13:01:27 <tradej> #startmeeting "Outreach Program for Women: Lessons in Collaboration"
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13:01:34 <mizmo> hi, thank you for coming
13:01:36 <mizmo> i'm marina
13:01:59 <mizmo> will talk about outreach program for women, i coorganize with karen sandler who was exec director of gnome foundation, now exec director of software freedom conservancy
13:02:13 <mizmo> marina is board member of ada intiaitive
13:02:21 <mizmo> board member at gnome foundation
13:02:25 <mizmo> organize outreach progarm for women
13:02:31 <mizmo> work on newcomers and interns intiatiivges at gnome
13:02:33 <mizmo> @marinaz
13:02:39 <mizmo> first effort - took place in 2006
13:02:47 <mizmo> gnome received 181 applications for google summer of code
13:02:49 <mizmo> none of them were from women
13:02:53 <mizmo> i wasn't invovled at that time
13:03:05 <mizmo> ppl who did this - chris ball, hannah wallach with mairin duffys help with marketing
13:03:24 <mizmo> created poster for women - instead of competitive language "rock star" "best the best" used more collaborative language, "opportunity to work with mentor" "learn"
13:03:29 <mizmo> to try to attract more women
13:03:40 <mizmo> google summer of code for 1300 students every year get funding to work on free software projects
13:03:46 <mizmo> gaudec 2009: 5% women
13:03:54 <mizmo> i was one of 8 women at guadec
13:04:06 <mizmo> the board approached me and asked me to review our outreach efforts
13:04:15 <mizmo> before i go in to talk about outreach program for women in depth
13:04:20 <mizmo> this happened recently at fosdem
13:04:34 <mizmo> one of the opw participants approached by men... surprised at seeing a girl at the conference
13:04:44 <mizmo> if you say things like that at a conference, it makes women feel uncomfortable
13:04:54 <mizmo> great blog post by ada initiative called "breaking the unicorn law"
13:05:17 <mizmo> "unicorn law: every women in free software is asked to talk about women in free software"
13:05:26 <mizmo> not every women participating wants to talk about diversity or is an expert in diversity
13:05:33 <mizmo> this blog post has great resources about learning about this
13:05:40 <mizmo> emphasize importance of having a support communti for women
13:05:50 <mizmo> even women from diff projects to meet together, to feel like they belong
13:06:08 <mizmo> since 2009 we've had 8 internship rounds
13:06:17 <mizmo> this is a poster, also designed by mairin, from the current / last round
13:06:26 <mizmo> outreach program for women offers mentorship in free osftware projects throughout the year
13:06:32 <mizmo> specifically for remote internships twice a year
13:06:35 <mizmo> we've had 8 rounds of internships
13:06:46 <mizmo> 170 participants so far with many free softawre orgs (slide is full of them)
13:06:49 <mizmo> fedora is one of those organizations
13:06:54 <mizmo> equalizer and promotor sponsors -
13:07:04 <mizmo> wikimedia, google, hp, intel, mozilla, linux foundation, open source orbotics foudnations, red hat
13:07:14 <mizmo> there are more orgs that have supported at other levels
13:07:33 <mizmo> red hat contributes marina's time, software freedom conservancy contributes akren's time, ropes and gray attorneys contributes legal services
13:07:35 <mizmo> how we do it
13:07:42 <mizmo> we address women (Cis and trans) And gender queer directly
13:08:04 <mizmo> we learned that... the language of women is exclusive by default so it's important to also mention trans and gender queer
13:08:08 <mizmo> we accept non-students and non-coders
13:08:14 <mizmo> many who are ineligible for summer of code
13:08:25 <mizmo> there's design, docs, engagement - anyything that can help free software projects
13:08:34 <mizmo> very important part of how we run the program is a collaborative application process
13:08:41 <mizmo> orgs have mentors listed on their progam landing pages
13:08:53 <mizmo> applicants are asked to contact a mentor and are req to complete a task relevant to the job
13:09:04 <mizmo> for linux kernel - many applicants participate, not as many slots
13:09:06 <mizmo> can be competitive
13:09:14 <mizmo> program time - focused to build experience in free software
13:09:17 <mizmo> it's a dedicated focus
13:09:20 <mizmo> financailly supported
13:09:31 <mizmo> one of the things i really like about program -we require participants blog at least every 2 weeks about their work
13:09:38 <mizmo> their blog posts are postede to women in free software planet
13:09:45 <mizmo> and also at individual planets for the upstreams they work in
13:10:10 <mizmo> there is also career development advisor for interns - sumana - has office horus in irc to discuss next steps in building a free software career
13:10:19 <mizmo> we also have $500 travel allowance to enable interns to come to conferences
13:10:23 <mizmo> to meet their mentor etc
13:10:30 <mizmo> (there are two opw interns at flock right now btw -mizmo)
13:10:34 <mizmo> statistics about program
13:10:46 <mizmo> very important to encourage women to propose talks and present at conferences
13:11:01 <mizmo> another step in this chain of things where women often need more encouragement than just inviting them to propose talks makes a great difference
13:11:26 <mizmo> jessica - diversity chari at python - asks every women she knows to propose a talk as a result of her work, pycon - number of women presenting went from single percentage numbers to 33% female speakers this year
13:11:41 <mizmo> i learned from leslie hawthorn - often women and internships, talk about return on investment
13:12:12 <mizmo> important to realize - just having had a chance to share our values, having mentored the participant and having access to influecne how they think about free software - is a privilege, this is a time when people are exploring - it's perfectly fine if participants end up moving on
13:12:16 <mizmo> fedora projects in OPW
13:12:21 <mizmo> we've participated in 2 rounds
13:12:28 <mizmo> mairin duffy is the coordinator for fedora's participation
13:12:38 <mizmo> ralph bean luke macken and jakub hrozek have mentored interns
13:12:55 <mizmo> ralph bean mentored jessica anderson (datanommer) and charul agrawal (datagrepper)
13:13:02 <mizmo> charul moved on to do internship for google summer of code
13:13:13 <mizmo> stephanie manuel did usability testing plan used at dev con last year for anaconda
13:13:20 <mizmo> marie nordin created over 70 badges for fedora and a style guide
13:13:26 <mizmo> she's here at flock to give a talk this afternoon
13:13:32 <mizmo> you can learn more about her work there
13:13:39 <mizmo> karen tang worked on the hyperkitty development and UI...
13:13:44 <mizmo> ui interface for mailman
13:13:49 <mizmo> (She's also giving a talk at flock)
13:13:53 <mizmo> this afternoon
13:13:55 <mizmo> about ux design
13:14:05 <mizmo> pallavi worked on sssd unit tests
13:14:14 <mizmo> marija worked on fedora-applications and fedora-packages
13:14:18 <mizmo> that's fedora's participants so far
13:14:32 <mizmo> encourage everybody to talk to mairin to talk about becoming a mentor or encouraging more participants
13:14:39 <mizmo> here are more project examples from other orgs
13:14:55 <mizmo> stacey sern worked on twisted api library for python - wrote api docs and smtp client and server tutorials
13:15:11 <mizmo> eliane ramos worked on gnome projects... tasks manager called getting things gnome, added geolocation feature to tasks
13:15:43 <mizmo> tashwin khurana did internship with open source robotics foundation worked on gazebo robot simulator that worked with open street map, wrote plug in to represent buildings as polygons, and represent roads and traffic stops in simulated env
13:16:01 <mizmo> sayali lunkad worked on openstack... added graphs from ceilometer to add graphics on horizon dashboard
13:16:05 <mizmo> tehse are the kinds of projects our interns do
13:16:08 <mizmo> 3 month long internship
13:16:14 <mizmo> guadec 2014 was 13% women
13:16:29 <mizmo> we had 23 women in attendance
13:16:44 <mizmo> accomplishments of alumns
13:16:49 <mizmo> 21 had full session talks at FOSS conferences
13:16:55 <mizmo> 16 found employment or contracts with sponsoring orgs
13:17:06 <mizmo> 14 went on to other foss internships or focused opps, such as GSoc or hacker school
13:17:10 <mizmo> 7 became mentors in their orgs
13:17:14 <mizmo> 3 organized local tech groups
13:17:21 <mizmo> 1 became a gnome foundation board member
13:17:48 <mizmo> last summer applicants for linux kernel... came ahead of industry heavyweight contributors to linux kernel
13:17:51 <mizmo> improements for everyone -
13:18:07 <mizmo> program resulted in a general list of mentors which could serve as a general resource to any newcomers to community
13:18:12 <mizmo> newcomers tutorial in gnome
13:18:16 <mizmo> easy and moderate bugs identified
13:18:47 <mizmo> blogging is a requirement so intern blogs aggregated to project planet
13:18:58 <mizmo> women in gsoc statistics
13:19:01 <mizmo> 2011: 7.1%
13:19:04 <mizmo> 2012: 8.3%
13:19:08 <mizmo> 2013: 9.5%
13:19:12 <mizmo> 2014: 10%
13:19:26 <mizmo> applicants of women in gsoc has steadily climbed up
13:19:34 <mizmo> another program google does for high school students - google code in
13:19:38 <mizmo> the numbers are not so great -
13:19:43 <mizmo> 1 out of 20 in 2013 was female
13:19:45 <mizmo> 0 out of 20 in 2014
13:19:54 <mizmo> (these numbers are for google code in prize winners)
13:20:09 <mizmo> 10% of participants in 2014 were girls but none went on to win a prize
13:20:14 <mizmo> we are not reaching girls in free software
13:20:22 <mizmo> education statistic for 70 OPW participants from 2014
13:20:25 <mizmo> 53% students
13:20:34 <mizmo> 24% recent grads < 3 since last degree
13:20:37 <mizmo> 17% non-recent grads
13:20:44 <mizmo> 6% some college edu, but not pursuing degree
13:20:47 <mizmo> 37% pursuing masters
13:20:51 <mizmo> 9% had or were pursuing phd
13:21:20 <mizmo> we're reaching people who don't have access to higher education
13:21:27 <mizmo> free software a great way to get started in tech without a degree
13:21:33 <mizmo> participation by country
13:21:51 <mizmo> US, India, Romania, Canada, UK, Italy, Czech Republic are the countries best represented
13:22:19 * mizmo won't transcribe slide, but be sure to check it out after preso
13:22:43 <mizmo> lack of participation by country
13:22:56 <mizmo> a lot of countries in middle east, africa, asia are left out, very low participation
13:23:24 <mizmo> we don't have statistics for it, but we have few participants of color in free software (in the US)
13:23:44 <mizmo> we're not seeing them in freesoftware, and not at the levels they aprticipate in computer science degrees
13:24:18 <mizmo> so that's some info about who else is underrepesented
13:24:29 <mizmo> here's a small survey of projects trying to address various aspects of representation
13:24:40 <mizmo> ada intiative dedicated to increasing participation of women in open source and technology
13:24:56 <mizmo> take a systematic approach - they help orgs and people adopt anti harassment policies for community and conferences
13:25:06 <mizmo> also have materials for ally skills building - these are online and i recommend checking them out
13:25:15 <mizmo> they also have workshops for imposter syndrome - internalized sexism by women
13:25:24 <mizmo> also they run a conference for women in open tech and culture called ada camp
13:25:29 <mizmo> ive been to 3 ada camps in the us
13:25:35 <mizmo> next ones are coming up in berlin and bangalore this fall
13:25:51 <mizmo> if it's local to you, applications are open, please encourage women you know to consider going
13:25:57 <mizmo> another project i really love - the ascend project
13:26:02 <mizmo> started by lucas from mozilla
13:26:11 <mizmo> goal to reach people underrepresented and from udnerprivileged backgrounds
13:26:18 <mizmo> dont necessarily have college education and have to live paycehck to paycheck
13:26:28 <mizmo> they really need... offers $50/day financial support for the participants
13:26:36 <mizmo> offers laptops ppl can keep if they successfully finish program
13:26:47 <mizmo> this addresses people who would not necssarily be at a place in their life to particiapte in a program like opw
13:27:06 <mizmo> lucas' motivation for this is that she came from a job where she had to work paycehck to paycheck and then ralized technology brings good opps for mobility
13:27:09 <mizmo> she started at mozilla
13:27:13 <mizmo> wanted to help others from a similar background
13:27:26 <mizmo> participants learn javascript,a utomated testing for mozilla, and also free software communities and opportunities
13:27:33 <mizmo> first 6 week pilot will be in portland oregon this fall
13:27:40 <mizmo> next 6 week progarm is planned for new orleans
13:27:42 <mizmo> more work is done by
13:27:46 <mizmo> software carpentry by mozilla
13:27:50 <mizmo> two day bootcamps
13:28:05 <mizmo> they teach free software tools that scientists can use
13:28:10 <mizmo> open hatch does open source comes to campus workshops
13:28:20 <mizmo> often work with women in computer science orgs on campuses to invite women to their events
13:28:24 <mizmo> open hatch running dozens of workshops in US
13:28:31 <mizmo> not very present in europe but they have great resources
13:28:37 <mizmo> excellent training they use in theri workshops
13:28:47 <mizmo> i encourage ppl to check out their reources, perhaps replicate it locally if you can
13:28:50 <mizmo> more work done by-
13:28:58 <mizmo> women who code... technical skill workshops and meetings for women
13:29:11 <mizmo> they have a series of meetups in san francisco area
13:29:25 <mizmo> help women start contributing to free software w explicit goal to help them apply for google summer of code or code in
13:29:27 <mizmo> other groups like that
13:29:29 <mizmo> pyladies
13:29:30 <mizmo> rails bridge
13:29:54 <mizmo> chick tech - they explicitly dedicated to introducing girls to free software... use drupal, arduino, ubuntu. would be great if somebody would help girls install fedora :)
13:30:10 <mizmo> perl hacks - black girls code... other groups i know in US. would love to hear about more such girls in europe that we can connect to
13:30:12 <mizmo> what's next
13:30:30 <mizmo> next round of outreach program internships will be open to women and the ascend project graduates... app deadline is oct 22. internships dec 9 to march 9
13:30:51 <markllama> Technovation: http://www.technovationchallenge.org/home/
13:30:52 <mizmo> ascend graduates will be eligible regardless of fender
13:30:54 <mizmo> gender
13:31:05 <mizmo> would like to start outreach program for girls...
13:31:17 <mizmo> will work with some of the groups i mentioned like chick tech and black girls code
13:31:22 <mizmo> with girls who know to code
13:31:28 <mizmo> connect them with opw alums and mentors in their areea
13:31:37 <mizmo> to help them participate in frees ofware / google code in
13:31:40 <mizmo> how can you help with opw?
13:31:42 <mizmo> here are some ideas
13:31:51 <mizmo> join women0outreach@lists.fedoraproject.org and #fedora-women on freenode
13:32:00 <mizmo> talk to marina if ppl like you are underrepresented in free software
13:32:27 <mizmo> help spread the word
13:32:40 <mizmo> apply to participate if eligible (encourage eligibile women/.otehrs you know if possible)
13:32:44 <mizmo> become a mentor
13:32:52 <mizmo> get your organization to offe rinternships
13:32:56 <mizmo> get your company to sponsor internships
13:32:58 <mizmo> donate to the gnome foundation
13:33:02 <mizmo> get more info at gnome.org/opw
13:34:04 <mizmo> marina has posted a slide with references to all of the data she outlined in her talk
13:34:11 <mizmo> her talk her under CC-BY-SA 3 license
13:34:16 <mizmo> QUESTION: where can ppl get marina's slides
13:34:26 <mizmo> tradej, ^^ :)
13:34:44 <mizmo> Question: (don't know who this is) talked to opw mentors, one of the feedbacks i get is "i don't know how to mentor"
13:34:58 <tradej> mizmo: acknowledged, will relay
13:35:03 <mizmo> do you ahve any training / feedback to help people become mentors... how to learn how to mentor people. it's not easy. you have to find the right way to do it
13:35:28 <mizmo> many people have said, they don't know how to mentor so how can we become better
13:35:37 <mizmo> a: there's resources - info for mentors page on the OPW site
13:35:50 <mizmo> we recommend in particular, people hold IRC office horus at least once a week if not twice a week for the intern
13:36:01 <mizmo> we also have techniques to address - if you don't see enough participation from your intern, what are the ways to address it
13:36:15 <mizmo> other ways to address - gsoc has a very extensive guide for mentors that we link to
13:36:19 <mizmo> if you have ideas for what we should provide on opw page -
13:36:33 <mizmo> we already have several things, but if you think there is something else w should have there - go ahead and edit it or suggest to us
13:36:59 <mizmo> q: where can slides be gotten
13:37:11 <mizmo> a: marina - i will post to wiki.gnome.org/outreachprogramforwomen/spreadtheword
13:37:14 <mizmo> ill psot the slides there
13:37:17 <mizmo> thanks tradej :)
13:37:28 <tradej> mizmo: any time :)
13:38:20 <mizmo> q: (don't know who this is) outreach program for women - i spread the word. i personally emailed 25 women... most of them were just finishing their degrees... actually 2 women happen to be in nicaragua fedora group - one of them told him, she wasn't good enoguh to apply. but i think it wasn't true. other said she wasn't good enoguh in english but good enoguh in program. i feel it was a shame they didnt really apply
13:38:24 <mizmo> marina: it sounds like you did your best
13:38:37 <mizmo> q: i think... is it possible to have a mediator - someone not a mentor, but a mentor for applying....
13:38:52 <mizmo> marina: you can be that person - step up and be that person - i  encourage everyone to encourage others to apply and help them
13:38:57 <mizmo> the best help they can get is local help
13:39:26 <mizmo> tradej, i have a suggestion for the question asker - can he approach local area fedora contributors to talk to these owmen who are also women? for eample, maybe tatica could have encouraged the woman who was not confident in her english
13:39:34 <mizmo> tatica is from latam as well
13:39:52 <mizmo> q: even if they are not accepted, they will gain knowledge of how to apply for the next time
13:40:04 <mizmo> marina: we have a really high % of participants who weren't accepted first time, but were accepted in a futrue round
13:40:06 <tradej> mizmo: k, will talk to him later
13:40:37 <mizmo> q: (mattdm) what can fedora do ogranization to support this program
13:40:41 <mizmo> thank you tradej  :) :)
13:40:58 <mizmo> marina: for opw, you can have as many interns as there are tasks and mentors... having  large participation in the program would be great
13:41:12 <mizmo> marina: other things fedora can do - a newcomers workshop would be good. simple for someone who doesn't already have fedora exposure
13:41:21 <mizmo> marina: for gnome, we have gnome newcomers workshop for ppl to try out gnome
13:41:35 <mizmo> marina: we have fedora/gnome virutal machiens set up that they can try out
13:41:45 <mizmo> marina: starting locally in your communities with more general workshops, but modelling using fedora
13:41:49 <mizmo> marina: these kind of skills and workshops
13:41:54 <mizmo> < the stream just died :( :( ( >
13:41:55 <mizmo> oh it's back
13:42:03 <mizmo> these kids of workshops, reaching out to women in tech workshops locally
13:42:11 <mizmo> do the workshop together or volunteer to participate - these are good things to do
13:42:17 <mizmo> ill think of other things to do
13:42:31 <mizmo> (mattdm) those are good inidvidual things for people to do. and also organization and structural things in fedora would be good too
13:42:50 <mizmo> marina: i thin it's about reaching out and inviting ppl. the opw program gives ppl the time to dive in and gain experience - a single workshop can't do that
13:43:05 <mizmo> (someobne else) workshop can be a taste test to get people to try to get involed more long term
13:43:14 <mizmo> any more questions?
13:43:14 <mizmo> okay
13:43:16 <mizmo> thank you for attending
13:43:18 <mizmo> <applause>
13:43:31 <tradej> #endmeeting