:19 <zer0c00l> #link http://fedoraproject.org/PackageReviewStatus/ check whether the package is already under review
06:58:08 <franciscod> #info to search for existing bugs on a package, http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/<packagename>
06:58:52 <zer0c00l> It happened to me with emacs-jabber
06:59:25 <zer0c00l> #link https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=522046 My bugzilla entry was closed as a duplicate to another :(
06:59:36 * franciscod giggles
07:00:10 <zer0c00l> 5. Give attention to license filed in spec file
07:00:21 <zer0c00l> Whether its is GPLv2 or GPLv3 or both etc
07:01:05 <zer0c00l> 6. Check md5sum of your source rpm everytime you upload it to your fedorapeople space
07:01:36 <zer0c00l> match the md5sum with your local package
07:01:45 <franciscod> #link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedorapeople.org
07:02:09 <zer0c00l> 6. Never fix the upstream packages by hand, all modifications to the upstream should me done with a patch
07:02:15 <zer0c00l> s/6/7
07:02:16 * hiemanshu just had a power cut, might DC anytime
07:02:30 <Prajwal> oops powercut
07:02:34 <Prajwal> here
07:02:41 <Prajwal> ooh hiemanshu
07:03:01 <zer0c00l> 8. And always submit your patches to upstream
07:03:11 <Prajwal> Morpheuss: save this log for me
07:03:20 <hiemanshu> anyways go on, if UPS fies down, i ll use my phone
07:03:35 <franciscod> Prajwal: i will post the logs to the list, nothing to worry about
07:03:38 <Morpheuss> sure
07:03:46 <zer0c00l> Ok that it  :)
07:03:54 <franciscod> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#All_patches_should_have_an_upstream_bug_link_or_comment
07:03:58 <franciscod> zer0c00l: EOF?
07:04:01 <hiemanshu> who wants to go next?
07:04:02 <zer0c00l> wait
07:04:20 <mbuf> !
07:04:41 <zer0c00l> and i wish to use this opportunity to thank mbuf and chitlesh for helping and mentoring me :)
07:04:48 <mbuf> I just want to add that one cannot force F/OSS on to anyone
07:05:01 <zer0c00l> and i thank kushal for conducting dgplug summer training
07:05:05 <zer0c00l> EOF
07:05:12 <zer0c00l> mbuf: agreed
07:05:19 <mbuf> it is very important for people to have the interest; what we can do is to help nurture the interest
07:05:58 <mbuf> so, unless, people are really interested and committed to learning, working, and contributing, it is best not to waste others' time too
07:06:15 <mbuf> sure, we are happy that you use our systems; and we are grateful for that
07:06:24 <franciscod> vermapratyush: your first meet? would you like to go next? once mbuf is done ?
07:06:45 <mbuf> it does take time; and we need to be very patient when working with new comers
07:06:50 <mbuf> EOF
07:06:52 <vermapratyush> franciscod, yeah sure
07:07:01 <ashwin_man> !
07:07:02 <franciscod> vermapratyush: floor is yours
07:07:09 <hiemanshu> ashwin_man: shoot
07:07:20 <vermapratyush> I am Pratyush Verma, currently doing Computer Science in BIT Mesra
07:07:29 <ashwin_man> When do we discuss the F12 expereinces ?
07:07:36 <hiemanshu> ashwin_man: Later :)
07:07:45 <vermapratyush> I am fedora ambassador mentored by mether
07:08:33 <vermapratyush> after the zer0c00l's tutoriual on packaging i think i will soon start sometime
07:08:43 <vermapratyush> on packaging
07:08:55 * franciscod makes a note ;)
07:09:21 <vermapratyush> I am a member of the LUG in BIT thats called the BITLUG
07:09:31 <hiemanshu> vermapratyush: You can ask zer0c00l and mbuf for help, I can help a little as well
07:09:50 <zer0c00l> vermapratyush: That is not my tutorial :) its mbuf 's . I just prepared some tips
07:10:22 <vermapratyush> we had a install fest and few workshop on shell scripting, in july-aug
07:10:58 <vermapratyush> zer0c00l, ok, will consult you or mbuf when req.
07:11:01 <franciscod> vermapratyush: any links to a blog post etc?
07:11:12 <vermapratyush> yeah i do have a blog its
07:11:19 <vermapratyush> vermapratyush.co.cc
07:11:36 <vermapratyush> #link http://vermapratyush.co.cc
07:11:45 <franciscod> vermapratyush: is it added to planet.fedoraproject.org?
07:12:21 <vermapratyush> ya, i tried but i was getting some problem in adding, when i tried ssh i gat an error access denied
07:12:25 <vermapratyush> or something like that
07:12:44 <franciscod> vermapratyush: okay, we can have a look at that after the meeting
07:12:47 * franciscod makes a note
07:12:51 <franciscod> please continue
07:13:39 <vermapratyush> EOF
07:14:30 <franciscod> who else is sorta new and would like to introduce themselves?
07:15:02 <vermapratyush> jdk2588, is also "sorta" new, i think
07:15:24 <franciscod> jdk2588: hes been around for a while, we met him at foss.in etc :)
07:15:37 <jdk2588> !
07:15:38 <vermapratyush> franciscod, oh.. ok
07:15:46 <franciscod> jdk2588: your turn :)
07:16:09 <jdk2588> ok at last meet up I introduced about lugb
07:16:18 <jdk2588> Linux Users Group Bikaner
07:16:32 <jdk2588> here is the #link http://lugb.in
07:17:22 <skbohra> !
07:17:39 <jdk2588> skbohra: go on
07:18:05 <franciscod> jdk2588: ! (after skbohra is done)
07:18:59 <skbohra> trying to make this domain a center point of our activities
07:19:22 <skbohra> we setup an mailing list and an irc channel as well
07:19:34 <jdk2588> we have setup our mailing list lugb_ml@lugb.in
07:20:36 <hiemanshu> vermapratyush: do you have a FAS account?
07:20:37 <skbohra> jdk2588: you were setting up local repo as well ?
07:21:06 <vermapratyush> hiemanshu, yes
07:21:11 <jdk2588> yes I got the dump and will be setting it up soon
07:21:21 <hiemanshu> vermapratyush: Please come to #fedora-social
07:21:58 <skbohra> 27 members of lugb were at foss.in
07:22:19 <franciscod> skbohra: jdk2588 you should add all this to the foss.in retrospection that's been going on..
07:22:38 <skbohra> sure
07:23:02 <jdk2588> +1 franciscod
07:25:08 <skbohra> EOF
07:25:29 <zer0c00l> jdk2588: your turn ?
07:25:33 <hiemanshu> Who wants to next?
07:25:43 <hiemanshu> ashwin_man: you want to?
07:25:59 <ashwin_man> sure
07:26:02 <jdk2588> EOF
07:26:03 <hiemanshu> ashwin_man: Go on
07:26:42 <ashwin_man> Hello everyone, wanted to share something about F12
07:27:02 <ashwin_man> I have installed it on 3 systems
07:27:16 <ashwin_man> each in a different way
07:27:40 <ashwin_man> one was with plane DVD ...and a fresh install
07:27:53 <moorthykmd> power off. out
07:28:11 <ashwin_man> the other 2  pcs do not have DVD drive
07:28:27 <ashwin_man> was there fore forced to do a local network install
07:28:46 <ashwin_man> and  both had F11 and the activity was to upgrade
07:29:04 <ashwin_man> out of these 2 again
07:29:23 <ashwin_man> one was booted with netinstall CD
07:29:44 <ashwin_man> finally the last one was more troublesome
07:29:53 <ashwin_man> i.e. my laptop
07:30:20 <ashwin_man> no USB boot, the CDROM drive does not work and there is no floppy drive
07:30:39 <ashwin_man> was then forced to use PXE install and it worked smooth
07:30:49 <ashwin_man> there is still a problem
07:30:55 <ashwin_man> with the laptop
07:31:30 <ashwin_man> There is a regular crash with kernel oops reporting apic issues
07:31:52 <zer0c00l> ACPI ?
07:32:02 <manud> ashwin_man: can you give me the link to download netinst.iso for fc12 i386 ?
07:32:28 <hiemanshu> manud: fedoraproject.org/get/get-fedora-all
07:32:38 <ashwin_man> no it is not ACPI
07:32:46 <ashwin_man> it is APIC
07:33:35 <hiemanshu> manud: Sorry its http://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora-all
07:33:48 <ashwin_man> ACPI = Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
07:33:56 <ashwin_man> APIC = Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controllers
07:34:02 <mbuf> ashwin_man, could try intel_iommu=off in kernel command line on menu.lst
07:34:26 <ashwin_man> noapic let me boot
07:34:49 <franciscod> hmm. can the troubleshooting be done after the agendas been taken care of please?
07:34:55 <ashwin_man> but the X server does not work...rather the system hangs when X is started
07:35:27 <ashwin_man> well this is a feedback now
07:35:32 <franciscod> we still have feedback on foss.in to do.. and the other newbies can introduce themselves and ptich their queries if they have
07:35:33 <manud> hiemanshu: thanks
07:35:34 <ashwin_man> any suggestions can be done later
07:35:42 <ashwin_man> EOF
07:36:29 <franciscod> I'll just finish up my bit:
07:36:38 <franciscod> Feedback on F12 :
07:37:11 <franciscod> as always, fedora loves my hardware, there was a bug in the noveau driver while fading that caused me trouble initially..
07:37:15 <franciscod> its been fixed.
07:37:29 <franciscod> the kmod-nvidia failed for me this release.
07:37:39 <franciscod> it got me a blank screen, with X failing to start
07:38:09 <franciscod> fedora solved now has a howto for kmod-nvidia which needs you to rebuild your initrd to prevent nouveau from loading
07:39:05 <franciscod> i got myself a tablet which needed wizardpen to function
07:39:23 <franciscod> #link http://fedorasolved.org/video-solutions/nvidia-yum-kmod
07:39:46 <franciscod> Ive put up a howto on fedorasolved for wizardpen supported tablets, its under revire
07:39:50 <franciscod> s/revire/review
07:40:16 <franciscod> i havent packaged much lately, ive been busy with fedora-tour lately
07:40:28 <franciscod> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fedora-tour/wiki/WikiStart
07:40:47 <franciscod> #link http://fedorasolved.org/Members/ankursinha/tablets-on-f12-using-wizardpen <- tabler
07:41:24 <franciscod> foss.in was great,
07:41:57 <franciscod> i met mether(rahul), kushal, rangeen , hiemanshu, shrink , susmit, anjhan etc
07:42:18 <franciscod> the POTD was good too, will put up my views on the restrospection page soon
07:42:26 <franciscod> think thats all
07:42:27 <franciscod> EOF
07:43:09 <franciscod> i think most of the agendas been taken care of
07:43:28 <franciscod> anyone else whod like to add? agenda related?
07:43:38 <franciscod> else we can declare an open floor and get on with it
07:44:28 * franciscod wonders if anyones still around
07:44:36 <franciscod> hiemanshu: dint you have a lot to say?
07:44:51 * zer0c00l waves
07:45:04 <vermapratyush> vermapratyush, waves
07:45:24 <skbohra> !
07:45:34 <franciscod> skbohra: floors yours
07:45:42 <skbohra> plans for f12 release parties
07:45:53 <franciscod> #topic f12 release parties
07:46:01 <franciscod> proceed
07:46:15 <skbohra> had anyone organized yet ?
07:46:35 <franciscod> !
07:46:41 <skbohra> jdk2588 is planning to organize here
07:47:01 <skbohra> if anyone can share their experience with release party
07:47:15 <franciscod> i will have one once i get back into college.. early january
07:47:33 <hiemanshu> franciscod: Sorry was out
07:47:38 <franciscod> skbohra: !
07:47:44 <franciscod> related to the lugb site
07:47:52 <skbohra> sure
07:47:59 <franciscod> "8. install webchat on lugb.in server and give a link of it on the front page, something like irc.lugb.in would be nice"
07:48:09 <franciscod> wouldnt it be better to just have a channel on freenode.net?
07:48:31 <hiemanshu> franciscod: webchat that autoconnects to their channel
07:48:41 <hiemanshu> That can be done
07:48:42 <skbohra> most people here dont have irc clients install
07:48:46 <franciscod> looks like you people have a different irc server in mind? "irc.lugb.in" ?
07:48:55 <skbohra> oops
07:49:17 <skbohra> no, just a web client
07:49:23 <franciscod> jdk2588: ^^ ?
07:49:47 <hiemanshu> skbohra: Do you have anything in mind for what to install? I can help you with it if you want
07:49:53 <franciscod> skbohra: pleae correct the page then, its a little confusing..
07:50:06 <skbohra> will do
07:50:17 <franciscod> skbohra: i think an irc howto link would be simpler..
07:50:19 <skbohra> hiemanshu: sure,
07:50:24 <franciscod> hiemanshu: what say? ^ ?
07:50:51 <hiemanshu> franciscod: Put up a page with instructions, and a like to webchat.freenode.net
07:50:56 <hiemanshu> link**
07:51:10 <skbohra> hiemanshu: it would be great if you can share what we can put and how we can organize the site more better
07:51:15 <franciscod> jdk2588: skbohra ^^ comments?
07:51:27 <jdk2588> ya
07:51:30 <hiemanshu> skbohra: Sure, Ping me any time tommorrow
07:51:53 <jdk2588> we are about to  organize a F12 release party in January
07:51:54 <skbohra> franciscod: we have an irc instructions page, will update it
07:52:00 <franciscod> #action jdk2588 skbohra hiemanshu do stuff to the lugb site , irc client etc
07:52:25 <hiemanshu> franciscod: Lets move on
07:52:29 <jdk2588> but before that I would other members of lugb to have a session over packaging
07:52:33 <hiemanshu> franciscod: Let me take control now
07:52:43 <hiemanshu> jdk2588: I am going to speak about it so just wait
07:52:47 <jdk2588> ok
07:52:51 <hiemanshu> #topic Packaging Week
07:52:58 <hiemanshu> So we are planning to have a packaging week
07:53:05 <hiemanshu> Starting on Jan 4th
07:53:18 <hiemanshu> Where some of the best Fedora-Packagers are going to be aroun
07:53:20 <hiemanshu> around**
07:53:29 <hiemanshu> and Teach people how to package
07:53:38 <hiemanshu> Right now the talk is still going on
07:53:53 <zer0c00l> hiemanshu: !
07:53:57 <hiemanshu> We will have a theory session and then a hands-on session everyday
07:53:59 <hiemanshu> zer0c00l: shoot
07:54:00 <zer0c00l> hiemanshu: in #fedora-classrooms ?
07:54:03 <hiemanshu> zer0c00l: yes
07:54:21 <hiemanshu> There are going to be a lot of people I anticipate
07:54:26 <manud> hiemanshu: place ?
07:54:37 <hiemanshu> manud: I will announce it all to the list
07:54:49 <manud> hiemanshu: ok
07:54:59 <hiemanshu> manud: But it will mostly be during Night times as most people are from the otherside of the world
07:55:41 <hiemanshu> I will be emailing the list soon with details
07:55:51 <hiemanshu> So if anyone is interested you can just jump in
07:56:06 <ashwin_man> bye
07:56:28 <hiemanshu> Thats about it from me
07:57:25 <hiemanshu> franciscod: GO on now
07:57:47 <franciscod> hiemanshu: can you please give a link to the mailing list regarding the packaging week?
07:58:17 <hiemanshu> franciscod: Just a second, I ll have to search :(
07:58:24 <franciscod> hiemanshu: take your time
07:58:32 <franciscod> #topic open floor
07:58:34 <vAMsHI> !
07:58:43 <franciscod> vAMsHI: floors yours :)
07:58:57 <vAMsHI> what we have to do in review process ?
07:59:10 <hiemanshu> mbuf: ^^
07:59:27 <franciscod> vAMsHI: the review process is when a reviewer checks if your package is good enough to be submitted
07:59:36 <mbuf> hiemanshu, reviewers will give comments, and if there are any fixes, one needs to fix them
07:59:54 <vAMsHI> okay
07:59:59 <dilipkhanolkar> ok
08:00:10 <franciscod> mbuf: there are tiers for packagers right? i cant recall them, mether had said during POTD
08:00:26 <franciscod> like sponsor, reviewer etc. do you remember them?
08:00:33 <mbuf> franciscod, yes
08:00:53 <mbuf> franciscod, only a sponsorer can approve a project for inclusion in Fedora
08:01:19 <mbuf> franciscod, once your package is approved, you become a package maintainer for the project
08:01:28 <hiemanshu> #link http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/classroom/2009-December/000103.html
08:01:35 <vAMsHI> okay
08:01:37 <mbuf> franciscod, also anyone who is member of the packager group can and should review others' packages
08:01:50 <vAMsHI> EOF
08:02:00 <mbuf> everything is built on trust; but, to build trust takes time
08:02:03 <zer0c00l> mbuf: another package maintainer cannot review my package and say it approved?
08:02:16 <mbuf> zer0c00l, only a sponsorer can
08:02:22 <mbuf> zer0c00l, they can review
08:02:28 <hiemanshu> and give you Karma
08:02:32 <zer0c00l> mbuf: ok
08:02:38 <mbuf> zer0c00l, I reviewed your package, but, only chitlesh can sponsor
08:02:48 <zer0c00l> mbuf: ok
08:03:07 <franciscod> more queries?
08:03:16 <mbuf> coming back to trust, it takes time to build it;
08:03:26 <dilipkhanolkar> i have 1 question
08:03:28 <mbuf> it is also a means to see if a person entering into packaging is fully committed to the task in hand
08:03:38 <dilipkhanolkar> but totally out of topic
08:03:56 <mbuf> sure, it is not everybodys' liking
08:04:01 <mbuf> dilipkhanolkar, shoot!
08:04:05 <franciscod> dilipkhanolkar: open floor :)
08:04:34 <dilipkhanolkar> when will the medias for ambassadors be shipped
08:04:47 <mbuf> dilipkhanolkar, which city are you from?
08:04:50 <dilipkhanolkar> i have some requests pending
08:04:52 <mbuf> *or at
08:04:53 <dilipkhanolkar> mumbai
08:05:07 <hiemanshu> franciscod: When do you plan to host the release party? I think I ll drop in
08:05:10 <mbuf> dilipkhanolkar, did you contact the local user group in Mumbai?
08:05:16 <hiemanshu> franciscod: I have some Goodies as well (Stickers)
08:05:35 <franciscod> hiemanshu: early jan.. ill ping you and the list
08:05:39 <dilipkhanolkar> i dont have any contact details
08:05:39 <hiemanshu> franciscod: Great
08:05:46 <mbuf> dilipkhanolkar, please subscribe to their mailing list, http://mm.glug-bom.org/mailman/listinfo/linuxers and ask there
08:05:55 <mbuf> dilipkhanolkar, you don't need contact details to write an e-mail to a mailing list
08:06:05 <franciscod> dilipkhanolkar: you can also ask folks from the pune lug, mether, sankarshan etc are all there IIRC
08:06:23 <franciscod> youll get media in a day from LUGMumbai or LUG Pune
08:06:26 <franciscod> !
08:06:41 <dilipkhanolkar> ok
08:06:46 <Morpheuss> !
08:06:56 <mbuf> franciscod, shoot
08:07:11 <franciscod> i wanted to know if there are people here planning to  attend GNUnify at pune?
08:07:23 * hiemanshu jumps up, me me me
08:07:37 <franciscod> sankarshan had forwarded their mail to the list
08:07:44 <mbuf> franciscod, yes, if I am not traveling; could start planning right away
08:07:56 <mbuf> Morpheuss, shoot!
08:07:57 <franciscod> I'll try to be there too
08:08:14 <hiemanshu> franciscod: If you coming, we can go together
08:08:16 <dilipkhanolkar> i will also try to be there
08:08:19 <mbuf> franciscod, could start a wiki page in fedoraproject, I suppose
08:08:32 <dilipkhanolkar> i can then get the medias directly in my hand
08:08:35 <franciscod> mbuf: ill do so.. once ive checked the agenda of the event
08:08:36 <Morpheuss> Anybody from hyderabad AP LUG ? just want to be in touch with them for local activities
08:08:44 <mbuf> franciscod, like how they do it for FUDcon; BTW, we should aim to organize a FUDcon next year
08:08:54 <mbuf> Morpheuss, yes, in Hyderabad; which user group are you from?
08:09:11 <mbuf> Morpheuss, http://ilughyd.org.in/
08:09:17 <hiemanshu> mbuf: Next fudcon is in Africa
08:09:32 <franciscod> hiemanshu: he meant a fudcon india.. you can hold one whenever you want :)
08:09:36 <mbuf> hiemanshu, IIRC, they were planning in all continents, in parallel
08:09:56 <mbuf> hiemanshu, we should start a wiki page for that too, and start publicizing it
08:09:59 <franciscod> mbuf: fudcon in india is a must.. :)
08:10:02 <hiemanshu> franciscod, mbuf: Sure we can, But we should keep it apart
08:10:05 <mbuf> franciscod, +1
08:10:10 <hiemanshu> So other people can attend too
08:10:17 <mbuf> hiemanshu, apart?
08:10:38 <mbuf> Morpheuss, http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/ilughyd/
08:10:38 <hiemanshu> mbuf: Atleast 2 weeks time gap between FUDCons
08:11:05 <mbuf> hiemanshu, last time I heard from mchua, she said it will be done on a weekend, and in parallel across the continents
08:11:08 <dilipkhanolkar> any idea of holding any fudcons in mumbai
08:11:20 <mbuf> hiemanshu, Symbiosis can play hosts, since for the first time, we can get support from RH
08:11:23 <Morpheuss> mbuf, right now anybody there from hyd in irc?
08:11:35 * franciscod is happy to see so many people interested in the fudcon
08:11:35 <hiemanshu> mbuf: Thats exactly what I had in mind
08:11:35 <mbuf> Morpheuss, I replied with yes!
08:11:36 <dilipkhanolkar> many people can attend
08:11:52 <franciscod> mbuf: why not start dividing tasks?
08:12:08 <mbuf> franciscod, we need to initiate discussion on the fedora-india mailing list
08:12:10 <Morpheuss> mbuf, after meeting is over, will contact you :)
08:12:20 <franciscod> mbuf: okay..
08:12:21 <mbuf> franciscod, atleast 6 months time will be required to plan it well and good
08:12:26 <hiemanshu> mbuf: There was a talk about it
08:12:32 <mbuf> franciscod, sankarshan was thinking of some time during May-June 2010
08:12:39 <franciscod> mbuf: can you please post to the list? you have the best idea currently?
08:12:42 <hiemanshu> mbuf: And also they said that GNUnify is a nice plan to meetup and speak
08:12:48 <mbuf> hiemanshu, yes, it is
08:12:59 <hiemanshu> franciscod: It was in the mailing-list
08:13:03 <franciscod> mbuf: yeah.. sankarshan had mentioned it..
08:13:04 * hiemanshu looks up the mailing-list
08:13:05 <mbuf> franciscod, we will start with a ticket :)
08:13:15 <franciscod> hiemanshu: that threads been loong been buried and forgotten
08:13:25 <hiemanshu> yup i know
08:13:44 <franciscod> #action mbuf file a ticket for fudcon ?
08:13:47 <mbuf> franciscod, yes
08:14:26 <franciscod> whats next?
08:14:33 <franciscod> anyone got anything?
08:14:43 <mbuf> franciscod, lunch? :p
08:14:47 <franciscod> mbuf: lol..
08:14:50 <franciscod> okay then..
08:14:51 <zer0c00l> mbuf: yes :)
08:14:52 <dilipkhanolkar> ya i am ready to sponsor it
08:14:54 <zer0c00l> mbuf: Lunch
08:15:05 <franciscod> #agreed everyone heads to a hearty luncg
08:15:07 <mbuf> BRB folks; it was a good meeting!
08:15:07 <franciscod> ;)
08:15:11 <dilipkhanolkar> anyone in mumbai just contact me
08:15:18 <franciscod> ending meeting..
08:15:20 <hiemanshu> franciscod: I am not hungry
08:15:23 <franciscod> #endmeet
08:15:23 <mbuf> dilipkhanolkar, ask in ##linux-india
08:15:24 <hiemanshu> #endmeeting