16:03:47 <mizmo> #startmeeting
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16:03:56 <mizmo> any topics to discuss before we ticket dive?
16:04:38 <riecatnor> I don’t have anything
16:04:53 <mizmo> okay let's ticket dive then
16:04:55 <gnokii> he
16:05:05 <mizmo> gnokii, hey did you have anything to discuss?
16:05:06 <riecatnor> hi gnokii!
16:05:14 <gnokii> no
16:05:38 <mizmo> #topic Stalled tickets
16:05:58 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362  Logo for Pagure
16:06:03 <mizmo> this one is closed and fixed
16:06:18 <mizmo> i have to clear the waiting on field i think
16:06:28 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/362
16:06:37 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/360  Fedora LiveUSB Creator artwork
16:07:30 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/360
16:07:35 <mizmo> just added a comment to that one
16:07:53 <mizmo> #topic aging tickets (older than 2 weeks)
16:08:02 <mizmo> oh a lot here
16:08:08 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401
16:08:12 <mizmo> Review: Updated cheat cube to use DNF instead of yum
16:08:22 <mizmo> this one needs someone to review / sanity-check it
16:08:28 <mizmo> does anybody have time to do that?
16:09:00 <mizmo> #action need someone to review  https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401  (cheat cube update)
16:09:14 <mizmo> ill keep it moving since it's been a while and we have a big backlog
16:09:22 <mizmo> if anything captures your interest feel free to holler at any point
16:09:26 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/403
16:09:29 <mizmo> Icons for new FAS website
16:09:44 <riecatnor> mizmo: I will be working on this one
16:09:51 <mizmo> riecatnor, 401 or 403?
16:09:54 <riecatnor> 403
16:09:58 <mizmo> oh okay great!
16:09:59 <mizmo> \o/
16:10:04 <riecatnor> I made this ticket with laxathom
16:10:11 * mizmo assigns to you
16:10:39 <mizmo> oh maybe it already was?
16:10:42 <riecatnor> :)
16:10:50 <mizmo> oh it was lol
16:11:04 <mizmo> wrong category, thought we were in need triage
16:11:06 <mizmo> okay
16:11:20 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/403
16:11:22 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/400
16:11:26 <mizmo> Request for Welcome Picture of F22 Release Party
16:11:35 <mizmo> deadline is aug 20
16:12:00 <mizmo> adding comment "The deadline on this has passed - we triaged this ticket today in our team meeting. Do you still need a design or should we close out the ticket?"
16:12:04 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/400
16:12:17 <mizmo> same for https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/399
16:12:20 <mizmo> Request for poster of Fedora 22 Release Party
16:12:24 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/399
16:12:38 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/394
16:12:43 <mizmo> Missing f22-backgrounds-extras package
16:13:01 <mizmo> gnokii, do you know about this ticket?
16:14:12 <gnokii> besser82: said he is packing it
16:14:24 <mizmo> ah okay
16:14:30 <mizmo> its been 6 weeks
16:14:32 <mizmo> should we ping him?
16:14:48 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/394
16:15:01 <mizmo> i just asked in the ticket
16:15:04 <gnokii> yeah i pinged him already 3 times
16:15:08 <mizmo> no responses?
16:15:30 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/374
16:15:35 <mizmo> UX feedback on fedmenu
16:15:37 <gnokii> he said he is doing it
16:15:40 <mizmo> we were going to talk about this at flock
16:15:55 <mizmo> but i think threebean had something else going on during the design clinic
16:16:12 <mizmo> i dont think theres any urgency on this one though, i think hubs isnt as far along as id hoped so maybe we just wait
16:16:50 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/374
16:16:58 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/373
16:17:01 <mizmo> Production of swag for F22
16:17:28 <mizmo> we need feedback from sesivany on this one, im hoping we can just close it
16:18:23 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/373
16:18:43 <sesivany> mizmo: yes, close it, originally it was done for budget purposes and I put it in a wrong trac.
16:18:49 <mizmo> sesivany, oh okay great thanks
16:19:14 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy closed a ticket on the Design Team trac instance as 'fixed' https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/373
16:19:22 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367
16:19:25 <mizmo> Need logo design for the Fedora Security Team(FST)
16:20:19 <mizmo> this one is blocking on reporter, adding block
16:20:49 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/367
16:21:15 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366
16:21:18 <mizmo> :)
16:21:32 <mizmo> still overloaded, still on radar
16:21:35 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/366
16:21:51 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364
16:21:56 <mizmo> Update Design Team Wiki
16:22:05 <mizmo> looks like kirkb finished this, and it needs our review
16:22:14 <mizmo> #action need someone to review https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/364 Update Design Team Wiki
16:22:26 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/350
16:22:30 <mizmo> Anaconda banner template
16:22:58 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/350
16:23:02 * mizmo pings jurankdankkal on this one
16:24:07 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347
16:24:11 <mizmo> Fedora Cloud, Server, and Worksation Stack Exchange community promotion ads
16:24:47 <mizmo> i vaguely remember my intern making these like, last year
16:24:50 * mizmo very confused
16:25:00 <mizmo> oh in may okay not a year ago
16:25:04 <mizmo> feels like a year ago tho
16:26:00 <mizmo> this one needs design review
16:26:07 <mizmo> i see some big issues
16:26:22 <mizmo> #action https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347 stack exchange ads (needs design review)
16:26:31 <mizmo> (i'm using action as a to-do list of open items)
16:26:46 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/279  Design for "This week in Fedora"
16:26:50 <mizmo> so we definitely hit on this one at flock
16:27:10 <mizmo> i have a rough mockup based on our discussion from flock i can upload
16:27:18 <mizmo> #action mizmo to upload mockup from this week in fedora discussion at flock
16:27:44 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210
16:27:47 <mizmo> Update fedoracommunity maps with Russia in EMEA (not APAC)
16:28:25 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210
16:28:38 <mizmo> #action https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/210  Update fedoracommunity maps with Russia in EMEA (not APAC)  (needs tweaking)
16:28:46 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199
16:28:49 <mizmo> Interface and Usability refresh for ask.fedoraproject.org
16:28:55 <mizmo> i know the GSOC internship is over for this
16:29:48 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/199
16:29:52 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- ralph updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/374
16:29:54 <mizmo> blocked it on reporter for an update
16:30:12 <mizmo> okay that's all aging tickets
16:30:20 <mizmo> #topic tickets needing a response
16:30:30 <mizmo> nothing we didn't just cover in there
16:30:44 <mizmo> #topic untriaged tickets
16:31:04 <mizmo> a bunch of tickets now need triaged keyword, going to do that real quick
16:31:15 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401
16:31:19 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/403
16:31:28 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/402
16:31:35 <mizmo> Need to scale down hackergotchi in planet rss feed css
16:31:48 <mizmo> #action open ticket - Need to scale down hackergotchi in planet rss feed css (adjusting hackergotchi size in planet rss feed css)
16:32:08 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/400
16:32:17 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/399
16:32:32 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/398
16:32:36 <mizmo> Logo design request for new project: AsciiBinder
16:32:45 <mizmo> mleonova, ^^ have you gotten feedback from the reporter on your latest mockups for this one?
16:32:55 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/398
16:33:02 <mleonova> mizmo, yep, working on it
16:33:20 <mizmo> k
16:33:25 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/394
16:33:45 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/398
16:34:08 <mizmo> okay just added a bunch of triaged keywords :)
16:34:35 <mizmo> so thats it :)
16:34:46 <mizmo> so we could start some of the backlog now as a group
16:34:55 <mizmo> reviewing cheat cube might be quick and easy
16:34:56 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401
16:35:03 <mizmo> here is the file: https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/401/Fedora_Cheat_Cube_Users_Aug2015-DNF.svg
16:35:43 <mizmo> i think for the sections, the headers should probably be updated to be montserrat - these use modata which is ancient
16:36:39 <mizmo> any other feedback on it?
16:38:17 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401
16:38:39 <mizmo> next we could look at
16:38:39 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347
16:38:44 <mizmo> Fedora Cloud, Server, and Worksation Stack Exchange community promotion ads
16:38:54 <mleonova> I'm trying to take a look at #401, won't open
16:39:06 <mizmo> mleonova, weird what error are you getting?
16:39:22 <mleonova> mizmo, not sure, maybe just slow
16:40:27 <sam08> mleonova, i had to download the svg, my browser couldn't open it
16:40:44 <mleonova> sam08,  yeah, it finally opened
16:41:23 <mizmo> \o/
16:41:48 <mleonova> mizmo, the distribution of text and headers looks uneven
16:42:11 <mizmo> it looks like right align was attempted but its definitely very off
16:42:32 <sam08> mizmo, about the cheat cube, maybe i'm wrong, but do the guidelines allow to rearrange the fedora foundations like it happens here?
16:42:40 <mizmo> mleonova, if you dont have mgopen modata installed it might look really weird
16:42:54 <mleonova> mizmo, i do and it still looks off
16:43:22 <mleonova> I mean the distanve from header to text is differetnt every time almost
16:43:26 <mleonova> *distance
16:43:35 <mizmo> mleonova, ohhhh *those* headers, yes, they are VERY off
16:43:42 <mizmo> sorry i was looking at the ones on the bottom (network, permissions, etc)
16:44:21 <mleonova> mizmo, yes. and the font, you're right, should be changed
16:44:57 <mizmo> sam08, sorry so slow to reply, trying to look it up, i think it might beokay
16:45:09 <mleonova> basically I wish all the text got aligned =)
16:45:58 <mizmo> sam08, okay so we don't explicitly allow it, but i don't think theres any big problem with it except they need to be aligned. :) the green one is higher than the orange one
16:47:12 <mizmo> okay i added all this feedback to the ticket
16:47:12 <sam08> mizmo, but for sure we should leave some space around the f-logo :)
16:47:34 <mizmo> sam08, yeh maybe a little more space
16:47:48 <sam08> and, i'd keep the headers aligned to the left like everything else
16:48:16 <mizmo> sam08, the blue background ones? or the in-text ones up top?
16:49:14 <sam08> uhm, the blue background ones
16:49:28 <mizmo> kk updated with that
16:49:31 <mizmo> cool
16:49:40 <mizmo> any other feedback on the cheat cube?
16:49:43 <sam08> actually, i couldn't notice there where other headers, lol
16:50:04 <mizmo> sam08, they're tiny - the ones mleonova was talking about - network config, network manager, firewall config (they're kind of hidden in the text)
16:50:21 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401
16:50:35 <fedmsg-design> trac.ticket.update -- duffy updated a ticket on the Design Team trac instance https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/401
16:50:39 <mizmo> okay
16:50:52 <mizmo> so now let's take a look at the stack exchange ads :)
16:50:52 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/ticket/347
16:50:59 <mizmo> the latest are here -
16:51:00 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/347/fedora-workstation-v5a-infinity.png
16:51:02 <sam08> just one,  have one in my hand and colors look really dark has it been exported from scribus with right print colors?
16:51:20 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/347/fedora-server-v5a-infinity.png
16:51:26 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/347/fedora-cloud-v5a-infinity.png
16:51:56 <mizmo> sam08, this one hasn't ever been cmyk / scribus-ified - the intention was for ambassadors to print them out on ink jets at home so it's hard to ensure any color uniformity either way
16:52:01 <mleonova> mizmo, is the font somewhat compressed or is it me?
16:52:15 <mizmo> mleonova, it is, it's vertically compressed for sure
16:52:15 <mizmo> also
16:52:17 <mizmo> https://fedorahosted.org/design-team/attachment/ticket/347/fedora-workstation-v5a-infinity.png
16:52:20 <mizmo> my eyes! my eyes!
16:52:23 <mizmo> hehe too bright
16:52:30 <mizmo> also
16:52:33 <mizmo> the fedora logo is kind of in the corner
16:52:41 <mizmo> these are ads for placement within a non-fedora community
16:52:48 <mizmo> maybe the person doesn't know this has anything to do with fedora
16:52:52 <mizmo> if we use the logo it should probably say fedora
16:53:04 <mizmo> so we probably should use the version of the edition logos that includes the 'fedora' logo in it
16:53:26 <mleonova> mizmo, oh noooes
16:53:27 <mizmo> maybe better to use that version, which includes the color in smaller doses
16:53:35 <mizmo> and maybe the light gray triangle texture in the back?
16:55:45 * mizmo opens the sources to play with it
16:58:46 <finalzone-laptop> I can see gamut issue when it comes to print according to inkscape
16:58:56 <mizmo> finalzone-laptop, these are for web usage so no print issues
16:59:08 <mizmo> but yeh that green is neon and would never ever print :)
17:00:26 <finalzone-laptop> ah ok. so sightly tone it down ?
17:01:14 <mizmo> im thinking about a total redo
17:06:05 <mizmo> sec
17:06:27 <mizmo> http://i.imgur.com/7kt0Qgp.png
17:06:49 <mizmo> er
17:06:52 <mizmo> fixed
17:06:59 <mizmo> http://i.imgur.com/w1yLlga.png
17:07:01 <mizmo> something more like that
17:07:11 <mizmo> needs a lot more work but
17:07:20 <mizmo> less eye burnination
17:07:50 <sam08> cool!
17:07:58 <finalzone-laptop> how about the version without the bottom picture for comparison?
17:09:51 <finalzone-laptop> that banner kept the integrity with the website. Less confusion as well.
17:13:08 <mizmo> sec
17:13:32 <mizmo> finalzone-laptop, http://i.imgur.com/dTQSMaq.png
17:16:04 <finalzone-laptop> I prefer the last version considering the banner size.
17:16:22 <finalzone-laptop> It focuses on the content
17:18:32 <mizmo> sec
17:19:54 <mizmo> i wish inkscape had an export to imgur option :)
17:19:59 <mizmo> finalzone-laptop, http://i.imgur.com/ao1UZH0.png
17:21:13 <finalzone-laptop> that will be a good request now that inkscape supports extentions
17:22:03 <mizmo> okay
17:22:11 <mizmo> do these seem a reasonable suggestion to add to the ticket?
17:22:41 <finalzone-laptop> yes they are.
17:22:55 <mizmo> cool thanks finalzone-laptop
17:23:00 <mizmo> ill add to ticket then see what reporter thinks
17:23:00 <mizmo> okay
17:23:05 <mizmo> i'm gonna close meeting, we've gone over :)
17:23:13 <mizmo> but we got through every ticket that needed attention so w00t! :)
17:23:18 <mizmo> thanks everybody for coming!
17:23:20 <finalzone-laptop> alrighty!
17:23:20 <mizmo> #endmeeting