14:01:06 <tuanta> #startmeeting FAD APAC Singapore 2015
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14:01:29 <tuanta> #meetingname Fund support approval round 1
14:01:29 <zodbot> The meeting name has been set to 'fund_support_approval_round_1'
14:01:41 <tuanta> #topic Roll call
14:02:38 <harish> .fas harishpillay
14:02:39 <zodbot> harish: harishpillay 'Harish Pillay' <harish.pillay@gmail.com>
14:02:47 <tuanta> .fas tuanta
14:02:47 <zodbot> tuanta: tuanta 'Truong Anh Tuan' <tuanta@iwayvietnam.com>
14:02:52 <azneita> .fas azneita
14:02:52 <zodbot> azneita: azneita 'Heherson Pagcaliwagan' <herson@azneita.org> - ravedien 'Hilbert Pagcaliwagan' <hilbert@azneita.org> - dona 'dona marie grace' <dona@azneita.org>
14:02:53 <tuanta> #chair harish
14:02:53 <zodbot> Current chairs: harish tuanta
14:03:06 <tuanta> #chair azneita
14:03:06 <zodbot> Current chairs: azneita harish tuanta
14:03:17 <tuanta> #topic Roll call
14:03:44 <tuanta> harish, azneita should we wait a bit for snavin?
14:04:08 <harish> yes wait for him
14:04:25 <azneita> let me sms him too
14:04:34 <harish> he said in 5  min
14:04:34 <tuanta> thanks azneita
14:04:43 <azneita> ah ok, np
14:05:10 * harish on another voice call so i will observe this for now.
14:06:15 * harish on another voice call so i will observe this for now.
14:06:25 <tuanta> #chair hanthana
14:06:25 <zodbot> Current chairs: azneita hanthana harish tuanta
14:06:34 <tuanta> hi there. start now
14:06:54 <harish> yes
14:06:58 <tuanta> #topic Introduction
14:07:27 <tuanta> today is FAD APAC Singapore 2015 Fund support approval round 1
14:07:38 <tuanta> #link https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FAD_Singapore_2015
14:08:07 <tuanta> before reviewing each fund request, I would like to have some important notes:
14:08:45 <tuanta> #info FAD budget has not been approved officially yet until now
14:09:17 <tuanta> it is being reviewed by Council, the deadline for them to make decision is tomorrow
14:10:03 <tuanta> #info There are two rounds of fund support approval. One is today and the other is on Saturday
14:10:26 <tuanta> today is for highest priority reviewing
14:10:37 <tuanta> there are some common basic rules:
14:10:53 <tuanta> * Support only one person per APAC country.
14:10:54 <tuanta> * He/she should come from *active* country where there is (at least) one
14:10:55 <tuanta> Fedora activity/event was held last/current year. My idea is if there is
14:10:55 <tuanta> nothing at all in the whole year, even small ones like a release party,
14:10:55 <tuanta> we need a special strategy to improve that country (maybe we can invite
14:10:56 <tuanta> * He/she should be active in those activities/events in his/her country.
14:10:58 <tuanta> * Optional: he/she can *connect* two or more countries for wider events.
14:11:05 <tuanta> any question?
14:12:11 <azneita> i think those are clear enough
14:12:22 <hanthana> I have something to add
14:12:38 <tuanta> ok, lets go, hanthana
14:13:53 <hanthana> As you can see, accommodation budget is 1200$. I was assuming just one person from each country and I roughly counted APAC countries when I calculate.
14:13:53 <tuanta> go ahead, hanthana
14:14:28 <tuanta> how many people are you expecting?
14:14:31 <hanthana> its hard to help many people on accommodation as its not that cheap in Singapore
14:15:23 <hanthana> earlier i was assuming 6 people
14:15:38 <tuanta> notes that there are 3 nights: 4-5-6 (the FAD ends on Dec 6th, people have not enough time to go to the airport, I think)
14:15:41 <hanthana> 1200/3 (nights) 400$ per day
14:15:57 <tuanta> wow, it is expensive
14:16:11 <hanthana> for all of you
14:16:13 <azneita> we have 12 on the board now
14:17:02 <tuanta> I have sent you more options from booking.com, are those ok?
14:17:10 * tuanta is (re)looking for
14:17:15 <hanthana> that is why I was not happy with giving promises to those who register after the deadline
14:17:44 <hanthana> we can go for shared room
14:18:06 <hanthana> shall we start approving tickets
14:18:26 <harish> it has to be shared rooms
14:18:33 <hanthana> yes
14:18:46 <azneita> +1
14:18:47 <hanthana> bunker beds
14:18:52 <tuanta> #link http://www.booking.com/searchresults.en-gb.html?label=gen173nr-15CAEoggJCAlhYSDNiBW5vcmVmaPQBiAEBmAEuuAEEyAEE2AED6AEB&sid=c0b0c25436d6303bce45b548461f9cc1&dcid=4&checkin_monthday=4&checkin_year_month=2015-12&checkout_monthday=7&checkout_year_month=2015-12&class_interval=1&csflt={}&dest_id=-73635&dest_type=city&dtdisc=0&group_adults=2&group_children=0&hlrd=0&hyb_red=0&inac=0&label_click=undef&nha_red=0&no_rooms=1&redirected_from_city=0&redirected_f
14:18:53 <tuanta> rom_landmark=0&redirected_from_region=0&review_score_group=empty&room1=A%2CA&sb_price_type=total&score_min=0&si=ai%2Cco%2Cci%2Cre%2Cdi&ss=Singapore%2C%20Singapore&ss_all=0&ss_raw=sing&ssb=empty&sshis=0&order=price_for_two&nflt=review_score%3D80%3Breview_score%3D70%3Breview_score%3D90%3B
14:19:00 <hanthana> arr...
14:19:01 <tuanta> sorry, let me shorten it
14:19:36 <azneita> do you mean backpacker's hotel hanthana?
14:19:43 <tuanta> #link http://ur1.ca/o9hgc
14:20:15 <tuanta> the cheapest is just $42 per person for 3 nights
14:20:43 <harish> any of those would be good. they are all near some MRT station and Red Hat's office locaiton is above Tanjong Pagar MRT station.
14:20:52 <tuanta> just show the search results. I am not a local person so I a do not know much about Singapore
14:21:21 <tuanta> but I see a lot of good options
14:21:36 <hanthana> I can see 52 is cheapest
14:21:49 <harish> "The Hive Singapore Hotel" looks fine. near a train station.
14:21:58 <tuanta> if needed, we can change to cheaper hotel to give more opportunities for all people
14:22:07 <tuanta> as many people as we can
14:22:10 <tuanta> I meant
14:23:09 <hanthana> harish, its near Boon Keng MRT
14:23:13 <hanthana> not china town
14:23:33 <harish> does not matter.
14:23:44 <azneita> some even offers bfast
14:23:49 <harish> get into a train and the rest is easy
14:23:55 <hanthana> yes, it has wifi as well
14:24:06 <tuanta> note that cheap hotels are for backpackers; but I still think they are ok (just need to choose among them)
14:24:12 <harish> so perhaps we set it at $50 per person per day.
14:24:21 <tuanta> it is just a place for sleeping at night
14:24:25 <harish> for the backpacker type
14:24:40 <tuanta> we do not stay at day time
14:24:47 <hanthana> 6 dorm beds for S$ 374.40
14:25:06 <hanthana> per day
14:25:09 <tuanta> harish, the price you see from my link is for 3 nights
14:25:15 <tuanta> not for a night
14:25:19 <hanthana> I can book this right now if you guys OK!
14:25:33 <hanthana> FREE cancellation before 2 Dec 2015
14:25:33 <hanthana> PAY LATER
14:25:33 <harish> check on cancellation terms
14:25:37 <harish> ok
14:26:20 <tuanta> I think we can set a limit of $100 per person for 3 nights; there are a lot of good choices
14:26:31 <hanthana> Room facilities: View, Safety Deposit Box, Air Conditioning, Fan, Carpeted, Tile/Marble floor, Shower, Shared Bathroom, Shared Toilet
14:26:31 <hanthana> Free WiFi is available in all rooms.
14:26:31 <hanthana> Room size: 18 m²
14:26:32 <tuanta> and I believe we can choose a good one
14:27:00 <tuanta> just take a while to check one by one
14:27:03 <harish> go for it
14:27:04 <hanthana> tuanta, what do you mean by 'good one'
14:27:15 <tuanta> a good hotel, sorry
14:27:33 <hanthana> tuanta, we can arrange you Marina Bay Sands for you sir. ;-)
14:27:35 <tuanta> please consider reviews and rates be community
14:27:52 <tuanta> s/be/by
14:28:03 <tuanta> hanthana, what is it?
14:28:20 <hanthana> harish, we have to consider demand during the December. That's why I thought of booking it now
14:28:23 <hanthana> :)
14:29:16 * Orca-Krilozona has one question while i'm okay for any type of hotel.
14:29:32 <hanthana> what's up Orca-Krilozona ?
14:29:51 <tuanta> please consider: reviews, rates, location and it is better to have a look directly
14:29:54 <harish> yes we should. mind you the singapore marathon happens that weekend as well and they do have people flying in but probably those people would not be in the cheaper places
14:30:28 <Orca-Krilozona> Do you guys count if we are holding fedora-related event jointly with other community ? something like I'm presenting about Fedora in BarCamp, IT-Camp or Myanmar Cyber Conference like i mentioned in https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Orcakrilozona
14:30:43 <gnokii> ++
14:30:46 <tuanta> hanthana, harish: is that enough information for you to choose a hotel for us?
14:31:05 <gnokii> Orca-Krilozona: Barcamp Myanmar is biggest tech event in Asia wanted to speak with you anyway abut
14:31:06 <tuanta> just set a limit now and you can choose freely as you want
14:31:38 <harish> Orca-Krilozona, represent Fedora everywhere and do it well. that's all we can ask for.
14:31:47 <harish> tuanta, yep.
14:32:01 <Orca-Krilozona> thanks guys ;) acknowledged. :D
14:32:12 <tuanta> so I proposed the limit is $100 per person for 3 nights
14:32:31 <tuanta> we still have many options with that limit
14:32:38 <tuanta> is that ok?
14:33:13 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, that's good. You should list those events in Myanmar events list to discuss during FAD :)
14:33:16 <harish> yes OK
14:33:22 <tuanta> thanks
14:33:47 <Orca-Krilozona> acknowledged, tuanta :D
14:33:48 <tuanta> #agreed hotel budget limit is $100 per person for 3 nights
14:34:10 <tuanta> ok, then now, should we start reviewing each ticket?
14:34:24 * harish still on voice call
14:34:30 <azneita> please go ahead tuan
14:34:49 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #646
14:34:58 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/646
14:35:07 <tuanta> from gnokii
14:35:28 <tuanta> gnokii, you request to support for only one way ticket?
14:35:38 <gnokii> yes
14:36:00 <tuanta> any more questions, azneita harish hanthana ?
14:36:12 <harish> how much is the 1-way?
14:36:18 <azneita> who will book his flight?
14:36:18 <harish> approx?
14:36:31 <tuanta> $130 (from the wiki
14:36:38 <gnokii> harish: its app 150$ now, roundtrip is 250$
14:36:38 <tuanta> )
14:37:15 <hanthana> !
14:37:15 <gnokii> tuanta: if you not aware its just 2 weeks now to the date, and flights doesnt get cheaper
14:37:28 <harish> anyone else from Cambodia other than your gnokii?
14:37:41 <harish> s/your/you
14:37:45 <gnokii> harish: no
14:38:11 <harish> ok
14:38:36 <tuanta> just checked, it is $133 from PP to Singapore by Jetstar
14:38:41 <tuanta> that's fine, I think
14:38:53 <harish> ok
14:38:56 <tuanta> $159.00, sorry
14:39:04 <gnokii> yeah +airport fee ^^
14:39:15 <tuanta> voting?
14:39:21 <tuanta> +1 from me
14:39:25 <harish> +1
14:39:26 <Orca-Krilozona> +1
14:39:28 <hanthana> +1
14:39:29 <azneita> +1
14:40:31 <tuanta> #agreed Approved fund request from gnokii at around $160
14:40:46 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update the ticket
14:41:07 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #644
14:41:19 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/644
14:41:27 <tuanta> it's from me
14:41:54 <tuanta> it is about $300 from Hanoi to Singapore and return
14:42:20 <tuanta> I included flight details
14:42:41 <tuanta> any questions?
14:42:44 <harish> Hanoi or HCM?
14:42:49 <tuanta> harish, Hanoi
14:42:52 <harish> ok.
14:43:20 <harish> approved from me.
14:43:42 <hanthana> +1
14:43:48 <Orca-Krilozona> +၁
14:43:50 <Orca-Krilozona> +1
14:43:53 <gnokii> +1
14:43:54 <callkalpa> +1
14:43:55 <azneita> +1
14:44:29 <tuanta> #agreed Approved fund support for tuanta at around $300
14:44:43 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #645
14:44:51 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/645
14:45:06 <tuanta> from Zsun, from China
14:45:50 <tuanta> I guest that he departs from Beijing but I am not sure (I asked, but he has not answered yet)
14:46:16 <hanthana> he did not send his contacts for the invitation letter as well
14:46:48 <harish> hold until he replies.
14:46:54 <harish> go on to next then
14:47:12 <gnokii> ++
14:47:19 <tuanta> just double checked by SkyScanner.com the flight fare is less than $400 with AirAsia
14:47:27 <tuanta> ok, lets hold it
14:47:30 <hanthana> +1 for holding it
14:47:41 <azneita> +1 for hold
14:47:53 <tuanta> #info hold the ticket #645 until we got enough information
14:48:24 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update ticket #644 and #645
14:49:15 <tuanta> there are no more high priority tickets.
14:49:34 <tuanta> Lets check on the list and see if we should review any more ones
14:49:48 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, you have not opened your ticket yet?
14:50:02 <tuanta> why?
14:50:08 <Orca-Krilozona> it's #651
14:50:16 <hanthana> tuanta, you should check the wiki
14:50:30 <hanthana> we can keep vote for remaining
14:50:39 <tuanta> ah, I see, just updated
14:50:48 <Orca-Krilozona> yea :D
14:50:54 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #651
14:51:03 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/651
14:51:06 <tuanta> from Orca-Krilozona
14:52:37 <gnokii> Orca-Krilozona: did you check how long it takes to get visa?
14:52:53 <tuanta> Orca-Krilozona, I have just checked, it is $220 by Jetstar. Note that it could be different in booking time
14:53:02 <tuanta> so I am ok with the limit of $250
14:53:19 <tuanta> +1 gnokii
14:53:21 <Orca-Krilozona> my friends say for visa it takes about 4 days. so 1 week should be enough.
14:53:24 <hanthana> harish already sent an invitation letter to Orca-Krilozona
14:53:34 <harish> yep.
14:53:39 <gnokii> Orca-Krilozona: ok then it can work
14:53:40 <hanthana> Orca-Krilozona, is he working at embassy? :)
14:53:47 <gnokii> +1 then from me
14:53:52 <hanthana> +1
14:53:54 <tuanta> +1 from me
14:53:57 <Orca-Krilozona> yea, for invitation letter, i haven't received yet.
14:53:58 <callkalpa> +1 from me
14:53:58 <azneita> +1 here
14:54:17 <tuanta> #agreed Approved fund support for Orca-Krilozona at around $250
14:54:17 <hanthana> Orca-Krilozona, check your email box dude.
14:54:26 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update the ticket #651
14:54:34 <hanthana> Orca-Krilozona, its a PDF version and singed by harish
14:54:48 <gnokii> hanthana: harish can sing?
14:55:08 <azneita> :)
14:55:22 <hanthana> si*signedged
14:55:22 <Orca-Krilozona> hanthana, i got only mail from Danishka saying harish have sent it.
14:55:31 <hanthana> *signed
14:55:33 <hanthana> lol
14:55:44 <hanthana> give me your email ID
14:55:50 <hanthana> we can forward it just now
14:56:03 <harish> i sent it via my @redhat.com address
14:56:08 <Orca-Krilozona> pls send directly to yannaing@cyberwings.asia will be okay.
14:56:09 <Orca-Krilozona> :D
14:56:49 <hanthana> Orca-Krilozona, check now
14:57:15 <tuanta> next? how about ticket #650 by David Ramsey from Japan?
14:57:25 <tuanta> should we review it today?
14:57:38 <gnokii> tuanta: we should review all today
14:57:47 <Orca-Krilozona> just got it. hanthana and harish thanks guys.
14:57:48 <hanthana> +1 review today
14:57:55 <gnokii> its only 14 days until the event
14:58:01 <tuanta> ok, let go through all tickets
14:58:26 <tuanta> then 2nd round is for left/pending tickets
14:58:55 <tuanta> #info Kushal has not opened his ticket yet
14:59:22 <tuanta> #action hanthana to ask Kushal to open fund support ticket if he needs a support
14:59:49 <hanthana> I wrote to Kushan, Izhar
15:00:01 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #648 and #649
15:00:20 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/648
15:00:26 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/649
15:00:38 <tuanta> they are both from Phillipines
15:00:41 <azneita> those are for magie and engels
15:01:02 <azneita> engels indicated that he'll pay for his fare to join the fad
15:01:22 <harish> so only hotel for engel then.
15:01:27 <hanthana> he need only accommodation
15:01:28 <azneita> magie is the only one for travel support
15:01:36 <azneita> yes, harish
15:01:46 <hanthana> so, we can get engels in
15:01:55 <tuanta> should we approve both of them. $100 for hotel is not a bid deal for us
15:02:03 <tuanta> should we?
15:02:29 <hanthana> should we need two from each country?
15:02:58 <tuanta> I meant a rule is support one person per each country, but in this case, just Angie needs travel support
15:03:07 <gnokii> nope, one a country is enough it turns then only more into a bazar if there are to many then there is no productive outcome
15:03:23 <tuanta> ok, just an idea
15:03:36 <tuanta> I would like for us to discuss on that only
15:03:43 <gnokii> one, gets approved the other one on hold until we are clear with costs
15:04:00 <tuanta> +1 gnokii. that's fine
15:04:24 <tuanta> so should we firstly approve to support Engels?
15:04:38 <azneita> i'd say magie first
15:04:46 <gnokii> azneita: +1
15:04:48 <tuanta> thanks azneita
15:04:54 <harish> ok from me
15:05:25 <tuanta> azneita, know both of them much more any of us
15:05:43 <tuanta> +1 for Magie
15:05:50 <tuanta> more vote?
15:05:51 <gnokii> +1
15:06:02 <Orca-Krilozona> +1
15:06:07 <harish> +1
15:06:14 <azneita> +1 from me
15:06:14 <hanthana> +1
15:06:28 <callkalpa> +1
15:06:41 <tuanta> #agreed Approved fund support for Magie at around $200 for flight (ticket #648)
15:06:58 <tuanta> #info Set ticket #649 on hold
15:07:11 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update both tickets
15:07:26 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #650
15:07:35 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/650
15:07:46 <tuanta> from David Ramsey, from Japan
15:08:00 <hanthana> I have no idea which order tuanta use
15:08:18 <tuanta> #649 => #650, that's simple
15:08:29 <hanthana> why did you ignored 647?
15:08:59 <tuanta> ah, ok. but topic is started, let it discussed later
15:09:13 <hanthana> nvm
15:10:11 <tuanta> I did a quick search by SkyScanner, the cheapest air fare is around $500 (from Tokyo to Singapore and return)
15:11:14 <harish> i doubt that such a fare actually exists between NRT and SIN
15:11:14 <tuanta> David is the former APAC leader
15:11:51 <tuanta> it's true, let me shorten the link
15:12:46 <gnokii> its 330$ with china airlines
15:13:01 <gnokii> via TPE
15:13:38 <tuanta> #link http://goo.gl/HOFEk6
15:13:41 <harish> that'll not be a 6 hr flight I reckon
15:13:48 <harish> it will be atleast 8 or 9.
15:14:04 <tuanta> $500 is a direct flight by United
15:14:30 <tuanta> one stop flights are cheaper
15:14:44 <harish> and because I am viewing from Singapore, the cost is $699.
15:15:03 <tuanta> please see my pasted URL
15:15:06 <tuanta> http://goo.gl/HOFEk6
15:15:41 <hanthana> harish, 699SGD?
15:15:44 <azneita> sgd
15:15:58 <harish> US$492
15:16:02 <tuanta> I am talking about USD
15:16:09 <hanthana> azneita, can you PM me pls :)
15:16:12 <harish> yes, in USD
15:18:46 <gnokii> so point it he can fly for 500$
15:19:17 <hanthana> shall we vote?
15:19:34 <harish> yes but I think a direct flight is what that makes sense not one that has a hop. it is already a 6hr flight direct.
15:19:44 <harish> if he is OK with a one-stop flight, then fine.
15:19:57 <harish> I vote to ask David about that.
15:19:59 <azneita> will dramsey need any visa?
15:20:11 <hanthana> I dont think so
15:20:14 <harish> I don't think so.
15:20:16 <hanthana> azneita, ^
15:20:18 <gnokii> harish: leave that to him, I mean I always take the cheaper option and for me its then equal if I fly 42 or 36hrs
15:20:19 <harish> he will have to check.
15:20:59 <harish> that is not the issue really. to be productive, we need people to be rested and alert.
15:21:00 <hanthana> harish, what is the two prices?
15:21:13 <harish> i don't know.
15:21:17 <hanthana> ok
15:21:19 <tuanta> +1 harish for asking him
15:21:26 <harish> he has listed US$900 in the ticket
15:21:35 <tuanta> hold this ticket on then back in 2nd round
15:21:36 <gnokii> its around 150$ more I am fine to give him 500$ and ask him if he can to ue the cheaper option
15:21:44 <harish> that sounds about right to me for NRT<->SIN
15:21:46 <hanthana> he had mentioned in wiki "It should be less than $500, searched by SkyScanner "
15:22:20 <tuanta> hanthana, that's my note
15:22:34 <hanthana> tuanta, oh
15:23:14 <gnokii> lets vote there is another one to go
15:23:30 <gnokii> and we should decide also Kushal and Engels on the end
15:23:51 <hanthana> and  Zamir
15:24:33 <tuanta> we have two rounds for review all tickets
15:25:09 <tuanta> and the fact is FAD budget has not been approved by Council yet (deadline is tomorrow)
15:25:20 <harish> OK. Kushal $500, Zamir $500 and Engels (only accomodation). Would that be about right?
15:25:24 <tuanta> so we should go back on Saturday
15:25:49 <hanthana> lets take #647 before we stop
15:25:58 <harish> yes
15:26:24 <azneita> callkalpa - 647
15:26:28 <tuanta> #info Hold ticket #650 on to the next meeting
15:26:30 <gnokii> ++
15:26:49 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #647
15:26:49 <gnokii> do I hear again next meeting?
15:27:04 <hanthana> I already put a message to David
15:27:08 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/647
15:27:28 <harish> OK from me.
15:27:29 <tuanta> from callkalpa
15:27:38 <gnokii> +1
15:27:53 <azneita> +1 from me
15:28:07 <Orca-Krilozona> +1
15:28:18 <hanthana> +1
15:28:22 <tuanta> I can not remember where he is from
15:28:29 <hanthana> Sri Lanka
15:28:33 <azneita> lk
15:29:34 <hanthana> tuanta, is that why you forgot his ticket :P
15:29:38 <kagesenshi> hi
15:29:52 <gnokii> hi izhar
15:29:56 <hanthana> kagesenshi, dude need your ticket
15:30:00 <kagesenshi> wait2
15:30:08 <tuanta> it seems he is not very active for months ( not sure)
15:30:09 * hanthana I catch him in Facebook lol :D
15:31:02 <tuanta> but there is no more person from Sri Lanka
15:31:45 <tuanta> hi kagesenshi, have you opened your travel support ticket?
15:32:08 <hanthana> tuanta, lets finish this ticket
15:32:41 <tuanta> yes, I am telling my idea, but there is no response from any of you
15:33:16 <hanthana> I am looking at you.
15:33:17 <gnokii> what idea?
15:33:18 <tuanta> so if I need to cast a vote for this ticket now, I prefer to hold it on to the next round
15:33:27 <gnokii> I have only seen an opinionn
15:33:31 <hanthana> tuanta, why?
15:33:41 <hanthana> kagesenshi, you can vote
15:33:46 <tuanta> s/idea/opinion
15:33:47 <tuanta> thanks gnokii
15:34:12 <kagesenshi> erm.. cant find the component in the fudcon-planning trac related to the event .. whats the ID?
15:34:15 <gnokii> to be honest there was not seen activity from the Phillipines either
15:34:21 <hanthana> why did not you wait for 648 then?
15:34:58 <hanthana> tuanta, I already knew that you don't like this ticket as you just by pass this ticket and started voting for Phillipines
15:34:59 <harish> don't side track please. keep the focus.
15:35:57 <hanthana> tuanta, this is a community and you can't force people dude.
15:36:14 <tuanta> please do not do any personal attack. Just discussing based on preset rules
15:36:37 <tuanta> I do not do like or dislike anyone
15:36:39 <hanthana> yeah, same rules should be applicable for Phillipines
15:37:01 <hanthana> tuanta, next year, you can visit Sri Lanka and do your job!
15:37:15 <harish> hanthana, please keep on topic
15:38:36 <gnokii> there is already 4 ++ so just one needed more harish hasnt voted, kagesenshi and tuanta
15:39:00 <harish> + from me
15:39:31 <gnokii> thats 5 then
15:39:33 <hanthana> tuanta, shame on you!
15:39:44 <tuanta> if there is no more comment, I propose hold this ticket on to the next round
15:39:52 <azneita> no need for that guys
15:40:02 <hanthana> tuanta, why? why?
15:40:15 <tuanta> hanthana, please discuss, do not do personal attack, please :(
15:40:30 <hanthana> tuanta, to discuss what?
15:40:42 <kagesenshi> he is the only one from srilanka?
15:40:43 <tuanta> why? based on preset rule, hanthana
15:40:57 <hanthana> why that rule not applicable to others?
15:41:13 <gnokii> tuanta: there are 5 ++ so dont ignore them
15:41:16 <tuanta> kagesenshi, yes
15:42:08 <hanthana> tuanta, ok fine. you do with your rules. like you try to kick out gnokii this morning.
15:42:20 <hanthana> i am sorry to mentioned it in public
15:42:33 <hanthana> I am really tired with your politics dude
15:42:38 <gnokii> hu?
15:42:41 <kagesenshi> allright +1 .. though will need him to also show budget for sri lanka 2016 .. instead of just "Networking and actively involving in APAC regional tasks. "
15:42:44 <kagesenshi> :)
15:42:52 <azneita> hi guys, let's decide on #647 please
15:43:43 <gnokii> ++
15:44:16 <harish> ok from me.
15:45:06 <tuanta> #agreed Approved fund support for callkalpa with some notes (from tuanta and kagesenshi)
15:45:26 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update the ticket #647
15:45:57 <tuanta> any more tickets?
15:46:00 <tuanta> for kagesenshi ?
15:46:12 <hanthana> lets wait for kagesenshi
15:46:23 <tuanta> kagesenshi, do you need any support to travel to FAD?
15:46:27 <kagesenshi> #652 ?
15:46:33 <callkalpa> I've been observing the discussion and to simply put it, FYI #647 comes after #646, the same manner that "#649 => #650, that's simple", I hope you understand :-) Thanks
15:47:10 <kagesenshi> support ticket #652 is nice to have .. if no budget them i can cover myself .. as long as i can crash on a sofa somewhere :3
15:47:30 <tuanta> #topic Ticket #652
15:47:38 <tuanta> #link https://fedorahosted.org/fudcon-planning/ticket/652
15:47:40 <tuanta> from kagesenshi
15:47:47 <azneita> +1 from me
15:47:57 <callkalpa> +1
15:48:02 <hanthana> +1
15:48:07 <Orca-Krilozona> +1 for kagesenshi
15:48:09 <harish> +1 from me.
15:48:11 <gnokii> +1
15:48:24 <tuanta> just a question, kagesenshi: how much does it cost from Kuala Lumpur to Singapore?
15:48:28 <tuanta> $200?
15:48:34 <kagesenshi> less than $200
15:48:45 <kagesenshi> wait .. *check currency rate*
15:48:53 <azneita> taking the bus or plane?
15:49:11 <kagesenshi> lol .. $50 USD by bus
15:49:12 <harish> you could drive if you want to
15:49:26 <azneita> that too :)
15:49:37 <kagesenshi> i dont think i want to drive, entering singapore would leave me with lots of speeding ticket
15:49:37 <kagesenshi> xD
15:49:38 <hanthana> harish, should I wait till Saturday to book or do it now?
15:49:47 <tuanta> kagesenshi, :)
15:49:59 <harish> book what?
15:50:00 <tuanta> hanthana, we must wait
15:50:03 <gnokii> :)
15:50:08 <azneita> the hotel, i guess
15:50:20 <tuanta> hotel is ok
15:50:24 <hanthana> I think I need to check with all the people in case if they prefer to stay their own
15:50:30 <tuanta> I thought you are talking about flights
15:50:32 <harish> enquiry and check. keep a conversation going until saturday before confirming.
15:50:39 <hanthana> tuanta, we go for shared rooms
15:50:57 <tuanta> but note that FAD budget has not been approved yet
15:51:11 <tuanta> so we should not spend any bucks before
15:51:31 <tuanta> it could be canceled (in the wrose case)
15:51:46 <tuanta> s/worse
15:53:20 <hanthana> I can take a risk and book for these people who already approved by double checking with them
15:53:40 <hanthana> but its clear that we do NOT provide hotel rooms
15:54:20 <tuanta> back to kagesenshi's ticket
15:54:32 <gnokii> its already decided
15:54:47 <tuanta> #agreed Approved fund support for kagesenshi
15:55:01 <tuanta> #action tuanta to update the ticket #652
15:55:12 <tuanta> #topic Open floor
15:55:26 <gnokii> just a minute before open floor
15:55:58 <hanthana> I need to add something before Open Floor
15:56:51 <gnokii> there are 3 persons left and there should not be another meeting to decide something thats nonsense
15:57:04 <gnokii> there is kushal, zsun and engels left
15:57:15 <kagesenshi> thanks ^^
15:57:18 <tuanta> that meeting is for event owners only
15:57:30 <tuanta> you can be absent
15:57:59 <tuanta> it is easier for us to make decision in IRC meeting instead of send emails back and forth
15:59:13 <gnokii> ^^
15:59:48 <hanthana> Orca-Krilozona, can you update us once you got your VISA?
15:59:57 <tuanta> anything else?
16:00:04 <gnokii> yes see above
16:00:06 <Orca-Krilozona> sure hanthana , I'll confirm when I get VISA.
16:00:27 <tuanta> I answered your question, gnokii
16:00:35 <gnokii> that was not a question
16:01:12 <tuanta> anything else? should we end this meeting now?
16:01:39 <harish> i've nothing to add. we can close now. been here for 2hrs.
16:01:53 <tuanta> thanks everyone for coming
16:02:02 <tuanta> #endmeeting